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LordReed:
[s]Bwahahahahaha! OMFD you're an absolute dung heap[/s]. How long a drug has been used to treat one ailment is no indication of how effective it would be against another ailment. [s]You'd know this if you had enough time to take your head out of Trump's arse. There is no corroboration that HCQ is effective against Covid-19, I dunno why why your shit for brains can't at least come to terms with this simple fact. Oh wait you're a zombie so maybe it's too much to expect[/s].

If someone was not experiencing a headache will it be apparent what tylenol or panadol was doing in the system? You sound so uneducated. The HCQ pill in the system of one suffering from Lupus does not have enough intelligence to know if another host is suffering from COVID-19. LOL. It is simply absorbed into the system and goes to work from there.

What is risible is how HCQ dose is usually 50- 100 mg yet when "experts" wanted to test it on COVID-19 patients, they were giving them 1200-2400 mg. 24 to 48 times the regular dose - just to kill them.

Meanwhile, more than 100 doctors in the USA alone, have had 100% success rate with the same HCQ, yet the mainstream media refuses to give them coverage. LOL

budaatum:
Its not just the death numbers that matter but the number of people who fall ill and who, if left untreated, would have died.

Go read up about the overwhelming of health services around the world if you can understand it. Post what you find so I know you bothered.

No offence but this is hogwash. Overwhelming where? You mean health care workers that stopped having shifts since February 2020? You mean health services that are uploading videos dancing in hospitals? You know you cannot fire health care workers during a so-called pandemic? Find out how many health care workers lost their jobs in 2020 alone. I can bring links but you should do your own research.

budaatum:
Is the earth not flat!

Continue to cover your eyes very well so you can refuse to see the facts.

You are posting laughable links with distorted reasoning embedded in the articles.

In your link, there were 2.9 M deaths in 2019. In 2020 they claim that there were 3.3 M deaths. But if one reads through the article they state that 0.09M deaths due to overdose alone (a record in US history far higher than previous years), another article states 0.020 M deaths from gunshots alone ( a record again), suicide deaths (0.045 M) these 3 already account for 0.15 M which reduces that toll to 3.15 M.

Next, your article claims that the data they were fact-checking only considered death tolls from Feb - Dec and that those numbers were only provisional. Which means the CDC, backlogged deaths from December 2019 ending and added to it to January 2020 and then added it to the death toll for 2020. That is voodoo analysis. No wonder they are not the same excel sheet for 2019 on their website. That notwithstanding, the January 2020 death toll was 0.164M. 3.15 M- 0.164 M = ~ 2.9 M. That is why they started doing voodoo analysis for something as easy as death toll.

You can keep reading junk articles created to muddy the waters and deceive the unsuspecting. Not me. LOL

budaatum:
So, the fact that a person caught coronavirus and died of a heart attack they might not have died of without coronavirus has nothing to do with coronavirus?

I get you. We can ignore all those suicides who died because they lost someone to coronavirus too.

That is why I asked you if you know what a comobordity is. During peak flu seasons in time past up to 2019 if someone died of a heart attack whilst testing positive to the flu NOBODY ruled it as a flu death. Same with cancer, TB, COPD etc. Until COVID19.

Remember, I am not saying there is nothing like COVID-19. There is. I am saying 1. it has not killed as many people as claimed. 2. Even with the fake numbers, the death toll world over is the same as 2018 and 2019 when there was no COVID-19. Therefore, this is a fake pandemic.

FatherOfJesus:
Maestro21, ok I want to be serious now and for the purpose of those that want to learn.

“Viruses don’t exist in nature” is a ridiculous statement to make.
99.9% all viruses today are natural, there are millions of specie of viruses in the world that we have not even identified.

[s]The idea of saying That Coronaviruses, HIV were developed in the lab is ridiculous as well, the tool required to edit RNA (because these viruses are RNA viruses) was invented in 1987, although we could edit other DNA-based organisms using recombinant DNA method but that won’t work for RNA viruses. Coronaviruses have been identified since 1965 and HIV since 1980.[/s]

[s]Don’t try to defend the junk science your pastor presented rather try to find the truth. It’s even so difficult for anyone to hide a genetically engineered virus, you have to use an already existing template of virus to do that, it will be easily spotted.[/s]

You are merely regurgitating trash that they feed people who lack comprehension and critical reasoning skills. Nobody said viruses don't exist in nature. If you find where it was said, please provide it. You guys lie, twist words and employ strawman arguments because you know you are out of your depth.

I ruled out the rest of your hogwash as I will not be educating a troll free of charge. Read up on Judy Mikovits like I recommended yesterday (preferably use duckduckgo browser as google is preventing people like you from seeing real information). You may also want to read up on Dr.Sucharit Bhakdi.

As for your other argument about CORONAVIRUSES. I told you, go to school to learn how to understand. Not all coronaviruses were engineered. However, the ones I listed were engineered. You can argue with your mirror.

budaatum:
Aha, my Lord! That's what it is! The 2.8m people did not really die of coronavirus but were just shot with bullets are now hiding somewhere waiting to be the uprising in May! How could I have forgotten that's when they will be inaugurating president orange turd!!

Have they published the date yet or is it wait and see?

You do know what Co-morbidities are? You do know that dying of COVID-19 is not the same as dying with COVID-19?

You do know that if someone died of a heart condition that they had endured for years but a PCR test showed that they had were positive for Coronavirus antibodies, the CDC asked the coroner to rule it as a COVID-19 death? LOL

LordReed:
Ever hear of the word corroboration? Does HCQ have corroboration or its the word of your lord and saviour that's enough for you?

What question?

Hahahahahahahahaha.

Each time you reply I know how ignorant you are. Does HCQ that people were taking for 65 years need corroboration? Does HCQ that WHO termed an emergency drug for 65 years need corroboration? What about Ivermectin? As soon as many other scientists announced that it works for COVID-19 guess what happened? They discontinued its sale and distribution. Hahahaha.

budaatum:
Please provide evidence for the bold statement of yours please!

Are you suggesting that the "16 percent increase in deaths from 2019," are all fake?

16% increase in deaths where? You are pulling fake statistics. The death toll is basically the same with previous years. In fact, other tolls like flu deaths are now non-existent. LOL

FatherOfJesus:
so tell us another gene editing method that can successfully edit a virus aside from CRISPR

Pastor don jam science

https://www.synthego.com/learn/genome-engineering-history

I will not be wasting words.

budaatum:
So, what you are saying is, the 80% of the 2.8m people who died of coronavirus around the world are false deaths, and the PCR tests to test their deadness is false positive?

I get you. Those dead people must be alive somewhere and will soon show themselves.

Please hola as soon as they show themselves to you please.

No, what it means is, 80% of the "positive cases" were false positives. People who had the common flu even months before taking a PCR test with 45 cycles will test positive to COVID-19 because PCR only tells you there was a CORONAVIRUS either at the time of testing or months before. It does not tell you that it was COVID-19. lol

Also, the death counts were fake. If one tested positIve for COVID-19 and died up to 28 days after, that death was attributed to COVID-19. For example, in California, hundreds of the COVID-19 dead bodies had bullet wounds in them. LOL

FatherOfJesus:
You people should focus on preaching your Jesus and leave science for experts.
How can someone that did a project on zikavirus says viruses don’t exist in nature? Even Zika virus is natural

You can lie sir

Say viruses do not USUALLY exist in nature. That is, they do not USUALLY occur naturally. English is not hard. This does not mean VIRUSES are ALL engineered. Haba. Did you steal your degree?

obonujoker:
Great. This is the truth... Many people think the great tribulation is God's wrath

Provide verses. You might learn something today.

FatherOfJesus:
How can you edit HIV that was discovered in 1980 when the cas system that opened the way for gene editing was discovered in 1987

You can lie sir

So gene editing started in 1987?

FatherOfJesus:
let me school you in gene editing.

You can also use the Cas-CLOVER method, whether clover or CRISPR, you would still need the Cas-9 enzymes, that technology doesn’t not exist then HIV was discovered.

You mean, that technology did not exist. lol

Next, if you think I am going to waste time arguing with someone who can barely string coherent sentences, you must not know me. School me? With sheeple cognition and illogic? lol

FatherOfJesus:
So tell us how you can edit a gene without CRISPR.

Tell the world the new technology for gene editing your church used in editing HIV?

Seems like most of you guys exchange your brains for cup of garri.

Someone who doesn’t understand virology would think you are making sense. Lol

How can you do a project on zikavirus genes and yet you don’t know the fundamentals of genetic engineering?
Christians lie a lot, no wonder I won’t do your religion

That is the thing with people with decrepit comprehension skills. When someone says a technology to edit genomes existed long before CRISPR it cannot be a new technology since CRISPR is the middle man. What is it with fake agnostics or atheists?

FatherOfJesus:
Bro, before you say some stupid things in science, know that this is a public forum and experts are here to counter you.

This place is not Christ embassy auditorium

I get it. You just realized you goofed because propaganda and fake captions will only take you so far in an argument. lol

FatherOfJesus:
Reel which resume.

I’m a biochemist, And you a dummy who can not identify a virus want to convince me that viruses don’t exist in nature?

We have a total more than 1million species of viruses existing today, scientist made all of them?

Are you sane at all? Do you think this place is your church?

Let me just point out why I will not be wasting words on you. In english when some says viruses are not usually naturally occuring it does not mean that they can NEVER occur naturally.

Maybe you should brush up on your comprehension before engaging me.

FatherOfJesus:
so tell me how possible it is to edit a gene without using the CRISPR-cas9 enzyme which was discovered 8years after HIV.

You should go back and get a refund from your school because you have not learnt anything.

It’s impossible to edit genes without Cas-9 pathway, even the dumbest molecular biology student knows this.

This place is not your church where you preach junk science, we have people who use their brains here.

That must mean you might be dumber than the dumbest biology student.

FatherOfJesus:
It’s impossible to have engineered HIV, this is because the technology called CRISPR used in gene editing and genetic engineering was invented years after HIV was discovered in 1980, there was no available technology to edit genes back then.

I would like to learn something new in my field from you. Listen to experts, your pastor is talking junk science

You are talking gobbledegook. Gene editing was a long established technology long before CRISPR. If you think this sort of quasi logical reasoning is what I will subject myself to, you have a long thing coming.

"Listen to experts" as though Gert Vanden Bossche is a novice or Judy Mikovits sells wigs for money. LOL

FatherOfJesus:
bro, I’m a biochemist, with masters in clinical chemistry.

You want to tell me about viruses?

One of my masters projects here in the USA was about engineering a vaccine against zika virus. I was recommending an adenoviral solution. I KNOW the history of vaccines, controversies surrounding them, how FDA approves them, the various stages of clinical trials etc. I review scientific journals in my past time. I am a researcher and graduated from a chemical engineering program under the tutelage of an authority in my area of concentration here in the U.S.A. Don't reel out your resume to me because you do not know me.

omojeesu:
Matthew 24:1-31
John 16:33
Acts 14:22
Rev. 6

We will escape the wrath of God as Noah and Lot did. The great tribulation is not the wrath of God. It is the lot of God's people: Jews and Christians.

LOL. You have not studied properly brother. The great tribulation is the wrath of God. Matthew 24 was Jesus answering a question about his 2nd coming which is not the same as the rapture although people confuse it. They are not the same.

John 16:33 is being quoted out of context. Tribulation is not the same as GREAT tribulation. Jesus said to pray that you be counted worthy to escape the wrath of God.

Acts 14 is talking about the same as verse 33 of John 16. Tribulation is NOT the same as the GREAT TRIBULATION. I don't know why you quoted Revelation 6. It says that is the wrath of God in verse 17.

FatherOfJesus:
He said Viruses are not found in nature, they are usually engineered in the lab.
That’s anti-science.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/03/26/ex-cdc-head-robert-redfield-believes-coronavirus-escaped-chinese-lab-scientists-dubious/7013982002/

Hahahaha. That is the Ex CDC boss who contradicted almost everything Trump said but turned around after he left to say the above. FYI there are many other top scientists like Nobel Prize winners who said so. That is one aspect. Next, I do not know how much propaganda you listen to but Reverend Chris was 1000% correct. Viruses are usually engineered. HIV, Ebola, MERS, SARS, and SARS-COV2 were all engineered. Nobody is denying it now. Infact, SARS-COV2 and SARS are 78% alike so people calling it "novel" were also lying to you. Believe me, not one scientist can challenge Rev. Chris on anything he has said about COVID-19. He literally provides videos of the toppest scientists in said fields then he summarizes their points.

LordReed:
See zombie don come back.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-malaria-coronavirus-pandemic-oklahoma-09e3f4db37dda112ecec70d780bc964d

AP is fake too abi. Bwahahahahaha. HCQ was never gonna be widely used and your lord and saviour took a vaccine. LMFAO.

What is happening in May? A zombie uprising? LMFAO!

I asked the guy above a question, answer it if you can. Quoting AP. You should have quoted CNN as well.

It is funny how you believe only the things about Trump or the media that you want to believe. When he talked about HCQ he was lying but when he talked about regeneron, he was definitely telling the truth.

budaatum:
Why? Is the fake Coronavirus now real after all?

Hahahahaha. I love reading posts of ignoramuses. You do know for e.g that 80% of the "positive" cases are from PCR tests whose fit for purpose is being debated and the cycles of testing has been reduced because 45 cycles were being used which indicates 80% false positives.

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Kobojunkie:
I don't care about your hangups with anyone, I simply posted that the same news is still up today even on AP.
You can always call the OK state gov office tomorrow to verify the news yourself tomorrow morning.

https://oklahoma.gov/about/contactus.html
https://www.governor.ok.gov/contact/general-info

Got it. You cannot answer my question. Thanks.

By the way, that the news is still up today does not make it legit. The news has to still be up so that agenda must agendate.

Kobojunkie:
Spamming news from Associated Press?

There is a reason I had to location-drop that I stay in the United States. AP said Hunter Biden news was russian disinformation before the elections and immediately accepted that the news was legit after the elections. If you can answer in a few words why that happened then I would engage you further on this issue. Deal?

NB: The answer to my question is why I already said the news is fake.

jared007:
Nothing new. Pastor has been chopping fines from Uk for a long time but it hasn't stopped him from exposing conspiracies of the Deep state and telling the truth.

I feel sorry for Pastors that know the truth but are keeping quiet.

The fine is for show. People think you can arbitrarily fine anyone and announce it. That is not how it works. Loveworld is hosted by Loveworld. If Ofcom could do anything they would have taken the program off air like DirectTV did in California. The moment I saw fine I laughed knowing it was nonsense.

Kobojunkie:
see link to the same story below

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-malaria-coronavirus-pandemic-oklahoma-09e3f4db37dda112ecec70d780bc964d

Hahaha.

Do you know how the real news works or will you just be spamming me with variants of the same false news?

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FatherOfJesus:
How?

Did you see him give 1 B to the ecumenical centre in Abuja? Did you see him give 1 B to BIU engineering faculty? You think 80 M is money to him? LOL. The fine na for show. If I say the earth is flat on air will I be fined?

FatherOfJesus:
What truth?
The pastor talks adulterated science and you call that truth.

Can you provide me with one thing he said that was anti-science?