₦airaland Forum

Timoleon:
As much as i prefer the apc to pdp, i think this is a show of shame! fayose did this and we castigated him for this gimmick now ambo why are u doin dis? we know u r not one of us.

hypocrisy- dats the worst
We don't need hypocrites in Lagos

solasalako:
Tell me something- can u compare FAYOSE and AMBODE? Being politicians apart, are they in the same calibre?

By their tricks we shall know them

Bruteforce1o1:
Meanwhile Jimi the chemist keep yarning trash everywhere...

Lol he never said this

Apc liars

JK is Ok!

If Ambode likes let him buy groundnut, Agbaje has already won our hearts

viceldo:
I'M IN.........


yes i can tel u how JESUS solved d problm of Nigeria ( BY TAKIN EBOLA OUT OF NIGERIA) to stp ppl frm bathin wit salt nd water


I'M OUT......

Tell us how many ebola patients were healed in the church through prayers
And how many were healed in the hospital through medications and diligent health scheme

Fools. Tattoo is African
Africans practically invented the thing

vooks:
Son of perdition, repent or perish

pinkycute:
Story for d gods

Look at those the OP is talking to. Best u listen and pick up ur brains where u left it

Emusan:
The Bible may or may not be inspired by God – we haven’t proved it yet, one way or the other – but it is nonetheless a historical document. A document that has been dated, depending on which book of the Bible and who you ask, at between 1900 and 3500 years ago. No one, no matter how skeptical, dates any part of the Old Testament at later than 2000 years ago. So then it is an absolute fact that this is an ancient document.

We have vast multitudes of independent writings – not only in the New Testament, but throughout the world – which were written 2000 years ago and speak of the antiquity of many books of the Old Testament even then.
So let us look at some of the things in those books that only a God could have known. Things that no man has ever known, or could conceivably have known, until our century. For this would prove that someone greater than a man had written those books.

1. Job 38:24 By what way is the light parted, which scattereth the east wind upon the earth?
This particular question demands of Job how the light was parted (by day into night) and how that light makes the east wind blow. Now we today, can answer that question. Job could not.

2. Isaiah 40:22 It is He who sits above the circle of the earth,.... Maps of the Earth from the times of Mesopotamia, when Job was most likely written, and even much later, portrayed a flat earth, sometimes round in the midst of an infinite ocean.

3. Job 38:16 Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? or hast thou walked in the search of the depth?
We didn’t “walk in search of the depth [of the sea] “the deepest part of the ocean, until 1875 when we discovered the deepest point on Earth, the Challenger Deep in the Marianas Trench (although we weren’t sure it was the deepest point until much later). We didn’t fully survey it until 1951. We didn’t actually “walk” in it until 1960! But how does this prove the existence of God? Simply the fact that in most ancient cultures, the ocean HAD no bottom! The Greek word abyss , used for the deep ocean, literally means “bottomless”! And 3500 years ago, only God could have known with such certainty that the ocean did in fact have a “depth”! In the same verse; Why would there be water pouring INTO the sea from underground – the sea is where water came from! And mankind for all his technological achievements didn’t discover underwater springs until 1949 – A.D.! Almost four millennium after Job was written! And even then, it wasn’t confirmed until 1960, and it wasn’t until 1979 that human beings first saw deep-sea springs with their own eyes!

4. Job 38:18 Hast thou perceived the breadth of the earth? declare if thou knowest it all.
Man didn’t measure the circumference (“breadth”) of the Earth with even remote accuracy until Eratosthenes did it in about 240 BC. But God knew exactly how large it was. For He sits “above the circle of it”.

5. Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.
According to everyone before 570 BC, the Earth was flat. Even then, and for millennia afterwards, the Earth was held up by something. For the Greeks it was on the shoulders of the god Atlas. For the American-Indians it was supported on the back of a giant turtle. Other cultures believed it was on the back of a hog, water buffalo, snake, or elephant. These ideas had the delightful side-benefit of explaining earthquakes, since it logically follows the theory that if Earth was on an elephant’s back and the elephant itched, the Earth would move.
The idea of the Earth literally hanging on NOTHING – as in, an Earth in free-fall through space – was one that no ancient mind could have grasped. Newton’s famous “apple incident” gave us the first real clue as to how gravity operated to control bodies at great distances. But 3500 years ago? Only God could have known!

6. Job 38:25 Who hath divided a watercourse for the overflowing of waters, or a way for the lightning of thunder; As primitive man sought answers about the natural world, lightning became a part of his superstitions, his myths and his early religions.

For more
Http://thesimpleanswers.com/2009/08/08/does-god-exist/

Seek Ifa, all these and more in the bible were perfected by West African ancestors.
West Africans aren't greeks

johnw74:
Act 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
Act 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
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Can u tell us how Jesus has solved problems for any nation?

johnydon22:
Please bro how is all these things you mentioned here different from the attributes of the old testament yahweh? Human sacrifice (almost used isaac, jesophaths daughter, and even his own son jesus) animal sacrifice and ethnical cleansing, infanticides... why dont you start condemning from here... This is one thing with religion. everybody so quick to point out the flaws in others but ignore that same flaw existing within their own order, i think somehow they think theirs is different...

It's called hypocrisy...this is the core character of religionists especially Christians

truthman2012:
Threatening to chop off your neck?

No, threatening to roast me

EnlightenedSoul:
On the contrary, I think Africa needs to put her focus towards the future, and stop living in it's past to escape the present. The 'glory' of ancestors never saved anyone - it was their glory after all, and not ours.

I knew the above information beforehand, and I hold it as interesting and important for historical information's sake, but beyond that it's not of any use to us today. How does that obvious truth constitute to Arab-buttlicking? I understand that your main point of interest is Africans taking on ancestral religion - which is fine - but that does absolutely nothing re-focus Africa.

And how ironic is it that by bringing them up every which where for no particular reason, you're the one butt-licking Arabs and making them relevant?

Rebuilding and improving on Glory of ancestors past is the only way to rebuilding Great nations in Africa..we are naturally cultural people, and the ways of semites and aryans that we follow today has served us absolutely no gain instead it has destroyed our system, driven us crazy and more diverse than ever.
Africa cannot be united as one, even Europe.cannot...but we can take pride in our history.and heritage, learn from our own ancestors for change, for nothing less than 3 centuries we have given our all to follow ways strange to our nature and we have suffered for it, first the Arabs nd later the Europeans.
we don't have peace but religious violence, we don't have unity in our countries but ethnic diversity...who brought this upon Africa? The same people we want to keep following like sheep

MrPresident1:
macof macof, how are you? How are your imoles and irunmole demons doing?

You fool, The Imoles aren't demons but Spirits of light, active forces of our existence

herald9:
Mr Goosebaba, You're so uncouth,with cognitive dissonance.. I was right afterall when I said you have comprehension problem....I asked of your achievements and your telling me about your ambitions...

So Theists don't lend a helping hand,they only just pray? Stop being naive... Follow others and learn...


#bye

Omg!,see the fool lacking in comprehension accusing someone else of his own offence in the same post

herald9:
@Goosebaba they didn't 'invent' thoughts...they 'refined' our way of thinking and brought about the concepts of Deism and others...

Undoubtedly, the pre-colonial Africa had their own system of government. But in this system,there was nothing like separation of power... thus the king possessed absolute power and used the military to defend his sovereignty. As we all know that absolute power corrupts absolutely, we had many cases were kings became heartless dictators,etc. But with the intervention of the Europeans,we are now operating a Democratic system of government which you now have freedom to criticize your government and go scot-free.

Sure,we traded with the British perfectly... But what were we trading on? Millions of people were pulled out of their homes as a result of slave raids,communities clashed against each other,blinded with greed and lust for power, Africans saw themselves as goodies for making money till it became a war of survival of the fittest -So much for a thinking ancestors ...It was only with the rise of industrial revolution in Britain that the focus shifted from slave thread to raw materials for factories...

You and your cohort are just suffering from stolen, undiluted pride(pazienza park well )

I can see you've not benefitted much from their enlightenment, that's why you went from believing in witchcraft and other bogus superstitions to the believe in exploding atoms that gave birth to the universe ...

I'm not saying we should worship them...like I said before,give credit to whom credit is due.

I think we've digressed from the main topic...If you still don't wanna give up...we can battle this out on another thread.

BTW,happy Sunday

This is why History is very important. Africans like this fool here lack knowledge in history of Africa.
I don't know what hole u scrawled out of claiming enlightenment but certainly u need to seek ur European givers of enlightenment, maybe they can direct you and give u their shit to eat...idiot!

herald9:
@Goosebaba...You're plowing out of line...our focus was on the inventors of Deism...

I told you that the concept of Deism originated from the west...so I had every right to quote any western author to support my assertion... but you tried to counter me by saying the belief was still there even before the invasion of Europe...



So I don't really know how you arrived at that epistle you wrote there... it's very incoherent and off topic ...

Now to your question on how the Europeans enlightened Africa... It's only an ingrate that will refuse to acknowledge the source of his success.

-The Europeans espoused the use of reason and science as a universal method for obtaining knowledge and solving human problems.

-Their enlightenment freed we Africans from the darkness of ignorance, the burden of false/barbaric beliefs, and the destructive influence of prejudices and superstition.

-They brought about the believe in liberty,equality,secular society, democracy and in the potential of education, science and technology which in turn improved our condition - reducing poverty, misery and diseases.

So the Western world played a big role in the transformation of Africa... No amount of arguments can override that...So again, give credit to whom credit is due.
You're a big beneficiary of this enlightenment,if not,you wouldn't have been punching that keyboard to write that... You'd have probably been a hut,casting cowries to decide who's next to be sacrificed to appease angry gods.

herald9:
You mean while you were still worshipping Ifa, Sango, Oduduwa, etc you knew about atheism and Deism... Hmmm for this blatant lie...you deserved to be crucified.

Please go study the history of your country and stop displaying 9:29pm ignorance...
The whitemen are the source of our enlightenment... Give credits to whom credit is due...without them,we'd still be licking asses of the gods.




You mean we've no other purpose apart that of reproduction?


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best to leave this fool in his folly. I see just mental slavery and lack of knowledge

Pr0ton:
Except what led to your faith isn't based on faith then it's no longer faith. Faith deals with assumption which is still faith.




Guess plaetton has answered you on that one.

Your only assured by assumptions that Chelsea would beat West brom. The result, in the end, may favour your view, and it may not. It doesn't neccessarily give you the future it only gives you the possibility.

Yes simply possibility, this feeling of assurance is truly of assumption as you've said but assumption borne out of thoughts, weighing the sides and reaching a conclusion
#Myaccount


Forgive the previous error of mine, I was greatly misunderstood...I hope I am clearer now

plaetton:
@macof,

I think you are confusing faith with conviction.
They are two different things.
Faith is usually grounded on more faith, perhaps grounded on cascades of myth or legend piled on top each other.

Conviction , on the other hand, is grounded on knowledge, experience, statistical extrapolation, observation or other forms of anecdotal evidence.

I kept u hanging for a while...sorry about that

Dear plaetton, by my understanding of human feelings I find that the only difference between faith and conviction is certainty

I admit tho reading my previous post, it seemed i was taking Faith as conviction...I was truly mixing few things up which I will like to clear out and retract some statements

I said faith is "assurance and confidence in things expected" even the Bible backs me up here (Hebrew 11:1)
I see it rather grounded on hope nt more faith, I don't really get what you meant there

But if u don't have a problem with my definition above, pls explain what Could possibly give assurance of things not seen, if not deduction?
Bare in mind that such analysis can prove to be wrong with time...it's still assumption regardless

tpiaobsession:
any proof for this claim of yours?

some religions are anti intelligence, not all.

Depends on what serves as proof to you

SalC:
Lol this is the most hilarious thread in recent times! Confusion all over!!

God is of the Jews....no he is not...

God is a man.....No God is not a man

No one has seen God....No his back has been seen only his face is yet to be seen

The law is divided.......no the law is not divided

Jesus came for man...no he did not come for man

You are confused....No you are the confused one

You are not talking scriptures.....you are not using your common sense

You are fast leaning towards atheism but please try the religion of your ancestors on your road to atheism....no am just evolving. ( Probably from Dryopithecus to Homo erectus)

Lol confusion continua... That's what happens when we read our emotions into the scriptures claiming we are being guided by the "Holy Spirit"

LORD have mercy!!!

praise be to the holy spirit for providing the Christians with spiritual weed

nep2ra:

How do you know?

Have you seen God before?

Lmao he has seen his god with a big erection injected into a Virgin

Bidam:
Moral law which is universal.It is what embodies LOVE.

Moral law is not universal...it never was and probably never will.
Chk history, look at modern society

This is a well known fact stop ur nonsense borne out of ur need to twist the Bible

frosbel:
Salvation coming through a Jewish man does not mean that God is a Jewish God, that will be insane. How can we put God in a box and restrict him to a single race ?

Ur God put himself in a box when he supposedly came as a Jewish man

frosbel:
God has no chosen race, that would be racism !

But the Bible is racism, do you see it? Abraham, Isaac, Jacob...Israel as a nation
the Bible god was most discriminate in their favour

Tranglatar:
They kept on missing the solution to their problems that HE sent HIS only begotten SON that they/we may have LIFE in full. Hence we are witnesses of special orders that those that lived before Christianity. How blessed are we, that follow HIS only begotten SON

Yet nations were better off before christianity
Nubia, Egypt, Rome etc.
Explain to us how the solutions never came before ur Jesus?

Igarra has a lot of afemai presence but they aren't native to the land
It's Akoko

BABAAGBALABA:
man many, i just cant post d pics but i give point and u google it ,
1)-> building of houses and buildings taller than mountains in mecca
2)removing of mountains from mecca (many mountains have been removed for more space for constructions now)
3) a shadow casted on d kaaba (ryte now d clock tower AS SAAD is casting a shadow on d kaaba)
4) holes passing through i d mountains of mecca (roads are now builded thru d mountains in mecca)
5) poor desert people becoming reach peoles (check d dubai ,meeca ,medinah of before and now)
6)people behaving like animals (u dont need me to explain dat for you
7)people talking to each other through their palms (telephones) etc

Lmao ok ok...but at least let's see Quranic verses

truthman2012:
Proof required

You mind taking time to come to my neighborhood at Ikorodu to listen to the nonsense called evangelism and preaching?

Why do you people take madmen like the OP seriously. He obviously hates church preachings nd seeks to form is heretic ideas

This same Mr. president is known to drool over d image of Hebrews in the Bible to the extent of idiotically claiming Sub-Saharan Africans are descended from his Jewish masters

MrPresident1:
In Adam is Eve; everyman is created in pairs, in the image of God (Genesis 1:27).

Adam is the cover name for both of them, Eve is Mrs. Adam, and they are one flesh.

Adam (and Eve) are the Negroes of today, dispersed and downtrodden everywhere they find themselves.

Lamentations 2:9
Her gates are sunk into the ground; he hath destroyed and broken her bars: her king and her princes are among the Gentiles: the law is no more; her prophets also find no vision from the Lord.

Deuteronomy 32:26
I said, I would scatter them into corners, I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men:

We are scattered and dispersed and downtrodden around the whole world, and the famous tribulations that the adherents of Christianity are always talking about is the slave trade, colonialism, unfair trade practices, and mental death. The tribulations are now ending.

The coming of Christ is the salvation of the Negroes.

Yet Adam and Eve myth doesn't exist in Africa...we had to read it from a Romano-Judaic book
Yet the dead jew Jesus never lived among Negros

You have a serious mental condition

GooseBaba:
Hmmmm.. If you have a problem of non negros oppressing negro but you are eagerly awaiting your own divine opportunity to oppress your oppressors. Is that not backwards mentality...

Also,this same scriptures has no master hence your oppressors used your own divine words of your god to enslave you because your god punished your forebears for their transgression and disobedience.

Now the question remains.. Why do you want to oppress your oppressors when their actions was/is sanctioned by your god..? Help me understand.

Lmao u got him with this one

The caucasians are d enemy, d oppressors yet the Bible was their tool to oppress you
This guy has a mental problem I tell you