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MOnkeyBabe:
me, I'm bothered about them. That's why I sent it to you . I need my stuff on fp.
I'm hunGRy much for Attention on Romance

what's wrong with the stuff you sent him and why cant you post it here?

I'm not a fan of Toyota, but for this Design, I wouldn't mind getting it

Igboid:
r=lexyking




The point was that voters turn up in SW 2011 presidential election was poor, because the people really didn't identify with GEJ.
The voters apathy was obvious.
And my point is that SW contributed very minimal to GEJ emergence as the president contrary to the claim that you were major contributors.
The voters turnout in SW was disgraceful.

I know that Yorubas usually split their votes when a Yoruba man is not a major presidential candidate.
But that's not my point. My aim was to dispel the falsehood that GEJ emergence in 2011 had Yorubas as "major" contributors. It's important I dispel that falsehood because I have come across posts in the past where some Yoruba persons claim they "made" GEJ president only for him to turn around and marginalize them.
Sure, Yorubas contributed to GEJ rise, but they were not major stakeholders or contributors to his emergence in 2011, at least not more than Ndiigbo.








I hope you realize that as at 2011 most of the Yoruba state were controlled by ACN? so yes GEJ was never a Yoruba candidate so to speak but the Yorubas nonetheless contributed in no small measure to his victory at the polls. One thing you should know is that the north only allowed and supported GEJ because the entire south including the Yorubas showed a United front in their support of his candidacy, the north knew that they stood no chance against a United south so they reluctantly went along with GEJ. so to now belittle the Yorubas which were one of the southern tripods on which he got elected and calling there votes " minimal" is respectful. little wonder he lost the subsequent election when the Yorubas chose to go with the north, so I ask you again would GEJ had won his first tenure if the Yorubas had partnered with the north against him?






I'm yet to understand the whole idea of Zik betraying SW. After the fall out of NYM elections where Zik supported Ijebu Yoruba candidate was defeated by alliance of other Yorubas and Ikoli.
Zik left NYM and formed NCNC with Herbert Macaulay in 1944, by uniting his faction of NYM(made up Igbos and Ijebu Yorubas) and NDDP of Macaulay.
Macaulay as an elder statesman became the New party president with Zik as the secretary.









You need to go back and do further research into the founding fathers of NCNC cos like I said earlier ZIK was the only non Yoruba founding members of the party. so I dont know where you got you idea of zik leading "faction of Igbos and Ijebu Yorubas from"



NCNC was accepted as a national party by all, as far as Macaulay a Yoruba man was the leader.
But immediately Macaulay died and Zik succeeded him naturally as the party leader. Awolowo and other Yoruba nationalists were no longer happy with NCNC, they formed a tribal party AG, and then they all slowly diffused to AG, leaving Zik and NCNC with mainly Easterners and Midwesterns and few Ijebu Yoruba foundational members.











Like I said earlier you need to re access your source of historical records. because as soon as macaulay died, Zik started scheming with the Igbos to hijack the party structures and identity so as to make it to be Igbo centric. This actions of Zik and his kinsmen led to the exits of major party stakeholders some of which where not even Yoruba. Even professor Eyo Ita who was from calabar which was then part of the Igbo dominated eastern region and was the party's deputy national president had to quit the party and formed his own party called the National Independence Party. he did this to protest the Igbo centric nature the NCNC had become. so it was not only Yorubas that abandoned the party for Zik.




Zik was actually betrayed in NCNC by the Yorubas who accused him of running an Igbo agenda for aspiring to become the premier of the western region.

Of course it was a propaganda. I am only here to burst your propaganda.
Zik wanted to be the premier of the western region, the same way Nigerians in UK are contesting for elective positions there and winning.
He lived in Lagos and his Party as of that time was the leading party of Southern Nigeria. Why shouldn't he contest for the premier of western region .









Did you even bother to try wearing the shoes that you're asking the Yorubas to wear? the Igbos that could not even allow non Igbo minorities to hold sensitive positions in the then eastern region now wants to be allowed such in the west? what's was his obsession with the west as at then that he couldn't go back to his people in the east to offer to provide the desired leadership that was clearly not missing in the west



The father of tribalism in Nigeria politics was Awolowo. AG was s tribal Yoruba party, an extension of Egbe Omo Yoruba. Awo rode on tribalism to gather Yoruba politicians to AG.
He was the father of tribalism in Nigeria.

Here we go again. So Awolowo being a Yoruba man and seeking for an elective position in a Yoruba land against an Igbo man did wrong by reminding his people that their interests can only be protected by their fellow Yoruba man?

Igboid:
I'd still like to see how Zik betrayed Yorubas. If anything, Awolowo used his tribal politics to make Yorubas stop Zik from becoming the premier of the region.

As for 2011 elections, Yorubas contributions to GEJ win is so minimal that GEJ lost in Osun and like I mentioned before, election turn up for presidential election was so poor in SW.

If we remove Lagos which is a multiethnic cosmopolitan state, SW on the whole gave 1,434,729 votes to GEJ. If we add Lagos to Yoruba just to be generous,even though we know it's a multiethnic state it will be 2,716,417 votes.

In contrast, SE gave 4,985,246 votes for GEJ, times two of SW votes with Lagos and times 3 without Lagos. But the person I quoted is already claiming GEJ won with SW votes, when the numbers say otherwise.

https://www.oecd.org/countries/nigeria/presidentialelectioninnigeria-16april2011.htm

Yorubas must come to the realization that the days of Lagos-Ibadan media propaganda machine monopoly when you guys spinned falsehoods unchallenged are gone. The Internet is a great equalizer. This Igbo generation will not let you get away with distortions like our forerunners did, we are angry and eager to correct our fathers mistakes as far as allowing you the space to manipulate narratives is concerned.

Ok, going with the election results you posted. its clear that GEJ got over 50% of the votes casted in the southwest with the exception of Osun state. So how how can you call a percentage of over 50% minimal?

It's a well known fact that the Yorubas dont give total support to any candidate or party in any given election since 1999. even Buhari with a Yoruba vice couldn't get more than 70% of Yoruba votes in the last election. PDP HAD MORE VOTES FROM THE SOUTHWEST THAN SOUTHEAST IN THE LAST ELECTION this was despite the fact that they had no stake in PDP. So it was not out of spite or hatred for GEJ that made him not to get close to 100% of the Yoruba votes, it's just in our nature to be liberal and to understand that there is no such thing as 100% right or wrong hence our propensity to stay in the middle.

As for Zik betrayer of the Yorubas, you would need to have an Understanding of the history of NCNC,that is, the founding members, the mission and vision of the party,to truly understand how Zik hijacked the party and made it Igbo centric.

You contradicted yourself again my friend by accusing the Lagos-Ibadan press of engaging in propaganda while you're busy with a propaganda of your own. why don't you ask yourself why Azikiwe wanted to become the premier of the west, and while at it you might also want to justify your reasons for saying Awolowo engaged in tribal politics.

Because factually speaking, Zik started tribal politics in Nigeria. first by turning a pan African political party which was founded and funded by the Yorubas at the initial stage to a Igbo centric party. now before you start with the rhetorics of NCNC being a Igbo party, it will intrest you to know that Zik was the only non Yoruba person among the founding members of the party. so if you don't know this fact then I'm not sure I need to go further in trying to explain how Zik screwed us over. But if you know this fact, indicate it and we can further convers on the issue

Igboid:
Which party funded by Yorubas did Zik contest under?
And how did Zik betray Yorubas? Is Zik now Akintola? Where do they teach you lots all these nonsense?

Obasanjo became president in 1999 without Yoruba support.

Shagari won no elections in the East. How could he have when Zik contested for the same election too?

Abiola got 45% of the votes casted in SE, in an election an Igbo was a VP to a major contender in Tofa. Infact, Abiola won Anambra state.

Yaradua was supported by everyone. How dare you take the credit for that, are you okay?

GEJ got abysmal votes from SW in 2011. Most of you didn't turn out to vote that day. Your contribution to his rise to presidency in 2011 were at best minimal.

Buhari is a failure as a president . We are happy to associate him Yorubas. Twice Buhari tried to lure our support by making us VP, in 2003( Okadigbo) and 2007( Ogbonnaya Onu). Twice we rejected him.
He came to us before he came to you, but we don't associate with failure, so we rejected him twice. Don't forget that.
Justice twice he used you as VP, 2011(Bakare) and 2015(Osibanjo), your tribalism packaged as sophisticated politics got the better of you, now the entire country is dead.

Babangida was Jakande right hand man. Remember it was Jakande who ratted Awolowo to Babangida.
To say Igbos supported him is nonsense.
He was married to our Asaba sister, that's all.


Abacha had Yoruba NADECO members in his pocket. Bribed many of them and they betrayed and gave Abiola up like a sheep to slaughter.

Shehu Shagari never won an election in Igbo land. Don't know the Igbo support you speak of.
NPP formed the central government with NPN, that's all.

First you accused someone of twisting facts, then you went straight ahead and did same. normally, I prefer to just follow this kind of topic without commenting. but you my friend, made some hilarious remarks and I couldn't just laugh it off without at least trying to help you make sense of it.

As for your questioning of how Zik betrayed the Yorubas, it's kinda going to be hard explaining that to you. not because I dont have the facts to buttress my point, it's just that I don't see any sense in discussing what what happened in the 60s/70s with someone who is already twisting the events that happened as recent as 2011.

How can you say that Yorubas contributions to the emergence of GEJ was minimal at best, if you do the analysis of the votes that he got from every region, you'd see how clearly the total number of votes that he got from the southwest was more than that of the south east. so how can you now in good conscience try to distort this fact?

My first time was with our house maid who was much older than me.

lefulefu:
i dont have babe..i only have besties and friends of benefit and when u have bestie u not really bothered if she has another man in her life

Good for you

lefulefu:
i dont see anything wrong in snail eating but na ur main babe kpomo dat u trust dat u fit chop oo .no jus go dey deep ur tongue into any hole u see.

what if your babe is somebody's else side chic?

PierreAbutu:
Pls stay logged to www.litireso.com

I will publish it tnere b4 d end of this month.....and would be very affordable

My guy, look all you need to do is learn to enjoy and appreciate women. You don't need to understand them. Just accepts the goods and the bad things they have to offer and move on with your life, its just an adventure.

We aren't supposed to know everything about anything in order to enjoy them.

But goodluck with your publishing endeavor I'm sure they are lots of guys out there that might need it

PierreAbutu:
I might understand your reasons
But as someone with a lot of ideas, I believe u might contribute in several ways to ensure my ideas come to fruition

I recently finished a manuscript on understanding women titled- 52 USEFUL TIPS FOR UNDERSTANDING WOMEN

What do u think?

My guy no one on earth can understand women. Even king Solomon couldn't understand them,

The funny thing is that even women dont even understand themselves. Tbh you would need more than 52 tips more like a billion tips and you still will not understand them

yourprincess24:
thank you for your number, but i will never call you, have a good day

damn!!! this girl/boy you wicked o

what a disgrace. I can't believe how trashy the world had become. his popularity comes from the fact that he has zero talent other than self promotion, which gives hope to millions of equally zero talented individuals who also wants to become a rich celebrity

Lordave:
Las Vegas is called Sin City, I don’t think it’s just a nickname.

Los Angeles, Atlanta, Miami, Cincinnati etc.

To an average American yes Las Vegas is the sin city. aside from the casinos and the strip clubs around, there's really nothing special about the city. but when you want to talk about all round freaky-ness, there's no place like Paris even the Americans themselves knows this

TheAfricaQueen:
Let's say we believe this wild adventure of your night in Paris. When it's time to get married would you marry these party partners or do you go and look for a virginal bride with low body count? Don't be hypocrite guys. Stand in your truth.

why not and if not. infact the major reason why I'm still single is that my mum made me promise her never to marry a white girl or a foreigner, not even to have babies with them because she believes they won't raise her grandchildren right.

but the problem is most Nigerian girls I've met are usually very boring in 'za oza room' so yes I can marry any girl in respective of her past, so long as she's ready to be exclusive with me and if I also like her enough.

Abi how do I expect her to have the experience if she hasn't passed through them in the first place

Chuky7:
mad story man...

Are you surprised...3some mostly requires high energy as in the babes need to be jovial n sometimes have a wild fantasy. something most Nigerians girls are not. only few exposed ones. boring girls.

Guy go back and enjoy parissd

Damn!!! Paris has got to be the sin capital of the world I tell you. there's not a state in the whole of America that can match the energy and adventurous spirit of paris, it's like everyone just leaves there countries to Paris to fulfill their sexual fantasies. it's just that I'm really not the type to go into details if not, if I start with all my Paris experience pages go full.

I just wish that someday Nigerian girls will get to that level of exposure

while I can't blame Wike for doing everything possible to mitigate the spread of covid19 virus in his state, I must say that the way he is going about it is wrong because if other states governors decides to follow the precedent that he is setting, it would be the innocent traders most of whom have nothing to do with Wike or rivers state that will pay for it.

just imagine the northern states governors blocking and impounding goods that are coming from the south, who do you think will pay more?

the presidential directive clearly gave room for the movement of agricultural produce and some other essential goods. I understand some people have tried breaching these rules but they are more diplomatic way of dealing with

osizi06:
Na prostitute you go do for Europe?

lol. the babes were not prostitutes o, they were just regular French girls I didn't pay any dime.

while in England for my masters degree. I went to Paris in France for a champions league game between PSG and Chelsea.

I made friends with a group of PSG fans, so after the match we all exited the stadium together, by this time I had already made friends with two beautiful French girls because they claimed to live next street to where my hotel was.

they where in high spirits because their team had won. so I invited them to my hotel for some celebration booze, after a few drinks we started playing games and soon it turned out to be a truth and dare/bottle spin.

initially with every bottle spin came off a clothing and very soon I was staring at two naked beauties with nice erect nipples. Then it was all animal instinct. we fu**ed the whole night, the girls orgasmed multiple times both of them squirted in my mouth at least once.

I also mouth fuc**d one and shot my cum deep throat. then after some rest, we fuc**d anal which was also good fun. we tried all practical positions. it was a very nice night.

next morning, they left before I even woke up. that was the first of my many party experience. Unfortunately for me, I haven't met Nigerian girls that are really good at threesomes since I got back. the ones I've met are usually very boring.

Tonnyray:
lexyking
Let's continue the gist here if it's cool with you.
So you're of the opinion I may have missed out on some simply based on assumptions?
If true that's serious

yeah. the secret of finding and dating them is to keep an open mind, that way you will stick around long enough to find your spec, like I said before most of them have the appearance of muslims but they are not.

OP may God bless you for opening this thread. first let me start with the Quote of George santayana which says that ' history is a pack of lies about events that never happened told by people who weren't there'

the rivalry between the Yorubas and the Igbos stems from the various half backed truths that both sides have been fed about the various events that led to the civil war.

The igbos believes that Awolowo betrayed them by not joining forces with them to fight against the northern forces during the war, let's not forget about the infamous advice that he gave Gowon about cutting off the food supplies to the eastern part, these actions when told by the older igbos to their youths, evokes some form of hatred towards the Yorubas.

The Yorubas on the other hand think that Azikiwe betrayed the trust of the Yorubas by using his position and popularity in the west to advance Igbo cause, he did this first by joining the north to kick against the introduction of the much needed secession clause that Awolowo was fighting for. then he later supported and participated in the creation of midwestern region from the west in order to weaken Awolowo and the Yorubas.

These historical events have led to the perpetual hatred between these two progressive tribes. the painful part of this is that the younger generations just accepts the biased narrations of these events without even trying to engage in revisionism so as to try to explain the rational behind why certain steps where taken by the two tribes.

my calls to the youth of both sides is to understand that similar to the game of thrones series, there rarely ever good or bad guys, or right or wrong sides. there's just people finding ways to further there own ends.

If only the youth will ask ourselves why we are engaging in dirty fight and arguments over what some leaders did some 70 years ago, why would I judge my fellow generational mates based on the actions of the previous generation? why after playing with ourselves, eat together, go swimming together, have so many fun together as kids would we grow and start looking at ourselves through the eyes of our grandparents?

Let us learn to judge ourselves based on individual actions rather than on a tribal action. let us allow our hearts and brains rather than some nonsensical prejudice decide for us what is right or wrong, let us learn to trust in each others goodness and most importantly let us choose to have faith in one another.

Moneywomen17:
If na south west north dey threaten like this my ipob bloda go don open their yeye mouth and start their insult.

how can you be this insensitive? it shouldn't matter what part of the south is threatened because a threat to any of the southern part by the north is a threat to all.

can't you see the boldness with which the threat was made? I'm a Yoruba man but I feel insulted all the same because of that. and instead of you to condemn such provocative utterances in its entirety, you're busy been sarcastic simply because it was not directed at your region.
I will keep saying it that until the day the south will present a united front be it for a good or even a bad cause, the north will keep playing us against each other like ping pong.

so when next the north wrongs or threaten any of the southern part. please do any of this two things. speak up against them or shut up, but never in any way show your indifference openly

OP why would you have to go and include states that are not in the southwest? in the event of the desolation of Nigeria and a possible formation of an Oduduwa republic, I think it would be best to only make plans for the 6 western states. Then we can leave the door open for others to tag along, because it will be counter productive to start including people who have not signify interest in joining our country

Is it just me or did anyone else noticed that the statement issued did not in any way denied sacking its staffs? because all I can deduce from it was them trying to tell us what we already know using different words.

In one breath they said they did not sack any staff, in another one they said it only affected there outsourced staffs.

lefulefu:
u get mind oo
a cleaner for that matter
i can imagine her having strong body odour and looking unkempt
some of u guys dey try o with the type of women wey una dey sleep with

na wa for you o. so just because she's a cleaner it means she must be dirty? well I won't dispute your level of experience. but if you see the kind of beautiful cleaners we have in my office you will learn not to judge a girl's class or neatness by the kind of job she does

Ending the lockdown is just a massive suck it and sit with fingers crossed exercise as no-one in the world knows what's going to happen. I predict a large rise in infections, but a reasonably low death rate. just my guess as most new infections will be younger, fitter people.