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amor4ce:
The people of Idanre are Omo Oodua; their ancestor was a direct son of Oodua, buut Oyo has succeeded in her version of our history in getting lots of people to forget this. The Idanre people still call themselves Omo Oodua, and this son of Oodua was nicknamed Olofin and took with him when leaving Ile-fe Oodua's royal paraphernalia including his crown which both Benin and Oyo have tried stealing but failed.

If we are to move forward smoothly we need to know clearly where we are coming from, including our collective and individual nomenclatures so we won't repeat mistakes but rather better value our bonds. This is not an attempt to "to plant seed of disunity among the yoruba people", which is a false accusation.

I am from Remo, and you have not proven that I am Yoruba. To insist on calling me Yoruba is akin to the oyinbo slave masters imposing strange names on their slaves.

this is just hilarious. You didn't even answer my questions.

Lemme ask, as a Remo, are you Ijebu?

KingSango:
Alot of these stories are myths, take some of the myth out of it. Most myths are overblown truths to keep the story alive through fairy tales. This is my only suggestion. Sango doesn't have to appear mythical to be a real hero of Oyo. Sango simply was a very talented man, a very brave one, who became a just and noble king, which is why people still love him to this very day. The myths does Alaafin Sango a disservice because it makes people think believers in Sango aren't grounded. Like every illness doesn't have to have a spiritual cause, every cold isn't a bad spirit attacking the patient. The must be a balance between the physical and the spiritual world. Sango is the baba of duality as an ibeji himself. Sorcery can be combined with technology. So in the end Sango/Sorcery and Ogun/Technology both fight for justice. Love, Sango.

This is how the story is said, I don't think it's myth
You are Brazilian devoted to Sango right? You should point out the exact myths

Btw In Yoruba culture, everything is the working of spirits even an ordinary cold is being done by a spirit
And I doubt that Sango was an Ibeji, he had Ibeji children from Osun but I don't think he was Ibeji himself

Rilwayne001:
I have always love reading Yoruba history and listening to programmes on radio that has to do with the history of yorubas. Infact, I admire some of your threads in the cultural section.

Perhaps I wasn't well informed about the history of sango. You can save me from being ignorant of who sango was by narrating the story to me or directing me to a well documented site about him.

We are all here to learn.

https://www.nairaland.com/2431386/sango-olukoso
I made a thread just for you

Sango (known as Changó or Xangô in Latin America; and also known as Jakuta) is an Orisha. He is syncretized with Saint Barbara in Santeria of South America.
Sango is historically a royal ancestor of the Yoruba as he was the third Alafin (king: owner of the palace) of the Oyo Kingdom, born Arabambi(and according to some sources he was also known as "Olufiran" to Oranmiyan, founder of Oyo and Tapa (Nupe) Princess Torosi
Some would rather say he was the second Alaafin after his elder brother Ajaka was dethroned, due to the fact that Oranmiyan never officially assumed the title of "Alaafin" before going back to Ile - Ife.

Sango married at least three wives known as Oba, Osun and Oya. Oba was his first wife who controlled his household as the Iyale. Osun his second, a woman of immense beauty, Sango had used his dancing to attract her, and Oya his last, was his companion at battle, although he didn't pay her bride price..she had just run away from her cruel husband to Sango's arms. Why this might seem against everything traditional, it is believed that both Sango and Oya were destined to be together as Ifa had revealed through Orere, the greatest Babalawo of that time.

CONCEPTION AND EARLY LIFE OF SANGO.
Torosi, his mother was given by her father known as Elempe to Oranmiyan as a result of the treaty between them. At this time, Oyo-ile was at war with the Bariba of Borgu who wanted to subjugate the new City still under construction. Orangun Ajagunla of Ila, Oranmiyan's elder brother stormed in with his men to assist. Not long after the war was won, Oranmiyan welcomed a son Ajuwon Ajaka, much later Arabambi was born by the woman he received from Elempe Tapa, It is believed that the name "Sango" was given by his maternal grandfather or He adopted it from the local name for the God of Thunder, Either way the royal family was devoted to The Spirit of Thunder.
At a young age Arabambi played with Leopard cubs, and developed a wooden axe he carried around everywhere.
At a time he left the palace with his mother and stayed in a place later known as Koso. He became an entertainer, dancing with Masquerades. He even had his own personal drum(Bata) and drummer, he wouldn't dance to the beat of other drummers, everywhere Sango went his drummer followed him even to a fight. One day Arabambi was teased by the spectators for giving his usual tricks having nothing new to show, he decided to go to his mother's people , they gave him ingredients to make fire out of his breath.

ALAFIN SANGO
After Oranmiyan left Oyo to the hands of his son Ajaka and the Oyomesi things became bad for the people, Owu had developed into a fine kingdom with the best military around and they sought to conquer Oyo. One day Ajaka was captured by the Owu soldiers , the Oyo generals were confused and a tug of war began between them, to prevent a state of Anarchy the Oyomesi invited Arabambi. Immediately he took charge he set all the generals to thier place, joined the army himself and led the rescue mission to Owu, he brought Ajaka back but the Oyomesi dethroned him and made Sango the new Alaafin.
As Alafin he was unlike his brother who was weak and let his generals roam without order, Sango placed each of them in strategic locations to keep the Owu in check , he also made successful campaigns to liberate some villages from Owu.
Everyone feared Sango, his wives and even the Oyomesi feared him
Seeking more power he went to the Babalawo for way to make his enemies perish instantly, a charm was prepared with a fine stone that with it Sango could conjure lightening and thunder, this charm known as "Edun ara" is still made today.
Sango had become possessed by the spirit of lightening and thunder (Arira)
A fighter, Head of the Sango cult, King, dancer, military strategist he was a Legend best at everything he did, he made everything he laid his hands on to prosper.

Oya his wife found out his secret, how he was able to just bring up lightening when she found his hidden Edun ara stones, she stole some and used them for herself. When Sango found out, he confronted Oya but unlike usual he met her stand up to him, running back to the Babalawo he advised to let her be, and from then on she became his companion at battle. Oya herself was a priestess of the rain spirit having her craft and together they could bring up storms during battle

Downfall of Sango
During the late reign(7th year) of Sango, he had two generals: Timi Agbale Olofa-ina who could shoot arrows of fire and Gbonka who was equally powerful. After disobeying his direct order not to match on Owu in Battle, Sango follows Oya’s advice to get rid of them and sent them to govern the border towns of the Empire. Timi obeyed him and left for Ede but Gbonka stayed back in Oyo to pose further treat. Sango in his quest to destroy them both: sent Gbonka to Ede to capture Timi which he did. Sango who believed that the match in Ede was staged asked for a re-match in Oyo and Gbonka defeated Timi. Sango then ordered that Gbonka should be burnt to ashes. Mysteriously, he appeared after three days giving Sango ultimatum to vacate the throne for his infidelity. Sango angrily requested for his Edun-Ara from Oya, He found it wet and stained with blood from her period.
He left the palace to a high rock facing the palace to re-affirm the potency of his thunderbolt. The thunder he created stroke the palace and burnt it down. Oba and Osun; after losing everything to the inferno, left the palace angrily blaming one another for allowing Oya such access to Sango and fearing for their lives, returned to their homeland Osun to Igede and Oba to Igbon where they were immortalised into Rivers by their people, Oya on her part after hearing of Sango's death went back to the forest in Nupeland where Sango found her and possibly drowned in the Niger river later named after her.

At the disaster which extended to large parts of the city caused by Sango, some groups began a riot, cursing Sango and demanding his removal.
heartbroken he left the City followed by the chiefs and members of his royal cult known as Baba-Mogba persuading him not to leave. After an unyielding persuasion, the chiefs went back as they approach an Ayan tree in the place called koso with the news that the king has hanged. But another story told by only a few of the Baba-Mogba who did not go back:
Sango was attacked by Gbonka but Sango unwilling to fight varnished into thin air only to appear in the sky to destroy Gbonka and those peddling the rumors that he hanged. – Hence the popular saying OBAKOSO OR OLUKOSO meaning the king did not hang.

ORIKI
Sango Olukoso
Akata yeri yeri
Arabambi Oko Oya
Alaafin, ekun bu, a sa
Eleyinju ogunna
Olukoso lalu
Ina l'oju Ina l'enu
A ri igba ota, sete
O fi alapa segun ota re

ololo12:
You Yorubas and Igbos are the problem. We have in this country. Outside the shores of Nigeria, nobody gives a Bleep about your tribe or ethnicity, they see you as a Nigerian. You people are a disgrace, always washing your dirty linen in full glare of the public. Bunch of low IQ tribalistic bigot

Then maybe Nigeria should just disintegrate already

Ikorodu is in chaos now because of this new Oba. It is said that he didn't go through all the required rituals

amor4ce:
Yoruba is not Omo Oodua and Omo Oodua is not Yoruba. Else, prove that the Ketu, Popo, Sabe/Save, Ga, Ulukumi, Gbe, Mina, Ewe, Itsekiri, etc. families who are Omo Oodua are also Yoruba. Before colonialism only Oyo was referred to as Yoruba, and when colonialism is over the name Yoruba will not be forced down the throats of others. Oyo/Yoruba caused a lot of problems in a vain attempt to be seen as the one in charge, and the colonialists took advantage of the crisis to divide and rule the Omo Oodua.

Oduduwa is the ancestor of the Yoruba, but others who are non-Yorubas have Oduduwa as their ancestor as well. How is this nonsense when it is a well-acknowledged fact?

Gbe, Ulukumi, Ewe, Mina, Ga are omo Oodua ? How please? Do these people acknowledge that? While Ulukumi speak a dialect of Yoruba (its nt called a dialect of "omo Oodua" i doubt that they acknowledge Oduduwa...I expected to see Bini
You seem not to understand the point here, Yoruba/omo Oodua/Omo Karo ojire all refer to one people. ..I don't know why you want to plant seed of disunity among the yoruba people with this

And to your "well acknowledged fact" you should know that not all Yorubas have an ancestral link to Oduduwa, some whole towns don't especially in the Okun/Ekiti area

Kay17:
But has the religion evolved to the needs of modern times?

Why would you call Sango devotion a religion?

Rilwayne001:
hummm..really? any prove?



Lol. So, you are now comparing jesus with sango.

Jesus was condemned to death by those who felt he has come to spoil their business. Was sango condemned to death? NO. Sango got tired of this world and went on to hang himself. And as we a know, only cowards commit suicide.



Have you ever seen sango answered by fire? Why does sango requires his believers to worship him?

Why don't you go learn what it takes to call yourself yoruba. All this here just exposes how much you are lost

veeberry:
All seeing eye is watching.

certainly not Jehova's

We humans are disgusting with meat, one man's meat is another man's taboo

amor4ce:
How is what I wrote nonsense? Your bad character as indicated in the nature of your reaction to opinions that differ from yours is the reason I've avoided any discussion with you on this forum.

your putting "yoruba" and "omo Oodua" as different things is what I mean by nonsense.
Am I supposed to care about what you think about me? Do I know you?

He means at what point in the movie scenes does Paul stop and his brother takes his role

Am I right op?

AmunRaOlodumare:
What do you think about Akintoye's book? Have you read it?

No I haven't but I read about him and his activities as a professor of history at OAU, he seems like a serious man

BLOTRS:
with the support of which other region? the power hungry north? or the SE/SS you betrayed? yorubas should forget ever ruling this country again

What is wrong with you stupid illiterates? YORUBA betrayed nobody, it's GEJ that betrayed the Yoruba
even at that many still supported him.
He was truly incompetent and marginalized the yoruba

If you igbos cannot go 4 years then go to war for your biafra already

asadike:
pls keep your trade mark to yourself. everyone knows d greedy and lazy tribe here, always trying to reap where they did not sow. ndi yoruba, tufiakwa.

you are very foolish indeed. In the history of this damned country Yoruba have been the ones giving while your kin reap from us

I don't know why some illiterates are saying SW is being short changed by the current administration that just began
Its too early to start this nonsense about personal ambition of some yoruba politicians. . It doesn't benefit anybody but their families
Even if you want to play that game, GEJ tenure was worse in this regard. ..No single yoruba man in a top position

amor4ce:
Ogbe Alara is the odu of our (omo oduduwa) nation, and these colours are not its. Perhaps Oyo (Yoruba) whose odu is Okanran meji can adopt it. I am Omo Oduduwa but not Yoruba.

Oh please this is nonsense. Stop this ethnic crisis
The name "yoruba" has come and stuck

Starships4u:
Guy mind ur tribe.... Who has requested such of your tribe....

This is really sad

Yet Johnson's book had a lot that cannot be tagged yoruba oral history because he got them from wrong sources

komzyb:
I prefer dog meat to pork meat..but i eat both though.....

are you calabar?

dovelike:
Are you going to keep it? That's gross

gross why?

Rilwayne001:
I thought according to the story of sango, he hanged himself out of hanger at the end of the day, is that true?

Is this the answer to my question

Good idea.

Let AAs be exposed to Africa

Why do people think 7 is a Yoruba number?
I would say 16 (merindinlogun)

16 Oju-odu
16 Princes of Ife

Rilwayne001:
Lol.

What's funny?

Kemizee:
German mostly produce V as F and and W as V..That car is a German Car.It's not English

yes you are correct it's Germany's second largest auto company after the makers of BMW

Tiwa savage is a lagosian from Isale-Eko

FrancisTony:
What God has put together, no man should put assunder... Mark 10.9

That sums it all...

if you have nothing to say why don't you keep quiet?

dunkem21:
I blame the clueless one, GEJ

The hatred is just eating you up