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Lovethywilbedon: So you don't consider The Holocaust (the killing of 7million Jews by a fellow atheist "Adolf Hitler" as EVIL.

ooman: Hitler wasnt an atheist. Where did you get that from, besides, only 6 million Jews died.

Do you know how many your catholic priest murdered for witchcraft and for their knowledge of astronomy?

ooman: You dont understand. Naturally there is nothing like darkness except the lack of light. So normally, there is nothing like evil except the lack of God.

Ma Angwa: My friend do u really know ur bible. U shuld remember that d bible say no sinner shall go unpunished,even if the sins are forgiven. He is serving the punishment of his sins while been forgiven. Sentiments apart, let's always think normal.

Logicboy03: The human population is losing their wisdom teeth. We dont eat as much grass anymore. We have smaller jaws

We look at the armours that medieval knights use and they are small. Keep in mind tht these were meant to be the alpha warriors of their time. even the armour of some eastern cultures are small. Even looking at the skeletons of peoples past, they are smaller.

Logicboy03: Why not?

We are already bigger than our ancestors from the medieval times

Logicboy03: Why dont you go and educate yourself before you ask these silly questions? Hmm?


Speciation = new species


We (monkeys and humans) split from a common ancestor thousands of years ago. We have speciated apart.




Regarding your question about humans being more evolved now. We know for a fact that humans are bigger and now have less teeth than those in medieval times.

ooman: Like i said, understanding the philosophy of nature is obviously out of your ken. Now it is not bad to kill a cow or mosquito because you are not hurting "anyone". But it is bad to kill "someone", a human.
While it is bad to kill the animals, you of all people should understand that survival is a harsh battle, since you understand that God ordered the death of the Hittite, Ammonites, Jebusites and others, with their women and children in your little holy book, just to find a place for his little pathetic children. God in his jealousy didnt want the Israelite to marry their women so they wont turn their heart from worshiping him, so what did this loving God do? He ordered their death, how nice!

You have not understood anything since and i dont know if you get it now. Hurting a member of your species is the only crime.

Logicboy03: Speciation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciation

Humans will give birth to more evolved humans
Monkeys will give birth to more evolved monkeys

Logicboy03: Ignorance. I am sure you went to a creationist website. You would have to assume that that is the only Homo habilis fossil ever found


Here is a nearly complete fossil of homo habilis; KNM ER 1813

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Homo_habilis-KNM_ER_1813.jpg/456px-Homo_habilis-KNM_ER_1813.jpg

ooman: You know, the point you just raised is one of the reason i became an atheist. I considered it a cruel thing for a God to do, to base one's life on another. If God is powerful, who do i have to kill another to live? He doesnt eat, if he made me in his image, why do i get hungry?. We are all flesh and blood, dont forget that even Solomon, the wisest man in the bible says " who can prove that the souls of animals go down and that of man up?" Ecc 3 v 21. So we are all animals and Solomon said that too.

Now to kill is to live, you have to understand the philosophy of nature to understand anything about the point you just raised and apparently, it is out of your ken so just have a good night.

ooman: Thank you for your questions, i like your persistence

? 1. Rather than have one copy of its genome, it has what we can call 1 and a half, only radiodurans is known to have this number of genome. Now once the complete genome disintegrate, which is what is called "clinically dead" which means disintegration of genome beyond repair and which is what happens in all animals and humans when they are said to be dead, the half (that is in the cell but does not take part in metabolism)patches up the genome that makes protein and hey presto, you have life again, spontaneously meaning there is no "who" making it, it resurrects by itself in some 2 - 3 hours.
what you dont get is that, if there was a spirit in life forms, this would not be possible.

? 2. That is what is amazing about this bacterium, when it dies, it can resurrect or wake up or restart mitosis, anyway you understand it.

Now this proves that there is no spirit in life forms, we are only blood and flesh, there is no spirit in man that will go to heaven or hell. Since God is a spirit, this also proves that he doesnt exist. Got it?

ooman: Well you seem not to check the right place, see this

Fifty years ago, scientists uncovered a microbe capable of withstanding radiation in canned meat that had been bombarded with gamma rays. Named Deinococcus radiodurans — or "strange berry that withstands radiation" — the microorganism can survive doses of radiation up to 500 times that which would kill a human. These doses shatter D. radiodurans's DNA — just as they would in a human — but the microbe can repair its broken DNA and spring back to life within hours, depending on the dose. Researchers in France have finally determined how the most durable of extremophiles manages this trick. "We have discovered the mechanism by which a clinically dead cell resurrects back to life," explains Miroslav Radman of INSERM, France's public biomedical research institution. "This extreme radiation resistance is but a by-product of its selection for resistance to desiccation."

on scienceandreason..com/2006/10/self-resurrecting-bacteria.html

what this proves is that there is no spirit that gives any living thing life. Now how about that for a prove against your God?

ooman: Well you seem not to check the right place, see this

Fifty years ago, scientists uncovered a microbe capable of withstanding radiation in canned meat that had been bombarded with gamma rays. Named Deinococcus radiodurans — or "strange berry that withstands radiation" — the microorganism can survive doses of radiation up to 500 times that which would kill a human. These doses shatter D. radiodurans's DNA — just as they would in a human — but the microbe can repair its broken DNA and spring back to life within hours, depending on the dose. Researchers in France have finally determined how the most durable of extremophiles manages this trick. "We have discovered the mechanism by which a clinically dead cell resurrects back to life," explains Miroslav Radman of INSERM, France's public biomedical research institution. "This extreme radiation resistance is but a by-product of its selection for resistance to desiccation."

on scienceandreason..com/2006/10/self-resurrecting-bacteria.html

what this proves is that there is no spirit that gives any living thing life. Now how about that for a prove against your God?

ooman: Sorry but i am a naturalist, i have my proves and i am alone on this. I am not an atheist because i was taught evolution in school. I would be too afraid of hell to do that except i have my personal proves.

You compare the existence of the brain to God's. Well tell you what, take an X-ray scan of your head, you'd see your brain. What scan must i take to see your God?

ooman: Well sorry but you are. One thing you dont know is that if there is any evidence for God that I cannot refute, just one, then i will believe in God. But there isnt, instead of you to prove your God, you are getting soppy. I know about intelligent design ID, but is it ever taught in schools? No, have you every wonder why? because it is not true, it is just a wish that cannot be proved. God is no longer taught in science classes because experiments have proved there is no God. Why not start with radiodurans, you can google that.

Logicboy03: The comments here on this thread here are foolish apart from Jesoul's and Frosbel's.



Marriage existed before the catholic church, judaism and christianity. What real right does the Pope have to say about marriage?


His church that has been rocked with homosexual scandals of man and boy? Hypocrite.




Even so, how does gay marriage threaten peace? Rather the catholic church is a threat to peace itself.

Todaynatoday: What if I told you that Christianity is not a religion but a way of life?

Reyginus: frosbel, why the hate for the catholic church?

CrazyMan: The whole issue is that most christians embrace religion instead of christ.

The numerous denominations we're having in the church today is what's killing christianity.

I would suggest that we run away from religion and embrace christ. Religion kills because its crafted on lies and deception.

But Jesus is the way the truth and the light...no man comes to the father, except by him.

sylve11: @ crazyman, u got it on spot there! Same thing I have been trying to point out to some folks here.

CrazyMan: The whole issue is that most christians embrace religion instead of christ.

The numerous denominations we're having in the church today is what's killing christianity.

I would suggest that we run away from religion and embrace christ. Religion kills because its crafted on lies and deception.

But Jesus is the way the truth and the light...no man comes to the father, except by him.

plappville: Scripture did not say that, the Apostles bowed to any image, they prayed, and the Holy Spirit came down. Have you been following this same method? Capital letter "NO" you have a different doctrine so how does the Catholic that is known with idolatry doctrine be thesame Church that was born on the day of *Penticost*?

seriallink: Do you even know anything about the history and beginning of Christianity? Your own delusion is too strong brah!

What I put for italo up there wasn't about who came first. I see you have a long way to go.

FYI, I ain't fighting for any denomination because I do not belong to any one.

I'm a Christian, just like the early Christians. Go figure!

I'm outta here.

Take care!

seriallink: @Italo,

So anyone who knowingly reject some Catholic teachings and doctrines because they are not scriptural is doomed? Smh!!! I wonder why those doctrines weren't written down in the scripture if they were truly inspired by the holy spirit!

Why would you say my accusation was a lie? Were you there when I was creating the thread? Did you know what pushed me into creating that thread? C'mon stop being childish!

So, you want to tell me that what your Catholic brother[b]striktlymi[/b] posted weren't good enough for you? Oh, I guess that was because the facts he presented weren't uniform with your idea of 'The Holy Roman Catholic Church being the only true Church' huh? Well, that's understandable!!

It seems Mr. Ube supported your idea which explains why you seconded his post. I have replied to his post and waiting for his response.

I'm not trying to force you leave your Church doctrines or anything. But you have to get the message and stop deluding youself that the 'Holy Roman Catholic Church is the only true Church'. By saying that, you've already condemned other denominations/Christians. Are you the righteous judge to know that Christ will pick only from your supposedly 'Only True Church'?

Lets leave it at that. I have made my point. Just know that anytime you say your Church is the 'only true church', you've already condemned other christians; meaning, you've already judged on behalf of the Almighty God!

sylve11: Italo I dey shame for u. Ijawkid just finished u and all u could do's constant repetition of words. Sorry to say, I am catholic and same time a christian, but when matters like 'Catholics worship Idols surfaces, I keep quiet and never speak a word'. If u can answer some of ijawkid's questions, then this whole protestant vs catholic would have been over. As a catholic, I don't support the idea of bowing down to Mary whom I don't even know her looks; the rest of my brethren can crucify me for saying this but I don't care. If the bible was compiled by catholic, then where's it in the bible we should bow before Mary's image? Ijawkid made valid points even though I don't take side with his doctrine. Ur questions are annoying. If Ijawkid and the rest of the protestant or pentecostal bow to worship their bible, that is their own cup of tea. Infact the way Christianity is going now, I don't truly _stand who are the true Christians anymore. God of the heavens and Christ Your Son I believe in. Private jets flying all around in the name of Christ.; as for who came 1st or 2nd is non of ma business, my only question is ' what is happening to Christianity as a body' or religion? *sad*

Boomark: You are seriously interested in current affairs while we are interested in bringing you back to God.

You are interested in things synonymous to: who is the first president of Jamaica? Who discovered that mosquito can bite? Etc.

Who are these protestants you kept mentioning as if they stole something from you?

Boomark: ^You can't rough handle me. I am invincible. If you will not resort to bringing your facts from the bulletins, then get ready to start acting childishly like italo.

Is the church Christ formed a building/house? You don't even know.

The apostles and followers of Christ are his church and they are called Christians. That is why my church is called Christians not catholic. You tell an obvious lie here if you say the apostles where called catholic church.

Go and read what the bible meant by church or body of Christ. I am a Christian not a catholic.

ijawkid: Your question is useless.......

I want you to define what the word ""bible" means...........

Since you are finding persons who will sympathize with you in your idolatrous acts I know you would join italo in asking irrelevant questions.........

Did Jesus read from the scriptures or not??.....you are there asking me if the word bible is in the bible....meanwhile your presumpteous colleague just said I pray to the bible.....make him come show me when I bow down to bible and then praying to it.......

Definintion of the word ""bible""....

Bi·ble
[bahy-buh l]

-n.
1. the collection of sacred writings of the Christian religion, comprising the Old and New Testaments.
2. the collection of sacred writings of the Jewish religion: known to Christians as the Old Testament.
3. the sacred writings of any religion.
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Like I said if the word ""bible"" is your problem,I'm ready to stick to words like scrolls and scriptures..........

All I wanted from you guys is show me from the scrolls were any normal sane christian or Jew worshipped mary and prayed through her and also used prayer beads........

Boomark: these sites will tell you what you want to hear. If you want to test the strength of what you believe in, bring it here and we will make it strengthless.

I am not in the Category of seers/lookers, i am an attacker.

the apostles were call Christians, so the name of my church is "Christian."

ijawkid: So the word ""bible "" is your problem??uh??....

That is why I have resorted to using the word ""scrolls""............

Jesus read from a written script,scroll or whatever the prophets wrote on........

And I am trying to prove to your fellow idolaters that Jesus read from a written document or scroll, and so by italo's conclusion Jesus worshipped the scrolls he was given at the temple just because he read from it................

I simply told him(italo) that all I do is read the scriptures,but he(italo) insisted I worship and pray to the scriptures...........

Let him show me an image of one who prays to the bible......



Then I'll bring out photos of how you guys worship mary,bow down to her image and recite words of devotion to her........and also how you use prayer beads.....

Running away from a glaring fact that you guys are idolaters baffles me........