todak:

@babs
I doubt if you listen to yourself before you post, you look like someone who has brain short-sightedness, you have been brain drained that you can not distingush the truth form false, ok i will ask youn these question and you answer tham:

Where do we have the highest number of Terrorist camps in the world?

I have several options, either from Afganistan, Iraq, Isreal, palestines and the father US. You can take anyone that suit you.

Which religion do they claim to profese?

From CNN,BBC etc. majorly postulating Islam.

Who are their sponsorers?

I don't know?

Whom do they attack most and why?

Several reasons, depends on them, maybe you present a case.

you need to tell me position of terrorists in the quran, will they be rewarded or punished.

This is nice and intelligent question, first I would start by definition of TERRORISM: "it is the systematic use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective." And in line with what Allah says in the Quran. Act of terrors exceeds the limits as stated according to the following verses in the Quran:

1. [Qr2:178] O you who believe! retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain, the free for the free, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female, but if any remission is made to any one by his (aggrieved) brother, then prosecution (for the bloodwit) should be made according to usage, and payment should be made to him in a good manner; this is an alleviation from your Lord and a mercy; so whoever exceeds the limit after this he shall have a painful chastisement.

2. [Qr2:190] And fight in the way of Allah with those who fight with you, and do not exceed the limits, surely Allah does not love those who exceed the limits.

Just to mention few, no matter what justification for it may exist, terrorism always exceeds the limits set by Allah, because terrorism deliberately intends to kill innocent people.

for example
[Qr18:74] So they went on until, when they met a boy, he slew him. (Musa) said: Have you slain an innocent person otherwise than for manslaughter?
Certainly you have done an evil thing.

and whoever exceeds the limits is a paifull torment(in the Hellfire) according to the Quran.

do not send lies to me ok.

I believe youve hear the truth, meanwhile I have a question! Kindly explain the killing in old testament with terrorism definition, do we have any correlation.

@Todak,

God had so many names and different names, to Abraham, he was Jeovah Ralpha-The lord my provider, to Moses- he was the I AM THAT I AM, to the Jews, he is YVHW, usually called Yaweh, to the christians- he has uncountable names but every one knows him as the ALMIGHTY GOD WHO CREATED THE HEAVENS AND EARTH,so please let babs tell us in what history and where did the word allah used by Abraham or whoever if not in Mecca where he was the chief god.

Believe me! Allah was not started in mecca,google it well before I started bombarding you with evidences. However, you only mentioned few, Jesus also called God ELOI. I think you forget this.

You are always nervours when i reply your post, i am sure the post hitted you even to your bone marrows, do what do you have to say, give us your own opinion, ITK (I TOO KNOW), since i am an olodo, you wre short of word and could not help your self than to bust like a purewater. hahahahah, sorry allah's slave, may God not make me a slave ooooooo Amen oooooooooo.  now you neet to answer the question atleast on behalf of my christian brothers (Davidlan and No2atheism) i have answered , now thw question:

Nobody is nervous to read/hear your post. Many posts here not only hitted the bones, but also, all the blood capillaries right to the brain. You know why? They are fulls of lies!

Now, to a lower generations, what is name of God according to Abraham, Moses and Jesus. I think all of them came before Muhammad.

Can someone dare the proof, then can clear the differences of which God Muslims, Christians or Jew is serving.

I asked the question, according to bible, do we have such name Allah in it or not. If not explain the relation between the words ELOI/ELOHIM/ELAHW and ALLAH.

please do not tell us youtr usuall old story of the moon god, ok, go make your research and be sincere ok. babs  Wink Wink

There is no moon god in Islam according to the Quran or Hadith. The manifestation started with prophet Ibrahim, when he saw moon, he said this can't be my god coz it appear and disappear. Now you can tell us where your evidence is?

@poster,

I will like to refer you to "Lawful and the forbidden in Islam". by Yusuf Qardawi

If I have time I would present it here.

@Badriyyah

Badriyyah:

One question. If God who knows the past,present and future, knew that such an act would be identified as something horrible now. Why did he allow his messenger to go on with it?? Because such an act has lead to stuff like this today.

http://www.channel4.com/programmes/unreported-world/catch-up#2871275

See, we human being always want to know reasons for many things. It wasn't barbaric, we humanbeing made barbaric out of it.
Why God allow Adam and Eve to eat from the forbidden fruit tree? Does God preserve the tree for His special children? Or God want it for Himself?
Considering people of many centuries back, do we have the same maturity age or old age? Definitely NO. Do we have the same education? NO. Compare the nine year old girl, 1500yrs ago with the same of today definitely there is different. I wasn't part of the people then. However, I have read it historically that girl from 10-15 years of age do marry men of 60 - 90 years during byzatine period before Islam.

On the marriage of prophet Muhammad and bint Abubakri, Aisha, there are several hadiths relating age of Aisha, one of such Hadiths says 9, others says the marriage was not consumated untill when Aisha was 12,14 years old. So, there was variation in the Hadiths. Propagandist only stick to 9 because they want to make fun out of it.
In this present generation, I ve seen severals girls married at the age of 14 and they are mothers today, not even related to religion amongst Yorubas and Ibos. The basic fact is, the world is changing and Allah endowed us the wisdom to apply to the changing world.

Wisdom has levels, for example, if hadith says a time is comming when women will wear cloth and yet naked. Now, it is very obvious now, that many women wear cloth, yet they are naked, coz you see the major parts of there body outside including shapes, breast and the likes and also the sexy movement. No matter how you preach to them, they would tell you they are not naked. Believe me, just simple as it is, it requires wisdom. My dear sister, that is why people with quarterly baked knowledge(and still claiming they know) do have problem, especially on the part of religion and history.

Many men of God have pass out right from the stone age to the present moment and if they have opportunity rise again and relate the ways things were done, believe me, it will be barbaric to us. And we continue to ask why God do this or that?

@noetic,

noetic:

well considering that violence is the only language allah taught mohammed, whom u follow, ur inability to comprehend and answer questions logically while debating objectively is no surprise to me, thou apologist of allah.

Violence  with clause in many muslims instances. I said it, you need a cure for heart diseases. Hatred. Just tell someone to read through this threab only and tell you who you are.

 u just made my day with this statement.  

what a terrible father u are. without remorse and a convicting conscience.

If the such marriage barbaric then, it wouldn't have been accepted. I was widely common, even in the biblical ages.

no wonder u and ur brethren would willingly kill for the blood thirsty and demonic allah.

You ve saying this all this while. Answer my questions.

once again

@ noetic,

maybe I should put it straight. I thought if I dont explain, you will ask for ref:

1. what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

2. Anlyse the words "LAILAHI ILA ALAH"

3. how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

4. why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now

5. why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?


This is just in your logical reasoining about MO father ABDULAHI (servant of God/god)

@noetic,

I can't descend so low to your understanding before I could answer your question. Knowledgible people should have gooten it better. Did I belong to prophet Muhammad generation or the same community to the extent of asking me If I would give my 9 years old daughter to him for marraige? of course, YES, I would married my daughter 9 to him if I was of the same generation with him. Now, what is your problem with it.

Now answer my questions.

noetic:

Can u give ur 6 year old daughter to court mr mohammed? YES or NO

can u marry off ur 9 year old daughter to mr mohammed? YES or NO

can u leave ur 9 year old daughter in the same room with mr mohammed? YES or NO

did mohammed not have sex with a 9 year old girl? YES OR NO

did bin laden not kill in the name of the blood thirsty allah?

who was the allah that mohammed`s father was worhipping?

can u marry off ur 9 year old daughter to mr mohammed? YES OR NO

Where in the verses u stated did Moses sleep with a 3 year old like u claimed?

where in the bible or koran was it recorded that mary was 12 years old when she had Jesus?

since ur koran claimed He did not die or was not crucified, how could He have called allah on the cross?

The allah that mohammed`s father worshipped had a wife called allat and three daughters.
who was this allah? and whats its connection to the allah of mohammed?

All your questions about prophet muhammad marraige with Aisha have been answerred.

Just provide response to my questions

@ noetic,

maybe I should put it straight. I thought if I dont explain, you will ask for ref:

1. what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

2. Anlyse the words "LAILAHI ILA ALAH"

3. how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

4. why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now

5. why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?

noetic:

how does this answer any of my questions?

Which of your questions? i think I am expecting better and detail response.

@noetic, I think I miss this in my previous post:

Fact 2. Mohammed`s father worshipped this "allah", before the birth of mohammed. This can be deduced from his name abdallah. which means servant of allah.

Haba Noetic! why so nice and unpleasant logic. If I started dragging this with you, believe me, you will have no answers to hundreds of questions I will begin to posts.

1. If my name is Ifalolu, to a lay man, these is a coin two words. "Ifa" is a trad diety and "olu" from oluwa is lord/god, known from traditional perspective. I asked you a question what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

2. if I may put you right, your problem is ABDULAH(servant/slave of god/God). Let me first post a question to you. Anyalyse this common statement or let a muslim scholar anaylse it for you. LAILAHI ILA ALAH.

3. The ffg explanation may give you an hint on the above two question. Every idolators, community prior to religious knowledge relating language semanticism has a way to describe thier gods. In Arab, idolatory gods is named is ilahi(just like god in english), Holy Kahaba was named bitul-lahi(House of gods) in pre Islamic Era. Just like yoruba would say ORISALA/OLU. Now consider your logical reasoning and this analysis, how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

Moreso, before Islam, traditional jewish bible has started been translated to Arabic bible then. e.g “man yaqdiru an yaghfira khataya illa ALLAH” (Luke 5:21 in Arabic). Moreso, to your own reasoning, why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now and why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?

@noetic,

keep going on and on about the morality of paedophilic act of mo. It is obvious and deducible that mohammed encouraged this despicable crime against womanhood and humanity. This has today become a norm in many islamic states

I believe if not for hatred, the most dullard person will understand my little explanation. Your posting here has just been an interesting one, and I will tell you why. Whereas, most of your accusation has been cleared.

,the links below can help u know better.

http://www.womenscampaigninternational.org/2009/04/saudi-arabia-to-review-underage-marriage-laws/
http://iperceive.net/underage-marriage-under-fire-in-saudi-arabia/
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/14/saudi.child.marriage/index.html
http://xrdarabia.org/2009/02/08/saudis-reconsider-underage-marriage/
http://www.freemuslims.org/news.php?id=4413
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/babylonbeyond/2009/04/saudi-arabia-court-refuses-to-nix-8yearolds-marriage-to-60yearold.html
http://www.petitiononline.com/farivar/petition.html
http://www.islam-watch.org/Eka/Marriage.htm
http://en.afrik.com/article14723.html
http://www.pambazuka.org/en/category/wgender/50527
http://www.monstersandcritics.com/news/asiapacific/news/article_1465336.php/Indonesian_cleric_arrested_over_underage_marriage_
http://www.thenational.ae/article/20090214/FOREIGN/70325186/1011/ART

See, i have read enough of them, just present your fact here with ref from bible, Quran and historical books. These are just mere propa
ganda.

Fine.
Can u give ur 6 year old daughter to court mr mohammed? YES or NO
can u marry off ur 9 year old daughter to mr mohammed?  YES or NO
can u leave ur 9 year old daughter in the same room with mr mohammed?  YES or NO

If u can answer yes to all these questions, then it is deducible that this are norms in islam, a weakling like me can never understand.
And I refuse to serve a god who encourages this despicable act.

At times, I read your posts, I just keep on laughing. You demonstrated an intelligence here compare to mine when I was a bit younger, and believe me, I ve been used to this kind of question. See, My grand father used to tell me different kinds of his historical life, both expriences and exposure but some times I used to disagree, though later I started believing him. In some of these, which I am going to relate here: he said, "my father walk from Nigeria to saudi arabia for pilgrimage", Now the question up to you, neotic. Can you walk from Lagos to saudi Arabia? YES/NO. If you can, then analyse how the journey could be, what are pros and cons. If you ve ever hear about such journey, what are the lesson from it compare to the present generation. When you answer that question, then I believe we need an issue to iron out concerning marrying a young girl as small as 9. The same way we are going to analyse different kinds of young girls from the present generations and the previous generations regionalwise. See, you dont need to see thinks like a so called cunning man who think on the day of judgement if God throw him into fire he would overfly out of it. "Won lolohun mbo, on weyin, eyin longba bo ni?"

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NOTE: The pedophilia in the bible was quite different, because girls were raped at 3-years of age by Moses and his men. What a lie against God's prophet.
where in the bible was this recorded?

I am not here to start analysing such dirty stories. You better not base your belief on proxy pastors, read it yourself or you manufacture your own bible: Numbers 31:7,17-18;Numbers 31:35-40 (Talmud specifically stated three years old)

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Now if I may asked you a question, how old was Jesus mother when she conceived Jesus?
I cant find that in my bible, so u tell me.

I know you can't find it, however, you're seriously concern about Aisha's age of the then generation to the present situation. If someone tell you Mary was between 12 and 14 then. Will you give your 12 years old daughter to Joseph of 90 to marry now?

Fact 1. Before Mohammed came, arabians were worshipping 360 idols in kabal, one for each day and "allah" was one of them.

Then, jesus could have been calling the same Allah has Eloi, Eloi. I think I ask you question on this which you forget to answer?

Fact 2. Mohammed`s father worshipped this "allah", before the birth of mohammed. This can be deduced from his name abdallah. which means servant of allah.

Haba Noetic! why so nice and unpleasant logic. If I started dragging this with you, believe me, you will have no answers to hundreds of questions I will begin to posts.

1. If my name is Ifalolu, to a lay man, these is a coin two words. "Ifa" is a trad diety and "olu" from oluwa is lord/god, known from traditional perspective. I asked you a question what is the cognates relation between olu/oluwa(yoruba), god, lord and God semantically.

2. if I may put you right, your problem is ABDULAH(servant/slave of god/God). Let me first post a question to you. Anyalyse this common statement or let a muslim scholar anaylse it for you. LAILAHI ILA ALAH.

3. The ffg explanation may give you an hint on the above two question. Every idolators, community prior to religious knowledge relating language semanticism has a way to describe thier gods. In Arab, idolatory gods is named is ilahi(just like god in english), Holy Kahaba was named bitul-lahi(House of gods) in pre Islamic Era. Just like yoruba would say ORISALA/OLU. Now consider your logical reasoning and this analysis, how would you differentiate god from God if not written down in english.

Moreso, before Islam, traditional jewish bible has started been translated to Arabic bible then. e.g “man yaqdiru an yaghfira khataya illa ALLAH” (Luke 5:21 in Arabic). Moreso, to your own reasoning, why there is no other translation for ELOI/ELOHIM from the bible original language up till now and why this word ALLAH in Arabic bible?

Fact 3. allah is the coining of two words meaning "al" and "llah" meaning "the" "god". I will deduce from this that whoever coined the name "allah" was referring to one of the 360 gods in existence then. My deduction is buttressed by history.

I think you understand Arabic more than the speakers. You can now start analysing the language you dont have a basic knowldge about it in both syntax and semantic.

Fact 4.  Contrary to jejune postulations by blabs and co, no prophet in the old testament called Jehovah God "allah" (this includes Abraham, Moses, Isaiah et all), neither did the new testament christians ever refer to GOD as "allah"

Just read through the thread

Fact 5. Since there is no known correlation (amongst the prophets) between the biblical Jehovah God and "allah", it is safe to state that christians and muslims do not worship the same "God"

Hence, to your safely conclussion, never going to be equal coz three in one is different from one in one. Then, why your probs?

Fact 6. The Ka`ba was a house devoted for the worship of the sun, the moon and the planets in the pre-mohammed era. You know what it is being used for now, right?

Not only moon and sun, just say many idols, the house built by Abraham. What is being used for right now is very glaring, this is just a kidding question.

Fact 7. The feminine form of "allah" is called "allat" . Any explanation for this?

Like Sango and Oya. Site your ref, the hadith, Quran and historical books.

Fact 8. Mohammed introduced no new god to arabians. He only ascended the status of "allah" from a minor god (in comparison with the moon and the sun) to the main god in arabia.

Why then, they against him?

Fact 9. Who/what is Sabean and Mineam? Pre-mohammed "allah" had 3 daughters who were worshipped along with him. They are al`-Uzzah (power), al-Lat (the goddess), and Manah (fate) why are they now not acknowledged in present day islam?

Your question here seem filmsy.

Fact 10. Islam by the deeds and inactions of mohammed was conceived in idolatry, as there is no connection between allah and Jehovah God. That explains certain traditions and convictions of islam.

The statement is from you, neither from Jesus nor from Moses. 

"allah" is not and cannot be the God of the bible, allah had three daughters, the God of the bible had ONE begotten Son called JESUS.

They are not  and cannot be the same.

Your god has begotten son like you and me! that is in christianity. In Islam, Quran says Allah has no beggotten son neither was he beggeth. So why your conclusion? why you want to teach me my faith?

what does inferiority complex mean?
what are facts?

The facts are here, however, you can't see it. I told you this earlier, untill you cure your ailment.

u are just a deluded goon and a bloody slave of "allah".

Like that of your bloody great grandfathers sold to America for rice plantation.

did mohammed not have sex with a 9 year old girl? YES OR NO
did bin laden not kill in the name of the blood thirsty allah?
who was the allah that mohammed`s father was worhipping?
can u marry off ur 9 year old daughter to mr mohammed? YES OR NO
can u leave ur 9 year old daughter in the same room with mr mohammed? YES OR NO

Just answer my question, then we discuss further.

all u have been doing is to rant, unless and until u answer my questions objectively, i will only continue to see a retarded goon, who serves the antediluvian idol called allah.

See, do you have worst names ever ascribe to us? The GOONS are here.  What  of you?

@noetic,

considering that he did it in the name of allah, allah must have been an idiot, and a very inhuman thing.

I said it earlier, you need to purify yourself first, expurgate your statements before posting. If God's will, He would have make us all one faith. There we came today, seen believers and unbelievers lie on major three boundaries, Christians, Muslims and Jews.
I claim I serve unique one God, Allah who created Adam, Moses, Jesus and Mohammad. The same Name Jesus called when he was about to be killed, Elohi. The same Name you are abusing here on nairaland. However, what if you are found to be on the wrong side on the day of judgment? All these your absurd will not help you rather put you in an eternal sufferings.

@noetic,

ok. I have been corrected, Aisha was 9.

This was not started then, it has been an existing traditions, even during the Biblical age before Islam to married off at young ages when they either had their first periods, or their breasts start showing off.  In other words, when they turn into "women", then they get married off.  It was quite different for men on the other hand, because physical power and the ability of living an independent life had always been and will always be a mandatory requirement for men to have in life.  So men waited much longer than women in terms of getting married.  The guy had to develop both his body and mind before he was ready for marriage.

so blabs would u give ur 9 year old daughter to mr mohammed to have sex with ?   Grin Grin Grin

The culture back then only affected some countries and is quite different from what you live in today.

is sex with a 9 year old not paedophilic?
[s]mohammed was definitely a slowpoke, inhumane and a sex pervert[/s].

NOTE: The pedophilia in the bible was quite different, because girls were raped at 3-years of age by Moses and his men. What a lie against God's prophet.

Personally, I will not argue with you concerning Aisha's age being 9 because there exist a ref for it. However, All Muslim scholars agree  that Prophet Muhammad and Aisha were engaged for 2 years before marriage.  However, some say that she was 7 when she got engaged, and 9 when she got married.  Others say that she was 9 when she got engaged and 11 when she got married. Whereas, some says get married at 14. However, Aisha has been engaged with one non believer before that of prophet Muhammad. It was broken coz the person was a non believer. The question is how old was she then?

In the ff narration:
Narrated Aisha:  "The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Alright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.  ( Sahih Bukhari, Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234)"

Notice here that Aisha's mother and the Muslim women back then were ok with her marriage.  It was part of the Arab custom and still is in many of the Muslim and non-Muslim countries today for girls to marry at a very young age.  When a girl's body starts showing up, then she would be ready for marriage.

It is very obvious in many pedophiles that they've carried out minor or major acts of pedophile behaviour in the past and this has led to habit as well as the obsessive-compulsive nature of the act towards children.

Muhammad has no history of pedophile activity whatsoever. Also, as I pointed out, all of Muhammad's other wives were adult, and there is no evidence of him being obsessed with children.

what explanation do u have for this despicable act?
considering that he did it in the name of allah, allah must have been an idiot, and a very inhuman thing.

A despicable act? For marrying a girl that was offered to him by her parents and was accepted by all of the people back then including the enemies of Islam, the pagans. If now, this is unacceptable to you. Then, shows us a proof it wasn't unacceptable then?

Now if I may asked you a question, how old was Jesus mother when she conceived Jesus?

@ noetic,

I am only bothering to reply cos u displayed positive discretion in answering, but shielded away from the main issues I raised.

There is no need to bother, even if I have answerred differently might not changed your perception to Islam. And your response might not be different.

Let me state here, that I have no problem with islam, neither do I consider myself an enemy of islam.

Rather say you have problem with muslims.

What I do however have a problem with is the many evil doctrines and inactions of islam in the name of allah. and the many deplorable and inhuman islamic inactions in the name of sharia in the 21st century, some of which reflects the questions i have been asking.

There is no evil doctrines in Islam whatsoever, just understand it very well. Start from reading Quran yourself. Sharia is an Islamic law for Muslims being used in an Islamic state. If you talk of Nigeria sharia, you might not get it proper. Cos, for example, proper implementation of Sharia require stable economy. If someone steal, it wouldn't be because of out of hunger, no jobs and the government is doing nothing to this, otherwise people with long spoon are only serving their belly. My explanation might not satisfied you enough, even if I try with pages. You only need to read it yourself, prbably with open mind.

why must u kill in the name of allah? why must u kill at all outside human law in the 21st century? ur response does not reflect reality.

I think I have clear this accusation. You musn't kill except the person is a criminal and is the highest penalty accorded. For example, a hardened killer, just like Drug pushers tracked several times realy shows it won't changed. Moreso, even from human law, there is killings, human law is even worst, because there is no mistakes recognition. Death sentence was passed Pastor king, I think you are aware of that. So, there is law everywhere, even in christianity.

u didnt tell me why mohammed killed 700 jews in year 600?

My man, I wish you present your facts very well,. I have the detailed, just a bit busy.

why do attempt to use denial as a way of answering questions? I understand that it is acceptable in ur religion allows u to tell lies to defend allah.
It will however not stand here, cos I dont believe in allah.

I am not advocating for Allah for you to believe in Him. He knows your heart, He guides whoever He wishes.

did mohammed not marry his adopted son`s wife? so y d denial?

which one?

does sharia not advocate amputation of people for alleged crimes? is the zamfara example not a living testimonial?
is the numerous begeading of nigerians and others in saudi arabia and other islamic nations not an example?

Yes, amputation is right according to sharia, but does the government provides all necesssary means to block being a criminal. Will you steal if you have your three sq meals daily, you have a shelter, free to amenities and infrastructures. If all these were provided, then why stealing? Why pushing drugs? why killing in the name of money, why human rituals for getting wealthy? Even, samfara that you are even talking about, when Sharia was first implemented, in order to minimzed adultry and corruption, I witness prostitutes given money to start trading, intended bachelor getting married given cash and several things. It was just a faces of sharia.
Now, do you know how many allocation to your local govt alone in the name of "demo crazy", what have we gotten, all has been like ironical rain which devil does not allow to reach the ground. I believe if sharia is properly analyse for you, it will be your choice.

u offered no meaningful explanation as to why people are killed after converting from islam, or should I skip that?

when did mohammed have sex with his 6 year old wife?  who was the "allah" mohammeds father was worshipping?

Like i said, if at all u want to reply, pls do so objectively and evade the denial or lies tactics. an honest analysis on ur part can help redeem allah`s battered image.

Regarding killing a convertee, I think I have responded well. What you only need now is to start presenting some cases. The issue of Aisha, the prophet wife has been anaylse several times in this forum, just search through the forum and grap any response that suit your intention.

You don't need to worry about redeeming Allah's name yourself, leave it to Allah alone. Concern about redeeming yourself before your demise. Allah has been existing before you and when you die people will still been calling His name.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/06/25/world/main626196.shtml
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-818746.html
http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-30343920071105
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1926178/posts
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/019661.php
http://news.webindia123.com/news/ar_showdetails.asp?id=711060538&cat=&n_date=20071106
http://muslimstoday./2007/11/05/saudi-arabia-amputates-thiefs-hand/
http://www.1worldcommunication.org/shariavictims.htm

Many of these have been read before, its all just noises about Islam. Whereever, sharia is being used properly will still be the most peacefull environment ever. You just only need to clear off your hatred towards Islam. Read Quran and Hadiths you find better answers to your questions if your intention is formal.

@davidylan,

But NOT ONE SINGLE historical reference to this "allah" that every knew "since the time of Adam"? The amorites, greeks, Jews, Philistines, Romans ALL knew the Jehovah God of Adam but NONE knew or recorded anything about this demon called allah? What a disgraceful shame.

Jehovah was not only God's name from the bible. Kindly remind me further.

they certainly werent calling him allah, that much is known from secular history books . . . as allah was regarded then as just one of 360 idols in the kaaba.

Which name do they refer to God?

Have you read any historical books urself you[b] little demonic imp[/b]? Do you comprehend the truth? Why does allah have ALL jewish prophets and ALL biblical characters as prophets besides Mohammad?

Thanks, the bigger one. Allah copied bible and renamed it Quran?

@ noetic

u are a misinformed animal .

The informed animal! You need to retraced your path.

no biblical prophet ever called Jehovah God "allah". allah does not mean Jehovah God

Now defend the cognate relationship between Eloi/Elohim and Allah. Maybe we see amongst the prophetic bible call God Allah.

noetic:

[s]allah is an idol mohammed father worshiped. ur allah is an idol with 3 daughters worshipped by arabians, before mohammed the paedophile was born.
do ur research, just google origin of allah or his history.[/s]

Present your refrence historical book or cite the web add.

u deluded goat of the blood thirsty allah, i ask u in ur revealed foolishness:

Now confirming your first accusation. Fools will not know where they belongs initially. "Atanpako ni juwe okankan ile funwon". Lets move ahead.

if mohammed`s father is abdallah, who was the allah he was serving?

Simply confirmed by Jesus. Eloi, Eloi, Eloi, lema sabaktani".

davidylan:

I hope this lying fraud is not hoping to go ferret in the bible for the name of God again eh? I'm sure he has some authentic islamic references to show us since allah was allegedly existing from Adam . . . surely this "allah" must have had some prophet who mentioned something about him other than the bible no?

Just why are ALL their historical figures besides mohammad ALL biblical characters and Jewish figures?

Brother, stop revolving on a circle. You've not provided an answer to the question at hand. From your many claim, you only concern why the muslims have got to steal the bible prophets, This is a parochial thought, which makes me laugh most of the times. Read many historical books from secular view, maybe this time around, you may comprehend the truth. Now added to your understanding. Christians were existing amongst arab before Muhammad, which name do they call God almighty. You need to provide answers to all this, then we can move ahead.

See babs, when people read manuscripts polished and well presented as if it is true. They forget the origin. I think human has origin. If someone has been convinced that human being are not accidental discharged of an atom. Then, he should believe he is a descendant of Adam. Now, Adam called Almighty God(English) in a particular name, what is this name? If one can proof such God is not named Allah, then he could be traced to something physical, probably an Idol.

Now, to a lower generations, what is name of God according to Abraham, Moses and Jesus. I think all of them came before Muhammad.

Can someone dare the proof, then can clear the differences of which God Muslims, Christians or Jew is serving.

@Noetic

who do u think u are fooling?

You dont need to be too worry about people fooling you, the one you are doing to yourself is enough. Just remove the color glasses in order to see things in thier natural color.

those are not the most asked questions about islam.
This is an attempt to unleash an islamic propaganda machine.

This same response had been dine and wine with in the past, including the most difficult questions that prophets left unanswered or answered because of thier hardened mind, including Jesus and Mohammad. Human being never get satisfied untill death come arround. Do you know thier response? "You are here with tricks and magics; simply propagandist".

The response may not solely useful to you, but I believe it would  still be read many people in the years to come, where it would make difference in what they here and what is written down in the Quran and Hadiths.

These are the most asked questions about islam, if u can "intelligently" answer this questions, then maybe my view on islam can change.
until then . . .    Huh Huh Huh

Your tone has clearly shown that if I unintelligently answerred your questions, you will never get satisfied. So, why do you think my response will be useful? However, with little or nothing, Intelligently, I will try.

1.   why are muslims all over the world blood thirsty and would readily kill in the name of anything?

    First, maybe because you angry at muslims, you coludnt structure your question properly. I think I could help you on this.
    The word, "blood thirsty" has no place in Islam.
   
    In Islam, you dont kill in the name of anything, you kill in the name of Allah.
    These can be in many faces, in some cases, it apply to the law of equality in punishment against one another. For example whoever killed wrongly should be killed. This is not in all cases as the killer may be forgiven instead.

    Secondly, you can kill during the war, this can be done in severals ways and which ever ways it come. Muslims should ensure they follow the proper guidance as stated by the prophet. There are a lot of misconception on this which have been highlighted and expanciated in this forum.  Head or tail, it is left for those who wanted to follow the right guidance.

 

2.    What explanation do u have for mohammed`s paedophilic nature?

    If you mean prophet Muhammad, this is very untrue. I need details. Thanks

3.    why did mohammed kill 700 jews in year 600?

   
    I think I have a story details very related to your questions. Moreover, there are several posts on this forum related to it as well. If your goes straight, you would have said the Conquere of Jerusalem by Muslims. See, Neotic, you will never get convinced about this political historical events bettween the three faiths (Jew, Christians and Muslims), if you only belong to one side. I my detail response for you give your detail, then I will know where you belong. Maybe we continue from there.

4.     why did mohammed snatch his adopted son`s wife? isnt that incest?

  Haba, snatch! NO.

5.   why are muslims inclined towards "holy" killing against defenceless women and children?

    No such nature in Islam, and never found a verse cited such in the Quran or Hadith. Islam preaches against, even during war, that you shouldn't kill unjustly and not children and women who have not raise sword against you.

6.   what is the rationality in amputating a helpless boy, who stole because of poverty, in the name of sharia?

  Where and when?

7.   why is terrorism an islamic agenda?

   
    NO, terrorism is not an Islamic Agenda. Today, many things are wrongfully attached to Islam and muslims all over the world, that is why you see in my previous post as my questions are structured the way it is. Not only terror, what about the ff: extremists, fundamentalists, even in my local language "Esin o ko ku" and so on. Meanwhile, this is a complex situation for the present and the next generations to comprehend. Nevertheless, for whoever Allah guides, nobody can mislead such. As muslims who are ready to learn and clear out this complexity, one need 1.  A very detail knowledge about Islam, both Quran and Hadiths 2. Wisdom and pray for Allah's guidance always.

8.   whats the rationale in killing people who choose to convert to other religions after seeing the numerous and despicable evil of islam?

First, there is no evil in Islam. I have tasted and tested it in many faces. Now, you may be right, it is possible for one to be killed if he/she left a particular faith. This has a lot of complexities as well. Killing is not the utmost concern of any muslim community. In many cases leaving such a person and pray for him is better and more preferable in the sight of Allah than for him being dead as unbliever. This is not only applicable to Islam alone. However, in short, killing a convertee is strictly exceptional which should be handle carefully by any muslim community. Meanwhile, I have people in among my family members and friends that converted to christians, I have never fought them coz they converted not to talk of killing them. Very closely, my junior brother living and feeding under me. Moreover, in many community, killing is not even applicable.  e.g where your place and time of worship has not been affected.

9.   whats ur explanation for mohammed marrying a 6 year old girl? would u let him marry and sexually abuse ur 6 year old girl?

This has been trashed several times on this forum. Just browse through the forum, there several details response. I will cite it if I have time to check.

10.   why do u presently wish u could see me now and stab me? why is violence in ur blood?

   I never stated that. Even, I wish to see you probably you would weoclome me. Neither babs will never thought so.

11.    why is there no tolerance in any islamic state? why is there no democracy in any islamic state?

If I may help you, clearly explain your tolerance level and your democaracy the way you understand it, maybe from bible, then we discuss further.

12.   why do u have to kill for allah? why is allah such a powerless, blood thirsty, demonic and consciously debilitating object called an idol?

I don't blame you. You can never know the content of the case untill it is opened to you. Just continue calling it any name. He has the key and the owner of your heart. You can never comprehend His power. The rest clause have been answerred in the previuos questions.

13.    why do u abuse ur powers on nairaland, by banning and deleting anti-islamic posts, yet promote anti-xtian posts?

I think you just need to redirect your question to moderator

14.  whats the rationale behind jihad? fighting and killing defenceless people when unprovoked?

Jihad is an arabic word, meaning struggle, it has level, our discussion here is a form of jihad, the highest level is killing the unblievers who are ready to kill you, commonly term HOLY WAR. It has mode and method as stated by Quran and Hadith. Whoever does JIHAD without the correct guidance as stated in the Quran and Hadith has no reward.

15.   why does allah want u to convert the world to islam by war? if he was that powerful, why didnt he just touch people`s heart when prayed for?

There is no such in Islam. Allah ordered to  call to Islam with knowledge and wisdom.

"Invite to the Way of your Lord (i.e. Islam) with wisdom (i.e. with the Divine Revelation and the Qur'an) and fair preaching, and argue with them in a way that is better. Truly, your Lord knows best who has gone astray from His Path, and He is the Best Aware of those who are guided."

16.   why is allah keeping several generations of slaves? why is he not a father, but an advocate of modern slavery?

Generations to generations, many things are understood differently. That is they way you understand slaves, I think you will share the same view with my great grand fathers because my use to tell me that his when his own father and friends were young and they hear of slave, they ran away, thinking Amrican invaders are coming. Even some bible verses will not share your thinking. Slave in Islam means person you obey someone(ALLAH), you dont do things the way you like, he gave you manual to leave your life. For you to be accepted, you have to follow the manual strictly.

He is not a father because human being forget easily, nowadays, literal heavenly father has been deningly transformed GOD almighty to share part of human attribute.

17.    why is the world such a terrible place because of the violence of islam?

The world will continue to be a terrible place because of your bad attitude, corruption, injustice and selfishness. Moreover, God will not change our condition until you and I change our bad attitude starting from this forum.

Undoubtedly, there are many complexity political wars going on around the globe involving Muslims and Islamic state. Admittedly, Muslims may be wrong in some circumstances. However, Islam does not preach their wrong doings. Islam preaches peace and unity. There can't peace without justice. We know our differences, we can't have the same religions, share the same view and opinion. Then, why fighting?
To a cursory observer, there is more to politically inclined wars than religion. There are lot on this, this is an assignment I have given myself  and starting from home, Nigeria. Truly the fighting's are not totally religious!

Thanks.

1. "Why do women cover the way they do. I mean doesn't it get a bit hot under there? And why do they have to wear those dowdy colours – it must make mornings so boring for them?"

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Islam does not deny sexual attraction but it insists this should remain a precious and personal matter between husbands and wives. Sexual attraction is not the aim in public life and the public space can do without sexual tensions. Islam therefore teaches that both men and women should dress modestly (hijab in Arabic). Men should cover from the navel to the knee and women cover their bodies so that their figure is not revealing and in most cases this includes the hair as well (no more bad hair days!).

The extent of covering is different for men and women because men and women think and behave slightly differently. We can debate how much of a society’s culture and attitudes are nurtured and how much are truly natural, i.e. hard-wired into our genes. It is a scientific fact however that men’s and women’s brains do work differently.

That’s why, for example, young schoolgirls on average do better than boys, boys and girls, in general, like different toys and in terms of attraction, men generally respond more to visual stimuli and generally women, to emotional stimuli. It is no fluke that top shelves are lined with men’s mags and not women’s. Market forces don’t lie. So we see that in most cultures men and women dress differently and women’s clothing is more covering – even on the beach where there is not much dressing going on at all, this is still true!

Many Muslim women find comfort in the hijab because they feel that things have got out of hand nowadays. Women are pressured into feeling they have to look ‘glamorous’ i.e. attractive, to be noticed in a man’s world. Why are women cultured into tolerating a half-hour ritual of make-up every morning that men don’t have to bother with? There is a constant pressure to dress fashionably, forcing women to forever scout the high streets buying the latest styles, far beyond genuine need.


Muslim women are not commanded to be frumpy! There are no specific restrictions about the colour of dress but some choose to wear plainer colours out of modesty. However this does not stop them from dressing elegantly. A few women choose to cover their faces. However odd that might seem to many people, if they really want to, then that should be their right and obviously passports are an exception. After all, to a lot of people certain hairstyles and facial piercing can look odd too, but we wouldn’t want it banned! As for it getting to hot, in the British climate that is quite unlikely!

It is important to understand that in Britain hijab is definitely not a sign of male dominance. Muslim women are donning the hijab out of choice, often despite protestation from their fathers or husbands. They see it as a spiritual act, a reflection of their faith and a means of attaining closeness to God. Hijab also gives them confidence. They feel people are no longer judging them by their figures but are now freed to respect them for their minds rather than for their bodies.

It is sad that hijab is turned into a political game. Muslim women are not saying, “I want to convert you or force you to wear one.” All they’re doing is what they feel their religion is asking from them - hijab is a very brave and personal decision that a woman makes. We should support them for their courage, not make life harder for them.


2. Why are Muslim girls and boys forced into marriage?

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From an Islamic point of view, boys and girls should never be forced into marriage. Islam gave women and men the right to reject a marriage proposal free from pressure. In fact, in Islamic marriage law, the girl’s consent is a condition puppets.jpgfor the marriage contract to be legal - otherwise the contract is void. It is reported that a young woman came to the Prophet Muhammad and complained that her father had forced her to marry a man without her agreement. The Prophet annulled her marriage. On a different occasion, a guardian who had adopted an orphan girl came to the Prophet, and said that he received two offers for her hand in marriage, one from a rich man and one from a poor man. He added that he likes the rich man, but that the girl likes the poor man. The Prophet answered, “For those in love we don't see anything better than marriage”.

From 1400 years ago, Islam has given men and women the right to divorce if the marriage really doesn’t work out. Women can file for divorce just on the grounds that they don’t love their husbands.


3. Why don't Muslims go to pubs much?

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Cultures across the world have different attitudes to alcohol. It’s hard to deny that a pint or two will make people more cheerful and sociable. The Qur’an mentions that there is some good in alcohol, but on balance the harm outweighs the benefit – and we know that alcohol is behind so many of the crimes, accidents, domestic abuse and health problems in society.

So in the Qur’an Muslims are asked to avoid alcohol altogether. Many Muslims believe this rule extends to going to places where drink is widely consumed e.g. pubs and bars.

But it would be wrong to think that only Muslims avoid pubs. Many religious people of other faiths also avoid them. Even generally, a lot of people are very selective about which pubs they go to, and many other simply don’t like pubs altogether.


4. How can Muslims possibly manage to pray five times a day? Don’t they get tired of it?

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The daily prayers form one of the five pillars of Islamic worship. So praying is an essential part of a Muslim’s life. Muslims do not see praying as a chore. On the contrary, they see it as a way of keeping up their relationship with God. Many Muslims feel refreshed and recharged after a prayer.

The five daily prayers also help to enhance a Muslim’s time-management, as they can organise their day around the time between prayers. Islam lays emphasis on the punctuality in offering prayers so that a regularity and rhythm is established. The prayers themselves take only about five minutes.

Muslims do not see the commandments as unreasonable. When ill, it is up to the person to consider how much they can manage. On journeys they can shorten their prayers and group some of them together to save time. However, they should still be performed, to keep in mind the prayer’s importance in the life of a Muslim.


5. Why are Muslims always so radical?

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In four words: Muslims are not radical! In fact, because of the simple, pure life they are asked to lead, ordinary Muslims can, if anything, appear more plain than radical!!

Terms such as ‘fundamentalist’ and ‘Islamist’ are not Islamic terms, but have been created by the media and western ‘experts’ to pigeonhole people that they don’t understand. There may be a few zealous young men who do extreme actions in the name of Islam, but as far as the majority of Muslims are concerned, they are going against Islamic teachings.

Muslims are noted for the passion with which they hold to their faith and in the sort of age that we live, this in itself can appear ‘radically’ different. But when people learn that Islam is a practical and tolerant religion, they are reassured that a Muslim’s becoming ‘religious’ does not make him or her a threat.

If the word ‘radical’ is taken to mean ‘wanting change’ then indeed Muslims do want change – a change for the better. Muslims get irritated when they see injustice and deprivation, because Islam teaches people to strive for justice and social improvement - but the overwhelming majority of Muslims know that the way to achieve this is through charity and development, not violence.


6. Why does Islam ask all its followers to fight jihad? Surely that can’t do much good for community relations?

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The noble concept of Jihad is horribly misunderstood. The word actually means ‘struggle’ – NOT Holy War!!

Islam asks its followers to first engage in their own internal, spiritual jihad. So jihad is mainly to do with fighting vigorously against one’s weaknesses and lower instincts, e.g. greed, laziness and impatience. Through this kind of jihad, the Muslim should become even more suited to serving society. Rather than worsening community relations, this should enhance them.

However, there is a “lesser” type of jihad, which involves the struggle for justice and freedom. In extreme cases where there is no peaceful alternative, this might even require war, like the idea of a ‘Just War’ in Christianity. Even then, Islam demands very strict ‘rules of engagement’: for example, not harming women, children, non-combatants, places of religious worship, e.g. temples and churches, property and even trees and wildlife. So clearly terrorism cannot be called jihad.

It is a common myth that Islam was spread by the sword. Yet the Holy Quran states clearly "Let there be no compulsion in religion". Faith must come though inner conviction and free choice, not from outside force. Islam spread through the spirituality and inspirational example that early Muslims displayed.


7. Why aren't girls allowed out in the evenings? It must be so boring cooped up in the kitchen?

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In society generally, there are some parents who are very relaxed and think of their children as independent adults from the age of 12 or younger: free to go out and act as they please and ready to take responsibility for their actions. Yet some parents are more inclined to feel that their teenage children are still vulnerable to peer pressure, and so are concerned and careful about the friends they keep, in case they get caught up in the wrong crowd and end up making serious mistakes that jeopardise their whole future.

The Muslims of Britain come from all cultural backgrounds and as with any community, you will find a similar variation in the way parents approach their teenage children. Some parents will have made a robust effort to get their children interested in wholesome extra-curricular activities such as sports, etc.

Like many parents these days, religious Muslim parents are also likely to be anxious about the sort of company and ways their teenage kids spend their spare time, as these precious years not only mark a transition into adulthood but are also critical in shaping the prospects of young persons entire future life. Parents are quite likely therefore to be careful about the way their children, whether girls or boys, spend those precious hours of their spare time. Islam does not allow relationships before marriage, and as hormones are on high charge around that age, religious children and their parents will be careful to avoid situations that could lead to serious relationships developing.
horsey.jpgAlthough there is a popular tendency these days to imagine that a young person has to experience a number of relationships before they mature enough to recognise the 'right one', there are plenty of people that never find the 'right one' and plenty more that decide that their 'first one' was the 'right one'. Islam therefore teaches that the success of a relationship is to be found in the faithfulness and love that is poured into that relationship and that is why countless semi or even totally arranged marriages still manage to hold together with the glue of mutual love and respect.

But does this mean that kids can’t have fun? Of course not! A lot of Muslim teenagers like teenagers of all backgrounds find fun in a whole host of decent, wholesome pursuits. As for the kitchen, well if Muslims were to follow the example of Prophet Muhammad’s household, it's the boys who would be in the kitchen!


8. What’s the big deal with Halal food – surely a tandoori chicken is still a tandoori chicken whether you call it Halal, organic or kosher? And isn’t the halal method cruel?


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Halal is an Arabic word which means permitted or lawful. Meat can only be called Halal when it has been prepared according to the strict ethical requirements of kindness that Islam demands. The Islamic method of slaughter is called zabh.

It is never comfortable to think of our steaks and burgers as once being cute animals grazing blissfully in green fields. It is even more uncomfortable to think of the trauma these poor animals might experience at the time of slaughter.

Islam puts a strong emphasis on kindness to animals. The Prophet Muhammad is reported to have said, "All creatures are God's dependants, and the most beloved to God, among men, is he who does good to God's dependants".

So even before zabh, according to the directions of Prophet Muhammad, the animal has to be treated kindly, e.g. well fed, watered and comforted so it does not feel panic. The animal must not be allowed to see either the knife or any other slaughtered animals. The blade has to be sharpened so that with a swift stroke, before the animal realises any pain, blood has drained from its brain and it has lost consciousness.

Prayers are recited during this process and this shows respect to the animal, reminding us that its life was taken only because of need, not for fun, and that God watches us and we will have to account for any distress we might have caused the animal.

Scientific studies (using EEG recorders) have confirmed that there is less distress to animals with the zabh method than conventional factory techniques where there is a recognised failure rate. So whilst ‘organic’ suggests the animal had a non-traumatic life, ‘halal’ should confirm that it had a non-traumatic death.

9. Why don’t Muslims just call themselves Pakistanis, like Hindus usually call themselves Indian, etc.?

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We all have multiple identities that describe the different ways that we each see ourselves – our religion, our ethnicity, our nationality, and our culture. For many Muslims, their ethnic identity is not as important as their religious identity; so many prefer to call themselves Muslims or British Muslims.

Islam is a universal religion, separate from national identities and cultures. It was revealed for the whole of humankind. God states in the Quran, "Truly, this is no less than a message to (all) the worlds”. So even in Birmingham there are Muslims who migrated not only from Pakistan, but many other parts of the world, e.g. Bangladesh, Yemen, Iraq, Bosnia, Somalia, etc.


10. Why don’t Muslims openly condemn terrorism and suicide bombing, if they really don’t agree with it?

Of course Muslims have condemned such actions loudly and clearly. But if it is condemned in a mosque, who will know about it? Even if we stand on street corners and shout that we are just as appalled by terrorism, our message will only get out to a handful of passers by (who might think all sorts of other things about us instead!)

But how do we broadcast our opinions to the masses? We need the help of the mass media: newspapers and television. The good Muslim citizen is plain boring and will not grab headlines or turn heads. Ratings and sales are driven by emotions such as fear, outrage and hatred.

So it is difficult to hear the voices of the moderate majority, but certain sections of the media will give the oxygen of publicity to controversial extremists.

It is important therefore to sometimes get behind the headlines and read what the large organizations that represent Muslim are saying. For example, regarding terrorist activity, the Muslim Council of Britain says, “We utterly condemn these indiscriminate terrorist attacks against innocent lives. The perpetrators of these atrocities, regardless of their religious, ideological or political beliefs, stand outside the pale of civilised values.”

The words of the Qur’an (5:32) also state that the killing of a single innocent man should be looked on like the killing of the whole of mankind.


11. If Muslims and Christians share the same God, why can’t they tolerate one another and learn to live together?

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Muslims and Christians have even more in common than God: they also share a respect for the prophets of the Bible (e.g. Abraham, Noah, Joseph, and particularly Jesus) as well as a respect for the Bible itself.

allkinds.jpgIt is often said that people are the weakest link in the world’s religions because they often fail to live up to their own teachings. Muslims are taught that all humankind is one brotherhood and sisterhood, having been created from a single pair of a male and female, and divided into nations and tribes, not that we may despise each other but so that we may know each other, celebrating our differences. All are equal and Muslims are taught that there is no difference between people in the sight of God, except in righteousness and nearness to God, which only God truly knows. In fact there are countless Islamic teachings talking about the need to respect people of other faiths.

Having said this, if we open the history books there are specific wars or specific occasions when relations between Muslims and Christians did break down. But what about the centuries of continuous peaceful neighbourly existence that the history books don’t talk about? E.g. Muslim and Christian Palestinians have lived side by side without a single war between them for well over a thousand years. In fact during the crusades, Christian Arabs met the same slaughter as their Muslim brethren. The same record of peace has held throughout Africa and Asia. Even in Europe, under the Ottoman Empire (which lasted 600 years) and in Islamic Spain (which lasted 800 years), Muslims and Christians also lived peacefully together. Why expect that in Birmingham in 2004, things should suddenly be different?


12. Why do Muslims pray with their face to the ground? Isn’t it a bit undignified?


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During prayers, Muslims prostrate to the ground to show their humility in front of God, and their submission to God’s will. All Muslims perform this act when praying, regardless of race, colour, gender, wealth, education and social status. This gives them the sense that to God, they are all equal, as He only looks to what is in the hearts.

Prostration is also a state during which a Muslim is closest to his Creator and they are taught that it is a special time to ask God for forgiveness and help: “So prostrate and come close (to God),” (Holy Qur’an).


13. Why do Muslims remove their shoes when entering the mosque?

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As a place of prayer, Muslims try to keep their mosques clean because the actions of prayer involve standing, sitting and prostrating on the floor.


14. Why live in the West when Islam disapproves of so many aspects of western life?

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For Muslims, Islam is not a religion of the East or the West and Muslims have for centuries lived as minorities in countries all over the world, including the West. In addition many people in the West have converted to Islam and so know no other home.

The phenomenon of twentieth century mass migration has meant that many more Muslims now live in the West than previously. Theslide.jpg reasons why those Muslims moved to the West are varied and complex, but an important factor is that many Muslims found that some basic Islamic values like individual freedoms, tolerance, human rights, and an accountability of government are more respected in the West than in the so-called Muslim countries.

So many Muslims will say that there is nowhere in the world that fits their ideal, but Britain is closer to it than many Muslim countries.

There are lots of people that aren’t 100% satisfied with things in society. But that doesn’t make them traitors and surely they can still be glad to be British? Wouldn’t it be absurd if when a bishop or an MP spoke out and demanded changes in the law, they were considered patriotic and yet if a Muslim asked for changes to be considered, people saw him as ungrateful and disloyal!?

Would anyone expect the citizens of a country to accept life as it is and stay quiet, even if there was much room for improvement? After all, why else do we have this great tradition of parliamentary politics, if not to voice our concerns about the things we see as wrong in society and government?


15. Would you be offended by a Santa in a shopping centre? If yes, why? If not, then why don’t you speak out when council’s ban them on your behalf?

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Although Muslims do not teach their children to believe in Santa Claus, there is no reason why they should be offended by any of the traditions in this country whether they are religious or not. Muslims would probably themselves prefer to join with other Christians in emphasising the spiritual teachings of Prophet Jesus at Christmas over the excessive materialism seen in present day society.

Why can’t councils celebrate with their citizens whenever the citizens have an occasion for happiness? This includes Christmas, Eid, Diwali etc. And though religious Christians may not like it, Santa Claus like many rituals before him, has now become part and parcel of the ‘magic of Christmas’.

No one wants a bland, cultureless council, which invents meaningless festivals but ignores the important religious ones that are dear to its citizens. This sounds like the oppressive ‘secular fundamentalism’ that is seen in other countries, where society harshly stamps out any public displays of religious or cultural identity. This is an unnatural attitude and does not help community relations.

As for speaking out: give us a voice, as this supplement has, and we will shout out against such nonsense! But if we aren’t given airtime to broadcast our feelings, you cannot reasonably claim that we don’t object.


16. Why have mosques when a prayer mat facing towards Mecca would suffice?

Ans
It is a feature of religions through the ages that they have always had places of worship. For many religions, the faith is more than a belief alone: they hold together communities and worship brings them together.

The Prophet Muhammad said that the whole of the Earth is a place of prayer, but Muslims are encouraged to pray in congregation, either as a family or with other people in the community.

This is because Islam encourages interaction and integration of families and neighbours into a community. Although we all need a little quiet time to ourselves every now and again, Islam does not encourage people to wander off into the wilderness abandoning their families and communities so the mosque is also a brief spiritual retreat.


17. Why can’t Muslims have normal names?


Ans
It is fashionable among Muslims, as it is in Britain generally, to choose a name based upon how it sounds. There is nothing wrong with four.jpgthis although Prophet Muhammed said that one of the rights of a child is that his/ her parents choose a good name for them, with a good meaning or they be named after notable people. So many Muslims choose names that are mentioned in the Qur’an, or are the names of the men and women who were dedicated disciples of the Prophet Muhammad, or the names of famous prophets, some of whom are also mentioned in the Bible, such as Ibrahim (Abraham), Yusuf (Joseph), Musa (Moses), Yahya (John), Adam and Issa (Jesus). Other common Muslim names include Ahmed and Mustafa, both of which refer to the Prophet Muhammad. A name beginning with “Abdul” simply means ‘servant of’ and is followed by one of God’s holy names.

The reason why these names may sound strange is because they are in Arabic and there often is no simple equivalent in English. However, many new English Muslims do choose to keep their old names, especially when they know that they have a good meaning. Others, however, wish to take on a new name, so that they feel a sense of Muslim identity. Another increasingly common option is to use names that sound the same and mean the same in many languages such as Sarah, a name used by Muslims, Jews and Christians alike.

Also, in Islam, a wife does not take on the surname of her husband, but keeps her family name and roots. This is to reinforce her independence as a person.

Stoning the devil in mecca is just a disposition to follow the tradition of prophet Ibrahim. This is not physical devil but only symbolizing rebuking of the devil. It is one of the major rites in Hajj.

@noetic

noetic:

so allah was a bloody idol worshipped long before mohammed was born. . . . . . .incredible

You dont need to be brainwashed! Allah is not an Idol. He is the Lord God who created heaven and heart and all things therein including you. Muhammad was just a prophet and a messenger just like Jesus and Moses. Moreso, you are free to claim anything, nobody is being force to believe, if one claim he has other god(s), then so be it.

Does anyone knows if BUK pre degree shortlist is out.

Salam Babs,

babs787:

Salam Ayinba1

Its nice to have you . Hope family is doing great and still waiting for Zayhal as well as littleb, Subzeero. Missed your companies.

In sha Allah, I will be back online very soon. Thanks a lot, may almighty Allah rewards you and other muslims brothers and sisters for thier valuable contributions on this forum. May He counts us amongst the inheritance of janat firdaws.

earTHMama:

All the while I've been sending felicitations to muslims on this site during sallah and all that, no single muslim was humble enough to open a happy christmas thread for christians. I dey vex for una.

Meanwhile, make una pray for una brothers here:  https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-214121.0.html     wey don kolo.

Sorry, your observation is very correct. See, a knowledgible and God fearing muslims doesn't celebrate ignorantly. It is a common saying that Gbogbo odun to ba bani laye lodun. However, this is not the case as a muslim, there are eyo, igunuko, sango, olosa oke and rest which are similar to what they celebrate on christmas day. It is never the true birth of Jesus.

@Jarus,

Thanks a lot for the great works. May almighty Allah continue to guide you and increase your knowledge.

Am considering having sex with him soon not for anything but for love even if I don’t end up marrying him because is so frustrating meeting our fellow Muslim that will still be demanding for premarital sex. And am 22yrs and still a virgin.

Try as much as possible to keep yourself and never cross that line. You may lose more than your thinking. Be sincere and prayerful. Learn 'Duha Istikhara' (prayer for guidance), the way it was taught by the prophet and make sure you do it often. Seek prayers from your parents and your love ones. Allah is always merciful to the sincere and steadfast people.

Cayon:

Hajj - "Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca that must be performed by every Muslim man and woman at least once in their lifetime. "

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My brother mentioned this to me this morning.  He said going to Mecca is something he dream about. I told him he should attend even if I have to help him. (geeze, must admit its a lot of money)

Anyone from this forum ever attend?  If not, why? And if a person never attend - is it "unMuslim" like?  (i doubt it but am just asking to make sure)

Peace

Hajj is one of the five compulsory pillars of Islam, which every muslim must have intention of attending if Allah wills. Many on nairaland or elsewhere might not have attended due to individual constraints whether financial, medical or any other. As your brother is dreaming, so do I and I pray to be able to attend insha Allah before my last breath.

Thanks.

@kiwi992,

kiwi992:

Hi Frizy,



Yeah, you are quite right there.

However, to tell you the truth, I don't think that I'll be able to devote myself to the religion as most of you guys do.

Right now, I'm just being grateful to Allah for affording me the protection from jinn.  Everything in my house is cool and I've also managed to memorise the English translation of Ayatul Kursi.

Thanks for the suggestion anyway.




kiwi992.

You really tried for memorizing the ayatal Qurisiy. However, you can still do more to your understanding why you need to be totally submissive to Almighty Allah. We have not much long time to realize this, while we regret when it become too late. So, please put more effort to your thinking and be prayerful for guidance. May almighty Allah assist you and people like you in general.
Thanks.

[center]TAUHID ( ISLAMIC MONOTHEISM )[/center]
Tauhid ( Islamic Monotheism ) has three aspects :

(A) Oneness of the Lordship of Allah ; Tauhid-ar-Rububiyah : To
believe that there is only one Lord for all the universe its
Creator, Organizer, Planner, Sustainer, and the Giver of
security, etc., and that is Allah.

(B) Oneness of the Worship of Allah ; Tauhid-al-Uluhiya : To
believe that none has the right to be worshiped [ e.g. praying,
invoking, asking for help (from the unseen), swearing,
slaughtering sacrifices, giving charity, fasting, pilgrimage,
etc. ] but Allah.

(C) Oneness of the Names and the Qualities of Allah ;
Tauhid-al-Asma was-Sifat : To believe that :

(i) We must not name or qualify Allah except with what He or His
Messenger, Muhammad (peace be upon him), has named or qualified
Him,

(ii) None can be named or qualified with the Names or
Qualifications of Allah ; e.g. AL-Kareem,

(iii) We must confirm all of Allah's Qualification which Allah
has stated in His Book (the Qur'an) or mentioned throuhg His
Messenger ( Muhammad ) without changing them or ignoring them
completely or twisting the meanings or giving resemblance to any
of the craeted things [ e.g. Allah is present over His Throne as
mentioned in the Qur'an (20:5) :- " The Most Beneficent (Allah)
Istawa (rose over) the (Mighty) Throne " over the seventh heaven
; and He only comes down over the first (nearest) heaven to us
on the day of Arafat (the 9th of Dhul-Hijja), and also during
the last third part of the night as mentioned by the Prophet
Muhammad (peace be upon him), but He is with us by His Knowledge
only, not by His Personal-Self (Bi-Dhatihi).

Also Allah said : " There is nothing like unto Him and He is
the All-Hearer, the All-Seer " (42:11)

This holy Verse confirms the quality of hearing and the quality
of sight for Allah without resemblance to others, and likewise
He also said :

" To one whom I have created with Both My Hands," (38:75)

" The Hand of Allah is over their hands " (48:10)

This confirms two Hands for Allah, but there is no similarity
for them. This is the Faith of all true believers, and was the
Faith of all the Prophets of Allah, from Noah, Abraham, Moses,
and Christ till the last of the Prophets , Muhammad (peace be
upon them all) . [ It is not like as some people think that
Allah is present everywhere--here, there and even inside the
braests of men ] .



# These three aspects of TAUHID are included in the meaning of
La ilaha
ill-Allah ( none has the right to be worshiped but Allah ) .


# It is also essential to follow Allah's Messenger, Muhammad
(peace be upon him) : Wajub al-Itteba'a and it is a part of
Tauhid-al-Uluhiyah .

This is included in the meaning, " I testify that Muhammad
(peace be upon him) is Allah's Messenger," and this means, "
None has the right to be followed after Allah's Book (the
Qur'an), but Allah's Messenger Muhammad (peace be upon him)," .

Allah said :

" And whatsoever the Messenger ( Muhammad) gives you, take it,
and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain from it " (59:7) .

" Say ( O Muhammad to mankind ), If you (really) love Allah then
follow me [ i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur'an
and the Sunnah (legal ways of the prophet Muhammad peace be upon
him), ], Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins. "
(3:31) .