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How do I get rid of the smell of the Ofada rice? The first time we cooked it at home, it stank up the whole house. Someone told my sister we should wash with hot water and salt and today, that's what I did. It was a lot better, cos it didn't smell as much, but it still smelled. And I had to wash the thing so many times, more than 10 times, I'm sure. We are just trying to finish what she bought, so it won't go to waste. The rice wahala too much. And I don't know what the craze for it is about. Lagosians and fads!

Ndipe:
Interesting @liftedone

I'm not very sure how to interprete you comment. Can you elaborate?

About time.

I don't see anything wrong with it at all. We were always encouraged to do so in church in order to give us an understanding of their religion and to help us witness better( I schooled in the North). So yea, read it if you can lay your hands on one.

ROFL.

debosky:
First of all, its Debosky. . . no additions ok?

Either you are frustrated or are simply a drama queen. . .

I didn't say I did not respect your opinion - I do, but the manner in which it was delivered is quite amusing.

My point about the hanging thing was that why would you 'African' women not make the sacrifices those other races make? Do you think that makes you superior? Just a thought really, thats all.

By all means marry an Asian, their small willies will not demand any hanging business

WICKED.

The Anti-Christ is any system that contradicts God or stands in rebellion to the ways of God. In a way, many anti-Christs have come and governments and institutions have been likened to the anti-Christ, like the Roman Empire, Nero and some of such leaders who have perpetrated evil. It's not, however, our place as Christians to look out for or search for where the anti-Christ is going to come from. Our duty and responsibility is to ensure that we are able to resist his lying signs and wonders when he appears. And we are not to work ourselves into a frenzy at any sign of a person who appears to exhibit the characteristics of the anti-Christ, rather, to faithfully follow the Lord and hold on to our beliefs in the face of the contrary activities of the anti-Christ who will deceive many.

Definitely flogging. My father was a teacher but I can actually count on one hand the number of times I was flogged growing up by both parents. My eldest sister got the brunt of their discipline. I think my little sister only got smacked in the bum once or twice. I had friends who used to come to school with scars on their body, it was pretty odd.

But school teachers were so mean. We got punished all the time, most times, en-masse, when only one student may have committed an offence. Wicked teachers. (I think I reaped a bit of what my dad sowed there)

cescky:
i want to ask this disturbing question, is it right for a christain to drink(alcohol)?ive been baffled for an answer to this for some time now.
am a christian and ve been through a lot of troubles some times i just wish life will just end, ive prayed sometimes,fasted a few times, however am not happy with whats happening to me. As a result things am going through i ask things like why me?, and start getting doubts about life,thats when i go out and have a lilttle drink,after getting tipsy i think clearly about life,God and things in general then i remember many of the dangers Hes saved me from(literarily ive been through the valley of the shadow of death).then i get hope and some faith and am thinking maybe He still cares for me afterall,though am sure he still does,its the alcohol part that baffles me, is it good for a christian to drink?

I was discussing the exact same thing with my younger brother's wife who is concerned about him because he likes a little tipple now and then. This is a tough question because it's one of those subjective issues in the bible for which there are varied views in the Christian body, especially with Paul's letter to Timothy advising him to use a little wine for his frequent ailments. I'll need to study that and understand the context of it.

Having said that, the issue of a Christian drinking alcohol is not so much a right and wrong thing but what effect alcohol has on the mind. The Bible says in Ephesians 5:18: "Don't be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead be filled with the Holy Spirit". I believe you cannot be filled with two things at the same time. Drinking wine is associated with the old way of living with the selfish desires which we are to put to death Colosians 3:5. The joy that comes from the Holy Spirit is longer lasting and can free us from our anxieties instead of trying to crowd out our pain with alcohol. Proverbs 23:29-35(AMP): emphasis on 33-35: "Under the influence of wine your eyes will behold strange things and loose women, and your mind will utter things turned the wrong way, untrue, incorrect and petulant. Yes, you will be as unsteady as he who lies down in the midst of the sea, and as open to disaster as he who lies upon the top of a mast. You will say, they struck me, but I was not hurt; they beat me as with a hammer, but I did not feel it. When shall I awake? I will crave and seek more wine again and escape reality".

Israel was a wine growing country but they were not immune to the dangers of alcohol. Under the influence of alcohol, a righteous man like Noah lay stark naked which led to one of the younger sons seeing him and leading to the cursing of his descendants( some say the black race are descendants of Ham/Canaan - I don't know) Genesis 9:28. Lot's daughters got him inebriated on purpose so that they could sleep with him and bear children. Genesis 19:30-38.

What is the point in all I'm saying? Drinking wine leads to the dulling of the senses which makes otherwise intelligent people to act foolishly and lowers the capacity for self control which goes against the grain of the fruit of the spirit of self control. We have to be alert to the dangers of wine as it clouds the ability for good judgement when one is under the influence and can lead one to compromise their principles. Wine can only give you a temporary high. The Holy Spirit is there to help you live a lasting life of joy and peace and as you rely on him, you will see that your dependence on alcohol will wane over time and you will give it up effortlessly by the power of the Holy Spirit within you. Be strong. You are an overcomer.

I can't make you love me by George Michael.

@Jesoul, to God be the glory for his wisdom and may he continue to enlighten us as we faithfully share with one another in the spirit of love and humility. Stay strong in him, he will keep you in his perfect care always.

@anonimi: 2Timothy 2:4(AMP): "No soldier when in service gets entangled in the enterprises of civilian life; his aim is to satisfy and please the one who enlisted him". My context is we are in the world but we are not of the world.

anonimi:
what do you think of Matthew 22: 15-22, particularly verse 21 concerning paying taxes to Caesar? Do you think it applies only to paying taxes to government or rather goes beyond to include obligations to government as citizens? The story is also in Mark 12, Luke 20 to emphasise the important lesson therein.
you can also read the Epistles, which contain several references of recommended Christian attitudes to societal issues and governance.

You have completely taken me out of context, sweetheart. Maybe you need to understand the spirit of what I was saying more than the letter of it. I was not referring to civilian matters in the context that you've taken it here. Do you have an axe to grind with me regarding the whole tithe and offering issue? I don't think we should bring disagreements from other threads to a new thread. I choose to agree to disagree with any Christian who does not have the same opinion with me on any matter because my race is mine and theirs is theirs. Please let us have the right attitudes.

Why do Christians suffer?

There are many books that have been written about this. But the best one I know is the book of Job in the Bible. Read it with a study bible like The Life Application Study Bible or better still a bible commentary that you can lay your hands on. The Matthew Henry Commentary is a popular one.

If you are going through a tough time in your Christian walk, one of the first things to check is to see if there’s un-confessed  sin in your life from which you have to repent and be restored to fellowship with God. Psalm 32:1-5: Blessed is he whose transgression is forgiven, whose sin is covered. Blessed is the man to whom the Lord does not impute iniquity. And in whose spirit there is no deceit. When I kept silent, my bones grew old through my groaning all the day long. For day and night your hand was heavy upon me; my vitality was turned into the drought of summer. I acknowledged my sin to you and my iniquity I have not hidden. I said I will confess my transgressions to the Lord. And you forgave the iniquity of my sin.

Suffering can be the result of God’s discipline. Hebrews 12:7-13: If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons. Furthermore, we have human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to the Father of spirits and live?

Other times, we suffer because we make wrong decisions, not surrendering to the Lord or allowing the Holy Spirit to guide us. So we reap the consequences of our actions. Galatians 6:7, 8: Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life.

Then of course we suffer for no other reason other than that the devil hates us because we are children of God, cue the situation of Job.

Jesus did not promise us roses without thorns even though he came that we might have life and have it more abundantly John 10:10. He said in John 16:33(AMP): I have told you these things so that in Me you may have perfect peace and confidence. In the world you have tribulation and trials and distress and frustration; but be of good cheer, take courage, be confident, certain, undaunted, for I have overcome the world- I have deprived it of power to harm, have conquered it for you.

In any kind of Christian suffering, however, our attitudes in it matter more than what we are going through itself. James 1:2-4(AMP): Consider it wholly joyful, my brethren, whenever you are enveloped in or encounter trials of any sort, or fall into various temptations. Be assured and understand that the trial and proving of your faith bring out endurance and steadfastness and patience; but let these have full play and do a thorough work, so that you may be people perfectly fully developed with no defects lacking nothing. And no trial has ever overcome you but such as is common to man. 1 Corinthians 10:13.

When you suffer therefore, you can be like Paul who rejoiced in the midst of difficult circumstances and enjoined others to do same Philippians 4:4, giving thanks in all things 1Thessalonians 5:18.  Habakkuk who was thankful even when there was no harvest Habakkuk 3:17-19(this one I call the recipe for hard times When nothing makes sense and when troubles seem more than you can bear, remember that God gives strength. Take your eyes off your difficulties and look to God).  Be patient Romans 12:12.

Know also that you will overcome Romans 8:35-37, 1John 4:4; 5:4. And God is with you and so be comforted Psalm 139; Isaiah 43:1, 2

And Hebrews 13:5(AMP): for God himself has said I will not in any way fail you nor give you up nor leave you without support. I will not I will not I will not in any degree leave you helpless, nor forsake you, let you down relax My hold on you. Assuredly not! What a comfort

We must courageously accept what God allows in our lives and remain firmly committed to him.

@komekn, no tire oh! LOL.

Seriously, though, I think we do really need to sit ourselves down and ask a few hard questions why things still remain the way they are, in spite of all the prayers. Indeed there's need for accountability in the body of Christ. There's a practice of turning a blind eye in christendom which is really disgusting. If we who are called by his name, humble ourselves, turn from our wicked ways and pray then and only then will he hear from heaven and heal our land. As long as we regard iniquity in our hearts he will not hear us. We need a revolution in christendom, a new way of thinking and facing issues clearly. What has happened to correction, instructions in righteousness, suffering as good soldiers of Jesus Christ and not entangling ourselves in civilian matters? There's much to be desired in Christianity in Nigeria. And prayer may look defeatist to some, but no action can be taken unless we pray first. And let that revolution start with the man in the mirror.

Ify, the Urhobo makossa is on the way. How do I get it to you? That "suya" thingy, not for me. I will not allow that thing to pass through my mouth. It's like eating locusts and crickets (ate crickets growing up, yuck!) But now, no I won't try it. But I like kpokpo garri, especially the salted one. Everybody that travels home always has a mandate to bring kpokpo garri for me or they are not to come to the house.

Ola, hope that "owo" has not torn your intestines out? 

Isoko wadoooooooooo.

Luke 18:1: Then Jesus spoke a parable to them, that men always ought to pray and not lose heart.
1Timothy 2:1-3: Therefore, I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peacable life in all godliness and reverence. For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour.
1Thessalonians 5:17: Pray without ceasing.
Romans 12:12: rejoicing in hope, patient in tribulation, continuing steadfastly in prayer.
Ephesians 6:12,18: For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places; praying always with all prayer and supplication in the spirit.

Yes, let's pray. Things may not be changing at the rate we may want them to but there are many changes occuring that should encourage us to more prayers.

Ify, someone said he'll help me look for that Urhobo makossa when he goes to Warri. The boy is still in town, I don't know when he's traveling but I'll remind him again tomorrow. Okorojuju dance, I've not seen my mum to ask her. I've not been home in about 5months. The road is still a nightmare, the last time I traveled I was very sick afterwards because of all the dust, ended up in hospital. So, I'm kind of wary about entering that road now, it's too stressful.
That your 'owo' soup sha, na die. Kome, don't come back with  tummy ache after eating that original Ify concoction of a soup o. I never heard owo soup was emergency soup o. I no send you o. Me I no know the head or tail of owo soup, only one of my aunties prepares it when we have ocassions at home. I was also telling my elder sister today when I thought of it, I realised that I have never actually started and completed the preparation of banga soup, strange for a homegrown Isoko girl.

As for circumcision, I guess some people still do it. I hear about it whenever they have traditional marriages. But I have never witnessed one and none of us girls in my family are circumcised( there are 5 of us girls in the family). It was never in my agenda, I heard my elder sister, who is more comformist talk about wanting to get it done at some point of our growing up. But she never came round to it. I met a lady from Gambia who is circumcised and her little girls are also circumcised. We were really mad at her for allowing her girls to be with all the enlightenment about it and this is a woman who lives in London for more than half of the year with her family. Some people just can't let go of tradition. There are all kinds of myths about female circumcision and they are all just that, myths.

Isoko wadooooo!. Where's ufobabe?

ty4real:
@Poster!
What is the evidence that therational is a human and not a demon?

Ifyou can answer this then you would have answered the thread you started.

LOL. That cracked me up.

@ufobabe, welcome to this thread. Please speak some Isoko for us. 
Isoko Wadoooo!

Permit me to share some truths I have gleaned from study bibles and commentaries since this whole tithing matter is still raging. The issue many seem to be raising is that tithe refers to the Old Testament. Do the laws of the Old Testament still apply to us today?

1. Deuteronomy 8:10: “And what nation has decrees and regulations as righteous and fair as this body of instructions that I am giving you today?” God’s laws are designed to guide all people toward lifestyles that are healthy, upright and devoted to God. Their purpose was to point to sin and the way to deal with it. The Ten Commandments are still as applicable to us today because they proclaim a lifestyle endorsed by God. There are other laws besides the Ten Commandments and God never issued a law that didn’t have a purpose. Many of the laws were directed at the people of that time and culture and we do well to know and understand the context of a scripture in order to rightly divide it. Even though a specific law may not apply to us as Christians, the timeless truth or principle behind the law does. In that light, the blessings inherent in tithing as seen in Malachi 3:8-10 is one I find hard to resist and apply to my life because it has not lost its potency.

2. Jesus in teaching about the law said in Matthew 5:17-20: “Don’t misunderstand why I have come. I did not come to abolish the Law of Moses or the writings of the prophets. No, I came to accomplish their purpose. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not even the smallest detail of God’s law will disappear until its purpose is achieved. So if you ignore the least commandment and teach others to do the same, you will be called the least in the Kingdom of Heaven. But anyone who obeys God’s laws and teaches them will be called great in the Kingdom of Heaven. But I warn you, unless your righteousness is better than the righteousness of the teacher of religious law and the Pharisees, you will never enter the Kingdom of Heaven!”  There were three categories of law in the Old Testament: 1. The Ceremonial law,which related specifically to Israel’s worship which was to point forward to Jesus Christ and became unnecessary after his death and resurrection. We are no longer bound by this law but the principle which is to love and obey a holy God still applies. 2. The Civil law which applied to daily living in Israel. Modern society and culture are radically different from that time and setting and all the guidelines cannot be followed specifically. The principles are however, timeless and should guide our conduct. 3. The Moral law, such as The Ten Commandments which are direct commands from God and require strict obedience. It reveals the nature and will of God and it applies today.

3. Acts 21:23-24. “Here’s what we want you to do. We have four men here who have completed their vow. Go with them to the Temple and join them in the purification ceremony paying for them to have their heads ritually shaved. Then everyone will know that the rumors are all false and that you yourself observe the Jewish laws”. Paul, a man of strong convictions was willing to compromise on non-essential points. No one should violate his conscience, but we should remain firm on Christian essentials and stay true to our convictions. Christ fulfilled the law and released us from the burden of guilt. But the law still teaches many valuable principles and provides guidelines for grateful living.

4. In the Parable of the hidden treasure, Jesus said in Matthew 13:52(NIV): “Therefore, every teacher of the law who has been instructed about the Kingdom of Heaven is like the owner of a house who brings out of his storeroom new treasures as well as old”. “Every teacher of religious law who becomes a disciple in the Kingdom of Heaven is like a homeowner who brings from his storeroom new gems of truth as well as old.” (NLT). Anyone who understands God’s real purpose in the law as revealed in the Old Testament has a real treasure. The Old Testament points the way to Jesus, the Messiah. Jesus always upheld its authority and relevance. Both the old and new covenant give practical guidelines for faith and for living in the world.

5. Hebrews 3:5: “Moses was certainly faithful in God’s house as a servant. His work was an illustration of the truths God would reveal later”. Knowing the Old Testament is the best foundation for understanding the New Testament. In reading the Old Testament, we see how God used people, events and personalities to accomplish his purposes and prepared the way for the Messiah. Including the Old Testament in regular bible reading will make the New Testament clearer and more meaningful.

The Christian institutes are so far from thwarting and contradicting that which was the main design of the Jewish religion. Christ made an improvement of the law and the prophets by his additions and explications and commands nothing now which was forbidden either by the law of nature or the moral law, nor forbids those things which the laws had enjoined. It is a great mistake to think that he does.

@ola, "bonga soup" Serious LOL. Hot pepper soup for you for that.
Ify, na wa for you. Where you dey get these your stories from? Dancing kiniko. Girl, you been around naija. I hail you. I'll have to ask my Mum about Isoko dances. This one whey you describe na die.
Isoko wadoo!!!

Ifyalways, kedu kodi? Imela. Kachifo. I think I just said how are u, welldone, goodnight, abi?
Igbooooo kweeenu!

@olanajim, I didn't say twins are not popular, but they are not common like you find in Yorubaland. As for the myth, if it were true, we would surely have twins in my family, if not from my mum, then from one of her children, cos that woman sure eats a lot of yam, with banga soup and starch. LOL. I'm surprised you don't know about pepper soup. I thought the Yorubas were renowned for their pepper eating prowess. The spices are sold in markets in Lagos. I can give you the recipe if you want. It's very easy.

ifyalways:
@ice zik Yeah,they really like Yam and the goodnews is that they have a lot of varieties.they have the water yam and even the red yam.my fav.Yam meal is the water yam cooked with peppersoup with plenty fishes garnished with red oil. . . .sweeeet

O girl, na which one be this? Does it have a name?

Anyhow, our main food is Banga soup and starch. I'm not particular about the starch but my Mom and sisters make a mean banga soup with fresh or dried fish or smoked chicken like my sister does. We also have what is called "Ukodo", which is usually goat meat boiled like pepper soup but then you add yam to it. You can also make it with chicken. Delicious. Of course, pepper soup is a regular. We eat it regularly at home, mainly on saturdays.

Olanajim, what's this myth about those who eat yam bearing twins? We don't have twins in my family and we've always eaten yam and twins is not very common among my people, not like with the Yorubas.

I pay tithes because I believe it is a commandment from the Lord as stated in Malachi 3:8-10. Jesus also made reference to it in Matthew 23:23: “…….For you pay tithes of mint and anise and cumin and have neglected the weightier matters of the law, justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done without leaving the others undone”. However, I understand the antipathy expressed by different commentators here about it. I believe tithing, like speaking in tongues is one of the areas that Christians must agree to disagree.

The first instance of tithing is Abraham’s tithe to Melchizedek, Genesis 14:19. Jacob also made a vow to God to give him a tithe of all, Genesis 28:20-22.

When you go through the book of Deuteronomy, it gives many accounts of tithing and how it should be used. But before that, the Israelites were required to tithe of their crops, fruit and herds. Leviticus 27:30-32. The tithe was received by the Levites to support them. Numbers 18:21, 24. The Levites were in turn to give a tithe of the tithe to support the priests. Numbers 18:26-29. God promises blessings for those who faithfully tithe, and he says that refusing to tithe is like robbing him. Malachi 3:8-12.

Having said that, when Paul spoke about giving, he told the church in Corinth to make a collection based on how they had prospered, 1 Corinthians 16:2. He also said in 2Cor 9:7: Let each one give as he purposes in his heart, not grudgingly or of necessity; for God loves a cheerful giver. I like the New Living Translation: “You must decide how much to give. And don’t give reluctantly or in response to pressure”. For me, this is the crux of the matter and this is where people have issues with tithing and the whole giving in the Church. It is the manner in which it is done and the lifestyles exhibited by those who receive it. It is the way tithing and giving have been magnified above all other biblical doctrine, where people even steal to give because of some promised immediate magical return, as if God were a magician. It is the way God has been turned into some kind of all purpose grocery store for all kinds of demands and expected returns, where Christians equate spirituality with material possessions, where people are compelled to give, if the pastor coughs, give, if you say amen, give, all sorts and this is all about the greed of the people propagating the gospel of giving to the exclusion of all else.

People should be allowed to give willingly and not compelled to do it. Tithing is not a one size fits all Christian doctrine just like speaking in tongues. But I believe that by taking that tenth first and foremost out of your income or whatever it is you receive helps you to put God first, creates a spiritual discipline in you and makes you remember that God is the source of all you have. You may be a very mature Christian who is fully dedicated to God and so have been able to overcome withholding you goods from God and don’t have to struggle to give to him. But that comes from many years of growth in the Lord. And even at that, one has to keep watch.

The tenth of our increase is a very fit proportion to set apart for the honour of God and the service of his sanctuary. But tithing without love for or obedience to God amounts to nothing more than meaningless ritual. And a giving attitude is more important than the amount given.

samueloo:
i think the best option is for someone to go get it at his church in olaogun street,ibadan{sword of the spirit ministries}. because most of bishop's books are usually hard to find in book stores epecially in lagos.

I thought of that but I don't know anyone who lives in Ibadan. Do you?

Komekn, you mean you can read the Isoko bible? Gosh, that's the one that really pains me, not being able to read the Isoko bible. I feel kind of robbed. Nonetheless, Isoko wadoo!
Ifyalways, Ochuko, I think is more Urhobo. I have a cousin who is called Othuke, which is the Isoko equivalent. I think it means someone who is a kind of rock or foundation, but I really need to confirm that. It's one of the more complex names that cannot easily be translated. I'm going to the Igbo section to support you now. Igbo kwenu!. Ooops, lights out, the gen is off and this laptop battery is no good. Tomorrow, love. Take care and God bless.

Ify, I never see my brother. he should know these things. Don't worry, I'll keep u posted. And thanks for helping to keep this thread alive. You too, olanajim.
Komekn, you are so lucky to have had access to the history of Isoko and all. I wonder how you could have been interested in that at a young age. I never was, until now that I'm much older. My father was a teacher too, but I read more of African and western literature. Do you speak the language of the 'socio-political division' called Isoko? LOL.

olanajim:
"nyaze" lifedon, ify, "keria" and let have more vocabulary.

With "uyoyo" to you all!

Great? Let see how I won't beat it!

LOL.

Ify, I'm consulting the Isoko bible for more words. 
And that reminds me, another word: Kome - give me. It's usually used as a name like Oghenekome. Oghene - God. Full translation is God gave me or God's gift. Onome ( a name) - this is mine or mine, like Nkem in Igbo.

I remember reading something on the internet about an NGO in one of the East African countries who supply young school girls and many women sanitary towels because many of them were missing school because they could not afford to buy sanitary towels. Even though this advert may be offensive, it is based on truth.

What it all comes down to is our attitude when we point out the faults of others. If we are smug about it and feel that we are better than the other person, then we are certainly being judgemental.

@Jesoul, what Paul was talking about in that passage in 1Cor 6:1-7 is not about judging one another because then, he would be contradicting what Jesus said in Matthew 7. He is talking about when Christians go to the law when they have disputes with one another. That Christians ought not to go to the secular courts when they have disagreements because Christians have the Holy Spirit and because of the authority Christians will have in future, they should be able to resolve the minor disputes that arise between them and not have to go to law against one another.

@4Him, again, I don't think trying the spirits can be equated with judging or you can be accused of judging someone because you see a different spirit working in them. There are many voices out there that claim to be speaking for God. When you test the voices, you are simply checking to see that what they claim about God is in conformity with the word of God and the fruits they bear and their lifestyles reflect that word.

@Jesoul, I just noticed you were talking about 1Cor 5:12. Our motive in taking the actions we take when a Christian is deliberately committing sin should still be posited within the passage in Galatians 6:1. I will never point a finger at somebody and say that person is going to hell because I don't know what God's grace can do or is doing in that person's life. If someone claims to be a Christian and is living contrary to the word of God, I will rather question whether they are truly Christians in the first place and they really know God at all. Because the bible says no one who is a child of God deliberately sins. When someone is living in sin as a Christian, the church's duty is to confront and discipline but it must be done in love. And walking in love is an area where Christians and the Church are failing woefully.

Money - ugho.
Urhobo makossa, no. I'll ask one of my brothers.
I'll be coming with more words. Let me go and consult my sister's bible.