₦airaland Forum

FighterPilot:
South Africans were not slaves, they were remunerated for the work that they were task to do. Nigerians were the real slaves in America.

Mythical pilot man, how are you faking your life thus far?

Zulus are forever slaves - the longest serving ones for that matter. After 400 years of servile existence, they are still at the of economic and social mud in south Africa. Tell me about the 10-90 % wealth dustribution, you blind bat and self-deluding e-fraud.

jln115:
Whatever makes you smile igbo!!

whatever makes your day, lilly-livered, yellow-bellied reality-knifed conformist.

jln115:
Ok good and you are IGBOS!!

While dumb Zulus are the predominant tribe in south Africa, Igbos are not in Nigeria. Zulus qualify for the inclusive form of address for every yam-chewing goat from south Africa.

mzilakazi:
Shaka remains the greatest African king of all time in history. Like it or not. You don't have to go to internet to learn about Shaka. The world at large has been educated about Shaka from high schools.

http://answersafrica.com/african-kings.html

Obviously you're sitting squarely between the intersection of paranoia and raw _stupidity. Shaka, the defeated Zulu failed. You want proof? You were enslaved for the next 400 years.

You're officially the last slave known to humanity.
Now shut your pap and dagga ridden mouth and go look for your family plot of land sitting under the mansion of Dutch settlers, you unhinged, ignorant Muppet.

Nigeria security outfit need re-training and re-orientation. The police officers should have reported back to base once they verified that their client is in the custody of a legal law enforcement agency. Overzealousness and corruption has done them in.

What's a former executive secretary doing with police excorts? If the police would show same zeal in combating crimes and protecting the average Nigerian, they would have had my sympathy.

The Nigerian police/security outfits isn't just a matter of a few rotten apples, it is a matter of a rotten tree that needs to be cut off from the ground.

lifeisabitch:
u just had a baby girl?
Congrats. Baby girls are the best.

They are wonderful.

menesheh:
See my reply down bro. I have be warning him to desist from insulting people because we are on online, discussing voluntarily, is unfare. He should always endeavor to restrain the abusive impulses in him when making his point. At least to depict what he is professing, as a Christian.

We should be having more rational and mature discussion and arguments. I feel, this is the most sensitive and intellectual topic here on Nairaland.







You no see the bolded eediot over there


See them Christians. I never use this sort of words on you, but even if, you shouldn't replicate such, as a true Christian

Alright bro, I see it. We're not always perfect. But insulting mothers is hitting below the belt, very distasteful, especially when unprovoked. I respect his restraint for not yielding to parental back and forth. I have been following this thread. I find it quite refreshing from the Christian point of view.

Keep it polite and mature, it's a lot of asking but you can. Thanks.

Often times, Nigeria is the binoculars through which i view my personal life. And didnt we have a miracle as Nigerians went through the aftermath of the breath-ceasing presidential elections without drama ?

The world literally held its breath, Africa stood on the edge of collapse. And somehow, through all the rumblings and lightenings it all ended with an unlikely calm. That was a rare moment Nigeria defiled her critics; we were simply unpredictable. Nigeria has got to celebrate 2015 officially and individually.

Personally, this year was a moment of realization : I watched life became. It was amazing, my eyes were hers and she mirrored my hopes and love. I stayed up all night on my feet while she made crazy dance of prelude from the warmth of her watery world into mine - the world of light. After seven hours of teasing hesitations, she decided to meet me. I christened her 'Dera and Esther. A flash of clairvoyance told me she'll be great.

I kissed the forehead of her usheress, she's mine too. Thank God it was perfect. In a tiny little suburb in Delta state, I, Leslie stood in anquish of anticipation for my country and for my future. One carries my hopes, the other my name. I was anxious for nothing; Buhari was ushered in like a prophet and 'Dera came like a dove.....well not quite, she had to give the cry of life.

Lucky me.

And i drew life's lessons in these two cardinal events of my life. Sometimes we slog, we toil for what we have hope to attain. But the best things in life are often free and without tiring exertions.
I got my job -a new one- through a few friendly words and a firm hand shake. I only had to be there at that very instance, at a local eatery-cum -bar. That's God.
But I had written a thousand letters and shadowed my family hierarchy. But when it came, none of my efforts mattered, it has always been there waiting, and i was looking for it were I ought not.

And Nigeria, She was ill at ease, worrying over the likely fallout of the elections. It had been preordained; we would be unscathed anyhow.

All of life is a stage, we cannot act the part we aren't assigned. There's no one better or inferior, failure and success are only in relation to our inherent callings and never by the benchmark set by any.


2015 closes on a high for me. As we stand on the threshold of 2016, l pray to find the grace of God, for obidience and wisdom and restraint. For I am a man with a man's failings. Sexual rascality has been the weak side of many a man, and I am no exception. I love women, there are no other perfect creation. What can compare to the softness of her skin, or the gentle slope of her curves or the rhythmic bounce of her rare ?And they appear to be easily taken with me too - God help me.

mzilakazi:
On simple words. Barclays and BP does not translate to the queen. Both are just companies owned by the British nationals which have now become multinational companies.

END OF STORY.

When I tell you, you can't keep a straight line, I meant you can carry logic for 3 minutes without derailing. Just because south Africa can't project her foreign policy through her companies doesn't mean other nation's aren't doing that. For the West, their multinational firms are also their arms of diplomacy carrying their foreign policies. This tradition continues to today.

The BP and Barclay are so British, dummy. Need I remind you than even in colonial times, the royal Niger company managed the colonies of many west African countries for the British crown?

Boy, go back to school then come back for debate. You're still a nuisance of history.

mzilakazi:
In simple words.

Fighting BP and Barclay's meant you were fighting capitalists interests and not Britain. That's why Britain allowed it because they were also in full support of anti-apartheid movement. Britain sanctioned SA from Commonwealth in 1950 when Nigeria was still a colony.


Where did Selassie and Nkrumah ended? In exile away from their people isn't? after the people felt that they betrayed them. They lived their lives as heroes but died not as heroes. Mandela is by no doubt the greatest politician who has battled all, oppression, imprisonment, discrimination, marginalisation, the most wanted terrorist in the world and he defeated all. He never ran away in exile away from his people. He never ran away to Nigeria like Mofokeng, he lived among us and promiser to die with us for it was the ideal for which he was prepared to die. He even fought against Nigerian military government and defeated it.

Quit nairaland and go back to school. I only read the first line of your uncorrelated garbage before hitting the Quote button.

You claimed British BP and Barclay were not hundred percent British.
Now let me ask you, does a firm or company needs to be 100% owned before an individual or entity can claim ownership? None of south Africa's multinational companies are 100% owned by any single entity or organisation or individual. A majority share of 50% or own entitles ownership. You're an embarrassment for lack of a better word. You're rocksolid dummy-dumb-dumb through and through.

Fighting capitalist? Nigeria has never had any issues with capitalism as an idea or economic model. You're a fool.

Your father should have invested your education money raring pigs: they would have yielded a better return than you.

What a colossal waste of human effort you are.

And you're oddly emboldened even in stark ignorance. I give you that.

[quote author=FighterPilot post=40935526][/quote]You just proved I've made your nairaland sojourn a bumpy one .You rush to celebrate my fall when I stand still debunking every arguments you put out? Desperation has no better example. Mzilakazi has gone reciting meaningless tales of south African towns and villages without being able to debunk my submissions..
1) Nigeria was a front line state to South Africa's apartheid freedom.
2) Nigeria trained the SANDF as acknowledged by your own SANDF Maj. Gen Mofokeng
3) Nigeria nationalised British Barclay and British petroleum for not heeding to the economic blockade imposed by Nigeria on the apartheid government of south Africa. None of these facts he debunked. South Africa's migration of Zulus to Pretoria or captown is irrelevant.

Leslie remains unscathed, and live to die another day. You and mzilazulu are dreaming in black and white.

mzilakazi:
So, if BP and Barclays bank are British multinational does it somehow make it 100% British government owned company? You must have been drinking from palm wine. Your greedy military rulers have always wanted to nationalise British firms for their self enrichment and you used the anti apartheid campaign as a perfect excuse. That's all.

BP and Barclay bank are British companies more or less in the same regard as mtn is south African. If we nationalised mtn Nigeria, we would have nationalised a south African firm which isn't 100% south African stake.

Now look for your school teacher and give him a knock; you're a shining, dummy Muppet.

mzilakazi:
Oh!! That's a simple diplomatic operation. We do it to every country that visit us.





Mandela is the greatest black politician mother earth has ever had. He has even helped to free you from military chains. You dummy.

Mandela like South Africa is over hyped. He was a great freedom fighter and never a great politician. Matter of fact his short tenure as a statesman was marked with naive diplomatic relations, poor execution of South Africa's foreign policy and South Africa's isolation in Africa. #fact.

When Zic of Africa Nkrumah and Selassie were championing pan Africanism and fighting for the independence of south Africa, Mandela was inside his enclosed walls of political isolation. These people were part of the pioneering group than formed OAU. Mandela spent his most active years as a prisoner of south African Zulus , never for Africa.

mzilakazi:
You clearly do not know the history of South Africa that's why you are vomiting garbage in every post you write about SA history.

Do you know Shaka Zulu and other tribal Kings who fought the Boers and British in South Africa? Do you know who is Mzilikazi? Zulus have been fighting colonialism throughout the years and have never backed down. That's why you have been taught about Zulus in your schools across Africa. I have never been taught anything about Nigeria in our schools because its history is dead like a dog.

Shaka the Zulu was an itinerant, half-clothed,spear-wielding, monkey-chanting denisovan who was silly enough to go after the European invaders with poison spears and arrows. he was spectacularly defeated, he and his yam-chewing goats. Zulus have never fought any war and won in living memory. Shaka tried but you're the living proof he failed. You're poor, forever dispossessed and displaying all the symptoms of segregated educational system handed to you. Matter of fact, you have no name to bear and NONE to pass on. You're just a vacuum waiting to be utilised by waste.

Oh.... lest I forget, we did study you in school: Night Fall In Soweto comes to bear. Never in history has man been reduced to a base level of disposable item as were Zulus. My pity for you is genuinely expressed here.

mzilakazi:
The. Battle of Isandlwani where Zulus defeated the British army and regained independence throughout the Zulu Kingdom.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana

Lezz knows less about the South African history.

wiki-newt don't quote me wikipedia. The fact that you were enslaved for over 400 years proves you didn't win any war.

Battle, maybe, wars never!

Msauza:
This guy does not know the language of international relations. We do it to almost every country that supported anti apartheid campaign. That language we've heard it being told to almost every African country that visited South Africa.

And I have seen a 1000 partial ellipses,
A lady's demise by he who she pleases.
I have seen the premonition of death;
A vague flash of impression:faith's dearth

But I've never seen anything as spectacularly stupidish as what you just typed up there.

Patchesagain:
nigeria did practically nothing

as usual your hubris exceeds reality

As if your opinion counts. The words of major general Daniel Mofokeng, the foreign relations officer for SANDF ring longer and louder than the broken letters of a thousand patricks.

Fly away.

mzilakazi:
Stop fooling yourself around. Britain sanctioned SA in the 1950s when Nigeria itself was still a colony. Barclay and BP were all entities which were in the private hands of British citizens. Nigeria had done nothing in that regard. Nelson Mandela has also called for sanctions against Nigerian military rule, so what is your point. British

petroleum and Barclay bank are Britsh multinational firm which Nigeria nationalised in the fight against apartheid. You keep shifting the post, why. You're too short to carry the weight of truth. You're gifted with uncommon daftness.

mzilakazi:
I told you that Nigeria has never trained more than 10 ANC members. Give me a list of just 10.

http://itweb.co.za/mobilesite/defenceweb/home/item_id-23419/
We know you have difficulties reading but go through that link, dummy.

mzilakazi:
There you are lost again. I have never made such a claim that Apartheid government critisized the manner in which you handled deportation of Ghanains. Dont put your stinking words on my mint smelling mouth

My bad.

mzilakazi:
Zulus know better about Africa than Nigerians because of the struggle that they have been exposed to, that's why we produced greater politicians in Africa of all time in history. No match from any part of Africa can ever level their calibre.

give us Zulu politicians that are reknown other than apartheid. Slaves are foremost concerned with their freedom. You know nothing in Africa. Not even your own history.

mzilakazi:
Bwahahahaha… I told you that you don't know the history of SA. Go and learn it from the internet, it will cost you just little. I can see that you don't know what is a GREAT TREK (1835-1846). A great trek was done by the Boers or so called Afrikaners when they moved away from Natal and Cape because it was infiltrated by the English. Both provinces Natal and Cape became British protectorate as a result. Boers moved deeper into inland to Transvaal and Free State instead. That's why today most Boers are found on the inland and the English on the coastal areas.

There is no such thing as Zulu Natal. We have KwaZulu Natal, its a big province where Durban and Pietermaritzburg is. It has black and whites.

Who's interested in the recitation of your journey of slavery? The Boer's came , saw and conquered. They drove you forebears away from their ancestral habitats. The British came and conquered all and a political concession was reached somehow between the Boer's and the colonialist Brits. Zulus watched from the sidelines. End of story. Redundancy is a Zulu trait.[quote author=mzilakazi post=40928608][/quote][s]Mpumalanga is a province which has hundreds of towns and cities and has both Black and whites. It's provincial capital is Nelspruit. It must have confused you because it has an African name. Bwahahaha… a clear proof that you know too little about SA

Khayelitsha has no history under Apartheid. It only came towards the fall of apartheid in 1985. Apartheid was abolished in 1990. In fact in the 1980s apartheid was already spelling its end.[[/s]/quote] No correlation here.

Once again, your mental balance is tilting towards dementia.

KingEbukasBlog:
Very mature of you .

When your own words come back to bite you so hard .

The HYPOCRISY of atheism

That was a crunching blow of personality failure you landed him. Good one , bro.

FTBOY:
she didn't resign....she was dismissed for being incompetent. a mod who claimed she knew God but was always found in the sexuality section....what an irony! the modship got into her head and she started feeling like a demigod, choosing whom to chat with and whom to ignore. but look at her today, a common troll

She was lying then serves her right. When she gave me my ban, she denied me correspondence after writing her privately and openly. I have never seen any mod so snobbish.
Double-standard setting _bitch.

That fall from cloud 9 was long and hard. And she's having problems adjusting. Her long shrouded personality of duplicity, conflicting emotions and a pretentious cork-craver has been exposed once her cloak of MOD-ship was stripped.

Down , down , down ishilove goes.

mzilakazi:
Just by doing that little can cause you have that loud stinking mouth. Shame. What about the people who have literally lost their lives fighting for democratic South Africa. Cuba lost over 10 000, Angola around 20000 and Russia lost about 200 freedom fighters. Black South Africans were mutdered like flies and you and your useless leaders are busy stealing that struggle to yourselves. You glory thieves. You

You have irredeemable logical deficiency. I could easily dub you the schizophrenic Zulu wizard. You tried to invade Angola who called in Cuban little girls backed by Russian armoury and commandos to humiliate south Africa in the battleground and negotiated the independence of Namibia. Zulus were murdered like chickens in the Soweto uprising of 1976, and Nigeria's response was to sanction the south African government economically. When the British didn't heed the call of sanctions, Nigeria had to nationalise the British petroleum and Barclay bank of England. This forced the British into action of helping Nigeria dismantle the pillars of apartheid in S.A.

mzilakazi:
Stop fooling yourself. Nigeria has never trained more than 10 South African struggle heroes. A whole lot of them were trained in Zambia, Tanzania and Russia. Your leaders have in fact over inflated your role in the struggle against apartheid. Many countries have contributed more than you and they do not make noise and those are Lesotho, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Tanzania, Algeria, Cuba, Russia, Angola and Britain.

I have addressed this issue in my last post before you desperately edited your stand. Olodo. For the records , seek from your own official source; Maj. Gen. Daniel Mofokeng.

mzilakazi:
The truth is that the manner in which Ghanaians were driven out of Nigeria was barbaric. Some Ghanaians lost their lives. The whole population of Nigeria including the government drove poor Ghanaians to the sea. It was with no doubt more barbaric than xenophobia that happened here in SA because our government and a whole lot of people never supported it. In Nigeria it was completely a different story.

The Nigeria-ghana incident happened in the 80's and south African apartheid government were desperately battling for survival, so give us a link were the S.A government of the time were critical of the manner with which the deportation was handled. No Zulu like you should talk about African history, yours is still being told to you by we who were free to liberate you. In the 80's you were no better than domesticated animals only let out to keep alive for sustained slavery. Beast of burden.

mzilakazi:
Johannesburg and Capetown were both inhabited by black men even before the white man set his foot in SA. Capetown has many townships other than Khayelitsha. In fact Khayetllitsha is a youngest township in CT having been established in 1985. We have Langa, Nyanga, Gugulethu and many many more townships which were established before Khayelitsha came into being. Majority of Black South Africans worked in Johannesburg as miners you fool and not as gardeners. Johannesburg and Capetown has always been within the reach of Black South Africans from day 1 when they were established. Cities were neutral even whites never lived in cities, they had their own residential area. Cities was were shopping was made. Blacks worked in those cities in shopping malls. They worked as municipality workers cleaning those cities and doing maintenance. Many even lived and attended universities in cities. Mandela's offices were in the city. The history you have learnt about SA is distorted and incorrect.

Your epistle of weepings is clouded by your tears of frustration. Everyone knows Zulus own captown and jobourg until after the great trek, and the Boer's chased your lots up the trees and mountains to mpalalunga, Zulu natal and khayelitsha. The brightest of you were brought back in for gardening, butlers, cleaners and domestic servants.
It is the reason why your wealth distribution is 90% to 7% for white settlers and 10% to over 80% for Zulus.

Your gross naivety, unparalleled buffoonery and mental handicap should take the podium in the conference of dumb-dumbs.

Now get out.

mzilakazi:
Stop fooling yourself. Nigeria has never trained more than 10 South African struggle heroes. A whole lot of them were trained in Zambia, Tanzania and Russia. Your leaders have in fact over inflated your role in the struggle against apartheid. Many countries have contributed more than you and they do not make noise and those are Lesotho, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Zambia, Tanzania, Algeria, Cuba, Russia, Angola and Britain.

You always buckle and stutter in the light of truth. How many of those countries you listed were considered as frontliner states? Russia equipped Angola to wipe your military. And we trained your whole army, go inquire of your own maj. Gen. Daniel Mofokeng, head Of SANDF foreign Relations.

It is you who is trying to whittle down Nigeria's contribution with your petty lies.

FTBOY:
hey biitch, remember me? fucktoto, the guy u banned and he trolled frustration into ur life. see what u've been reduced to....from a supermod to a lousy troll. such is life. i'm still celebrating ur fall. worse is coming ur way

She claims she resigned. She couldn't have made a more honourable decision. _fucking self-righteous and prudish. Remember when I was banned in a section she wasn't moderating, did some investigation and discovered she used her far-reaching, super-MOD tentacles to ban me across section. I was mad. To pour insult to my wounds, the pervert who invited her to get me banned was also as guilty as sin with the very post he summoned her with.

Such an intelligent girl with a biased judgement and misplaced loyalty.

mzilakazi:
You nationalised British entities for your own good. Britain supported the anti-apartheid campaign and even offered to educate ANC members for free. They accommodated and even funded the ANC with millions of pounds, just more than what Nigeria could only dream of. Many of our struggle heroes were educated in UK not Nigeria.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Apartheid_Movement

http://www.aamarchives.org/

https://www.nelsonmandela.org/content/page/anti-apartheid-movement-archives1

http://www.anc.org.za/show.php?id=5695

Although officially denied by the Nigerian government, Nigeria is believed to have also provided secret military training and provided other material support to Robert Mugabe’s guerrilla forces during the Rhodesian Bush War(Renamed Zimbabwe in 1979) against white minority rule of Prime Minister Ian Douglas Smith which was backed by the government in South Africa.
To demonstrate its seriousness against multi-national companies in Nigeria that violated the economic/trade embargo on the South African regime, the local operations of Barclays Bank was nationalised after that bank ignored the strong protests by Nigeria urging it not to buy the South African government bond. Nigeria also nationalised the British Petroleum (BP) for supplying oil to South Africa.In the process of all these, Nigeria earned for itself the appellation a ‘frontline nation’, even though she was geographically far removed from the struggles in the Southern African region.http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/from-britain-s-cash-cow-to-africa-s-big-brother/172781/

mzilakazi:
Speaking about xenophobia? We first learnt about it when Nigeria was forcefully pushing Ghaians out of their country because they felt resentment towards them.

Here, I must raise my glass to your unparalleled _stupidity and short memory span. I have flogged you on this issue leaving scars deeper than the Boer's whips. In the early 80's illegal Ghanaian immigrants were OFFICIALLY deported in the manners consistent with every civilised nation. No killings, lootings or savage bloodbath like Zulu-dom.

mzilakazi:
Talking about Capetown and Johannesburg? Both CT and JHB had always been a home to black South Africans even during the days of apartheid. You really don't know much about SA politics.

Yes, you're right, Zulu butlers, cabdrivers, gardeners, security men were in captown and jobourg servicing their masters. And....yes, Soweto is just another area in (southern?) Jobourg, while Khayelitsha is in captown.

Now go to bed, if you wake up with a little bit of honesty, then come quote me in the morning.

OAUTemitayo:
Its a pity that people who cannot carry arms against their apartheid master who were slaughtering them like fowls for Christmas are running their mouth against Nigeria, the country that supported them financially, materially, diplomatically and culturally to attain independence.
What a bunch of ba...star....ds and ingrates.

It is a sad irony,But the truth is that majority of these south African Zulus don't know what Nigeria did for them, from the military angle to the diplomatic arena. We looked the British in the eye and nationalised Barkley Bank just so Zulus from mpumalanga can call Capetown home and savages from Zulu natal could inhabit Johannesburg.

All Africa got in return was Xenophobia from the ignorant Zulus and baseless competition from the ANC led government who have displayed gross incompetence in handling domestic governance and mediocrity in foreign diplomacy and engagement.

Good thing South Africa has fallen from cloud 9. It was a long and heavy fall. They aren't smilling.

nwanlecha:
@Le.zz, I don't know if you're simply ignorant or you're just being mischievous. I think the latter is the case though, so I'm not gonna indulge you. Just do you as a Nigerian & allow us Biafrans to pursue our destiny ok?

How can I afford to be mischievous over a matter so grave as the life of my country?

I am being sincere and I cannot leave the Biafra matter alone. I am from Delta state and your role model is proposing to make me a Biafran without my consent sought directly or by proxy. That is being mischievous ,miss.

Realism hurts, emotions are fantasies. Biafra is doomed from birth, flawed in structure and assimilation. If the 5 Eastern states go it alone, they'll be sandwiched in the middle by Nigeria. That will be economic suicide and social neocolonialism.

What you should be proposing is a true federal political structuring where the powers of Abuja will be limited and the states can atract their own FDI and revenue. just like 1960 to 66 before Ironsi (R.I.P) destroyed that plan with a unitary system that gave Abuja all the powers.

If you get your Biafra with the same mindset of the people it will be a mini Nigeria; same problems.

Kanu knows this, and he's playing to political concessions not secession. Wanna bet?

nwanlecha:
The way some black people reason, makes me shudder at times. Some white man, came into a geographical expression and decided that in the business interest of his country Britain, he would merge the different ethnic groups there together and call them Nigerians. Yet, you have some supposedly intelligent black people claiming that a country that was not formed to benefit the growth of her citizens, must remain one.

Do not allow the Britsh bear the entire burden of blame. Nigeria had her chance like Tanzania and her neighbouring country as did India , Pakistan and Bangladesh. These countries split apart after independence from Great Britain. Our leaders, Great Zik and co opted to keep the union. Share the blame now, will you ?

nwanlecha:
Damn! Have some of you asked yourselves, why countries in Europe are so fragmented that the population of Anambra alone is bigger than some of them?

These european countries like Denmark, finland etc see beyond race, tribe and creed. Within african tribe they still differentiate and look for pure breed. You don't want a pointer to the condescension you feel for Abakiliki or Nsuka or the superiority battle between Anambra and Imo. Or the polluted Igbo-ness of Anioma and Rivers Igbos.

nwanlecha:
A country made up of people who have completely different ideologies and values can never have patriotic citizens and thus, can never progress.

The united states, Britain, Canada, to a certain extent France all have diveresed citizens and culture and values. The united states after the 13 founding colonies of the UK is virtually made up of all of western Europe and later the entire world. There are many more examples.

nwanlecha:
Who does not know that the only thing holding Nigeria together is oil?

That's untrue. Oil was founded much later after independence.

nwanlecha:
Is there any love among Nigerians? The hatred the Hausas and Yorubas have for the Igbo man is second to none. Which sane Igbo man will be happy to remain in a country where the blood of innocent Biafrans is consistently used to water her unity?

That's playing to the gallery of emotions and sentiments. Be careful, don't incite violence and stir the readers.

nwanlecha:
Finally, y'all are always fond of referring to those of us agitating for a nation we can call our own as miscreants, yet I've never heard any of you refer to the Catalonians or Scots in such derogatory terms. Why do black people never value their own that are trying to make a change for the better?

The scots and the Catalonians went about in a referendum in the pusuit of secession. What referendum has biafran proponents embarked? What is the proposed biafran map? Are the people of Niger-delta ready to go with you? Inciting violence and hate on radio is criminal and cowardly.After a referendum, the people of Scotland voted to remain in the UK. Let Biafra carry a referendum. The demonstration of social rascality by jobless youths who can't even spell Kalu isn't a referendum

nwanlecha:
You believe that because it looks impossible to achieve Biafra, we should continue living as 2nd class citizens in Nigeria. With the mindset of people like you, slavery would have never ended in America today.

Igbos aren't and don't live like 2nd class citizens. While the rest of Nigeria will learn tenacity, entrepreneurship and industriousness from Igbos, Igbos should learn political maturity, cohesion and moderation from most tribes in Nigeria.

The way you heated the polity in the senate during Obasanjor's tenure was sheer disaster. You lack leadership and it's a cultural thing which carries its advantages and disadvantages.

And why the heck is it always youth mapping the path of secession? Where are your elders?

nisai:
lezz my oga,hope you are keeping well bro?Biafra is coming or what do you think?

I am well brother. Other than the scorching harmattan, I'm enjoying life.

I'm sorry but Biafra lacks sincerity. If the struggle is to take advantage of the ultra-aggressive and often violent trend set by OPC, MEND and recently, Boko haram, it might have a degree of success- i.e , get the attention of the federal government, get an Igbo leader either the vice presidency or even the presidency itself, it could happen. But at what expense?

The Igbo society is structured like no other in Nigeria, a mend/bokoram kind of campaign will plunge the east into land of waste and chaos. Perhaps, the OPC system might work better where, in the West ,it proved to be sophisticated and suffered less damage.
This account is all based on the assumptions that igbos want a better political relationship in Nigeria and don't want out of the union.


On the chances of Biafra seceding, the chances are slim, not so much as the objection of Abuja, but by the very physical structure and cultural make-up of the peoples involved and as much as the plan that is setup.

By physical structure, I mean the geographical space as constituted in the map of Biafra. Delta, Rivers, Bayelsa, Cross-river, Akwa-ibom etc, these are the inclusive states to be conflated into Biafra. Has any referendum be carried to seek the will of these diverse people?
There are considerable Igbo groups in Delta and Rivers states, but does political affiliation rely on tribe absolutely ?

A Biafra without Rivers or Delta states with access to the sea is landlocked in between Nigeria and whatever political identity the southern region will be known by. Or worse, it will be sandwiched in between Nigeria like Lesotho is to South Africa. We don't need socio-economic and political crash courses to know the implications.

By cultural make-up, I refer to the peoples that will people the proposed Biafra nation. The idea of a united Niger-delta speaking with one voice is misleading. The Niger-delta is as diveresed as the middle-belt and lacks unanimous consensus in most political matters.

The Igbo's great zeal for entrepreneurship, itinerancy and cultural blending is another mitigating factor. They run the macro and micro and import business economy of Nigeria.

What is the opinion of the Igbo business class on Biafra? Misinformed, and stark illiterate youths are not adequate feelers of the people's consent on Biafra.

I don't intent to make this long.....but there's no problem with Nigeria, just the mindsets of the people in Nigeria.


Change the mindset and change the political structuring and it could be a better place.

Breaking up into tiny bits with the same mindset will only produce the problems that occasioned the very first splitting.

Only by that time, we might be worrying about external invasion.

Tequilah:
Classic response!! Chisos, I love this!

Thank you,bro.

Dragonking:
Thanks Lezz.

you're welcome, bro.

EasternPride:
You tried, but still you didn't really make sense.

Coming from you I'll take it as a complement. Reality often doesn't have much appeal.

Dragonking:
Heya, I see the pain but we pay allegiance to no one...Am glad you know that our land is flowing with milk n honey that's why u are currently there for survival and not in Biafra..

don't sweat it, Biafra is a mere political agitation for political relevance and concession. After the success of Opc and mend, and now bokoharam in drawing national attention to their political destitution, I was surprised it took this long for the East to come up with this.

I don't see Biafra coming off, that ship ain't sailing even if River state gives it access to the Atlantic. it will end in our history books as a failed attempt at political revisionism.

iAmCharis:
Hi bro, I love how you arrange your verbiage. Nice one man! I wish to be like you when I grow up.