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[quote author=Mr_Anony]Wow, your ability to comprehend is very little.[/quote]lol....and your ability to dodge is too much!

obadiah777: ITS GOING TO TAKE NOTHING SHORT OF A WAR TO ELIMINATE ALL YOU DEMONIC AND ATHEIST CONTROLLERS OF THE WORLD. THE BATTLE OF ARMAGGEDON. IT IS A NECESSARY EVIL. WITHOUT WAR THERE CANT BE ULTIMATE PEACE. YOU DEMONS HAVE YOUR CLAWS SO DEEP IN THIS WORLD THAT IT WILL ONLY TAKE A WAR TO UNCLASP YOUR FINGERS FROM ITS DEADLY GRIP ON THE WORLD. THE REAL CONTROLLERS OF THIS WORLD SYSTEM ? THE ROCKEFELLERS, OPENHEIMERS, DUPONTS, GETTY, ETC ETC ? ? ? ALL ATHEISTS

You are retarded. You were born a christian werent you?

[quote author=m.k.o2005]You only receive what you deserve.Except HIS grace comes upon you ! HE was compassionate to the lost Canaanite woman who realized that Jesus is lord . Even as you are today,the grace is there for you all you need is to be wise and tap into this grace if not,you won't receive anything ! But if you do,you will get even more than the Canaanite woman ![/quote]Commot for road jo!

Deep Sight: If you think that was not his point, then indeed logical constructs and analogies are a problem for you.



See my edit of your post and hopefully you will get the point.

That was not Anony's point. Stop defending him. He got debunked and now he is tryong to change his point. He clearly said "calculations from a flat earth"!


As for your edit, that is cool but, I was not addressing that

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Umm.......that was my point. problem is that you missed it


double salute to you.....your inability to reason is unlimited[/quote]Sir Anony aka Sir remix alot!


You were saying "calculations based on a flat earth" and now you are changing your point to flat earth did not stop people from creating structures?

MyJoe: Belief in God, that is conscious belief, yes. That is not necessary to be a good person. God is.

Nonsense. The president is godless.


God doesnt even exist.

okeyxyz: Frankly I'm amazed at how you can so easily fail to understand a simple question as this:
Now if this question is so too hard a matter for you to analyse, then you and I probably cannot have any meaningful discussion on the issue of slavery and we should just stop now, until you show that you can address my question.




Again, you demonstrate the lack of skill in engaging in a debate\discussion. You launch an attack on a position which i have neither supported nor suggested/implied. Really, there's just no point of me attending to with your "rants" until you address my question. So i'm just gonna ignore the rest of your post below.

I did not answer your question because it was stupid. Why would you ask what is wrong with slavery? Should we now be asking what is wrong with ra.pe?

okeyxyz: Well spoken. Isn't it funny how the so-called "atheists" and anti-christian warriors just spin the issue of slavery out of context, yet they claim to be objective\scientific observers, but somehow they forget how to "observe" the practices of 2000 years with respect to the values of the times.

lol......slavery is supported by the bible. Wasnt it the European christians that used the bible to justify slavery in the first place? Were they atheists?

obadiah777: YEAH THEY ARE DEMONS IS WHAT THEY ARE LOL

What do you call Yaweh and yourself?

Yaweh according to buzzugee/obadiah= A spiritual warmonger = violent demon in control of heaven


You = demon worshipper waiting for war.

ijawkid: The truth is the rulers in 9ja aren't Christians...

U doubt??

They are christians. Hypocrites like you who claim to have the utmost morality in their religion but christianity is home to many atrocities like slavery and mass deception.

Point; you dont need god to be good. There are good christians, good bhuddists and good atheists.



Yaweh is not necessary

[quote author=Mr_Anony]lol, This challenge that jokingly suggests that you are incapable of thought, though it started out as a joke, it is becoming more and more likely to be not too far from the tuth.

I was about to reply you when I saw that deep sight has already done the honors.

You need to learn to think man. Seriously[/quote]Sir, I throway salute to you! Your dodging knows no bounds!

Deep Sight: You are desperately picking at straws. The point was that in their wrong estimation, the earth was flat. Yet they used that wrong estimation in making vehicles to move from point A to Point B.

Anony's example on the flat earth is slam on point. Mazaje was just pedantically picking at straws. The substance of the argument is that man did not know the overall nature of the earth as spherical at some point in time. He thought the earth flat. But this wrong notion of the earth's nature did not stop him from making carts and chariots to move about from place to place. THEREFORE man being wring about the overall structure of teh universe would not stop him from being able to move in the universe! Most importantly, contrary to martian's suggestion, moving around successfully in chariots did not prove that early men were right and the earth was flat. As such moving about successfully from one planet to another does not prove that current scientists are right about the overall nature of the universe or the commencement of spacetime.

Lol......That was not Anony's point.



Addressing the point you made in bold;

Believing in a flat earth will not stop you from building houses but it will stop you from getting an accurate model of the solar system and the big bang.


Simple.

obadiah777: YES IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN GOD YOU ARE EVIL. ITS JUST WHAT IT IS. YOU MAY PPRETEND NOT TO BE BUT DEEP DOWN IN YOUR LIL MIND YOU KNOW YOUR VICE AND THEY MAY BE HIDDEN FROM THE WORLD.

AND PLEASE ENOUGH WITH THE 'RELIGIOUS LEADER' ARGUMENT. ANY RELIGIOUS LEADER IS BOUND TO BE CORRUPT. ATHEISTS AND RELIGIOUS LEADERS BELONG IN THE SAME SATANIC CATEGORY. GOD DID NOT GIVE US RELIGION, HE GAVE US LAWS STATUTES AND COMMANDMENTS.

Commandments to stone people who dont go to church (Exodus 31:12-15) ? Commandments to kill unbelievers (Deuteronomy 17:12)? Commandments to kill gays(Leviticus 20:13)?

Deep Sight: Gosh. Your reasoning powers are actually far lower than previously thought.

To simplify it for you: the point is that being wrong about more advanced precepts has never stopped mankind from successfully building machines based on the precepts that he does know. Gravity has been used for thousands of years in thousands of mankind's technologies, such as water systems. Did they need to be right about the exact and more advanced pre suppositions on gravity before that could do such? What this simply means is that contrary to what martian said, the mere fact that I say that current science is wrong in its concepts of somethings is not rebutted by saying that current science does succeed in developing other things based on precepts that it does know.

Flying to Mars or wherever does not show that time commeneced at the big bang.

1) That was not Anony's point. He said that structures were based using calculations of a flat earth. When challenged, he shifted to saying "assumptions"

2) If even that was the point, you would still be wrong. Being wrong about certain scientific facts and not accepting when one is wrong has stopped the priogress of mankind. Christianity held more knowledge back than it could give. Dark ages.

[quote author=Area_boy]And yet they will all claim that morality can only come from god!

right [/quote]Unortuantely for them, morality comes from humans

obadiah777: THIS ARGUMENT ANGLE IS JUVENILE. THE MAN MAY NOT LIKE MONEY BUT I AM SURE HE HAS SOME SERIOUS SKELETONS IN HIS CLOSET. HE MAY BE A R-APIST, A CHILD MOLESTER, A H-OMOSEXUAL, ETC ETC. YOU KNOW EMBEZZLING MONEY OR THE LOVE FOR MONEY IS JUST ONE OF MANY SINS. EVERY MAN NOT FULLY EMBEDDED IN THE LORD HAS HIS OR HER OWN VICES THAT KEEP THEM AWAY FROM GOD

Wow, so your logic is that he must be evil because he doesnt believe in God?

The logic here is simple. You dont need God to be good!


Also, show me one religious leader that is better than or similar to this man

obadiah777: YOU WERE NEVER A CONTENDER

I was and still am the undefeated heavyweight.

Deep Sight: Stop being lazy. We know that this is what is said. This does nothing to change the point or the question. Have a look at this -

X Y Z

Now lets say that X, Y and Z above are galaxies. Let us also say that they are stationary, but that the space between them is expanding and increasing. If this happens, then X is going to keep moving further to the left and Z further to the right. That would mean that our hypothetical three galaxy universe above has moved into previously unnocupied space on the left and the right.

Such space could not be said to be a function of the universe because our universe is just consisting of these three galaxies and the space between them. As such the spaces to the right and left where our galaxies "move" into, are not made by our universe or its commencement.

It is already existing space.

There is no model that you can present which will resolve this conundrum. Jayriginal fetched a bunch of clueless andc hoplessly confused extracts last night: and they just fell apart in a hail of contradictions. In one breath they say that the question makes no sense. In another breath they say the expansion is occurring into nothing - forgetting that nothingness does not exist, much less can nothingness be residable cosmic space. They then say that the expansion ius occuring into previously unoccupied space. Which is of course the right thing to say, but contradicts the wild nonsense in most of the extracts!

Blah blah b;lah


Do numbers exist in reality? Why are you running away from your statements?

okeyxyz: Ohh Right!!!! The modern-day "Mantras". So what parts of the given statements/principles are against human-rights and equality? And just for the sake of critical, objective discussion(if you can manage that), can you explain how slavery is unacceptable to you, and how you would deal with it if you find yourself in an institution/society where it is legal and the norm?

Slavery is already illegal. Has Mr Anony been lecturing you guys on how to switch the focus of an argument?


"slaves obey your masters". If that is not a clear support of slavery, I dont know what is.



Now, a dishonest apologist like you would say that slavery in the biblical times was only servitute/"houseboyship". That is laughable because we know that slavery in the bible was worse. Slaves built temples and synagogues. The slaves where whipped (Read about how moses killed a slave master). Slaves were beaten. Slaves were also pierced at the will of their masters.


We have God enforcing slavery, telling moses and the jews to get slaves from the nations around them.


Jesus was also racist to the Canaanite woman whom he refused at first to heal her daughter. Futhermore, he referred to her and her people as dogs that did not need the bread of life that the holy father was giving his children of Isreal. The woman had to beg and say that even dogs eat the crumbs!

Jesus of all people behaving unfair and treating jews better than canaanites. Just replace "jew" with british and canaanites with Nigerian and you willsee people shouting racism. Brainwashed christians will excuse racism for Jesus

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Lol, do you even have any idea what I am talking about or what the point I was making to martian is?

By the way, you haven't yet shown us proof that you are capable of thought. We are still waiting[/quote]dodging again?


Were you not saying that people believed the flat earth and certain systems and structures were put in place based or with an assumption of a flat earth idea?



Anony-houdini; it rhymes and it's true!

obadiah777: THIS AINT YOUR STOMPING GROUND FOOL. OUT HERE IN THESE JUNGLES, BIBLE SCHOLARS WILL EAT YOU FOR BREAKFAST AND WASH YOU DOWN WITH PALMWINE. YOU BETTER RETURN TO THE POLITRICKS SECTION WITH THAT BULLSHYTTT. WE DONT PLAY THAT SHYTT HERE. IF YOU WANT TO COME YOU BETTER COME HARDER THAN THAT LAME DENIGRATION OF YAHAWAH. WE ARE GANG-BANGERS OUT HERE, FOR YAHAWAH THAT IS

Where was this macho man toughness when logicbo was in his prime?

[quote author=Mr_Anony]Ok my bad, I should have said "assuming a flat earth" instead of "calculations of a flat earth" and also should have said "accurately enough" instead of "accurately". My apologies for my 'imperfect' wording.

The point I was making to martian still holds all the same.

....and yeah, I never lied[/quote]Your point doesnt hold. Houses were built on the solid logic that gravity wont allow houses to fly and that a good foundation will hold a house intact. They were not built on the fact that the earth was flat.


Same with other ancient engineering works. They were built on a basic or crude understanding of gravity. The pyramids were not built based on a flat earth idea

okeyxyz: So what are you saying? Are these principles wrong? Do you have a better principle? If you do, then please share them, then maybe we can learn how christian doctrine is faulty. I personally don't see anything wrong with them. So please educate me otherwise.

Heardof human rights, equality and abolishment of slave trade

SimonAndal: _
BURN!!!!

Notice that he didnt come back?

ijawkid: Altruism @ work....

In all he did good....

Its and example for the mumu leaders in nigeria to emulate.........

True.



However, what does that say about religion? Yaweh, Allah and christ are not necessary to be a good person.

musKeeto: Christianity has always been about pastor worship...

1 Corinthians 3:4 When one of you says, "I am a follower of Paul," and another says, "I follow Apollos," aren't you acting just like people of the world?

Of course, I choose to use that verse out of context, just like the Christians..

I wonder ooo!


How many people here celebrate Chinua Achebe's birthday or Wole Soyinka's anniversary? We come here and shout praises for MOGs that have contributed nothing but holy slaps and tithing frauds to Nigeria!


See what an atheist leader is doing
https://www.nairaland.com/1059457/best-president-ever-atheist-uruguayan

Jose Mujica is the president of Uruguay. He lives a humble lifestyle.


-He gives about 90% of his salary to charity keeping only £1,250 out of $12,500

-He drives a volkswagen beetle

-Under Mujica’s stewardship, Uruguay has become known for low levels of corruption. The South American country ranks as the second least corrupt country in Latin America in Transparency International’s global corruption index.

-The president said that the only big item he owns is his VW car, valued at $1,945 dollars. The farmhouse in which he lives in Montevideo is under his wife’s name, Lucía Topolansky, a Senator, who also donates part of her salary


www.nairaland.com/attachments/833669_548451_3750686159197_1787401980_n_jpg9dcba261f6cfb166123b7986d4c75594



[size=18pt]He is an atheist! (doesnt believe in god)[/size]


What have our christian and muslim leaders done?

christianity has turned into pastor worship!


In a sane world, MOGs should be arrested for fraud.

Ihedinobi: hehehehehehehehehe....... What, you don't like my fatherliness? Lol

Fatherliness? Are you some pedophile reverend father?


Muskeeto, protect your behind!

[quote author=c.fours]Lol.
you are not superhuman. EVERYONE is vulnerable to subliminal indoctrination (faux channel is FULL of this ploy).
what's your major news source? I hope it's not faux sha?
Have you heard the latest about romney painting his face brown to reach out to latinos? These people hire psychologists I tell ya. and i'm sure that news won't be covered on faux news.[/quote]Faux news is one of my major sources. I believe the opposite of what they say. BBC and Al Jazeera are the least biased networks.


BBC messed up in the iraq war and Al Jazeera made its name when it showed the extent of America's damage in Iraq.


The best news source is the internet. One should compare all the facts from various sources and make his own informed judgement.

Fox news tells you that it is the only fair and balanced network. Too man fools believe that

[quote author=m.k.o2005]He died for you and i ! It profits you nothing to say all these things to HIM.But because HE is merciful,HE said father forgive them for they know not what they do. I believe HE can still forgive you brother.
Good brother,so you even read the bible ? That's good but learn to study so the holy spirit can minister unto you.
The canaanite idol worshiping woman like some very micro minute few of us here on NL trying to seek recognition,be wise like her who recognized the Deity of our LORD jesus Christ and be given the MEAT(BLESSINGS) of the chosen(Those who believe in Jesus) -Jesus loves you and still interested in ur soul-Shalom[/quote]I should have known that you are a useless slave that wants to be a slave. When faced with the truth about your religion, yo ignore it and continue preaching.


Jesus was racist to the Canaanite woman. If a british doctor told you that he only heals the lost sheep of Britain when your child for treatment, would you accept such?

Uyi Iredia: There you have it ! A clear reason why MacDaddy trolls Nairaland. He is jobless.

lol.....Jobless and rich.


Unlike you, that will always be poor, job or no job