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This Puntite is so jobless, can't believe you created another account just to keep trolling

barwaaqo:
You are pulling leg here

no, I really want to know where u get your information from

EnlightenedSoul:
I see what you're trying to say, but that's relative. Typically, the 'better' option for anyone is the religion they were raised on - the one they're familiar with and already know. Even though I'm irreligious, I was raised on Allah and my parents worship Allah, and in that sense I have to respect that. Waaq, on the other hand, was abandoned en masse by long gone ancestors completely by choice for whatever reason. There's an obvious disconnect there. I don't feel any particular pull towards the religion (or any other for that matter), and as such it assumes the position of all the other thousands of unfamiliar religions out there.

I disagree. I was raised in a religion too, but now I realize, am better off away from that religion.
It all boils down to knowledge and reality of mind. so what stops an African from knowing his ethnic beliefs?

Indeed, I did not know this. That's intriguing. Flexible. Can you go as far as a worshipping him as Allah, or Jesus?

No

Science doesn't discriminate. It belongs to whoever builds upon it. The same scientific principles that govern the 'West', Asia, and the Arab world, also govern Africa - we're on the same planet after all. As stated in the previous post, I do believe in holding on to our heritage and ancestral knowledge as well. I'm not sure I completely follow you? Care to expand?

Exactly my point so why don't we look to Africa for scientific knowledge? Why the West all the time? African education has a lot to offer the world of science but when the Africans aren't interested how can the world be?

gatiano:
Nice one bro, you're proud of what you believe and willing to share its knowledge. If Ori is destiny, Then what is Ayonmo? or/and Ikosile? Truely, there is nothing called coincidence.

Ori is consciousness,our spirit, our guardian, our creator, our destiny, our spiritual power
It is Ori that created us in the family we met ourselves, it is Ori that guides our body for the benefit of our soul

Ifa says in Ajule Orun, before we came to life, We pick our Ori infront of Eledumare...this Ori serves as Eledumare's presence in us..."The spirit of God"
It directs our moves, it protects us, and sees us through to our destined greatness

Ifa says no prayer or ritual to Orisha can work for you if Ori doesn't wish it

Ayanmo means choice(from Orun) It is our ori that is that choice we must stick with to achieve Kadara(destiny)
Ikosile could refer to a whole bunch of things depending on perspective...maybe what you mean is "ikosedaye"

EnlightenedSoul:
I agree with the importance of taking pride in the knowledge of our history and heritage, but I don't think literally following the ways of our ancestors is necessary. Do I think I need to start worshipping Waaq? No, I don't.

So If I from Djibouti start to worship Waaq, and you from Nigeria worship Sango(?), isn't that just as much religious and ethnic diversity as we began with?

It's high time Africans start thinking beyond ethnicity, and religion. Especially religion. It isn't working.

We need development and innovation. We need science.

No you don't need to worship Waaq, but an African certainly don't need Allah when you have a better, African option.

You see if you weren't a novice on Traditional systems you would know that pagans are identified only by ethnicity and nothing else. language nd culture makes the ethnicity, we all have the same spirituality coded in different myths. i can worship Sango in my home country and go to Benin/Togo and worship him with the Fon and Aja in a Xevioso temple, I can go as far as Germany and worship him as Thor.

I agree we should think past religion,.because it doesn't benefit us, our African ancestors were nt religious, they were cultural...our spiritual beliefs are reflected in our culture and traditions. In my native language Yoruba we didn't even have a word for religion until Islam converts. Religion is a foreign concept to us

we need science Yes!...but scientific knowledge from the West, Arabs or Within Africa? Cus if you reject our ancestors knowledge how can we develop scientifically when we are only following the West and Arabs while ignoring the beautiful knowledge in our fast dying heritage? You think African ancestors were idiots who didn't have scientific knowledge?

IBB and Obasanjo the two criminals that dropped Nigeria's Social standard and Economy endorsing the one that put people in prison indiscriminately on grounds of corruption...if buhari wins and IBB and OBJ aren't in kirikiri by June Buhari has started in failure cus the two most corrupt persons in Nigeria are roaming free under the so called corruption fighter

Garrithe1st:
Jonadunce is like a leper, rejected and denied by all, friends and foes alike.

Sai Buhari...

2015, the year of Change..

Look at this one suffering from idiocy, Jonathan is winning by with a landslide all over the South
the worst northern leaders can do is to push the people they deprived of education into thuggery and criminality

If death wanted to pick a Nigerian it should have taken Buhari instead

RIP Muna Obiekwe

quid:
Igbo ndi karaja akaja.

More headache for Yoruba people

bigfrancis21:
Any article suggesting Hebrew-Igbo connections draws unnecessary attention and 'shut-down attempts' from outsiders, yet the very same attempts to other tribes seem more 'deserving' of consideration.

How? This isn't about Yoruba but Africa

West Africans especially from the Volta - Niger are bond in history, so as an African history enthusiast, it's my business to defend African history nd attack madmen's claim borne out of inferiority complex and sentiments towards the people who gave them their religion

If you follow my posts at all, you would see I always defend my Yoruba history more than anything. There are many fools on here who claim Hebrew ancestry for Yoruba and I have always proved them the fool they are

As if this foolish "black Hebrews" can take over Europe or America to turn caucasians to slaves
But come to think of it, Arabs saw more pain and brutality to Negros
If at all we have Jews deep in Africa after some biblical prophecy, they would have been the Black Slaves taken to the Arab world from east and central Africa

No jews in West Africa, not even Igbos are Jews in anyway

barwaaqo:
Punt was a trading source old egypt traces it origins to the rwenzori mountains in uganda

I would love to know your sources for this

PastorAIO:
Okay, I must have misunderstood you. I thought you were implying that not knowing God's location suggests that God may not exist.

So you are really saying that you don't think Christians know God as well as they presume because they don't know his location. I don't think many christians will disagree with you. Our knowledge of God is limited. That's a fact, and one that I'm comfortable with.

No, am saying Christians don't know their God at all

throughout this thread we have seen complete misinformation nd ignorance over the issue of the Bible god's location by his own servants

it all boils down to a lack of true spirituality in christianity and how the Bible is more a cartoon tale than spiritual knowledge

A woman who didn't start from scratch with the husband should go and work
unless she had kids...especially Male for the man

^^^ More bullshiit from madmen

cheruv:
makof,the Greeks weren't unitedCONQUERED till king Filip of Macedonia came around. when Filip died at the hands of an assassin,Alexander took the Greeks his father had unitedCONQUERED at the battle of Chaeronea to embark on a worldwide conquest. the fact that the Eastern parts of Rome which later became Byzantine was Greek in outlook and language is a testament to the conquests of Alexander Megali

Maybe you want reference but Macedonia was an empire not the capital of a nation. And there's no trace of unity in the Hellas during that time
Alexander tried uniting his territories with Asia culturally but uniting all Greeks as one Nation was never an issue

Byzantine's love for Hellenism wasn't a result of Greek supremacy, the earlier Romans were always fascinated by the Greeks and incorporated much of the Hellenic culture and language...Scholars have even come to say the Roman political and military captors were cultural captives to the greeks

GooseBaba:
Verily verily i say unto you Mrprisinner....a demented bush fowl like you who looks forward to ra,ping edomite women in the name of divine opportunity to become a slave owner. This is what you call salvation...

A sadistic god with his demented follower...No wonder You still cannot refute my statement. Your god is a covk suvking ra,pist...

With your pre,rap,ist salvation.. Is this what you hope to be doing in your new world.



https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/2016746_20150111081612_jpeg5e59497b139a7b02e2ea716918d5e0c7

That's wat he is looking forward to...rapin naked white women

Blakjewelry:
Brother whichever way we look at it Greek was once a world power. Weather it is politically or culturally, politically their military might got to zenith even though they didn't Unite in one front and exert their influence on other nations, they were at a time in history one of the greatest independent empire then known world. Apart from their infighting I bet no nation then will want to cross their part. Then culturally they also made their mark

Ok bro. I jst wanted to point that out

FrancisTony:
Dhuh. Read to understand.

That's an after-life judgement.

Sharrap you shari'a lover where's d after-life judgement in dat passage?
na so una go dey pretend sey u no dey flirt...Christians?? Tufiakwa!

FrancisTony:
What leads to boyfriend and girlfriend relationship if it's not lust?
There's no crime in having a girl or boy that's your friend- that's just platonic friendship without a string attached.
When you guys starts kissing & carelessing each others, then it's a sin.

Job 31:11-12 New Living Translation (NLT)

11 For lust is a shameful sin,
a crime that should be punished.

12 It is a fire that burns all the way to hell. [ a ]
It would wipe out everything I own.

you would really like shari'a

Tranglatar:
We are on a pilgrimage and HE came to show us the way because HE is the Way. Every and any other things we encounter (problems, challenges, etc) are just along the route. We have to focus on reaching our destination via the WAY. And to overcome/ solve those problems/ challenges, ensure first you are on the WAY, the aply HIS solutions as given already in HIS Word



We have the freedom of choice. You can chose to follow HIM as the WAY or continue struggling to find out how the Nubian, Egyptians, Roman fared in their way. You may decide to give HIM a chance or "trial" or not. the choice is yours.

My only explanation on how/ as to why the solutions never came before OUR LORD JESUS (i'm so happy you referred to HIM as my JESUS but then HE is much more than us all) is by HIS Word which it seems you don't believe.

Jst explain how the world has been better off with christianity nd quit ur yapping

tpiaP:
how are the people waanking to the pictures, suffering?

Then would you gladly go naked by order of some caucasian perverts?

barwaaqo:
Same place same goal

It's best we don't argue about this.. It's a waste of time arguing about Europeans...I rather talk Africa

Blakjewelry:
Yeah but remember that they were world power then, just like today not everyone believes in the Christian or Islam God. I think one day all these will pass away and we will refer to them as myth or fiction

Bros, At what point did Greece become world power? Greece was never united until much after Roman conquest
They were scattered as Spartans, Macedonians, Thessalonians, Creteans, Athenians and over 20 more. so how did they all become the world power?

You would have been right if u said Hellenism (the culture of the greeks) was a world power due to it's spread by Rome and Macedonia but not the Greek people being a world power

truthman2012:
But it is only you I know who have made this type of complaint. Why only you?

Am nt the only one...you don't listen that's why

Africa has suffered

mistytohcute:
this your list is too short,i'm very sure there are about a 100 more gods and goddesses including titans

If you mean to mention every single character it would be above 500
Titans
Olympians
Muses
Nymphs
Fates
and the few ones that came before the Titans

Blakjewelry:
You call them fictional because their era has past, back then then they were real has the one mankind worship the day

Only by the greeks and those influenced by them eg. Italians, Thracians and Gauls
tho they were sometimes known with different names and slightly different myths

The Fates : Goddesses of destiny and Fate

GooseBaba:
I hope this thread puts you in the path of "critical thinking " because you are clearly a disgrace to yourself..

The guy is suffering from a critical case of inferiority complex, it's prevalent among our people
It's No wonder Africa is a mess

barwaaqo:
Thats fine and shame on europe but we are africans. Europe was a filthy little diseased place once men would kill just to have a clean dish.

They were united when they carved up africa. I dont know why we disregard that fact when talking about their unity europeans benefited enormously from it.

The europe we know today wouldn't exist without those resources to develop them.

Europe has never been united, They fight, they make agreements but they aren't united
I don't even care about Europe anyway, so why not forget them and think Africa

truthman2012:
So, you were just going gently on your own and they came out of the church and threaten to roast you? It is a serious matter.

Exactly! unless I turn and bow to a Jewish idol

truthman2012:
Roast you?

What did you alone do to them?

nothing...thats wat religious extremism brings