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cryptic: Maybe you should read more...have you heard of life review? Heard of out of body experience?

nonsense. Incredible and ridiculous claims

cryptic: Einstein believed in a GOd... The fact that he did not clone a ship or build a refrigerator dosen't change the fact that he was one of the most intelligent man that roamed this planet

More intelligent than Jesus or Muhammed for sure.

However, did you ignore that I said that he was an agnostic? He didnt believe in your notion of God. For all we know, his god could be a dark hole.


God still doesnt exist. Einstein was a scientist. God is not science.

bellisma: you dont believe in God tis ok. Ikeep saying this to people who dont believe, theres life after death.Then u ll know if theres God or not

How do you know that there is life after death? Nobody knows so shut up

cryptic: The thing these people fail to understand about God is that death is an inherent part of nature. How you die is dependent on what decisions you and those around you make. Cursing GOd and questioning him is senselessness. Those that died in the crash died because of negligence and human error on the part of other humans like them....so really, think about it...How is God to blame?

Then why praise God for journey mercies and not your pilot or plane? Ode

philip0906: Kindly define Faith and relate it with d above

Faith is belief without evidence. For you to ignore that is just foolish.

philip0906: Kindly prove this. . . just like we know 2+2=4

A study has shown atheism in the West to be particularly prevalent among scientists, a tendency already quite marked at the beginning of the 20th century, developing into a dominant one during the course of the century. In 1914, James H. Leuba found that 58% of 1,000 randomly selected U.S. natural scientists expressed "disbelief or doubt in the existence of God" (defined as a personal God which interacts directly with human beings). The same study, repeated in 1996, gave a similar percentage of 60.7%. Expressions of positive disbelief rose from 52% to 72%.[16]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism

philip0906: Do you have any evidence dat 2moro will "exist"? If it does, kindly show it 2 me. Besides, your scientists friends are planning 4 2060. Based on ur definition, u are wrong.

Yesterday is proof of tomorrow. The next day has always been coming for over 6,000 years, since man has been able to acknowledge time. Keep asking stupid questions

philip0906: .
Big lie. . .It does not and cannot answer most of OUR questions cos it is not consistent. It is fraught with inconsistencies. When I was a kid, we were taught that we had 9 planets.Scientists re still discovering more.

How did you know about planets in the first place? From the bible or science? How did you get the computer you are using? Science or God? How do you know that your computer is not going to consistently fail? Science+warranty or Jesus?

cryptic: I can see that u are "ignorance" personified....was Einstein an atheist? Was newton also an atheist? How many scientists come close to what those two achieved? Even Von Neumann who was an atheist had to call a priest on his death bed...you just want to seem intelligent but u come across as a biiigggg foooool...what knowledge have you acquired to make u say categorically all of the rubbish u been saying? I am here for all of you fooooools. All of you atheists, let get into some intellectual discussion and stop saying stuffs u are not even sure of...the most intelligent people who roamed and still roams the earth acknowledge the presence of a super power. I dare u to give logical answers to my questions...

1)Einstein was either a deist or agnostic
"I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a God, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty. Neither can I believe that the individual survives the death of his body, although feeble souls harbor such thoughts through fear or ridiculous egotism." [Einstein

2)Einstein did not clone a sheep nor did he build a refridegerator.

cryptic: YOu are such a confused soul....note the bolded parts...

Ode, I was quoting the racist and opposing him later

ypzilanti: I choose to believe in Christianity. It is a choice.

Faith is also required to believe your big bang theory and evolution too. There is no proof for those either, but atheists act like they have certain proof of their belifs.

There are smarter people...nobel lauretes that have studied everything from astronomy to microbiology that have come to the conclusion based on the intricacy of design, that there is Intelligent Design.

Why do we have an atmosphere that burns approaching objects from space when other planets are rammed left right and center? Why does the ice float to the top of water to ensure that life continues under water during winter? The simplest microbe is so sophisticated in design.

Dont be so cocky being an atheist and think you are smarter than everyone else. My choice is based on my own personal experience in my faith. If I had not experienced it, I would probably be like you too...but maybe less sure.

Ignorance leads to faith.

1)Most scientists are atheists. Most nobel prize winners are atheist. Shocking when you realise that atheists are an absolute minority of the world's total population.

2)Faith is not based on evidence, it is belief without evidence. There is evidence for evolution (fossils, current human and animal evolution, DNA etc).

3)Science explains most of your questions. The world is not perfectly built for life. Guess what? 90% of the world water is salt water.

uchkochi: THIS IS WHAT GOD MAY BE DOING WHEN IT LOOKS AS IF HE IS SLOW OR SILENT.

1.God may be waiting for you to do your part,so that He can do His,Faith is essentially doing what you can do,for God to do what you cannot do.Hebrews 11:6 says,It is impossible to move God without faith.God does not move except He sees faith.

2.When God seems to be slow,He wants you to slow down.God cannot be following you,you are to follow Him.He does not strife with man,He is not the author of confusion.He leads,He does not follow,so if you are too much in a rush,God may appear to be slow,so that you can retrace your steps appropriately.Psalm 23:1-2.

3.When you trust yourself so much and believe in your flesh,God slows down and may seem silent.You must learn how to trust God with all your heart.Not part of it but ALL of it.

4.God may be silent or slow down,when you give Him dead-Line. God does things according to His timing which is always the best.

5.God may seem slow or silent,when He has already finished that good thing that He began.He is waiting for you to see it.He wants you to thank Him so that you can physically see it.

6.When God seems to be slow,it is because He wants you to catch up with Him.He wants you to know more,He wants you to get more knowledge.Daniel 11:32b says,Those that know their God shall be strong and do exploits.He wants you to increase your capacity.

So when God seem slow or silent,check these points above,and if you are properly positioned,keep thanking Him because He has done it already and it will become real as you continue in thanksgiving.Be blessed in Jesus name
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Do you have God's phone number? I thought God works in mysterious ways? But now you know his style? Are you testing buddies?


Ukochi; God, wassap?

God; I am waiting for that slowpoke, logic boy to believe in me

Ukochi; God, why dont you send lightening to blast him?

God; I dont want to resemble Zeus. Enough people don dey claim say I be copycat. Jesus was not the first virgin birth.

Uckochi; God, wetin you go do for this logic boy?

God; As usual, I will wait.........

life_style: Can you come out publicly (on the street,On the bus, ) and convince people there is no GOD ?

Even a drunkard can do that.

It was a drunk racist that converted me. A racist agnostic.

"Black people are cursed by God, they run to a religion that enslaved their forefathers for over 300 years".


That statement shook me. I read about christianity and slavery that night and I never looked back at God. A god that would allow slavery to happen to people. Do you know what it is to be the property of another human being? To be separated from your home and family? To be whipped to do hard labour? To see your women raped? To have your toes cut off if you try to run?


Evolution and science came after and sealed my non belief in God. Not one physical evidence of God.


However, I must say that blacks are not cursed.

Lordsocrates: you did this bcoz u saw it in d bible n belived dat d would be reckonin..so i would say u dnt bliv in religion..but u mst certainly bliv dat there is a God out there...

I didnt do it because of the bible. I was just showing what the bible says about my work.


I never cared about the poor when I was a christian like many churches and pastors. I was an atheist before I became a humanist

Jenwitemi: What i am trying to tell you is that, to separate yourself from the religionists you try so hard to distant yourself from, you will have to first of all begin to think outside the box. Religions keep your thinking processes in a tiny box, but what you do not know is that when you think that you have finally gotten out of religion and become an "atheist", you are still in the grips of religion because of the way you think, your thoughts and perspectives are still as narrow as ever. Nothing has changed.

Religion is still controlling your thought processes. To really set yourself free, you need to start thinking outside the box and not within it. Expand your horizon, bro. Broaden your perspective, your worldview. Then you would really be free of religious influence on yourself. That's a good advice for you for free.

Pure nonsense. Why I called you an agnostic hippie buddhist is because you seem to accept many paths to enlightenment. Evolution and creation are two different paths which you claim are two sides of the same coin.

Stop your philosophical bollsh1t

Image123: saw this in my Bible after your advice.
Heb 11:6 But without faith it is IMPOSSIBLE to please God: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Unfortunately for you, no one knows who wrote Hebrews.

This contradicts Jesus. Who is more important in your religion. What are you going to do?


All this is still a joke because God doesnt exist. I do not need to please him.



Anyways,

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There is nothing you can do as a christian that I can not do as an atheist[/size]

ea7: buzugee, please stay off if you have nothing to say

Buzugee?

tidytim: Arabic

The author of this article is an Arab, Tbaba and his colleague can only understand Pidgin Arabic

Thank you,

I just want to hear from the main muslim lords of Nairaland. This is a very interesting and trending topic. Why are they avoiding?

mkmyers45: WORD!

Cheerleading....

Jenwitemi: Logicboy, you should change your name to "tunnelvision boy". Your thought perspective is as narrow as any religious person's, if not narrower.

Thanks for the ad hominem and no substance at all.

snowdrops: This is one of the best thread ever on NL

Bravo OP.

Totally agree! This thread shows us how much Nigeria's aviation industry's standards have to improve. These old planes could be death traps.

Lol....at least, LagosShia is here.


[size=15pt]Where are the people who understand Arabic to give us the info on this story?


Where are Tbaba and Maclatunji? [/size]

KnowAll: There is what is called 'practical christainity' as suppose to lukewarmish christanity, if you are lukewarm with or in anything in life even in the secular world you are bound to fail. Christains who have ears should listen and practised what they preach. The bible did not tell us to have remorse over dead people, we can have a twinge of smpathy but the fact remains their destinies cannot be altered if they have not reconciled with their maker b4 their demise.

Your're a religious extremist. Your are dangerous.

lilkech: so ? Wot should i care ? so i should run and get a dictionary ? must someone know what that particular word means before you agree that a human being is not ignorant

look here my friend, nor be to dey call big big dictionary words to dey try decieve laymen on NL, then when they dont send u the next thing we go dey hear na so so 'ignorant' wey u go dey trumpet

ive already told you that i know your kind and nothing good can come out from your type (so far as NL is concerned)

Nothing good can come from my kind (atheists)? Isnt that bigotry towards atheists?


Please look at this thread before you condemn me

https://www.nairaland.com/926302/atheist-please-help-me-stop

OLAADEGBU: Have you considered England for instance, who still has the Church of England as its official state church, whose queen is currently celebrating its 60th golden jubilee?

And so? That is their history only

BetaThings: ^^^^^
The mourning they are talking of has to do with religious service and prayers
It is a duty imposed by islam on the entire muslim community
Muslims don't make prayers for DEAD non-muslims
This is actually why Muslims encourage whoever wants to become a muslim to do so quickly

The religion of peace or bigotry?

Jenwitemi: Creation and evolution. One cannot be without the other. Two sides of the same coin. Very weak topic for debate.

What are you? Some kind of Agnostic hippie bhuddist?


Evoltuion has nothing to do with creationism. Parts of evolution debunk Genesis in the bible and that is why christians put forward creationism as an alternative theory. Creationism is fake and not science.

Where are the muslims on this story? Or is this story false?

Do you honestly expect christians to read this?

If it is not in short quotes like.......

"Give until it hurts"!

"sow and you shall reap"

"holy ghost fire burn my enemies"


.....they wont read it

Ptolomeus: Logicboy, dear friend:
Usdted what you want? End to the churches? Finish with the sweet business of the shepherds? Look you, how the have reacted the submissive sheep ... In little lambs do not mind the fast of Jesus or the Bible ... only care that their beloved pastor prosper ... So, little lambs love to leave his family penniless, knowing that the pastor will have prosperity ...
With its proposal, logicboy, would not be pastors ... because none of them care about God or church or anything other than the money of fools ... And as you can see ... Fools give he the money to him ... very happy!
Jesus is a great business to the pastors ...
Jesus fasted, pastors drink champagne ...

Hahaha


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lilkech: can you just imagine the sheer hypocrisy of some human beings on this website.

imagine someone believing in a supreme God factor but not agreeing that it could be verified via religion . . . that is the exact reason why i decided to quit responding to the blood sucker a few pages back

i commend you for helping the musquito to reveal its true stand on its spiritual mentality

You only show ignorance about what an agnostic is.

LoJ: There are already churches doing that on a permanent basis. I'm leading a community that took no money from the members for more than 10 years. I know another one in cyprus that has a similar manner.

What you're saying is not new.

However you're right on one point: Money (Mammon) is the "god" of this lost world..

LoJ

That's remarkable!

Logic Mind: You are welcome. That is why I like atheists. We accept when we are wrong and learn new things everyday.
Religious people will never accept, even in the face of mounting and undeniable evidence, that they may be wrong about something. They are always afraid that their god would send them hailstones if they ever accept that the lies they have been fed are actually lies.

Amen brother!

alexleo: If as an atheists you were in the crashed Dana plane, while christians and muslims are crying and praying before the crash would u have prayed? If yes, to who? if no, what would you have done?

I would bring out my Ipod and listen to Notorious BIG aka Biggie Smalls while the others are shouting and screaming to God.

I would die like a boss!

Logic Mind: That is the exact process used to create dolly the sheep.

This is the process being used to create a lot of the cloned beef americans are eating today.

Kai, I stand corrected! As usual, you're always epic!

I knew only on process of cloning and not the one you mentioned.

Dolly the sheep was cloned from a cell of her meother and an embro of another. Your method is called Somatic cell nuclear transfer!