deji15:

Let your goddess go and get back her $15m if she is not a coward just like yourself and her husband. She is playing politics / tactics of jail and like the GEJ 2019 project, she will fail woefully.

Oh, you don't want to arrest her again?

Who is the coward. A woman daring EFCC in Nigeria or a grown man with balls going on self-exile?

Tinubu does not even have the guts to stand up to Buhari. I'm sure he is castrated, an hemaphrodite, or he really has a pussy down there.

PEJ will get her money back and would be free until beyond 2023 when Buhari is out of the presidency.

She understands that politics requires a great deal of patience, while standing her ground. Something that your dog from Bourdillion street cannot fathom.

-Lord

aresssa:
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Using the military to intimidate the press, confiscate and destroy newspapers and obstruct deliveries is dictatorship, abuse of power and lawlessness and not fairness.



Look in the dictionary for the meaning of fairness and quit spewing elementary ad roadside nonsense...

Shut your bloody trap!

And not releasing people locked in detention indefinitely is fairness and lawful?

Distinguish between politics and democratic principles you simpleton.

Please show me an example of a perfect democrat and I'll show you the road to the nearest penitentiary. GEJ is not a god like you claim Buhari to be. So you simply can't take some overeaching tendencies to mean a crass lack or misunderstanding of democratic principles.

That just makes you a bigot.

-Lord

aresssa:





First you uttered that GEJ was democratic because he did not lock him up, now it's he only tried to intimidate him with fake charges.


The question now is, is intimidation and threats to lock up members of the position is democratic values?

See how you trashed up your own GEJ democratic nonsense with your own pointless rubbish..


You should try read over your rubbish before hitting submit..

Charges were not fake and the Attorney General actually said this year that the case was closed in error. Signifying there was a back-end deal before that case was resolved. And that same case could be whipped up in the future to nail or intimidate Tinubu if Buhari so wishes.

Is it not the same inconsequential CCT case that is also been used to intimidate Saraki.

Newsflash: Politics happen in democracy.

All the revelations about HRC, why did Obama not prosecute her in a supposedly democratic setting.

All you just typed here is proof that you're a juvenile in politics.

-Lord

deji15:

The unitelligent person is yourself if you have any brain. $15M, but she has been crying all over the place? He had to cry to Abdulsalami because he knows he is in trouble. Are you bringing him again in 2019 or he is dead politically?
Buhari's weakness is what Saraki and Dino are exploiting. A boy / man Dino taking pictures at Bourdillion is what you are hallucinating about?You re very clueless. Just like your ineffectual buffoon hero who was sent packing by Tinubu. That must be very painful and I understand your plights.
Only last week, we heard cries from Enugu, "Leave Patience Jonathan alone" That sounds like a cry for a woman that is getting ready to end up in jail. Ditto for the kleptomaniac and clueless husband.

Who has been crying all over the place?

Don't be emotional. It's all delay tactics and politics.

No wonder you were easily deceived to vote a senile, certificateless herder as Nigeria's savior.

PEJ was in Port Harcourt today. If you want to jail her, go and jail her, she is not hiding like your brown-teeth demi-god in some holed up apartment in London.

She is walking around with FG-provided security paid for with your TAX.

You think GEJ or PEJ is scared, because of ordinary $15m or one certificateless old soldier? That money will not even cover the souvenirs they used for their daughters wedding.

-Lord

aresssa:






Sadly for you and your kind peddling that laughable and disgusting fallacy, that lazy, crooked and incompetent man was a million miles far far away from the word democracy.


Using the military to gag the media, impound and confiscate newspapers and publishing houses was dictatorship and anti democratic behavior.


Using the same military to crush peaceful protests was anti democratic.


Conceding defeat after losing the 2015 election was what was expected and he did not do us any favor, such expected gestures excites only little and shallow minds with low or zero exceptions from themselves and other people.

Gag media and Kalu and Tinubu's papers were still printing newspapers. And he did not ban access to Twitter like Erdogan is currently doing.

Using military to crush peaceful protests and hundreds of protesters were not killed and buried in shallow graves like Buhari did to IPOB and shiite protesters.

I can see you people's problem, u guys need a dictator. Someone that would kill your relatives and still blame you for it.

GEJ would have taken Nigeria to war in 2015 and tell the West that he prefers a split country and the West would have bought it. That he conceded was so that people like you would not be killed. Because na una wen carry the mata for head nai for they make the scores.

If GEJ hadn't conceded defeat, we'd have had a second civil war in Nigeria. And the US and UK would have been negotiating a cease fire right now, because they would not dare kill Jonathan when the FG would have opened the CBN vaults to the entire SS militant camaraderie to shut down oil production in Nigeria and turn South Nigeria to Somalia. We'd have a full-blown humanitarian crisis in West Africa.

You think people who value power like Buhari, Gowon, Babangida in GEJ's shoes would have done what GEJ did?

So every morning thank your God that GEJ conceded so that ye may live!

-Lord

aresssa:




Poor student of history you are....


GEJ tried and failed when he put Asiwaju on trail based on bogus, fabricated and fake charges and he failed just like OBJ, Abacha and so on before him failed and same way these new clueless jokers are destined to fail..


And hand them over to the US based on what? The unfounded and charges that doesn't exist?



Stick to credible, sensible and rational argument....

You call the CCT trial an attempt to lock Tinubu up?

It was simply a way to remind him of who was in power then. An intimidation tactic. If they actually wanted to lock him up, they'd have done so.

Or do you want to dare Buhari to lock Tinubu up if Tinubu steps into Nigeria? Do you want to know if the charges, trumped or not, will stand? Let Tinubu make any useless noise, na extradition request UK go receive before evening of the same day when him talk sh*t.

A man that has been pummeled left and right from ministerial nomination to Nat'l assembly to Kogi to Ondo is the one you're breathing hot fumes for. No wonder he is so irrelevant because despite all of this affront on his interest, all the Yorubas are doing is bleating like excited goats on heat.

Na only threaten Buhari threaten to pursue GEJ directly, nai Nigeria lose more than 1m barrels within one month.

All these direct hits at Tinubu and the ugly toad still carry yansh dey give Buhari and Oyegun.

When humans are talking, don't bring in dogs and pigs to voice opinions.

-Lord

deji15:


For people like you, your hatred for Tinubu originates from the fact that he removed the ineffectual buffoon. Are you bring him again in 2019, or he is dead politically speaking? Imagine a former President going round begging Abdulsalami to intervene in the recovery of Peshe Jonathan's loot from EFCC.
Now your goddess account has been frozen, what can you do about it apart from online rant?

You talk unintelligently.

For common $15m. Nai u dey raise shoulder.

All PEJ has to do is hire good lawyers to make sure the money remains frozen until whenever a favorable government comes along that'll release it back to her. All of Kalu's sins has been forgiven under Buhari despite all the battles he had with OBJ. All the loots have been returned to him.

Keep salivating over nonsense.

Even your god Buhari knows GEJ and PEJ are untouchables. They move freely in Nigeria and go to wherever they want to with the full protection provided by the commonwealth of Nigeria and YOUR taxes (get that too). GEJ met Abdusalami to remind him of the peace accord, before them shut off Forcados line again.

Yet Tinubu is holed up in London. The rascal has been demoted from National Leader of APC in 2015 to common Lagos State APC leader in 2016. Just one year. He can't even stay in Lagos, his supposed stronghold. Melaye threatened to impregnate his wife and he couldn't say a word. All his talk about Oyegun resignation did not even turn heads.

Tinubu has lost his relevance, while GEJ has gained more relevance. 2015 was a Pyrrhic victory for Tinubu, every homo sapien with a functioning brain knows that. He lost more than he gained.

-Lord

Olabestonic001:



Lord abi wetin you call your name, even Jammeh lost against all odds in Gambia. No matter what, PMB's popularity is nosediving. By 2019 of everything still remains same, he'll be thoroughly disgraced.

A ruler in Africa that is willing to give up power without a fight will lose the election. If the Gambian dictator wanted to rule beyond 2016, he'd have eliminated the competition, not organize a free-and-fair election.

From Chad to CAR to Zimbabwe to Morocco. Any incumbent dictator, king, president who chooses to organize and contest today in a free and fair election in Africa will lose the election.

If OBJ had allowed a free and fair election to hold in 2003, he would have been sent packing to Ota.

Buhari will not make the mistake GEJ did in 2015, there'd be no free and fair election in 2019. Because he knows he will lose it.

-Lord

felicitywe:
Tinubu was localized by OBJ during his tenure.Yardua also did the same before death took him but GEJ being so magnanimous allowed Tinubu to execise his power on the benefit of democracy.Tinubu took it as a weakness on the part of GEJ and began plotting against GEJ.GEJ already knew what a typical Yoruba man can do which is betrayal,backstabbing you,being a spie in your house etc, but he kept quite.That gave Tinubu opportunity to collate other SW states coupled wt d fact that he had the money more than most up coming ambitious politican in d SW.While all these were happening,d North knew d SW better,they supportd Tinubu and he palyed along as a king,but aftr all victory they kept him at a distance bc they knew hw he started.

GEJ should have given Tinubu the treatment OBJ gave Alams and Ibori.

That's one of the errors GEJ did, he felt the vultures will remember him for his magnanimity. Starting from Tinubu to Tambuwal to Ameachi. He should have handed those f**kers to the US and UK to jail for at least 10 years.

-Lord

Olabestonic001:


And Buhari is really that magnanimous?
Tinubu would have been certified 'out' had it not been Buhari that is in govt. Buhari is not generous with contracts with boys. With his bad attitude of being stingy, he's not a politician that can 'do exploits'. His only selling point has been 'fighting corruption'. And that's even looking suspicious. All Tinubu needs to do is just go with the masses and he'll be up politically by 2019. The way the hunger in the land is biting, Buhari and his boys are tending towards political collapse. I'd Tinubu just switch camp to a popular candidate by 2019, PMB and his cohorts would be history. Don't be deceived by Aketi's victory; he was just a recipient of protest votes against Mimiko.

There will be no free and fair election in 2019. Get that into your thick, empty skull!

You see what happened in Edo. Results will be changed overnight and party agents will be chased away when it's time to collate votes. And they will give the excuse you guys use to bandy about that people know the bad economy is not their fault and that they couldn't fix 16 years of problems in 4 years.

That's just one of the ploy.

A party that conducted a sham of a primary that Tinubu himself condemned is the party you think will conduct a free-and-fair general election.

The rigging strategy is been perfected with every new election. By 2019, it'll be a complete do-or-die affair. 2003 will be child's play compared to 2019.

You think Buhari is Jonathan. I laugh in Yoruba.

Buhari will lock up any major person he thinks does not sit well with his interests and not release the person (like he is doing to Dasuki, Kanu, Obanikoro and the rest), even if that person is Tinubu and whether the courts command him to, and nothing will happen.

You guys just made a lunatic a president, na una go feel his wrath first hand. Tinubu is already feeling it. Na 2019 e go clear wella.

-Lord

deji15:


If Tinubu false "self exile" news is how you get your good night sleep, I can't deny you that "joy"
Why is Tinubu issue giving you headache?
Just say the truth, you are sad that Tinubu removed Jonathan.

Can you imagine this afonja.

Who is talking about Jonathan now?

Abi d name Jonathan dey make you high.

If na so,

Jonathan Jonathan Jonathan!!!

You don high reach?

Nonsense.

Jonathan is more popular than Buhari and Tinubu combined now and millions of Nigerians (except demented zombies) are regretting the 2015 ouster.

Jonathan was at Anenih's book launch and PEJ was at a burial today, free to roam. Whereas your so-called enigma is too scared to even live in Bourdillion street.

And you're still yapping about Jonathan.

We were talking civil about one thing and when you were called out for your blatant and shameful misrepresentation of fact, you just pulled the old Jonathan trick.

Get a life!

By the way which APC faction are you? Buhari, Saraki, Atiku, or Tinubu faction. Because you are the worst kind of zombie I've had the displeasure of communicating with you, since you're still deluded that there is no in-fighting between Buhari and Tinubu. Despite the many battles and re-alignments that are visible to the blind and audible to the deaf.

-Lord

deji15:

Yeah, you can chicken out as that provides easy route for you. "Always" is a figure of speech here to inform you that there are times that Tinubu has been away from the country.

For an extended period of time?

Under PDP, Tinubu never had a reason to go on what could aptly be described as "self-exile" exactly the kind that Namadi Sambo is currently on. But he now has a reason to do so under Buhari.

And you're blatantly deceiving yourself that Tinubu is doing okay. The guy is obviously avoiding a direct confrontation with Buhari. But how can Tinubu ask Oyegun to resign and Oyegun did not even bulge, and you're talking about Tinubu getting back in the game? You are just delusional.

-Lord

deji15:


Tinubu has always been outside the country even during the formation of APC etc. So you can continue to excite yourself with news of his "self exile"

Almost everywhere, the local APC are fighting each other.

- ElRufai vs Shehu Sanni - Kaduna
- El Rufai vs Atiku - National
- Gunduje vs Kwakwanso - Kano
- Okorocha vs Osita Okechukwu - SE Regional.
- Buhari vs Sanusi - National
- Buhari / Garba Shehu/The Cabal vs Buba Galadima, former CPC National Secretary and APC, BOT


Even Emir Sanusi has become an opposition to Buhari in many levels. Who knows whether he is fighting for his benefactor (Kwakwanso) who makes sure that he is installed the emir against other candidates.
Sanusi latest comment that CBN is illegally funding Buhari's government is damning and the NASS can easily seize on this to impeach Buhari.
Buhari is not a good politician by encouraging all this rancour and division within a party that just came into power last year.

Kwankwaso, Saraki and Sanusi are plotting Bubu's fall and novice are shouting Tinubu.
Buhari enemies are within his Northern Caliphate.
If for anything, Tinubu is only helping Buhari to retain power, just like he helped him to become the President.
Oyegun is clueless and has become a tool in the hands of Buhari's enemy

In bold, did you actually type "always" for an extended period of time?

Why do you lie without shame on a public forum?

I can't talk more about this if you are misrepresenting facts.

-Lord

ODVanguard:


Either you are a poor student of history or your blind hatred for Tinubu has got you all messed up. By 2003 OBJ/PDP had Tinubu encircled as the lone AD governor in the region, yet he was able to deploy uncommon sagacity and strategy in recovering each of those SW states (including Ondo after he went out of his way to assist Mimiko in recovering his mandate).

This same enigma again showed the stuff he is made of when he singlehandedly influenced Buhari's emergence as the APC flagbearer at the presidential primaries. I can understand that such dexterity and game-changing leadership acumen and pedigree has never been experienced in the part of the country you come from, therefore your fatalistic and fantastic projections concerning his political future can be understood and excused.

It's not the first time he's been written off. Your likes said the same and even worse about him after Fayemi (his preferred candidate) lost to Fayose, only for him to shock you all with his biggest victory yet -- the dethronement of a sitting incumbent for the first time in the history of Nigeria's Democratic experiment.

So you see, your likes will come and go, while the institution that is Ashiwaju will remain. That his name is still generating and commanding this much attention even without holding any public office is a clear enough testament to this truism and fact.

Tinubu has never fought a retired Fulani general who was once an head of state.

That's the difference between OBJ, GEJ, and Buhari.

Whatever room OBJ and GEJ gave Tinubu, Buhari will NEVER give Tinubu.

In fact ask yourself, since 1999 till date, has Tinubu ever gone on self-exile for anyone?

But he is currently doing so under Buhari!

Awolowo and Abiola fell to Northern interests. There is nothing about Tinubu that says he would not fall.

Buhari already has all he needs to win in 2019.

The only thing going for Tinubu is that he is not directly contesting for any position, so he can even wait until 2023 to do his thing and play another 2015 with enemies of his enemy. But as for 2019, APC, and Buhari, Tinubu should forget it.

-Lord

Oga created BTC account a few days back and observed for a few minutes and concluded that BTC will go the way of LR.

Where the Bloody Hell did he pull that inference from? If you ask me, I think it's his a**.

Mr. OP, if you had framed this thread as a Q&A thread to understand more about BTC and to ask others to allay your fears about the seeming similarities between BTC and LR, then you should have learned a lot more to cure your ignorance.

But your thread just proves that you should be left alone to wallow in your echo chamber of doom.

-Lord

akinswaggs:


I'm with you oh

Na to dey carry token for neck dey waka remain.

-Lord

modath:


You need heavy duty medication, lagactyl for short term rehab & Jesus for total cure!!!

Madam take it easy.

Suffre oh!

LOL! Una don turn psychiatrists. It's a good thing.

-Lord

Fremancipation:


Good points. I strongly believe that niger delta republic can be very viable and successful if the will and commitment is there amongst all groups involved. Nothing is impossible.

But can Niger deltans truly come together as one people and nation? What unites niger deltans outside of producing oil? Will cross river and akwaibom people join with ijaws and urohobos and itshekiri people? I am not trying to throw sand into your garri but I am being realistic.

If Niger deltans truly want their own nation, they need to get out there as Biafrans and Catalonias are doing and sensitize the world. You can't just wake up one day to mobilize people to form a nation. Just saying the bitter truth.

As for seaport, biafrans will develop ugbaku seaport in Southern Abia state. It is only 30 nautical miles from the sea.

There has been no objection to the proposed Niger Deltan republic as far as I know by any SS group (Igboid and non-Igboid).

Moreover, you should know that NDDC still comprises of representatives from Edo and Cross River states despite both states not producing oil. Niger Delta right now is beyond oil, and while I can't entirely rule out tribes having grievances, maybe even a civil war, I am very optimistic about the prospects of NDR.

There's still a lot of sensitization to do, our leaders haven't been impressive, and our youths could use a lot of pep talk. And you're right that Biafrans, Catalonias, Scots and many other non-nation states seeking independence would be able to hit the ground running faster than the NDR.

Nonetheless, I'm awed by how far we've come, considering that even before there was a Niger Delta, we already had someone fighting for resource control (Borro). This was at a time that the present day SS was divided between the Mid-West and the old Eastern region. The Ibibios, Anangs and the rest of the ethnicities in Akwa Ibom and Cross River adopted the SS identity immediately after the civil war without any coercion.

And for an agitation that came into full force, uniting all the ethnicities in the region, in the 90s, we've come a long way.

Every country had birth pains and it'd be foolish to believe NDR wouldn't have its own birth pains, should the republic materialize. The strength in our diversity is the cord that'd keep us going.

-Lord

blues2022:

There is more to it.... I'll save this post and brood over it...

I'll like to read your submission on this. Maybe there's something I'm missing.

-Lord

WeNigerDelta:


Bros I think we are being myopic when we say the Igbos don't really bring much to the table. My believe is their merits outweighs their demerits of us going together. This is why;

First everyone knows what we bring to the table, our resources, land and ports. If we have full control of our resources and lands like they are proposing, we can build our region to the world class standard we dream of, make sure every child of the region have the best education money can afford and make our coasts tourist attractions.

After that, what next? What will our economy be based on when we are done building? Tourism and oil alone like Dubai? The Emirate's look for where to invest their money every day all around the world now that they are done building on a super massive scale.

We can't lie to ourselves and not admit the Igbos are ahead of most Africans when it comes to science and tech or reengineering. If we invest part of our oil proceeds there, we can have a very decent technological hub that none in Africa can rival.

Also Nolloywood, they are already adding a significant part to Naija's economy. They we go together we invest to increase the quality and it will keep adding more to the economy.

Third, our seaports will be a lot busier with them. And thus will lead to more thriving coastal and riverine communities. Also if we decide to get a national carrier "airline", their traveling population will make sure it's a success.

All I'm saying is we should actually look at the merits and demerits with open hearts. I believe if you give the UAE an opportunity to add a technological, nolloywood size movie sector and an increase importing to their economy they will bite your hands off for it. Like you've said and those of us in the region know, we don't hate the Igbo's.

You make valid points, and certainly when the time comes for a split, I believe there'd be a lot of discourse about the merits and demerits of joining Biafra or staying on our own in the ND. Everyone will bring their opinion and in the end hopefully a referendum or body of educated and influential Niger Deltans comprehensively representing every interest in the SS will make the choice.

For the moment tho', you should know that in spite of any shortcoming, any country that wants to become developed will be able to do so.

The fact is that, no matter how well we structure Biafra for the sake of equality, the states that form the present day Niger Delta will always play second fiddle to the core SE states. The UK revolves around England. Trinidad and Tobago revolves around Trinidad. Bosnia and Herzegovina revolved around Bosnia. I could keep going.

You mentioned science, tech, and engineering as their strong suit. That is not a fact to be argued, but it doesn't mean we can't play catch-up. Especially since we have the credible tertiary institutions, the money, and a rising number of educated people. Of course, we wouldn't really get to their point, but we don't have to. And if we have to invest our money, it's easy, the NDR will have a sovereign fund. Saudi Arabia, China, Norway, UAE each have funds with Billions of dollars that they invest in tech companies from the US to Estonia and even Kenya.

The same tech hub that can be cited in Nnewi or Aba can be cited in PH or Warri.

About Nollywood, there would not be Nollywood once Nigeria splits. It'd be a competition between Lagos in Oduduwa, Abuja in the Arewa, and Enugu in the Biafra. Of course we could stay with Biafra and try to improve the quality of Ndigbowood or whatever it'd be called then, but I really don't see how that helps us. Whether we stay or not, the SE would make it top quality.

And about the seaport, we don't need to stay in the same country with them to make them use our ports more. Netherlands is a really small country but handle the chunk of the world's shipping. All we have to do in NDR is make our ports world-class and compete with the already established ports in the SW (Oduduwa). Since we already have oil money we can slash rates, invest big in our ports, increase capacities, and give the SW a run for their money, not just for the Biafra but for Arewa, the rest of West Africa and East Africa. The Igbos are capitalists, they'd do business at our ports if we give them a good deal, it doesn't matter whether we are Niger Deltans, Fulanis or even Aliens.

I know I'm sounding a little too confident or may remotely pass off as cocky. But the Igbos and many of the Ethnic groups in the SS are egotistic and from where I sit, I don't think the relationship will be as fluidic as the proposed Biafra (with SS as a part of it) will be.

And what we would actually bring are resources (oil, land, access to coastal ports...) not exactly money or talent or anything else, they've got much of those. In my opinion, I'd rather we be a Qatar (or UAE) than a Scotland.

Of course, these are my humble submissions and not representative of the entire SS region. When the time comes, we'd have a more concrete discussion in-house about the merits and demerits of a Biafra instead of a NDR (although I think that ship sailed when agitation for NDR started).

-Lord

blues2022:

If all non Igbo speaking South South thinks in this format, it will be a win win for us all. I guess its the high time you guys quit the name calling and land grabbing tags. Its like creating phantom enemy where non exist.... after all, if both states becomes reality, they will definitely end up as neighbors.

If wishes were horses eh!

The name calling is often from over-ambitious SSerners who feel threatened when some elements in the SE lump SS into Biafra. Such generalizations, intentional or not, are frowned upon by non-Igboid SS groups, mostly because it's seen as the first step into something that may grow messy if left unchecked.

Cross River and Akwa Ibom were drawn into the civil war simply by association. And the old Mid-West was railroaded simply because why the hell not.

So you can pardon the excesses even though it stokes animosity that doesn't really exist. Maybe if it's possible for everyone in the SE to respect the fact that we in the SS do not see ourselves having a future in Biafra, then you can be rest assured that the name calling will cease.

But since the generalizations and the resultant name calling only arise from a small percentage of the people in either regions, I don't think you should be worked up about the name calling.

To show you that the name calling and land grabbing tags are not born out of seething hate (unlike is the case when folks from the SW and North make the same reference), it'd interest you to know that within the SS, some tribes (for example the Urhobos) call some tribes land grabbers (for example the Ijaws). Yet when push comes to shove, we all come together as one region to fight for a common cause, whether it is more recognition, increased derivation, resource control, true federalism or something else.

NDR and Biafra will undoubtedly be better neighbors than NDR and Nigeria (or Arewa or Oduduwa) should a split happen. This much every SS group knows (Igboid or non-Igboid). And it's why the release of Kanu made the list of NDA requests. We all just have to ascertain some ground rules on who and/or what constitutes Biafra (excluding SS of course).

-Lord

blues2022:

Excellent submission... though with skewed data... But what is your take on the Igboid South South e.g Delta Igbo? Do you think they will ditch Biafra to join your supposed NDR? How about groups like Omuma, Etche, Ndoki, Egbema that are Igbo speaking littered in South South.....? Are you also saying they hold the same sentiment towards Biafra?

The only solidarity IPOB has received from the SS are from these Igboid groups in the SS. Which is why protests happen in Asaba and Port Harcourt.

It'd be foolish for any SS ethnic group to believe that the SS Igboid groups do not have sentiments for Biafra. After all, of all the ethnic groups in the old Mid-Western region, only the Igboid groups were killed during the Asaba massacre.

Nonetheless, the SS has fully catered to the interests of the Igboid groups in the region. So, if anything, the Igboid SS groups are spoiled for choice on who to go with. As both the NDR and Biafra would be happy to have them.

Therefore, it's hard to say for certain as I would for non-Igboid SS groups that make up 90% of SS, that the Igboid SS groups will or will not join Biafra. It's a choice they'll have to make, and I can assure you these groups have enough clout in the SS to say they want to join Biafra without fear or intimidation and such request will be honored.

And since I'm not from any of those groups, I can't speak for them.

-Lord

Fremancipation:


That's fine my brother as long as your south south doesn't include Igbo groups in it, you can say or do whatever you like. You have my support.

Oga, everybody will be free to choose.

The people will decide.

Igboid groups have ruled Rivers almost consecutively since 1999.

The present governor of Delta is from an Igboid group.

And I know the Biafra movements in the SS which are restricted to the Igboid groups in Rivers and Delta may decide to tag along with you guys depending on how deep the referendum will go (although I seriously doubt it because a Niger Delta Republic guarantees them everything and more than they'd ever get in Biafra).

It's their choice. It'd only mean that new boundaries will be set.

It doesn't and would not change anything.

The love, respect, and acceptance non-Igboid groups give to Igboid groups in the SS is an epitome of the legendary hospitality and understanding nature that pervades the SS region. So, no one would carry arms to force Igboid groups to stay. They wield enough political power to decide where they want to be.

Where there'd be a problem is if they decide to stay in the SS, and the SE tries to forcefully annex them. It will not be tolerated. But I'm doubtful it'd ever get to that extent.

-Lord

oluxy:
Nice bill.


We also need death sentence for any looter as d guy above me said.

No matter the amount, 98% all the looter belongings/properties etc should go back to the govt, d remnant 2% to orphanage homes.
We need this bill asap

Actually, 2% should go back to the govt, the remaining 98% should be use for charity.

Trust Nigerian government at your own peril.

-Lord

paschu:
My brother, the country is a text book case study of a modern extractive and exclusive political and economic system. Nothing for the general masses - they are all there to be exploited by the system. Only few manage to break loose from the oppression and that's by there own sheer dogededness as opposed to any leverage from the system. I'm a first hand example. The Nigerian system is designed to oppress the weak.

I couldn't agree more. I'm also a first hand example.

-Lord

ceaz4r:



I really don't believe the name the new nation will bear is the problem. They are just changing goal posts in the middle of the game. Before now, it was 'Igbo are land grabbers'. We don't want Biafra, we want 'Resource Control'. 'Igbo man cannot be trusted'. Now it is, Change the name from Biafra to something else. We will soon be hearing, 'who will be the first President of the new nation?' Someone has even asked 'what will be the National Language?'


Seriously, this people are not serious!!

We are in a nasty situation together and we are saying let's escape together to a place. Instead of them to say FINE, LET'S DO IT!! They are there saying they don't like the name of the place we want to Escape to?' 'What language will we speak when we get there?' Watch it, someone will come here and start saying our currency should not be Biafran Pounds; it should be changed.

You can not just take one person's opinion and use it as a generic opinion for a region with over 100 different ethnicities. It is not proper.

95% of the people that constitute the SS today will not join Biafra. This is not hearsay. Even SS people living in the SE do not want SS to join Biafra.

Of course we can explore history but it wouldn't do justice. I'll write a little excerpt tho'.

Four of the present SS states--Bayelsa, Rivers, Cross River, Akwa Ibom, were under the old Eastern region that became Biafra. The other two SS states--Delta and Edo--that made up the Mid-West region were swiftly conquered by the rampaging Biafra soldiers in the beginning of the civil war.

None of the ethnic groups in the four old Biafran SS states were consulted before Ojukwu took their sons to war. Ojukwu forcefully annexed the remaining two Nigerian SS states.

So, you can't actually look at the SS with a straight face and ask us to join Biafra with those antecedents.

If the SS joins the SE, we'd have another Nigeria again where Igbos are the majority calling the shot and every other tribe gets to struggle over the crumbs.

But as I said, history doesn't exactly do justice to the reason why SS will NEVER join Biafra.

The major reason is economic reason. There is NOTHING the Igbos can add to us that we wouldn't get if we went our separate ways.

In fact, the SS brings more into any supposed union that the SE would.

The SS is at least twice the size of the SE, has more resources, has access to the coastal waters, amongst others. We have everything we need, and we already have a large number of ethnic groups with varying interests that we attend to; we can't add the volatile Igbo to that mix.

This may seem offensive, but Biafra will be a liability to the SS, because the demerits outweigh the gains (whatever they are).

How about Igbos fight for Biafra themselves. If you guys get it, then great.

If Nigeria will divide peacefully, I'm sure every SS state will have the opportunity to decide if they want Nigeria (or Oduduwa), Biafra, or Niger Delta Republic. Deep down you know the option each SS state will pick.

Burying your head in the sand in a blatant show of denial won't change it.

So, don't flip anything on the SS, we've had our taste of Biafra, and it sure as hell wasn't pretty.

-Lord

darknetcom:


thats why i say you have to have patience..

i am a professional construction worker with certificate internationaly..i work for big nigerian companies part time..

i can save easily.....

i choose the right profession..

i dont know what you learned..

maybe you are a doctor,i dont know..in that case you must think different than me to succed..

i dont give advice for free normaly i sell my advice..

and i have costumers..

Everyone on this thread, every Nairalander, please join me to lay hands on this person!

Oga I doubt you have an International certificate, because you lack comprehension skills. In fact, how u tk pass jamb?

The question is:

What are you benefiting as a Nigerian citizen?

And you're talking SH*T (no offense).

@OP, there is NO benefit to being a Nigerian citizen.

Becoming a Nigerian citizen is an everlasting burden no one deserves but we have to carry because we were UNFORTUNATE to be born in this country.

Anyone with a contrary view can quote me, let me analyze your worthless life and that of this VERY STUP*D country.

-Lord

modath:


You think people aren't keeping scores? Or don't know what to do when the time comes?

It's not by scores. The person who formulated the idiom "strike when the iron is hot" is not a fool.

Buhari has created a false (albeit very reliable) impression that he is INFALLIBLE. When one tells a lie for too many times, it becomes the truth.

And that plus complete control of the nation's security and electoral structure will give him the presidency on a platter of silver in 2019. All these scores will count for nothing even if you (a diehard Buharist) choose to in good conscience campaign against him tomorrow.

-Lord

modath:

{Not dropping Diezani & Abba Moro are nos 1 & 2 for sure, the two scandals cemented their persona non grata status. There is a time for "friendship/protectionism " & there is a time for being decisive & strategic thinking / planning }

Has Buhari dropped Abba Kyari (MTN N500m bribe), SGF (N270m misappropriation), Dambauzzau, and Buratai (Dubai houses)?

When PDP does it, it is wrong. When APC does it, it is OKAY!

Diezani and Abba Moro were not the specific reasons why PDP lost in 2015.

Just like despite Amaechi's brazen looting and Tinubu's looting, APC still won in 2015.

PDP has imprisoned more PDP members than APC has done to APC members.

So you have no MORAL right to accuse PDP of favoritism or protectionism.

-Lord

Buhari is MORE CORRUPT than OBJ, Yar'Adua and GEJ combined.

I'll tell you why:

On May 20, 2015, GEJ approved the 2015 Budget. The budget was 4.5 trillion naira.

On May 29, 2015 (9 days later) Buhari was sworn in.

In December 2015, Senate approved 0.57 trillion naira supplementary budget.

In total, Buhari received N5 trillion naira in 2015.

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On May 6, 2016, Buhari approved the 2016 Budget. The budhet was 6 trillion naira.

On October 25, 2016, Buhari requested for an additional 1 trillion naira supplementary budget. [Considering that the Senate only reduced the main budget from 6.08 to 6.06 despite the public outcry, it's almost certain that Buhari will get this extra 1 trillion in December].

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In total, between May 29 and today November 29 (18 months--1 yr and 6 months), Buhari has received N11 trillion naira.

My fellow country men and women, aside the

1. N150b monthly wage bill for FG employees (N2.7 Trillion)
2. The N2.5 trillion for debt servicing (in 2015 and 2016)
3. Budget for National Assembly (N150b in 2015 and N115b in 2016 - N265b in total)
4. Budget for Judiciary (N73b in 2015 and N70b in 2016 - N143b in total)
5. Release of N200b for road construction (whether all that money actually went to the contractors, nobody knows).

Which is a total of 5.75 trillion;

What did BUHARI and his merry band of "touch-not-my-anointed" looters use 5.25 trillion naira for?

You cannot have INTEGRITY without ACCOUNTABILITY.

Yet, this VERY CORRUPT man that used 16 SANs to quash a court case requesting for his certificate (when he simply could just dust a copy and provide it in court or release it in the public domain like Obama) is attempting to borrow $30b (N9.5 trillion as at today with official exchange rate) WITHOUT AN ECONOMIC PLAN.

This same UNEDUCATED RIFF-RAFF wants to present a budget in 7 DAYS time, when the 2017 MTEF and FSP that should guide same budget has been lambasted by the National Assembly, high-profile economists, and every right thinking NIGERIAN as been "UNREALISTIC," "NOT TRUTHFUL," and "STUPID."

How can you present a budget when the MTEF and FSP are not being debated on the floor of the Nat'l Assembly (they were sent to a special committee to check through it before it would come to the floor of the House)?

So, this fantastically corrupt Buhari who cannot give account for over N5T, the billions of loots already recovered, cannot provide an economic blueprint for a $29.9b loan, cannot provide a holistic and realistic MTEF and FSP wants to hurriedly bring another N6T budget (most of which will be sourced by borrowing) and Nigerians are just looking at him like hypnotized people.

No president since 1999 has been this FINANCIALLY RECKLESS, ECONOMICALLY INEPT, and SHAMELESSLY CORRUPT!

Shame on the 15 million people that foisted this disaster on 180 million hardworking Nigerians.

-Lord

EternalTruths:
God forbid

We want something better than Vice Presidency

You had better manage the one you can get.

Although I'm not sure Buhari will skip Okorocha to pick Kalu. But anything is possible.

What is 60% certain right now is that Buhari will drop Osinbajo in 2019.

2019 is the year for SE VP. PDP has zoned VP to the region, and APC has apparently seen the viability in giving the VP slot to SE. That's one mistake Jonathan made, he should have dropped Sambo and picked Nuhu Ribadu as his running mate in 2015 (although I'm not sure that would have changed much).

-Lord

eniolaamoda:


[s]Who said we could not see d lord in ur name?[/s]

Gerrarrahia mehn!

We talkin' money, u talkin' nonsense.
~ Rick Ross 2012
QED

-Lord