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Acehart:
I didn’t know whom he was referring to. From your suspicion, I “now know” who he may have been referring to. I don’t know how old you are but when I was a kid, if someone insulted the anonymous one who farted, no one would say a word or retaliate. You have disrespected your pastor by mentioning his name in regards to Mr Ashimolowo’s comment whether Mr Chris is directly, indirectly or not responsible for the conspiracy theory.

I understand you fully.

But like I said, it is an open secret.

I don't defend my Pastor except he is being misrepresented.

I am here because people including Pst Matthew think he said 5G causes Coronavirus and that 5G is of the antichrist. That is all.

If he was throwing shade at what my Pastor ACTUALLY said, I would leave him to God.

Staphylococcus:
You have shifted to Tobacco.

You have a big problem.

Analogy.

The company trying to sell me something that may be harmful is not who I will call to ask about side effects.

Even drug companies had to announce side effects. Why? Because they had a history of not telling people dangers of using some drugs.

Marie Curie died because she was exposing herself to radiation whilst discovering some radioactive elements.

If she had known that it was killing her, she would have taken better care. Today, people don't get overexposed to Xrays because it is carcinogenic.

That is the type of research Pastor Chris is calling for. They will find out that although 5G has very good applications, it is not yet time for its deployment.

Staphylococcus:
Trust me, You have no idea about what you talking about.

You just trying to act like you intuned but rather, it keeps exposing that you an Illiterate in subject matter.

Call your network operator to demand such. It's right to know if the services you pay for is not harmful to your health. I am certain they will be more than willing to educate you.

But don't go into a discussion with them like you do on Nairaland so they don't hang-up on you. You need manners to do that.

Hahaha. You have been exposed. It is funny

Should I call BAT to ask if smoking Tobacco is harmful?

Do you know why people usually call for independent research? Do you know why Tobacco companies had to mandatorily announce that "smokers are liable to die young"?

Keep pretending you are intelligent. Nobody is fooled.

Acehart:
Sir, You haven’t answered me. Did you hear him mentioning anyone’s name. Can you sue him for defamation of character?

Nobody is suing anybody for talking without studying or listening and addressing false facts.

This is social commentary. And anyone with a brain can tell who he is referring to.

Acehart:
Did he call your pastor’s name? Did you watch the video?

I watched the video. Only someone living in denial will not know who he was referring to just like when he was referring to Pastor Benny the other time.

Staphylococcus:
[s]It's rubbish. I can authoritaly tell you. Chris himself has no idea about what he is talking about.

Knowledge is what's killing people. They know nothing about the tech, and when they hear 10x faster, they believe is 10x more radiation.

This is not the end. 6G is already in lab.[/s]

Garbage.

Pastor Chris likes 5G. He said so. They should just provide scientific evidence about the side effects and how relatively harmless it is.

A drug that cures cancer and yet makes people lame and deaf may not be something people want to accept.

bilulu:
Do you guys even remember how Christ described His second coming? Do you think you guys can stop the antichrist if truly it's time? You can't stop the end of time if that is about to happen by destroying or discouraging people about 5G

Naira land and people who like to post on issues they have not investigated

linearity:
Bros, am sorry I must have come too hard on your there....there are just just educated illiterates out there. That Pastor there on that video lost his credibility, as he does not know what he is talking about....bookmark that youtube video, he will be removing it very soon, because he was sending out lots of misinformation that, when he realize the truth, maybe from Doctors and Scientists from his own church calling to tell him..."baba that thing you said, is not really.....really....really...like that'

There is no connection between 5G and IoT, we currently have IoT in Nigeria and in currently without 5G. IoT simply means device to device connectivity over the internet. Controlling your garage door in Lagos from Enugu using an app on your phone is IoT, you can now start your car engine over the internet, that is IoT, you can view your fridge content on your smartphone from the market to know what you are shopping for, that is IoT.

5G debut in the USA in 2018 and since then, they have increased from cities to cities, no vaccine, no body is falling down on the street. I do not see the connection with ID2020 with the 5G and even the vaccine. If you carry a Nigeria Passport or a National ID including the yours faithful passport that is speaking, you already have a digital ID....Your international passport even have an embedded chip that have all your info. The ID2020 project is trying to cover the gap to bring digital ID to about 1.1 billion people worldwide without IDs, these include the homeless, people in remote villages, etc...they felt that, current vaccine distributions for chicken pox, cholera, etc somehow reaches these people who do not have digital ID, hence they are trying to leverage that network. If you are on Nairaland and are reading this, you already have a digital ID, the ID2020 alliance is not for you..try go to their website and read it up for yourself....They don't need 5G and it has nothing to do with any of the covid-19 vaccines that are still been manufactured now.

5G is not military grade anything....it is an electromagnetic wave on the radiowave spectrum....sun light is an electromagnetic radiation, the infrared signal that your remote uses is an electromagnetic radio and these two waves uses a higher frequency that the 5G.

Research CDC, WHO and whole health organizations take on 5G and it's radio wave...These are Doctors, that know about medicine than your Pastor. These are the same Doctors your Pastor run to, when the fall sick.

Hahaha.

5G in the US?


hahaha.

You think AT&T changing the 4G on phones to 5G is 5G?

5G is a Chinese technology which was not in the US in 2018.

5G is not military grade? Hahaha

So he said 5G is connected to IoT or that 5G will amplify IoT?

You told people to read up on what WHO said about 5G? That it has carcinogenic tendencies?

Mehn. Hahaha.

menzo4u:
[s]There is no bases for a lot of argument here, and why would you regard my opinion as rubbish when everything you spew right here is utter thrash and foolishness that falls below common sense?[/s]

[s]Back to the post...the video is the main subject of discussion here, and stop looking stupid in your attempt to twist an obvious fact.[/s]

1. In his own words from the video, he said in a bid to achieve the aim of the New World Order, they came up with an idea which is known as ID2020. The goal of ID2020 is to create a vaccine! According to him, how they will achieve this, is to create a virus. These were his words, according to him " A virus is created, it doesn't exist in nature " so that means the virus was created by the so called New World Order in order to make people accept the vaccine. And the vaccine will be made available through digital means of identification.


This is my submission tackling the first point
- That means NWO created the virus (which according to the chat) is pointing to a pandemic while the pandemic points to COVID-19. Does he have a proof for this? The origin of COVID-19 contradicts what he says here - That is the first CONSPIRACY THEORY.

2. Then in the video, he proceeded further by saying, the signal from 5G produces a sickening effect that will make you want the vaccine.....

He asked the question again in the video "What is making a lot of people sick? This is happening to them...(Pointing to the 5G)

Here is my submission to the above claim.

Every new technology comes with a certain risk, there is no doubt about that. The car we drive today, the electricity we enjoy today, even some drugs we take come with their major side effects, does this make them non advantageous to human? Coming up with some oppositions without a factual scientific proof is what make his claims a conspiracy theory.

Countries like Iran has recorded more than 30,000 cases, Turkey has more than 20,000 cases, while Brazil has more than 10,000 cases. None of these countries have launched 5G network calculating down to February this year. How come they recorded these huge numbers in the absence of 5G network? If 5G according to Pastor Chris in the video is making people sick, why are they falling sick in those countries where there is no 5G yet? Total CONSPIRACY THEORY.


In conclusion , the 5G Technology, like every other technological invention which has existed in human history always comes with their own risk. That is why at their first launch they are often subjected to series of tests. But coming up with unfounded theories like your pastor is doing, linking 5G to anti-christ and some other unsubstantiated biblical myths is what I detest.

Take your time to study the article below to see the effects of 5G as regards to human health.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2019/11/01/the-science-of-why-5g-is-almost-certainly-safe-for-humans/amp/

I was going to strike your whole nonsense.

Here is the summary.

1. ID2020 is an idea for digital identification and the only way to get everyone to participate in this is via vaccination. It is clearly written on articles about ID2020. If you have contrary evidence bring it.

2. Viruses are not naturally occurring. That is a scientific fact. Recombinant strains like COVID-19 either are intentionally made or created by happenstance. Another scientific fact.

3. He did not say NWO created the virus. NWO is made up of vested interests including Big Pharma companies. But without a doubt the NWO (some of the constituent companies) have agitated for using vaccines to get the world digitally identified. So it makes sense to take advantage of a pandemic to achieve this. The chart he drew is more of connection not causation. There is a difference.

4. 5G has sickening effects. This is a fact that many scientists believe, conducted prelim research on and drafted their grievances to WHO since 2011. LOL. It is the people who say it is not harmless that are the conspiracists. There is no experiment or evidence proving 5G is harmless. Read up. LOL

5. You last point, sorry to say is dumb. You have just tried to correlate 5G to COVID-19 which he never said. Those are separate issues.
5G has some harmful effects. One point.

COVID-19 so-called pandemic will be an avenue for any body that needed to make the world get digitally identified by vaccines to step in. This is another fact.

So the only dumb conspiracy about how 5G is harmless or how 5G causes COVID-19 (which is what this noise is about) should either be pointed out to me, or you can get to stepping.

Staphylococcus:
Keep searching for evidences.

Your opinion is inconsequential.

Hahaha.

Got 'em.

Staphylococcus:
[s]You see... That is what you know and why you typing all this gibberish. You heard 10x faster and believe radiation will go 10x faster.

Let me tell you something, of you want to learn, you must be able to communicate in sane manners.

I can see the whole idea you have up there is hearsay. You lack the technical understanding.[/s]

Thrash.

Bring evidence.

Roon9:
It shows he had underlying issues against pastor Chris

He does.

But then he also said rubbish about Pastor Benny when Pastor Benny spoke against all these fake and manipulative givings in the church.

Staphylococcus:
You are a villager. I know your type.

If not for a faceless forum like Nairaland, someone like you won't even raise the topic where am sitted.

Has God giving you the wisdom and insight to look into matters? No

You need to start worshipping Sango

Hahaha haha

Nice try.

Staphylococcus:
Like I said, keep waiting for evidences.

5G is rolling.

The institutions that can stop the roll-out dont have a problem with it. So your opinion is to yourself.

You know the amazing thing about you, you are using same tech to type all this your gibberish.

You are slow and I am happy others can see an "atheist" for who he truly is....an intellectual fraud.

You cannot answer any of my questions. No thread or iota of evidence.

LOL @ institutions. So funny.

Also another dumb lie you have been regurgitating. Pastor Chris loves technology. He is the most advanced in tech as far as churches (I would even say world over). He is a heavy tech enthusiast/investor and he even said he loves 5G.

LOL.

Topmaike007:
it's your pastor that's fake have you seen Adeboye talk about this issue, he knows it's just conspiracy

You are a child. Only a fool speaks about issues they know nothing about like some people do.

BTW, this is the same Pastor who criticised Pastor Benny Hinn because Pastor Benny spoke against manipulative seed-sowing.

LOL

Staphylococcus:
That was the summary of his gibberish

Hahaha.

I listened to him..nothing of the sort.

I know you don't believe in God, so your summary is irrefutably dumb. Because that is not what Pastor Chris said at all.

Staphylococcus:
[s]You have no idea about what you talking about. That's the problem you have. Hearsay you are glued with.

Their are standards in telecoms that are approved and certified.

5G radiation is healthy and it's a fact only you cannot erase. It will continue to be rolled-out till every where in the world goes live.

Some cells will still come today.

So your beliefs and assumptions is your personal opinion. It alters nothing[/s]

Thrash.

Bring evidence. Scientific evidence.

TempleHouse:
Absolute thrash that the 5G causes radiation and had a link with the Coronavirus pandemic
Their is no other radiation bigger than Sun radiation and which some Scientists believe had caused underdevelopment in Africa because of our exposure to the high sunlight in the brain.
Oyakhilome and his gullible followers should move back to the village and hope to be free but can enjoy peace and mosquitoes with water borne diseases with ni radiation.

Bro, any link where he said 5 G causes COVID-19?

MusicSots:
People are just acting stupid. Most of them didn't watch his video on it. They are just being misinformed about his assertions.

Exactly.

Staphylococcus:
When someone will be telling them that the world order wants to use 5G and IOT to conquer the world.

People are really gullible.

Where was it said that 5G was to be used to conquer the world?

LOL

These so-called atheists are actually dumb.

Vicyace:
I tire o

They say 5G is antichrist but they use the products of technology advancement to reach out to their followers via video conferences and live streaming of church services.

The truth no man knows the time and the season when the trumpet shall sound. Live right, avoid sins and be good to your fellow man.

Where did Pastor Chris say 5G is Antichrist?

frankson1:
Don't worry. These Pastor condemning 5G will start buying high tech gadgets to go with the 5G

LOL.

Someone who said he likes 5G?

You know Pastor Chris said he likes 5G right?

Ghostmode2two:
Some pastors are teaching the philosophy of men instead of the teachings of his Majesty. They are teaching their followers iniquities upon iniquities. Coronavirus is a zoonotic virus and I see no reason or correlation of 5G network causing coronavirus unless Pastor Chris and Sen Dino can prove to me that 5G network is an animal.

Please can you show me where Pastor Chris said 5G causes COVID-19?

Staphylococcus:
Haven't I shared quote from FCC with you.

Tune to BBC and listen to analysis as a result of burning Telecom mast.

Those are sources.

As of date, No single regulatory body has been against 5G all over the world. It been debunked at all fronts and quoted as a baseless assumption.

Lies.

They all say there is no research on it.

Staphylococcus:
UK has debunked rumour
US has debunked
China has debunked.

Nigerians are just swallowing what they know not about.

Just switch off your phones and destroy every mast in the country.


The radiation is healthy. That is a fact and every telecoms regulatory body in the world aligns with 5G.

Lies. All lies.

Bring evidence.

Senator Blumenthal was asking the head of the FCC about 5 G and he said there was no research and that he could not declare that it was harmless.

You claim to be in the know, but you are lying and defending something you don't understand.

Every time "non-ionizable" like that is all you saw on Wikipedia. As if anyone is contending that it is non-ionizable. But is it hazardous to health as well? If no, where is the proof. Some other scientists have written to the EU and WHO saying it is carcinogenic.

Meanwhile, I am looking for where Pastor Chris said 5 G causes COVID-19.

buJu234:
The question I still ask is my pastor ( Pst. Chris) an Electrical/Electronics engineer?
The answer is no..

So how do u expect me to take his theories on a subject matter (5G) that he is not an expert on

If its bible studies, the word of God then I listen to him because he is an expert there..

All these 3rd world mentality of believing that Men of God are masters of all trades, is completely wrong..

Even Moses has to take advice from a professional counselor (Jethro) and allow the civil engineer to build the temple ( Exo. 31 vs 1-10).

Always listen to the experts..plz

LOL.

So your pastor said 5G causes COVID-19?


Can you show me where he said it?

Staphylococcus:
Where do you manufacture news from.

Stop believing everything you see online. Get fact from accredited sources.

LOL

What accredited sources?

I am still waiting for your evidence oh.

jchioma:
Correct man. Someone needs to debunk the ignorance coming from the pulpit.

I was really surprised by Chris Oyakhilome's 'expose' on correlation between coronavirus and the innovative 5g technology. E fall e hands.

So what correlation did he make?

LOL.

Keep being deceived. Read a caption and talk nonsense like this Pastor is doing. Pastor Chris did not say 5G causes COVID-19.

Achorise:
Pastor Ashimolowo with all due respect should get his facts right.
Pastor Chris is never against 5G,he even said he likes it.

Don't get moved by such nonsense. These things should tell you how people truly think.

At no point did Pastor Chris even say that 5G causes COVID-19. Neither did he say 5G is the Antichrist or that COVID-19 is about the antichrist.

Hahaha

Staphylococcus:
I didn't ask for a biography.

What evidences do you need? I would have directed you to a building in Lagos where 5G (Millimeter waves) has been playing indoors for over 8months so you can personally go run a test. For confidential reason,, I won't. But the time is almost here when this tech will be fully deployed and you will have the whole atmosphere to do run a test.

I should set up a lab becaise I want to make a point on a faceless forum? Please where is it done.

I did not give a biography. I have research background that is my point. I listen to both sides of the divide and follow the one whose evidence is more tangible and pragmatic. That 5G in Lagos story is another zobo. FYI, I am in the USA.

Give me peer-reviewed documents. Give me links from reputable experts without vested interests. Don't set up a lab. LOL

Staphylococcus:
Absorbed by Oxygen and water

In-between micro wave and infra red.


Where are you reading all this. Not everything you find online is the truth.

Sigh.. I give up.

The irony!

Staphylococcus:
What proof do you need? In the face of outlined facts, you still need a proof.

Okay, I will do. But you have to proof to me that you are not a robot. I need to be sure you are a living human.

Outlined facts? What outlined facts?

Let me let you in on a little information. I have worked in a world class lab that was funded with about $33M at one point. I have conducted independent research works with ideas stemming from the vicinities of CALTECH and the likes.

I know when a sponsor gives funds and expects the research to validate the answer they want and I know when research is done and whatever answer seen, is adopted.

So please, point me to evidence. Let me study, analyse and learn. Stop trying to give me zobo.