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Deep Sight: ^ ^ ^ Can you show me one single piece of "modern scientific knowledge" which shows you, "logicboy" that God does not exist?

Deep Sight: Atheism does not do this. It rather makes many religionists retreat further and deeper into their faith. The fundamental premise of atheism is a notion that mosts theists will never take seriously, and quite right so.

What rather acheives the above is not atheism, but healthy, open minded criticism which is definitely not militantly or evangelically atheist.

How is this a good thing?

I say with firm certitude to you sir: that there is not one single atheistic argument that rhymes with common sense or accords with science.

emöfine2: The arguments here more often than not are solely aimed to provoke thus the frequency of collision which some are now trying to avoid in what several see as a futile and tedious exercise.

I don’t see why there should be disharmony due to our various beliefs or lack of nor should it even be a competition.



Hmm the evangelical atheist?

Deep Sight: Please do get off your high horse. There is no need to make such sweeping assumptions as this. Your comment suggests that no person who leans towards creationism posesses the attribute of intelligence. History says you are wrong: teh vast majority of the biggest and brightest brains that have graced this planet have been people who believed in God. Indeed most scientific knowledge has been advanced by similar people.

You should not think that beleiving in God makes any person fo.olish. It does not.

OLAADEGBU: The Bible tells us that everything was created by God and nothing evolved. If you read the account of creation in the Bible you will see many historical events concerning the beginning of this world and through the application of science we can confirm that God's account of creation is true. You will see that every creature was given the ability to reproduce after its own kind for instance, dogs only produce dogs and not produce cats neither do cats and dogs produce what is called part cat and part dog together. Dogs began as dogs and still remain dogs even though they may vary in species and this is exactly what we observe in the real world today. God made apes as apes, and man as man. We observe that each creature brings forth after its own kind and that is right thinking. Wrong thinking is to think that man comes from another kind which we do not observe. We are able to confirm all this through good science and logical thinking.

Callotti: Of course we are winning.
We used to be silent. . .but not anymore.
God bless J-America.
Forget Nigeria. . .Animals will have the rights to phock humans before human rights are respected in the whole of Africa kpa-kpa!

Freedom of choice!!!

Deep Sight: Any person who thinks that debates between atheistic positions and theistic positions are about "winning" is a very sorry soul. Such a soul has yet to ponder the poignance of its existence in the first place.

As a dear atheist friend of mine on this forum said [Jayriginal], God cannot be argued into or out of existence. If it exists, no amount of arguments will kill it. If it does not exist, no amount of arguments will create it.

trent9002: + @deep sight, I admire you. You are quite intelligent. Rather than these theists babbling trash here.

Pastor AIO: What I have got from the recent 'debates' on Nairaland is that

1)Atheists (a lot of the ones here at least) are superficial people who just copy and paste arguments that they've read elsewhere without delving any deeper into the subject matter.

2)Religionist (a lot of the ones here at least) are superficial people who just copy and paste from the bible and from bible interpretations that they've read elsewhere without delving any deeper into the subject matter.

Hmmmm . . . and what do the Atheists and the Religionists here have in common that they are so similar in their mode of thinking. Hmmm, they are nigerians. Some of the smartest people I've ever met in my life have been Nigerians, but also without a doubt the most abjectly idiotic people I've met in my life have also been Nigerians. It is a mystery, how opacity and light can be so intricately intertwined within the same gene pool.

Deep Sight: Every known scientific canon leans towards creationism.

OLAADEGBU: What do you understand by biblical creation?

Deep Sight: It surprises me that atheists always say this. The fact that a thing has a scientific explanation is no reason to suppose it uncreated. Everything, anyhow, must needs have a scientifc explanation. That is because everything is natural. That is no reason to suppose material nature to be its own cause.

OLAADEGBU: Creation answers all the logical questions that evolution doesn't and that is right thinking. Have you got anything to contribute to the topic if you think otherwise?

aletheia: They don't need to be slaves for them to get whipped, chained and mutilated.

Your reply is nothing but emotional piffle.

Again I ask you quite succinctly: What is wrong with slavery?

tbaba1234: ^ We can use our brains, talk about Islam and how the existence of God makes sense if you want...

aletheia: What's wrong with slavery? Jesus didn't talk about slavery. . .so what?

Eklektika: @caloti *shaking my head pathetically* u'v gone demented 4 sure.m so sory 4 u.
@ logiqboy,d 'thugster' language appeal iz besides d point.u r simply engagin in logiqal hide n seek.
But seriously,all u atheists dezerve pity.;-(
p.s:y r atheists alwayz dis hostile,violent n virulent in their verbal attaqs?hmm...

Mai-suya:
strictly speaking on the quran where it stated about women not marrying non-muslim could you complete what it also says about men marrying non-muslim? thats strictly speeking about the quran as you said. but then, studying the hadith and ijma you will get a clearer picture of the reasons.

on the issue of rights show me any verse in the quran which you think contravenes rights? you of all people should know better than making blanket generalizations.

also on the issue of polygamy you would agree with me that monogamy as a way in its self is a recent phenomenon going by world history. Man has been polygamous throughout the ages. and this has been the case not because of the quran or the bible or religion, but because it is in mans nature (africans were also polygamous). and even today you would agree with me that men are more likely to keep mistresses and girlfriends after marriage than women are to keep lovers after marriage (am not saying its not possible). so instead of keeping these unlawfull mistresses and girlfriends whom you give no 'human right' (they dont inherit you, their children are considered bastards etc) Islam gave them rights by allowing you to bring at most four (even though islam encourages you to be with one if you cant be just to four), so they can inherit you, their children are legit, it is an obligation for you to provide for them, and the lists of their rights goes on and on.
Now from another perspective globally there are more women than men. and this is true for most countries in the world (with exception for countries like india for obvoius reasons). the implication of this is that, if everey man gets married to a woman there would still be a sizable population of women without partners, in essence they end up as 'public properties' (neither I nor you want our mothers sisters or daughters to be PPs), so the only plausable solution is for any willing and able man to take another wife not mistress. and these will go along way in eliminating the prostitution black market. Otherwise you can profer a better solution.

musKeeto: You need that advice more than I do...

musKeeto: Me too.

tbaba1234: I see no problem in engaging in discussions with atheists. They have no case anyway. I have reservations about when they insult God or a prophet of God. Whenever that happens i just end the conversation. There are a few atheists here that can't have a decent conversation without insulting someone's beliefs, otherwise if you can articulate your points with an atheist, i see no problem.

brainpulse: I thought you were intelligent. SO GROWTH IS THE SAME THING AS EVOLUTION?

BACTERIA GROWTH IS THE SAME AS EVOLUTION? BACTERIA REACTION TO EXTERNAL CONDITIONS IS YOUR DEFINITION OF EVOLUTION? THEN YOU HAVE WASTED PARENT'S INVESTMENTS

tbaba1234: Israel is western ?? I give up::

musKeeto: Perfect proof that not all atheists are intelligent... just as arrogant and as forceful as the pathetic christians they claim to hate...

tbaba1234: I can't believe someone is trying to justify the statement::

Israel is in europe:

The Pope has no say in european politics at least not nearly as much as it used to be>>>

European slave trade is not a political issue: as least not directly:::

The state of israel does have political ties with Europe that is fine. But Israel is NOT the west.

musKeeto: Have you heard of BRICS? Are all member countries on the same continent? So trade agreements determine what continent you are on politically.. what an argument

They partake in European events cos their Muslims neighbours will not work with them. That doesn't make them politically situated in Europe, infact they're more politically situate 'to use your parlance' in the US than in Europe..
On the other hand, a country like Russia has its capital in Asia, but some parts are also geographically located in Europe.. Would you call them European or Asian?



What does catholicism have to do with Christianity? Was Jesus European? And how does European slave trade relate to Israel?

Pastor Kun: Atheists are by there nature the number hypocrites in the whole world so remove the log in your eye before pointing at the speck in another man's eye.

@Goshen/all
The exodus took place after four hundred and thirty years of the children of Israel being in Egypt. In effect several generations had passed and the current pharaoh could never have known or regarded Joseph even if there were records.

Exodus 12:40
40 Now the time that the children of Israel dwelt in Egypt was four hundred and thirty years.

D sage: Though,God answered the prayers of those that truly served him but his grace is upon every living creature including you&i.It's true that christains too were suffered in one way or the other.

The reason is that,some christains fail to understand the scripture,God expected us to work in order to live a good life.No amount of prayer can make our life better without work,God hated laziness because he too,worked according to the scripture.So,work and prayers worked together,without taking a steps,prayers might not be answered.

And at time,God punished us in order to know our faith/trust in him,but he eventually makes us happy.

tbaba1234: Israel is in europe? geography classes are needed here o!!

musKeeto: The highlighted shows you weren't referring to politics but location. You made a mistake, logically accept it..