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justaqad: Bitterthing is something else...

beejaay: there is nothing like sin in this instance. the only sin is for the muslim not to know his religion wella ( God says know me well before you worship me, if you dont know me, how then can you wosrhip me). its actually an opportunity for him to expose james ignorance by contributing to the blog islamically

deols: There are many reasons to doubt an atheist.

They have no guiding principles, no strict values. Life is all about what they subjectively think is right or wrong.

tbaba1234: "A reputation once broken may possibly be repaired, but the world will always keep their eyes on the spot where the crack was. "- Joseph Hall

Our conclusions are based on your reputation/history....

justaqad: Salam Alaykum
In philosophical, theological, or moral discussions, corruption is spiritual or moral impurity or deviation from an ideal. Corruption may include many activities including bribery and embezzlement. Government, or 'political', corruption occurs when an office-holder or other governmental employee acts in an official capacity for his or her own personal gain.
corruption is synonymous with the term NIgeria. civilised and morally upright countries deal with this syndrome harshly without mercy.but in Nigeria reverse is the case.corruption is condoned.corruption is only a crime when you steal in 4 figures.you disgrace the cabal an you would be punished severely there is no impunity for stealing in 4 figures.
when you exalt to 6 figures you will be revered and celebrated only Nigeria.
it is no news how petty thief are dealt with in Sharia states in Nigeria.though the punishments are harsh but serves as deterent to others.
Sharia in the north has been politicized,justice has been relegated.only the poor and weak face justice and punishment,the rich and influential are praised encouraged to do more.
what stops Sharia from Amputating the big shots that is holding Northern Nigeria to ransom?
Masalam

justaqad:

why u de call me na?
you wan make my fellow muslims brand me hypocrite again?

BetaThings: Hahahaha
So I am bloodthirsty because I mention Badr?
Really?
Not surprised anyway since you have already alleged that most muslims despise non-muslims

Your campaigns against Muslims will fail

BetaThings: Please mention one knowledgeable group (just one) who put Muslim Terrorists at the top of their global threat assessment list
It never pays to ignore reality because of the hatred of a religion
So a nuclear bomb will be a toy in the hands of the Norwegian terrorist, Breivik? Or his associates in Poland who wanted to murder government officials or the David Koresh and his suicidal band
Even Sri Lankans who faced the Tamil Tigers would not agree with you

So failure of man-made systems make evil and death less painful? The victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki disagree
Today the Americans fear a nuclear-armed foe, whatever his motivation even if from Mars

If your religion or atheism is not perfect, you can continue working on it. Even Americans now admit that the meddling in Iraq has made the ME less safe

Islam is perfect. We only need to explain it to cut the blood flow of new members to the extremists who never on their own commit suicide. You would like to upset the 99% of Muslims who abhor violence in order to take curtail the actions of the extremist 1%. That has never worked and will never
Much is to be learnt from History. Your "ideal" muslim country of UAE proves that eloquently

toba: my understanding of 'maybe' is I'm not sure. Someone really needs to watch it.

Away from that, the latter part of this post says it all. The Islamic founder/prophet's a mere mortal like toba, tbaba, deols, Mukina, hence he didnt live forever. I said something about him and Lagosshia decided to curse my parents. A member of NL once threatened to behead me after talking against Islam. I think Muslims sees fight, violence, war as no big deal and get too Emotional about Religion.

mdsocks: Not in effect referring to you but to other Christians who hurl insults at Muslims on this forum.

Take for instance the Darnish cartoonist...You have a right to make any drawings but also respect the right of others who are entitled to a belief system.

chakula: I don’t understand your last statement which may be is included after naming your sociable Muslims, Are you telling me that Maclatunji's way of moderating Islamic is not admirable? or was the statement that he placed on the section is invasive to you and Nairaland in general?

Kindly you can treat this situation between you and the moderators and, I can personally not happy the way things are happening on Nairaland. In all most all the sections that has to do with Religion and Politics things are getting out of hand and no measure that has been put in place, at least Mac is moderating his section the way he think is pleasing.

if You Seun is dissatisfactory with Mac style, so alarm should put in place and do’s and don’ts procedures should be attached to the offer of moderators before granting them the bid.

mdsocks: Oga... Freedom of Expression does not translate to freedom to abuse other peoples belief system also.

They have a right to their belief system and you owe them a right to respect such beliefs.

So please take note...

tbaba1234: ^ Vedaxcool is good for this section, we need people like him... There are times where people have to be direct with some of you guys. Vedaxcool does that well. He gives out what is given to him.

Stop gloating!!

MacDaddy01: This is the foolishness of theists/deists appearing again.


There is no evidence for god. You people keep using the same dead arguments.

Please, notice that all their evidence for god is based on mystery. How can a mystery be evidence when a mystery by definition is confusion because there is no evidence/clues to explain it.



Mysteries used as evidence for God;

-Ihedinobi starts the thread with the mystery of "self sufficiency"
-Deepsight and Enigma use the origin of the universe to claim God exists. (No one knows the full origin of the universe)
-Miracles. Something mysteriously happens (eg a person defeats cancer) and it is God that did it!



Seriously?


Let me debunk the Cosmological arguments for God once and for all
-Whatever the origin or cause of the universe we do not fully know. Anything that tries to explain it without empirical evidence or some data is a hypothesis.

-We can easily explain how something can come from something. We have no evidence nor reason to believe that an immaterial spirit being can create something.

-We have no evidence for spirits or invisible beings not now or ever. You cant even explain what a spirit is? Is it antimatter or gas? How would a spirit be able to create the world? One mystery used to explain the mystery of the origin of our universe!




#theism/deism debunked.

fellis: Insha Allah, we are

Seun: [size=18pt]Quite a few muslims have felt that what I meant above is that muslims are violent. This was not what I meant to say, but my words came out wrong. Most muslims I have interacted with are very nice & gentle and not violent or aggressive. For example, mukina2, Jarus, deols, and maybe maclatunji. But the problem is that in the muslim community, there are quite a few extremists who tend to react aggressively to any perceived insult against Islam. Someone suggested that a holy prophet would marry beauty queen and people were killed. Someone in Europe published a satirical cartoon and people were killed. We do not want Nairaland to be responsible for such deaths. That's why we have to warn people.[/size]

Seun: Quite a few muslims have felt that what I meant above is that muslims are violent. This was not what I meant to say, but my words came out wrong. Most muslims I have interacted with are very nice & gentle and not violent or aggressive. For example, mukina2, Jarus, deols, and maybe maclatunji. But the problem is that in the muslim community, there are quite a few extremists who tend to react aggressively to any perceived insult against Islam. Someone suggested that a holy prophet would marry beauty queen and people were killed. Someone in Europe published a satirical cartoon and people were killed. We do not want Nairaland to be responsible for such deaths. That's why we have to warn people.

fellis: Allah always provides better alternatives to those that choose to avoid sin so don't worry, the Muslims are not loosing anything.

ARareGem: ^^
I think that's a perfectly reasonable question as it applies. It would be the same thing as aiding the atheist to do more evil. Lord only knows how many bloggers he would be able to confuse.

For an atheist to convince a man into accepting unbelief in the existence of God, he ultimately leads that man to eternal damnation. Eternal damnation is far worse than physical death which you consider to be a crime.

Personally, I would refuse that job.

fellis: Yes, do that.

fellis: Basically this.
A Muslim isn't supposed to do anything to promote disbelief. Designing such a site is one of such things.

deols: macdaddy. I had to laugh!

you can lie mehn.

later, he was 'forced' to finish d job.

not so smart of you. I like you nevertheless.

well, LagosShia gave the right answer alraeady.

LagosShia: the muslim designer should have refund the money and stopped working for the atheist. im giving this based on a ruling of Ayatollah Sistani on christmas.he said if celebrating (like christmas tree and santa claus,not just wishing christians) would promote the beliefs or religion of others,it is forbidden.so drawing conclusion from that reasoning,it is forbidden for a muslim to promote what contradicts Islam or is against God.

if its an answer from a muslim perspective you're looking for,youve got one.by that i mean,i hope youre not as usual seeking attention,to go on and argue the answer to your question.

BetaThings: Hahahaha
Smart
Reminds of a Paterson novel about an American president being pressed by members of the opposing party to bend to their wishes so that they could co-operate with him. He retorted that no matter what he gives, they will not vote for him. Good lesson.
You became an atheist because of Muslims?
hahahahahahahahahahah

MacDaddy01: What? I am waiting for the day that muslims will be honest about Maclatunji. Should I post evidence of Vedaxcool troolling and derailing my thread while Maclatunji did nothing even though i reported?

Should I show you vedaxcool's abusive history? Or how Vedaxcool makes fun of someone's depression? How many muslims have cautioned him?


You people sometimes dont know that you are the ones that make people run away from islam

davidylan: 51% of christians in america identify as protestants. As the largest body of christians in america (catholics are next with 24%), it makes perfect sense to use them as surrogates for the general body of christians in america.

So your problem was?

davidylan: Where are my facts? 8-years of living and going to church in the US. Do you live here?
Besides... that statistic is common knowledge... use google and stop being intellectually lazy.

Just to forestall your nauseating response, here is the survey done by USAToday - http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/printedition/life/20070807/d_churchdropout07.art.htm