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you in particular seem to interest me with what you posted below, you know too much about the "Errors" of Yahweh.
I want you in particular to educate my ignorance about Yahweh. Considering this your post that is:

(you had said this to someone else)

macof: josh you are really foolish, I thought you were just a mislead and slaved African, I never realized you are dumb and ur brain works like that of a sheep.

honestly well reading ur comments I got so angry I could punch u if you were in my presence, what kind idiot are u?

You read that op and still can't realize the stupidity behind christianity and the evil of Yahweh.

I pity ur soul, because foolish as forever been imprinted on it.

very interesting. So, come on, educate and clear my ignorance about Yahweh, then you can proceed to "puch" me for my foolishness, am waiting. Thank you.

loveroftruth: It is always easy to pass erroneouse judgements when one is devoid of all the facts of a matter.

When Yahweh abandoned Eve in the garden of eden, and Eve started applying the counsel of Satan, all of her offspring hence have been under the rulership of satan, just as all of her offspring would have been under the rulership of Yahweh had she listen to the voince of Yahweh and obeyed it. That failue led to the abandonment of Eve and her subsequent children.

Ever since, all mankind except few, have been under the control of satan, and they all in there respective part of the world have evolve ways of worship as directed by the ruler of the world satan, though through the priest of those nations.

However, man still dies, and certain men tried to be faultless and practice rigtheouse and hence Yahweh related with such men and made promises that would eventual re-reconcile man in general back to Yahweh,

pending that reconciliation, all nations kept on walking in there usual standard as allowed by the current rular satan.

Such ^^ led to this promise to Abraham Below:


"by means of your seed, all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; because you have obeyed my voice."
(Genesis 22:18).
............................................................................................. While that promise of all nation benefiting themself is pending till the 'seed' arrives, the rules of engagement remains the same, showing how capable satan is and his rulership will be used as a basis to Judge him and to compare with the rulership by Yahweh that Eve rejected.

While the nation to produce the seed is growing, certain consideration were made to the sons of Israel that have learned certain traits from the neighbours around them and the experiences they got from Egypt, and their hard heartedness, and moses let them have it as long as it does not twart the altimate goal of producing the messiah that will "set matters streight".

See this allowances made to the Israelites here :

"They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts Allowed you to put away your wives:
but from the beginning it was not so. " (Matthew 19:7-.
.............................................................................................. Now, that ^ allowance was not part of Yahwehs plans, but the Jews wanted it since other nations does it, for their sturbonness, Moses let them have it, same with having slave, it was an existing norms and the seed has not come yet to correct all the errors that the ruler(satan) has introduce to mankind(exploitation) under his watch.

When the messaiah comes and reconciles all men back to Yahweh, we will have this :


"And it shall come to pass
in the last days,
that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and
all nations
shall go unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law,
and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall set matters streight respecting many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. " (Isaiah 2:2-5).
.............................................................................
"That ^ in the final part of the days".

pending that ^^^ period, it is an error to input blames on Yahweh. The primary purpose of the nation of Israel was to produce the Messiah. The messiah came and gave the way forward.

by means of your seed, all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; because you have obeyed my voice.

It is always easy to pass erroneouse judgements when one is devoid of all the facts of a matter.

When Yahweh abandoned Eve in the garden of eden, and Eve started applying the counsel of Satan, all of her offspring hence have been under the rulership of satan, just as all of her offspring would have been under the rulership of Yahweh had she listen to the voince of Yahweh and obeyed it. That failue led to the abandonment of Eve and her subsequent children.

Ever since, all mankind except few, have been under the control of satan, and they all in there respective part of the world have evolve ways of worship as directed by the ruler of the world satan, though through the priest of those nations.

However, man still dies, and certain men tried to be faultless and practice rigtheouse and hence Yahweh related with such men and made promises that would eventual re-reconcile man in general back to Yahweh,

pending that reconciliation, all nations kept on walking in there usual standard as allowed by the current rular satan.

Such ^^ led to this promise to Abraham Below:


"by means of your seed, all the nations of the earth shall be blessed; because you have obeyed my voice."
(Genesis 22:18).
............................................................................................. While that ^^^ promised of all nation benefiting themself is pending till the 'seed' arrives, the rules of engagement remains the same, showing how capable satan is and his rulership will be used as a basis to Judge him and to compare with the rulership by Yahweh that Eve rejected.

While the nation to produce the seed is growing, certain consideration were made to the sons of Israel that have learned certain traits from the neighbours around them and the experiences they got from Egypt, and their hard heartedness, and moses let them have it as long as it does not twart the altimate goal of producing the messiah that will "set matters streight".

See this allowances made to the Israelites here :

"They say unto him(Jesus), Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away?
He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts Allowed you to put away your wives:
but from the beginning it was not so. " (Matthew 19:7-.
.............................................................................................. Now, that ^ allowance was not part of Yahwehs plans, but the Jews wanted it since other nations does it, for their sturbonness, Moses let them have it, same with having slave, it was an existing norms and the seed has not come yet to correct all the errors that the ruler(satan) has introduce to mankind(exploitation) under his watch.

When the messaiah comes and reconciles all men back to Yahweh, we will have this :


"And it shall come to pass
in the last days,
that the mountain of the LORD’S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and
all nations
shall go unto it. And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob;
and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law,
and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall set matters streight respecting many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. " (Isaiah 2:2-5).
.............................................................................
"That ^ in the final part of the days".

pending that ^^^ period, it is an error to input blames on Yahweh. The primary purpose of the nation of Israel was to produce the Messiah. The messiah came and gave the way forward.

striktlymi: Hey guys,

I went through the other thread and observed that you guys are about to vote on what the winner(s) get(s). Um, before we all get too carried away with this, let's have it in mind that the FP thingy may not work because whatever thread goes there is squarely dependent on the decisions of the Supermods and Admin.

Please let's not make a 'rule' that will constitute a promise we won't be able to keep. If you guys feel strongly about this FP reward for the winner(s) then I strongly suggest that the supermods be briefed and a commitment gotten from them. But note that a commitment to do that for this section may also mean granting similar 'favours' to other sections. This may be a constraint.


#Think about it guys and great job by the way.

Now that ^ observation is spot on, and you spoke my mind.

That suggestion is one that maynot fly, why ?
Asking that a topic by all winners be sent to the front page irrespective of the content and impact on the reputation of the forum and Seuns business is not quite being considerate.

Again, like you rightly observed, why wount such rewards be given to posters of other sections that won ?
Is this suggestion not demanding that certain post be sent to the FP irrespective of its content, how wise is that ?

Guys, be considerate jore.

well, like you said, again, sample the opinion of the supermod first, and get s(he) green light and if yes, what conditions will be attached etc.

What if amongst the winners, there is a poster without a front page worthy thread in his stock ? Will he go preparing another for front page ? Lots of things to look into.

Cheers guys.

HumbledbYGrace: Nobody pointed your name out right

Yeah, he was talking to himself then according to you.

Divepen: If a christain start getting angry or start using abusive word which christ is that christain portrayin
because a section of Nairaland decide to vote and someone rigged it or is tryin to manipulate it-accordin to u....
Does dat mean u shud make it a do or die case...
If u win..glory b to God ; if Not glory to God....
Let us portray the christ that lives in us.....
IRE OOOO

Yeah, he was talking to himself according to humble by grace.

You better send him to a doctor then, since you know that he talks to himself like that. "christians" honesty.


Take care.

HumbledbYGrace: Nobody pointed your name out right

Smh.

Why are you doing this ?
Why are you patronising me ?

Do i have to reproduced that post for you to tell me who he was refering to ?

Always be just in your dealings.

If your conscience tells you he was not refering to me, then good and fine, however, if you are bent in shielding injustice, i will leave you to have it your own way.

Have a nice day. Smh.

HumbledbYGrace: your post wasn't related to the topic/op.

@Madam moderator. HBG
Good day.

someone accussed me falsely of abusing someone, and i asked the person to show proof of me abusing someone.

You decided to hide my post and let the false accusation to stay so that the wrong accusation can remain, is that right ?

By your actiong, do you wish i go back to that thread and reply him again ? tying it to the award ? Or you will do the right thing and hide the false accusation and we move on ?

His false accusation has the effect of watering down my complaint, i supposed you are aware of that ?

Please, as a moderator, dont by your action incite us against one another.

If you will not unhide my post, then the least you can do is to hide the false accusation on my person, else, let my post be and let him proof that i abused anyone on that thread, i dont wish to go there and ask him again.

Thanks.

@moderators.
Good day to you all.

Just a little observation and complaint.
My post below @Divepen on the general award thread by strikelyme has been hidden, can you kindly enlighten me on which of the rules it bridged ?

I am of the view that Divepen statement was directed at my person, hence the reply.

Below this post here on page 18

A little clarification does no harm.

Thank you

This is exactly why i said i will not reply to all this attack being displayed here.

Emotion blinds one from the point/post under consideration i replied to

this was the question ?

Deep Sight:
Why the different rules then regarding foreigners.

that question was pointing out that Yahweh is partial, hence my reply, that that samething had happend to the Israelites and he(DS) conveniently ignored it only to pick at this. Simple!

Can ye all kindly go back and read again the post again with context ? Smh.

And desist from assumming that your attitude will be contagious to all instead of understanding/reading inbetween the lines.

*why am i doing this sef ? *

On you lot, its a wasted effort.

loveroftruth: You must be myopic or blind this time.
Maybe that shortsightedness is why you are still a deist.

Were you blind to the part of the Bible where the same Yahweh said the sons of Abraham would be in slavery in a foreign land(Egypt) for about 400yrs ? Why did you not complain about that ^ ?

What you should add to your knowlege of Yahweh is that there is "no injustice with him".

Do you think he sees buying labour or hiring labour aka slave the way you do ?

Yahweh is not a human you know !

'Slave' thing can be a survival technique both ways you know ? Like the one in question, In an imperfect system i mean.

When the perfect system comes, all will enjoy, slavery was already in voke befor the nation of israel was formed. So, blame the 'ruler' of this current system and not Yahweh.

Open your eyes!

*sorry if i sounded personal

"Of judgment, because the RULER of this world is judged. " (John 16:11).

The ruler of this world is satan

striktlymi: Um...you forgot one small detail: The "50 Alfa bolt" thingy was meant to show why the "like" system of voting will not work. That actually is a plus for Alfa.

Dont patronised me, if you could not addressed that post and the issue that was pointed out dont attempt to cover the issue with sand.

Please, go back and read again and comprehend what i had wrote befor hastening to reply.

I pointed out that 'those' with "50 alfa bolt" will be able to send them in the voting proper due to the 'deliberate attempt' to create a slack rule for who will be qualify to vote during voting proper.

I just cant figure out why you replied the way you did. Please, feel free to ignore what you cant comprehend.

hyena hyena hyenas !!!

Sorry folks ! I cant address you guys except the op if need be.

Take care.

When a satanist is the umpire, what do you expect ?

Why will he not make the most important rule to be slact ?
Yes! So that there will be room for those with "50 alfa bolt" or more to send them and win best Religiouse poster of the year at the expence of the so call christians ? (he will call them "dump christians" )

If the date of registration is not addressed, then forget it. And it should not be allowed withing a periond when election is about to take place for newly registerd ID to think of coming to vote..

Is there no next year for newly registerd to vote ?

If someone was not here some six months or more, what will the value of who wins be to him ? Let alone someone that is not a regular poster?

You all can accept whatever you like from a satanist whose creed allows him to bend the rules to his fevour when it matters.

Deep Sight: Why the different rules then regarding foreigners.

You must be myopic or blind this time.
Maybe that shortsightedness is why you are still a deist.

Were you blind to the part of the Bible where the same Yahweh said the sons of Abraham would be in slavery in a foreign land(Egypt) for about 400yrs ? Why did you not complain about that ^ ?

What you should add to your knowlege of Yahweh is that there is "no injustice with him".

Do you think he sees buying labour or hiring labour aka slave the way you do ?

Yahweh is not a human you know !

'Slave' thing can be a survival technique both ways you know ? Like the one in question, In an imperfect system i mean.

When the perfect system comes, all will enjoy, slavery was already in voke befor the nation of israel was formed. So, blame the 'ruler' of this current system and not Yahweh.

Open your eyes!

*sorry if i sounded personal

It is psalms 37 not 36 below:

splashybone: l.God's word the Bible provides us with the most satisfying answers only if we are ready to accept it. When we see ring of truth can we accept it as truly God's word or do we still have doubts
1. John 3:16 answers God loved the world so much that He gave his only begotten son that whoever BELIEVES will not be destroyed but have everlasting life
2. Jesus is not the only criteria for us to inherit God's kingdom why? John 17:3 answers this means everlasting life the taking in knowledge of You the Only true God and the one whom u sent forth Jesus Christ.
3. The Bible made it clear that its not everyone will make Heaven rather its only a selected few whose responsibility it is to rule with Christ in Heaven Rev 5:10 made it clear the work these selected few will be doing while the remaining great crowd of other sheep will inherit the earth Psalms 37:9,10,11&29
4.Almost all the prophets prior to Jesus Christ prophesied about him and all the things said about him fulfilled
5.Hell actually means the common grave of mankind. meaning all humans whether good or bad will go there
6. Even from a human stand point it was not possible to do that recognizing that fact made Jesus to trained people to carry on the word to the most distant part of the earth
7.It is my him only we will have salvation that why in the name of Jesus every kneel whether in heaven except He that gave him such authority and the ones on earth must bow. We don't worship Jesus because God alone should be worshipped and rendered sacred service even in Jesus' reply to Satan's temptation proved this point
8. refer to 5&7
9.Cornelius still was a gentile and much good was attributed to him.
10.Its so because they are a people special to God
11.If u can recall the convenant God entered with Abraham that my means of his seed all nations on earth will bless themselves. Jacob who was ryenamed Israel started that nation. That seed the primary part was Jesus Christ but. when the Jews refused to accept the provision of life God offered He now threw the invitation open why because God is not partial but the man that fears Him us agreeable to Him.
So my friends pls do not fight with Words or abuse yourselves rather give it a careful thought pls

Multiple ID voters will take away the Genuiness of the whole thing and as such should be stop and blocked by all means.

Can a new member tell who does post the best threads he has not seen ? No!

Hence, how can their vote be objective ?

Hence, a post with an ID that is new relative to the year in question should not participate/should not count.

There can be a bench mark of 6months back to one year back after which an embargo bars one from voting

If they are so new here, what is their interest as to who the best religiouse poster is ?

Unless it is a new ID with an old interest.

If you dont want to do something about that ^, then welcome to the mob-Jamboree of lawlessness.

Ok, i just love this qoute:

enginexy10: Someone reading the Bible
What Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Believe?

The beliefs of Jehovah’s Witnesses are no secret, for their literature is readily available in hundreds of languages. Below is a synopsis of some of their main tenets:

1. The Bible

The Witnesses believe that “all Scripture is inspired of God.” (2 Timothy 3:16) Jason D. BeDuhn, an associate professor of religious studies, wrote: “[Jehovah’s Witnesses built] their system of belief and practice from the raw material of the Bible without predetermining what was to be found there.” They align their beliefs with the Bible; they do not interpret it to suit themselves. At the same time, they recognize that not everything in the Bible is to be taken literally. The seven days of creation, for example, are symbolic, referring to extended periods of time. —Genesis 1:31; 2:4.

2. The Creator:

The true God has given himself a personal name —Jehovah (or Yahweh, as used in the Roman Catholic Jerusalem Bible and preferred by some modern-day scholars)— that distinguishes him from false gods. * (Psalm 83:18) The Hebrew form of the divine name appears some 7,000 times in the original text of the Scriptures. Stressing the importance of that name, Jesus said in his model prayer: “Hallowed be thy name.” (Matthew 6:9, King James Version) God rightly demands exclusive devotion. Hence, the Witnesses use no icons or images in their worship. —1 John 5:21.
Jesus Christ

“The Father is greater than I am.” —John 14:28

3. Jesus Christ:

He is the Savior, “the Son of God,” and “the firstborn of all creation.” (John 1:34; Colossians 1:15; Acts 5:31) As a created being, he is not part of a Trinity. “The Father is greater than I am,” said Jesus. (John 14:28) Jesus lived in heaven before coming to earth, and after his sacrificial death and resurrection, he returned to heaven. “No one comes to the Father except through [him].” —John 14:6.

4. God’s Kingdom:

This is an actual heavenly government with a King —Jesus Christ— and 144,000 corulers, who are “bought from the earth.” (Revelation 5:9, 10; 14:1, 3, 4; Daniel 2:44; 7:13, 14) They will rule over the earth, which will be cleansed of all wickedness and will be inhabited by many millions of God-fearing humans. —Proverbs 2:21, 22.

5. The earth:

Ecclesiastes 1:4 states: “The earth endures for ever.” (The New English Bible) After the destruction of the wicked, the earth will be made into a paradise and populated forever by righteous humans. (Psalm 37:10, 11, 29) Jesus’ words in prayer “thy will be done in earth” will thus be fulfilled. —Matthew 6:10, King James Version.
6. Bible prophecy

“God . . . cannot lie.” (Titus 1:2) Hence, what he foretells always comes true, including the Bible prophecies concerning the end of the present world. (Isaiah 55:11; Matthew 24:3-14) Who will survive the coming destruction? “He that does the will of God remains forever,” says 1 John 2:17.

7. Secular authorities:

“Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God,” said Jesus. (Mark 12:17) Accordingly, Jehovah’s Witnesses obey the laws of the land when these do not conflict with God’s laws. —Acts 5:29; Romans 13:1-3.
Two women discussing the Bible

“This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” —Matthew 24:14

8. Preaching:

Jesus foretold: “This good news of the kingdom” will be proclaimed earth wide before the end of the present world. (Matthew 24:14) Jehovah’s Witnesses consider it an honor to share in that lifesaving work. Of course, whether people listen or not is their own choice. The Bible says: “Let anyone that wishes take life’s water free.” —Revelation 22:17.

9. Baptism:

Jehovah’s Witnesses baptize only those who, on the basis of a thorough study of the Bible, want to serve God as one of his Witnesses. (Hebrews 12:1) These symbolize their personal dedication to God by water immersion. —Matthew 3:13, 16; 28:19.
10. The clergy-laity distinction

“All you are brothers,” said Jesus to his followers. (Matthew 23:8 ) The early Christians, including the Bible writers, had no clergy class. This Biblical pattern is the one that Jehovah’s Witnesses follow

https://www.nairaland.com/1462864/man-shoots-jehovah-witnesses-visiting/7#18632330

obadiah777: you tired of this one already ?

What is wrong with this thread ?

Maybe he wants to bring that his atheist Meme thread as though it is only atheist that this thread is meant for. Smh for selfish people.

Oh ! He wants his name to be sticky !

Joagbaje: Adoption is maturity for responsibility . Jesus became adopted when he recieved the holyghost.

But he was declared son of God with power though the resurrection from the dead

Romans 1:4
And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

So, his adoption was after his Resurection then. I see !

Itsfacts: How come some of the founders and elders of the Jehovah witness can celebrate Christmas and go to heaven but other churches that did the same will be condemned?

Is this not wayo?

Is there a doctor in the house ?

Help !

aManFromMars: Trust me, you won't get reasonable answers from ANY of these mods.

Obadiah was caught insulting a NL member, called him a fool and a demon reprobate and one of them hid it. Sad times on this section.

Why ?

I think Seun is a reasonable Guy.

Its just unfortunate that he thought that being a "born again" will ensure unbiased moderating and the reversed is the case. Smh.

I will certainly drop my piece of mind with him concerning this mods allowing their religiouse bias to becloud their Judgment.

Even God loves fairness and Justice :

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!" (Isaiah 5:20-21).
******

Justice is a beautiful thing, when for religiouse reason one looses that above, then no doubt the person has also lost God.

aManFromMars: And Obadiah or some other newbie hides my post. Lovely.

Oh ! The mods even hid your post to encourage such ?

Then we dont have unbiased mods here then.

I have to get across to Seun.

Extremesm have entered here then. Smh.

aManFromMars: Yoogayuz reminds me of my kid bro. Eagerly runs around pissing people off, and when he gets b1tchslapped, he runs under mama''s skirt, looking so innocent...

Characters plenty for this NL.

I was just wandering why the Mods allowed such threads to be spreading such unvarifiable information on NL inspit of the rules governing this forum.

I just hope they were not enjoying it being that two of them are penthecoastal and their doctrine and that of the JW are at variance.

The 3rd mod did the same thing, why ?

*posting this here for reference purposes*

Rule nos 8 says that no one should post false information on NL.

Why then is a thread paddling information without evidence about the jw allowed to continue ?

For that thread to be true, this has to be:

BERNIMOORE: @ Yoogurz
IM still asking you, show me a signed UN document by watchtower, which you ough to haveseen before creating the thread

if you cant provide a signed document by watchtower, then you are guilty of;

[size=18pt]3. Don't advocate or encourage violent actions against any person, tribe, race, or group of people.

8. Don't post false information on Nairaland.[/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/1417830/hypocrites-jehovahs-witness-abandons-secret#1417830.28

contracts are never one sided.

Lots of information on the web about the Jw exist, that does not mean they are true.

But for doctrinal matters that the bible can always be reference, it is malicious for NL admin to coloborate with that ^ on that thread and allow it.
*************************************************

https://www.nairaland.com/505782/questions-comments-complaints-talk-moderators/182#17857484

Rule nos 8 says that no one should post false information on NL.

Why then is a thread paddling information without evidence about the jw allowed to continue ?

For that thread to be true, this has to be:

BERNIMOORE: @ Yoogurz
IM still asking you, show me a signed UN document by watchtower, which you ough to haveseen before creating the thread

if you cant provide a signed document by watchtower, then you are guilty of;

[size=18pt]3. Don't advocate or encourage violent actions against any person, tribe, race, or group of people.

8. Don't post false information on Nairaland.[/size]

https://www.nairaland.com/1417830/hypocrites-jehovahs-witness-abandons-secret#1417830.28

contracts are never one sided.

Lots of information on the web about the Jw exist, that does not mean they are true.

But for doctrinal matters that the bible can always be reference, it is malicious for NL admin to coloborate with that ^ on that thread and allowed it to continue.

I think this post on this thread should be looked into also:


https://www.nairaland.com/1394982/pls-give-good-reasons-why/3#17421025

truthislight: well, if you that have the majority vote says so.

Should it not be a combination of you and either of them ?

If that ^ is true. Which of the combination do you think should work going by the belief based of those that post here in this religious section ?

Which of this two combination covers this divers of this board ?

1. Striklimi and Ishilove.

2. Striklimi and Obediah777(Buzugee).

Can you see that combination 1 above is from the same 'root' ? (if you know what i mean, a root that is the basis of most of the debate in this religious forum).

Obediah is very important to the other Divide.

If you wish to step down for Ishilove is not what i can adjudicate on, you may need the opinion of the wider forum.

But i think that Obediah can carter for the interest of the others(he even voted for logicboy boy in the last poster of the year).

yes o !

Option one has a common denominator = TRINITY

lol.

Combination should be fair to all posters, eg Frosbel, and other none Trinitarians.

truthislight: well, if you that have the majority vote says so.

Should it not be a combination of you and either of them ?

If that ^ is true. Which of the combination do you think should work going by the belief based of those that post here in this religious section ?

Which of this two combination covers this divers of this board ?

1. Striklimi and Ishilove.

2. Striklimi and Obediah777(Buzugee).

Can you see that combination 1 above is from the same 'root' ? (if you know what i mean, a root that is the basis of most of the debate in this religious forum).

Obediah is very important to the other Divide.

If you wish to step down for Ishilove is not what i can adjudicate on, you may need the opinion of the wider forum.

But i think that Obediah can carter for the interest of the others(he even voted for logicboy boy in the last poster of the year).

yes o !

Option one has a common denominator = TRINITY

lol.

Combination should be fair to all posters, eg Frosbel, and other none Trinitarians.

Deep Sight: Anony, Please what verse is your last post treating?

Is the verse being treated Luke 10:1?

Because you seem to have discussed generally many verses, and not a specific verse as we have been proceeding?

^
It is and seems practically impossible for Annony to defend what he is defending following any or certain rational 'rules', except what he is defending is rational.

plaetton: @Deepsight.
Am not one to hurl insults just for the sake of doing so.
Whether thesis or deist, I guess that when your sky daddy us threatened, you all behave much in the same combative and irrational manner.

This discussion has certainly brought you down from your olympian heights.

I know that the practice of law requires certain skills of cunningness, evasion and obfuscation of facts with words. But those skills are not required in honest discussions among friends.
You are puttiby your legal skills to good use by ignoring relevant points, by refusing to elaborate on your version of evolution, and by running all over the place throwing fanciful words.
I do not believe that you are ignorant of salient points raised by myself and others on the issue of amino acids. No. I think you are just pretending.

See who is talking, the one that does not know what life/consciousness is.

The one that will sell "amino acid is alive/have consciousness over time" to his dummies.

Now it is propaganda that he has resorted to.

Your lot that dont know how to think properly except copy and pest should learn how to keep quite when critical thinking is involved.

Oh, your TYPE can come when cursing competition is open.

But for this me that can lose life when all the amino acid and water is still in me, i definitely know you are saying irrelent things as far this subject is concern.

Go and sleep mr man.

Most often it is better to overlook and ignore your ignorance that have driven you into the state you are right now.

But for this folly below, i take an exception.

ooman: a machine cannot function without electricity, does creating electricity mean creating a machine? NO

The issue under discuss is 'life'. > consciousness(in animal).

Is a machine the 'life' in question ?

It is a fact that a machine is an organisation of inanimate material, including its brainbox etc, are lifeless.

The electricity also is inanimate, and cannot pass for 'life/consciousness' that is under deliberation here.

Why then did you bring such analogy here in the first place ?

So, your example is lost for wrong application. Why you could not see it beats me big time.

ooman: life and water are different but life is dependent on water just like machine and electricity are different but machines are different from what powers them.

So, where does the amino acid fits in that "once it is reproduced life is achieved or it leads to life/consciousness" like plaeton is struggling to feed is perceived dummies here ?

Are you aware that the life in question attained 'consciousness' ?

That a machine is even powered with electricity does not means it is conscious ?

Is my car conscious, my phone ? My electronic devices at home ? Which of them is conscious like living things(animal) does ?

Dont you know what the life under consideration involves ?

You mr man, you are lost!

ooman: Water would be useless without DNA, at least to life. so when talking about life components, water may be excused, just like when talking about a machine components, electricity maybe excused

those things you have listed does not necessary account for animal 'life/consciousness'.

If you arrange those together it will still remain inanimate/without consciousness.
That you mould them as a human statue will not give it consciousness with your amino acid and water, if you think it will, then mould one and pump oxygen into it and see it come to life.

Yes, why not ? Is amino acid not there ? Is water not there ? So, consciousness should be attained then. No ?

If not, then note that matter will remain matter nomatter how you organised them, it will not, never gain consciousness.

How do you fellows think sef ? Smh.

It is obvious why some of you are where you are, proper thinking ability is missing

bizmahn: Is frosbel the final authority in christianity? Is he the only one that reads and comprehends the bible morethan all? Does it not occur to you that mr frosbel opposes what thousands of reputable people of God from the time of the apostles till now believed,preached,or even died for. To mention but a few such men like Charles finney,John wesley,John Knox,David Brainerd,Jonathan Edwards,Hudson Taylor, John'praying' Hyde,Smith wigglesworth,John Lake,Charles price,F.F Bosworth and a thousand others.Men that lived far more holy lives than frosbel or any of us can easily muster today,men that shook kingdoms,won millions of souls to christ,caused nationwide spiritual awakenings of prayer and righteousness,healed millions of incurable sick people,fasted & prayed far more,suffered far more for christ than many today can bear,some saw the Lord Jesus & holy angels face to face several times in their lifetime,some even sealed their faith with their blood in matyrdom.
Most of these men preached and upheld most of what Mr frosbel calls heresy today.At least all of them fully upheld the hell & eternal torment doctrine as the apostles of christ did but of which mr frosbel twists the scriptures regarding this matter to his fancy just because he belongs to the brand of christians that cannot bear to see a loving father rewarding sin & willful disobedience. I ask again Is frosbel the final authority?

Those people you just name up there ^, are they the apostles of christ ?

Who told you that christ apostles taught "hell" fire teaching ?

Does frosbel not consistently point out his teaching from the bible on this matter of hell ?

You could not even quote a single scripture rather wrote down the names of people.

"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you workers of lawlessness". (Matthew 7:21-23).

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keep following men because of powerfull works e concern you!