triplechoice: I think it can only work for a few. Your case is different. You already had the capacity to critically examined what you use to believe. So it was easy to make the change.. Most people here don't have that advantage .They should be treated as humans and not derided for having a belief in a god
But I have to admit here that the op from what I can take from is post seem to be on the verge of abandoning his religious beliefs. Did you noticed the poignant questions he was asking all through.
That is it the right thing to go to a slave camp to free slaves with insults? is it proper to use extreme mockery to teach others what they do not kmoe ?
Forget the other things he was saying alongside it and just listen to him.
I have not seen anyone responding to that but only focusing on the negative things he said and I have to ask why? The resident Satanist even ran away to create another thread just to counter him.
Well, the op appears to be waking and I won't be surprised if he ends up becoming a non believer some day
His outbursts to me are evidences of someone whose mind is gradually coming alive. Maybe your method his working. or not working. Only time would tell
I have never mocked Hismasterpiece, our conversations have always been respectful. It is people like Dtruthspeaker who refuse to be reasonable in discussion I have a bone or 2 to pick with from time to time, as you can already see above.
Dtruthspeaker: In every place on the earth, in the past witches who harmed people were killed and homosexuals were also killed or cast out into Nature, For Nature to handle the Killing, even before the Bible was written.
So the Bible is simply sticking to The Laws at the Beginning of this world.
There we go, the religious nutjob has come to mark register.
triplechoice: Telling them so directly wouldn't change anything. They lack the awareness to understand what you're saying. They are indoctrinated and operating from that state.
Psychological studies has demonstrated the fact that no one who is truly indoctrinated or brainwashed is ever conscious of it. They have been programmed to act in a particular way and can only change when the have been deprogrammed. So it is of no use .
Or would you for any reason try to convince a suicide bomber who is at the point of detonating a suicide vest that it is unreasonable to do so ? And also wait to further call him a religion nutjob when you should escaping with your life? This an extreme example but I believe it would help you understand my position better
A religious nutjob should be avoided at any cost. One can only try to engage the moderates. Those are sometimes amenable to reason.
I understand your position, I just want it underlined that there exist reasons to mock people who hold certain beliefs especially if they are extreme. I believe that it is more about the context than the fact that they are being mocked. I personally avoid mocking people for being believers but will not hesitate to tongue lash those who I think deserve it for expressing stupìd ideas. It may do nothing to change their minds but it should give some others a pause and a chance to reason. I was once a believer in god but conversations both reasoned and heated gave me the impetus to really examine my beliefs. In fact they still do, I don't take my positions as written in stone.
Holybwoy: I mean.. I have never owned a BMW nor a Benz but from what I see on the road, a BMW is fine fine and fast fast..
I saw a 2014 over-sharp Nigerian used BMW car going for 1.9 million.. 2014!!! Is the seller mad? He's defo not a scam but is he crazy
a 2014 Benzo costs 5 times that price Nigerian used or not!
I am pained..
Before I settled for my mumu all for everyone camry 2011, I had a BMW in mind.. na mechanic tell me say NO NO..
No tangible reason ooo but I con dey fear..
Weyrey fit never even own proper honda accord for him life.
BMWs are very prone to devaluation hence their very low second hand value. Another reason is BMWs are very expensive to maintain and in a place like Nigeria with suboptimal maintenance technology, you are going be to caught between paying exorbitant fees at a dealership or payless for a trial by error mechanic.
I am afraid you're generalising. All atheist or non religious don't behave the same way. But I understand where you're coming from . It is obviously based on what you have experienced and observed here.
But the truth of the matter is that most are behaving that way because they are living their lives based on borrowed behavior. A fake life. That's how I like to describe it.
The foreign atheists whose behavior most of them are copying are from societies where nearly every single member is enlightened enough to know what is right from what is wrong. So it is expected that some, atheist especially, over there would mock you when you behave in a way they consider stupid or irrational .They expect you to know better than to believe in what they consider nonsense or fairy tales.
But on this side, there's no enough reason for anyone who is fortunate to be properly educated and better exposed to go about looking for less enlightened members of his society to insult and abuse simply because these other people insist at a particular point in their lives that they are more comfortable in believing in something rather than in nothing.
Well, I already mentioned that it is borrowed behavior. If not, what on earth would make anyone who claims to be a former Christian or Muslim turn back to make mockery of those that still believes forgetting that not too long ago he or she was equally a "slowpoke" or religious nut job.
It is an aberration . It's like a former prostitute who is now rehabilitated going back to the hotel she once worked to insult and mock others who are yet to have the opportunity to escape that life. It is really unfair and makes no sense whatsoever.
The proper attitude of a former believer who is really honest about helping others see what he now considers the "light" should be that of concern and understanding and not to take delight in mocking others at every given opportunity even when it is not called for.
If the person who trolls you online grew up as an atheist without having participated in any religious group before, then you should understand the reason for his behavior and not take offence. The person has not had your experience. So it is only natural that the individual would want to understand why you choose to believe in a God .He simply cannot get it no matter how you try to explain
People will always act based on what they know and have experienced. They can't behave otherwise. There are certain things in life that can only be completely understood by a direct experience of it. Nothing else would do.
But when the troll has had that religious experience and now pretends not to, then it is self deception. Don't waste your time .You're dealing with a fake person. Move away .The person already knows the answer to the question he or she is asking you about what you believe. There's no sincerity and you would be stupid to engage such a person. The person is looking for the opportunity to make you look stupid for what you choose to believe at this time
So please don't regard every atheist or non religious as the same. Not every atheist on ths section behave as you have described .We all can't be the same. Everyone has their own method
However, you on your part should also learn to respect what others choose to believe or not to believe. That's the only way we can all make for a harmonious relationship amongs the different groups that exist here..
Final word. Please don't regard me as a representative of any group. All I have said is from me alone. Others can choose to see things differently and they have the right to see things their own way.
Is someone who thinks it is acceptable to kill witches and homosexuals because their holy book says so a religious nut job or not?
To be considered athiestic, one simply need to show lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Christians do not lack a belief in the existence of God and they also do not lack belief in the existence of gods(they refer to them as demons and devils), the other 99%!
You do like to play these pointless semantic games don't you. I ask you for a cake and you bring me bread insisting that because they are are made from the same ingredients and baked in the same oven then they are the same. Bread is not cake just like gods are not demons. You don't believe in a god called Zeus whether you believe in a demon called Zeus is even debatable but the clear fact is you don't believe in certain gods, your attempts at reclassification are pointless.
Kobojunkie: As I already made clear, what you call gods are nothing but demons and devils to us. So the one you call Zeus, is of demons and devils.
Then you don't believe a god called Zeus exists. No need for this rigmarole. Gods are not demons by definition so this semantic game you're playing is just pointless.
Hismasterpiece: Dear atheists, you say there is no God. That is literally what atheist means: 'A Theos' which is the original greek word which means 'No God'.
You claim to be enlightened and more reasonable and logical and in your right mind unlike us religious people (not really religious people in general, more like Christians because that is the religion you people speak against the most in this section).
But i believe you guys are wicked. My reason being this. You see yourselves as being free and we religious as being enslaved. You see yourselves as being in your right mind and we religious as being out of our minds.
But in your wickedness you have left us all to our slavery and our insanity. Rather than reaching out to us in love and reasoning with us thoughtfully in order to bring us out of our deception and slavery you bash us, insult us, shame us, laugh at us in our wretched condition.
I don't believe you atheists really believe the things you claim to believe. If you really did, it would show. There is no aggressive effort being made by atheists to get the word out and deliver us poor theists out of our bondage. But the Christians who believe what they claim are aggressively spreading the word. Various radio stations and programs, various books and video and audio resources being used to spread the message but the same can't be said about atheists. How many atheist radio stations are there spreading the word about atheism and liberating people? How many Billy Grahams are there in atheism? How many Martin Luthers (both of them)? How many Oyedepos? How many apostle Pauls? How many mother Theresas? How many Andrew Wommacks? How many John Wesleys? How many D L Moodys? How many Kenneth Hagins?
If someone sees his neighbors house on fire and rather than rush and help them put out the fire and evacuate people from the house just walks on by and heads home without showing any concern at all, is that person a good person? If instead of helping them he begins to criticize them publicly and starts accusing them of being careless and stupid and idiotic and uneducated would that be fair? or kind? or good?
That is exactly what you atheists do. You people are selfish and want to enjoy your freedom alone while us religious folk suffer in chains. You show us no love or compassion. Rather than correct us lovingly and put us in the right path you shame us and try to make us look stupid for believing in what we believe in.
I don't believe this is fair treatment. The Christian believes the non-christian is going to hell, and in love he tells him and puts him in the right path. The atheist believes the theist is enslaved in his mind and out of his mind and rather than liberate him he attacks him. That is wickedness, pure wickedness.
Instead of making posts that logically and systematically explain atheism and why it is the right worldview, while logically refuting the claims of all religions step by step, you guys make posts mocking people who you claim to be in bondage rather than helping them lovingly.
You people are wicked.
Abraham Lincoln saw slaves and believed they shouldn't be slaves. And what did he do? shame them? mock them? no, he freed them. I believe that if you people really believe what you claim you should do the same.
Good evening.
Unlike your beliefs there is no eternal consequence to your persistence in continuing in your beliefs for the atheist so he has no obligation to save you except may be to save you from destroying others by your beliefs. You on the other hand believe wholeheartedly that we shall end up in hell, a place of torment for eternity but you sit in your house have your 3 square meals, watch TV, browse the Internet become bored and go to bed, sparing no thought for those you claim are going to suffer. Shouldn't you be spending every minute of everyday attempting to save people from this hell? Are you not more wicked according to your own criteria? If you truly believed in hell you'd be crying and wailing everyday begging people to be saved but you don't do that because you are very wicked (according to you).
hupernikao: I always think they say atheists are intelligent people. These days, I am beginning to see lazy and unintelligent assumptions and conclusions from Atheists.
The author of the above write up needs proper education. When you take the general opinion around you to judge the whole, it is a sign of low intelligence.
Attacking a belief system isn't a smart thing either. Presenting top class argument is what intelligent people do. It seems atheists with such intelligence are now converted to what they once crucified as it is hard to find one today.
Just thinking....
Who are the intelligent atheists that have been converted?
To be considered athiestic, one simply need to show lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Christians do not lack a belief in the existence of God and they also do not lack belief in the existence of gods(they refer to them as demons and devils), the other 99%!
eplanning: Those black Australia aboriginals are not Bantus (Israelites). They don't have our DNA. Today, those they refer to as native Americans are a whited-out population. Many are the children of rape by the invading white population. Europe is where ROME (Edom) is, the red dragon and the BEAST of revelation. They still call the shots behind the scenes. And the information about blacks in Europe is not freely available, that's why you don't have them. And its deliberately done.
Same thing they did with Egypt, replacing indigenous black populations with a mixed, whitish one. When they wrote those books they didn't have the negro in mind. For them, they were already a conquered people. After generations of slavery majority had lost the ability to read or write. That's what the Inquisition was about. It was followed immediately by the transsaharan and transatlantic slave trade and continues till this day through neocolonialism.
We are their greatest fear, because of the prophecies they know were written about us and the end of this age. They know Jacob is prophesied to rule in the end while Esau/Edom for slavery. So they do everything to prevent that from happening. WATCH: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyW9I6wiQ1A
So, it's called ethnic cleansing. You saw where it said they were expelled from Europe. Have you even read about the inquisition? We are the children of Isaele/Israel and these things were already written about us. And as you continue to resist the truth, you or your people might suffer the same fate as others in the country you call Nigeria at the hands of those who are bent in conquering the indigenous peoples. So that centuries after you will hear another brainwashed negro claim that Fulani are the actual owners of Nigeria. Just like they've done to the Hausas.
When I said all humans can be traced to Africa you were happy but now that I brought up something that destroys your narrative suddenly you want to claim there is no DNA similarities. BTW you are dead wrong. Australian aborigines can be traced by DNA to migration out of Africa.
Your narrative is so full of holes it's worse than a discarded rag rats have eaten. What do you have to defend yourself with if they choose nuclear weapons or other WMDs as the method? Nothing. If anyone is resisting the truth it is you with these your cockamime half baked conspiracies that have no head or tail. Anyway continue to enjoy your delusion, I am done here.
eplanning: Okay, small small you are coming around. Didn't we grow up reading books with white adam and eve? Why didn't they tell the truth?
Anyways, this thread is a about King James who was a black European. And yes, Indigenous ...otherwise you will have to remove many white populations and send them back to the caves of caucasus mountains to be even. Because it was the blacks who brought them out and civilized them, integrating them into society. Plus the abominable genetic mixing etc. that went on. It has been scientifically proven that all white people have neanderthal genes in them.
And besides the bantus who migrated to these lands, many Israelites [Bantus/negroes] were taken to Europe [Rome, Spain etc] right from the time of the Babylonian captivity in 597 BC [Note: True Ancient Babylon is the land of KUSH- Ethiopia, Nubia and even extending to Yemen].
My question was quite straightforward where is the evidence of an indigenous black European population. Australia had an indigenous black population and even though they were overtaken by Europeans the evidence still exists. Same thing with the Americas having indigenous populations that we have evidence they existed despite European domination. How is it that when it comes to Europe and your claim suddenly we have to have these appeals to conspiracy and whatnot. The genetic similarities you are pointing out was not discovered by Africans but by people of European descent. If the goal was to wipe out traces of their similarities with Africans why would that information be freely available? Your conspiracies barely survive a cursory look and you have to make all these emotional outbursts as if those will change the nature of facts.
eplanning: I'm not posting because of you, I know you won't stop, but for those who might be misled seeing a negro desperately fighting to defend slavemasters' lies.
The sources say the present inhabitants have no genetically connection with the earliest inhabitants who actually have a connection with those of sub-saharan Africa (the Israelites). Even the earliest Greeks were said to be related genetically to those in sub-saharan Africa (Israelites) rather than the present inhabitants of Europe.
And just in case you are wondering and want to continue arguing blindly, the bantus (children of Israel) were scattered among the Greeks. The early Greeks and Romans (who were black by the way) made strong inroads into Africa, even as far as southern Africa. The Bantus (Israelites) were in captivity under both of these kingdoms. That captivity is still on till today if you must know. We were all brainwashed educated by the slavemasters and the fruit is what you are manifesting here ...fighting to defend Massa.
Go back far enough and we know that all modern humans emerged from Africa. But this isn't what you are talking about is it.
eplanning: By the time the ancient kingdoms of the world, including those you read about in the bible (Egypt, Babylon, Greece etc) were established, white people were still living in caves, eating flesh. Their history only began in about 500bc. Right from Adam, all indigenous populations around the world were black and brown people.
Where is your evidence that there were black indigenous Europeans.
jesusjnr2020: My heart is beating for the safety of your family members, because there's no limit to the evil blood sucking demons can use a man to do.
Every we keep hearing about how a family member of a witch or satanist was used for brutally killed and used for rituals. It would not happen to your family members in Jesus name!
Now say amen to that prayer, if it's that not your plan for your family.
Enjoying the delicious lunch my lovely MIL made for me. LMFAO!
jesusjnr2020: I have evidence you're an upcoming and aspiring ritual killer, because you're currently learning the trade of witchcraft and all witches and satanists are ritual killers.
Maybe in court you'd confess the level you are now in your new diabolic trade, if you've started using your family members for rituals, since you refused to say it here.
Very good. You'll get your chance. Fugazy Clown. LMFAO
KnownUnknown: You are doing the lord’s work with your intercourses on this forum. I couldn’t do what you do.
You’re arguing with people that use painting of the “three wise men”’of the nativity as evidence for African born royalty in Europe.
People who claim an African American is King James of England
People who use obvious forgeries as arguments
People who think slavery is humane.
I salute you!!
Thanks but I am sure you'd be better at it than me. I have no appetite to write long statements trying to expose errors, I like to keep my communications here simple and short.
The foolish aggressor don dey claim victim, lol. Such a fool of the highest order.
Next time when the devil sends you to disturb me, you go tell am say "go to hell".
By the way, we need to save your family members before the blood sucking demon in you begins to unleash mayhem on them. Thanks in anticipation for your cooperation.
You will get your chance to prove that I am a satanist and ritualist in court na. No fear, shey you have evidence that I am a ritualist abi. Let's go there. LMFAO!
jesusjnr2020: I would have if i was sure she was the one calling not a ritual killer in the making, but I would no longer do so, since the line seems to be in the custody of a blood sucking demon-possessed soul.
Send me more numbers please, to save more family lives. Thanks.
LMFAO! I thought you said you are not afraid? See his heart beating gidigbam because he thinks he'll be jazzed over the phone. Dundee united. Bwahahahahaha!
eplanning: The problem with you poorly (western) educated folk is that you are satisfied with the lies they told you. To you, it's all about how well you can google up the lies they've made readily available for you. How many of you can pay thousands of dollars for old books or journals? The secrets are in the ancient sources.
You are showing me screenshots from an online source and forming scholar with a personal library. LoL
jesusjnr2020: Why would I want to speak with someone who is learning and training on how to be mindlessly killing innocent souls and using them for rituals?
I asked for their numbers so I could warn them about you since you've become a real threat to their existence and well being.
So please shut the hell up and give me more of their numbers so I could warn all of them. Every one of them is now an endangered life thanks to your newly found craft.
And also remember to report yourself to the nearest police station or come here for deliverance, because those blood sucking demons must be stopped before they begin to do damage.
By the way, is it really your MIL's number you gave me or your own, because I expected to be hearing from her not the aspiring ritual killer I wanted to warn her about.
jesusjnr2020: Nice, but I pray for that you don't end up using her for lunch soon. Nothing is impossible with mindless ritual killers.
I'm waiting for more numbers witch and ritual killer to be, that's if you're not already one.
Don't worry I will send you more so you can set yourself up for a libel lawsuit. LMFAO!
Christianity Etc › Re: You Are 99% Atheist by LordReed(m): 11:17am On Oct 21, 2021
