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Tinyemeka: Go and read up the process of cloning. Perhaps what you unwittingly have in mind is In Vitro fertilization.

As for the OP's question, I believe the answer is yes. A clone is an "offspring" of a living human cell. Much the same way as the embryo (and by extension the baby or human) being a product of a s.perm cell and ovum. So clones also have souls.

Fool. Did you not see where I corrected myslef? Are you interested in cheap points?

Also for your information there is more than one way to clone human beings, one needing sperm

logicboy: Kai, I stand corrected! As usual, you're always epic!

I knew only on process of cloning and not the one you mentioned.

Dolly the sheep was cloned from a cell of her meother and an embro of another. Your method is called Somatic cell nuclear transfer!

ijawkid: Why shuld u feel inferior because Jesus was not painted black by africans or nigerians or becos he is painted white or as an arabian in an african nation?

It don't bother me which color Jesus was....

I don't care if he was green.....

Its only a racist like u who will worry about his color...

That's my point........


Now ur d 1 feeling inferior because jesus was painted white,not me or many other christians................

Ur the racist here...........

So if we paint Jesus as black as a charcoal how does that change anything?

Would that make u love him??

I know! Your ignorance is bliss!

The following things dont bother you;

-Christianity supported the slavery of your forefathers
-The catholics compiled the bible you use and you sound foolish when you claim that they are fake christians
-Jesus was racist towards the Canaanite woman. If a doctor did exactly the same to you, you wouldnt find it funny.



Only a slave like you wouldnt see the problem of Jesus being painted white in a country that is predominatly black.

-you're too ignorant to realise that if Jesus existed, there was little chance that he was white
-you're too ignorant to realise that the reverse would never happen in Europe
-you're too ignorant to realise that I am not the first black person to raise the issue of Jesus skin colour.
-you're too ignorant to realise that even whites complain about Jesus's representation as white

Logic Mind: did she now?

Anyway maclatunji is a vile useless individual that defends his powerless god with a ban button. How pathetic.

She sha said that you were abusive, although she hid the thread.

Anyway, whoever banned me has problems. The person lacks courtesy. Fake azz muslim

Shut up, if you like heaven so much, go hug a transformer and leave the rest of us normal people to enjoy our lives.

ijawkid: The spiritual isreal is ""THE ISREAL OF GOD""

A spiritual nation.....

Scriptures are up there for u to read....

If ur not racist why shuld it bother u that Jesus is always pictured as not a black man.....

There is no proof of a spiritual isreal in the bible. You are turning to Buzugee who smokes weed when reading the bible.

Look, it should bother every Nigerian that Jesus is painted white in Nigeria.

Jesus can be painted white in UK, I dont care

Jesus can be painted white in Canada, I dont care

Korean Jesus can be Korean in south Korea, I dont care

When Jesus is painted white in Nigeria, a black country, there is clearly something wrong. Everybody paints their version of Jesus. Naija get wahala!


The problem is that you are ignorant about your inferiority complex to the white man while me, I am asking for the equal representation of Jesus. We are all equal.

ijawkid: Ur still d one worryin yaself about racism here........

I just explained sometin more detailed up there but u won't listen......

U just picked up points frm frosbels post to critisize Yahwehs arrangement....

Oh now ur asking me why ur a racist?

You claimed that I am a racist. I'm asking for proof

You claimed that there is a spiritual isreal. Iasked for proof and you pulled random scriptures that dont support the claim


I asked you to define the "lost sheep of isreal" and you failed.

i.chuka:
Slothfullness casteth into a deep sleep;and an idle soul shall suffer hunger..Proverb19:15.
Slothfullness has become our brand name.
We are too lazy/busy to study our Bible.depending solely on a minister of God to teach us.while the role of a true minister of God "IS TO TEACH US THAT, THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL TEACH US".i am writing these things to you about those who are trying to lead you astray.as for you,the Anointing you receive from Him remains in you,and YOU DO NOT NEED ANYONE TO TEACH YOU,but as HIS ANOINTING TEACHES YOU ABOUT ALL THINGS and as that Anointing is Real,not counterfeit,just as it has Taught you,remand in Him...1Jhn2:26-27.
Christ was Crucified "OUTSIDE THE CITY"..And so Jesus also suffer OUTSIDE THE CITY GATE to make the people Holy through His own Blood."Let us then,go to Him OUTSIDE the camp,bearing the disgrace He bore.....Hebrw13:12-13.
Its a wakeup call,He is calling us out of any established Traditions,established System or Organization to be with Him.
"Come out of her,My people,so that you will not share in her sins,so that you will not recieve any of her plagues...Rev18:4..

Shut up.

Anyone can spew bullsh!t and attach it to scriptures.

ijawkid: @logicboy...........................

Please pick up d book u hate so much and read these scriptures....

Read romans 9:6 and romans 2:28 $ 29

Not all who spring from isreal are really isreal..For he is not a jew who is one on the outside,nor is circumcision that which is on d outside upon d flesh..But he is a jew who is one on d inside,and his circumcision is that of d heart by spirit,,..

Frosbel did write out sometin that ur myopic mind won't wanna grasp just because of ur hatred for Christ.....

He quoted romans 11:17-24 and also u migh.t wanna check galatians 3:28 $ 29.....

That emphasizes that with the breaking off of some ""natural branches(natural Jews) of d figurative olive tree,there was a grafting in of ""wild""(non-isrealite ones),so that there was no racial or class distinction among those that are really abrahams seed,heirs with reference to a promise....

So both natural jews who were now a few were united with non-isrealites to form a new nation,since d former(nation of isreal) couldn't meet up with yahwehs requirements any longer.......
Read matthew 21:43

Galatians 6:15 $ 16 talks about d ""isreal of God""

And that isreal of God is made up of neither jews nor greeks,
Slaves or freeman,male nor female.....


Read also 1peter 2:9 $ 10

The apostle peter quoted what had been said to natural isreal in exodus 19:5 $ 6and applied it to the spiritual isreal of God......

Shut up. All those passages you put turn out to be things that dont support your claim- as always.


You are full of Bullsh1t!!!!



And how am I a racist?


What is the lost sheep of Isreal again? You failed to define it the first time, try again

Really, the muslim moderators on Nairaland are really disappointing mennn..


I got banned without any notification whatsoever! Dem harsh oooo!!!

Even when Jesoul and Logic Mind were having their couple's argument, Jesoul notified Logic Mind why she banned him.

ijawkid: If as a catholic b4 u never read d bible completely then I'm sorry....

If u'v not seen the terms spiritual isreal or the ""isreal of God"" in d bible then just wait and see it......I'ma show u brother....

D lost sheep of isreal is made up of both natural Jews and gentiles.....

Let me start quoting scriptures for ya......

If Jesus was half a racist as ur atheist nations I would have been worried.....

For Jesus sake he still cured d woman bt u choose to hang on his words that u misunderstand.......

This is d same Jesus who spoke to d sameritan woman.....

Did u forget to quote that?

D goodnews got to all of d gentiles after Jesus ascension...

Infact that was why d holy spirit was sent....

So that gentiles can be brought in..

Cannanites,ammonites,romans,ethopians,egyptians.,everybody......

if I'm not mistaken ur a racist tOo...................

Guy, go siddon. You have no points.

You failed to show the quote supporting your "spiritual isreal"

The very fact that you separate people as "Jew" and "gentile" is racist. As if Jews are the only people in the world and the rest are just bundled together.



And how am I a racist? I would like to know?

Image123: on age of accountability, I think you shoot it too up by saying 13. To me, if Jesus is our perfect example to follow, and all scriptures are for our learning, then it may be way below. At 12years old Jesus was much accountable and about His Father's business. Daniel knew stuff as young as he was to be able to purpose in his heart and live a godly life in a strange land. It's a similar thing with young Samuel. it's unfortunate nowadays the ploy of the adversary, to make us not train up our children in the way they should go. The children church has become a play class struggling to meet up with the entertainment obtained in private schools, that's even where children church exist. Other places they just run and play all through church. Then we start to 'train' them when they are already formed into satanic tools. This is not right at all.

Yet, you guys will be the first to say that Muhammad married a girl that was too young.

just kidding!

cryptic: what is the meaning of that?

God is a lie. God doesnt exist.

cryptic: lilkech...Leave these fools alone...they cant answer my simple questions...when u guys garner more knowledge, u can come back and debate with me...Idi!ots...

After you have been debunked and passed around like a prison b1tch?


You are having delusions of grandeur

olasesi: ones again, give us ur proofs and references....as done below

"Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves."
Numbers 31:17-18

'I will punish what Amalek did to Israel when he barred his way as he was coming up from Egypt. Go, now, attack Amalek, .... Do not spare him, but kill men and women, children and infants, oxen and sheep, camels and asses.' (1 Samuel 15:2-3 NAB)

Quran loves murder

2:50 And when We brought you through the sea and rescued you, and drowned the folk of Pharaoh in your sight.

4:89 They long that ye should disbelieve even as they disbelieve, that ye may be upon a level (with them). So choose not friends from them till they forsake their homes in the way of Allah; if they turn back (to enmity) t[b]hen take them and kill them wherever ye find them,[/b] and choose no friend nor helper from among them,

Kai! See as they don abandon thread!


Soldiers of christ on the run!

Wizards' first rule;

"People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs, and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid; they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth, and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool."

You believe this lie because you are afraid of the fairytale in the bible that scares you about the end of days

elvisimeh: Mr. Animal instinct, ur opinion dnt care since u've placed urself on the same pedestal with a dog.

Like your racist Jesus, you love to call unbelievers "dogs"



Matthew 15:21-28
New International Version (NIV)
The Faith of a Canaanite Woman

21 Leaving that place, Jesus withdrew to the region of Tyre and Sidon. 22 A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, “Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is demon-possessed and suffering terribly.”

23 Jesus did not answer a word. So his disciples came to him and urged him, “Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.”

24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.”

25 The woman came and knelt before him. “Lord, help me!” she said.

26 He replied, “It is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

elvisimeh: u'd need a army of agnostic(maybe there's God/maybe nt what do i care)/atheist(happy-go-lucky individuals whose only existence is as a heap of dust) to ruffle me.

Of course, it takes more than two people to restrain a mad man.

lilkech: so logicboy went as far as opening all these accounts just to attack cryptic ?

SO ALL OF YOU ATHEISTS GOT TO MEET 'BOB THE RACIST DRUNK' RECENTLY ABI ?

ha ha ha ha

See this loser. Sore loser.

Keep trolling


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musKeeto: if ignorance is a disease, elvisimeh should be in ICU.. intellect care unit

The guy should be a permanent resident there. The brain damage is too much

Zodiac61: For some people, ignorance is bliss.
One cannot blame them, they are just incapable of logical and intellegent reasoning.

ijawkid: @frosbel......good post men.....

Especially when u talked about professed christians engaging in d physical wars of these earthly kingdoms....

You so hit d nail on d head........

Satan rules d world so @ d end of d day when persons tink they'v been going to war to protect there country,they'v only just been working for satan....

Shut up. You christians call people "satan" with no remorse or sympathy. The implication of oyur statement is that either Obama is satan or he works for satan.

Why are you people just foolish?

ijawkid: D lost sheep of isreal are those from all tribes ,peoples,tongues and nations that are willing to serve God......

Ur problem logic boy is that u tink d isreal there is d nation of isreal....

Have u heard of spiritual isreal

Now that's the isreal Yahweh is working with @ this time of the end

""The isreal of God""""

Made up of d natural Jews,gentiles and all individuals who exercise faith in Jesus christ ransom sacrifice....

Now that cannanite woman that has been ya problem all this while is so part of the spiritual isreal.........

Got it?

Epic fail!!!!!


1) There is no spiritual Isreal mentioned in the bible. Isreal has always been a piece of land in the bible.

2) Why are they lost sheep, if they were willing to serve God? They would be sheep following the Shepherd already.

3) If the lost sheep were willing to serve God, then what do you call the ones that were not willing or did not know God?

4) The bible clearly referenced the woman's background (Canaanite). It was clear that Jesus was referring to her tribe/nation

5) The woman already believed in Jesus. The woman knew that Jesus could help her, so what was Jesus wahala?

6) The part where he referred to her as a dog because of her background was racist and demeaning. food not meant for dogs.

7) If Jesus was talking about people willing to serve God, why did he mention dogs? I thought the word of God was for everybody? And it is left for us to sow the seeds of our faith?

ijawkid: U still dnt understand all what frosbel wrote.....

Logicboy ur rili hating on d bible full time....

What dont I uderstand?

One thing is for sure; you, Frosbel and Goshen all run away from defining the term "lost sheep of isreal" and why the Canaanite woman is not included, so as to avoid exposing your Jesus as a racist.



One thing is clear; I understand the bible more than any of you and that is why I am an atheist

elvisimeh: you have legs, that doesn't mean u should worship ur legs or live by them, Mr. Animal instinct

Ode, failed analogy.

Did I say that one should owrship his animal insticts or live by them alone? What happened to the individual interacting with society?


Ignorance is a disease!

Goshen360: I see you are just online to catch fun n waste people's time because you seems not serious. i dont have my precious time to waste with you,okay. whenever i have your time, i will create a thread to take you up. okay. thnx

Soldier of christ on the run from the truth!!! What is the meaning of lost sheep of isreal? Why is the Canaanite woman not part of it?

Goshen360: If born again is meaningless term to you, how shall you understand "lost sheep of israel"?

Why are you escaping the question? What is the meaning of lost sheep of isreal


We can easily define born again but it has too many definitions

Catholics will say
-born again is to be baptized with water and accept that you're a new christian and fully committed to Christ. Baptism necessary and important

Some protestanst will say;
-Born again is accepting christ and being a real christian by your actions. By their fruit, you shall know them. Baptism is not always necessary

Other protestants will say
-Baptism and spiritual rebirth

Jehovah witness
-People dont have the power to be born again

Which born a gain is real?



Still, you are avoiding the question!! what is the meaning of the lost sheep of isreal!

Answer my question- What does lost sheep of isreal mean?


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Goshen360: Dude, you don't understand anything about the scriptures. Your mind is not seeking the knowledge of God but hatred. Jesus is NOT racist in the first place.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not. But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, [even] to them that believe on his name: John 1:11-12 kjv

So tell me how Jesus was a racist from the above verses?

Tell me, did Jesus recieve people outside his current environment? Isreal, Roman empire?

Fr0sbel: I am sorry but there is no way you could have been born again of the Spirit of God and remained the same. Even a backslider will not talk the way you do because s(he) once had the touch of the Holy Spirit.

In other words, you were a nominal or professing Christian, not a born again Christian - Fact !!

I have asked the question 4 times.

What does lost sheep of isreal mean? Why was the Canaanite woman not part of it?


"born again" is a meaningless term.

elvisimeh: look who is talking? Mr Animal instinct

Ode, as if you dont have animal instincts.

Everyone does. You are just to ignorant to realise a basic fact

Fr0sbel: Honestly logicboy , you are not making any logic

You don't believe in God, leave us to wallow in our ignorance, abi

What does lost sheep of isreal mean? Why was the Canaanite woman not part of it?