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stephenponti:
He doesn't have any evidence too, except some purported hoax flying in the internet space.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

2 things

1. He did not say he conducted his own experiment. There are many scientists who have written on the dangers, conducted preliminary experiments and written publications. Even WHO has adopted some of their findings.

2. He said let the people who say it has no harmful effects present their own findings with scientific proof. That is what he asked for.

He also said, he likes 5 G and would take advantage of it but these questions need to be answered. You cannot tell me you have the cure for COVID-19 but (hide the fact that if I take it I will go blind and lame). That is essentially what he is saying.

The part about the bible etc can be ignored if you are not a christian.

Staphylococcus:
What solid proof do I need to give you. Do some work about it and of you have a problem, you can get back.

I can't be running a lab test for you when am not being paid. Incase you might want to patronize my expertise, I can deliver clear cut test results to you.

But what have said was just the actual fact. You have been exposed to more telecoms radiation than you can imagine. It's the only ones you see that you complain about. You have been to enclosures that you even not know what's running, but you just make your calls and burn up data thinking the antenna serving you is far off from you. And it's just right above your head.

LOL

So, you ain't got proofs.

Just as I suspected.

Seunn11:
After you copied the definition from wikipedia, you then added your own that it is non ionizing!
Do you have vested interest?
Did you read from your source (that you didn't cite) that it is extremely high frequency radiation and is between microwave and infrared? And that it can be absorbed by oxygen and water droplets especially in high humid places (like Nigeria. Nigeria has high humidity for greater part of the year. Humidity close to 100%).
What do you think it's effect will be on other substances that humans depend on...things that find their ways into body systems

He just wants to pretend like he knows what is going on.

Oracle23:
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I DONT THINK U UNDERSTOOD MY POST.

Reread again and dont forget to read what I replied to.

The fact that people were fully embracing of 3G and 4G does not mean 5G is equally as harmless that is the point.

Nairalandmonika:
So why does 5g requires a tower every 100 meters.

Because the frequencies (vibrations or steps going by my previous example) required are plenty so they will require many landing spots (or masts/towers)as close as possible.

Again, think of the short and tall man example. If the road was filled with spikes on the floor but at each interval of 10m there was a log of wood to land on, the man with the longer leg who can land on each log of wood with each stride will do so easily but the shorter man will wish the log of wood was available after every 3m so his short legs can land on them.

Oracle23:
Why are u using 4G and 3G?

That is like asking, if people use hot water to shower or bathe, what's wrong in just going into fire.

And you are calling people names because you think 3G, 4G and 5G are in progressions of severity and ionisation potential. LOL

benji93:
Well said, although the energy per photon may be low as you suggested. There are elastic waves called Phonons that manifest as vibrations in materials. We know Photon energy can be converted into Phonon energy. As such the question you should ask yourself is, is ionization the only way materials can be made to change their behavior? The physics of metals tells us that the electrons are delocalized and require very little energy to start moving around. Although the biological materials the body is made of are neither purely metallic, insulating nor semi-conducting, they do exhibit some metallic, semiconducting and insulating behavior, to different degrees, which may vary at a particular part of the body at different times. If that's the case, moving the electrons around often than not may constitute a problem, especially because the frequencies are concentrated around our bodies. Also given that different parts of a given part of the body may consist of different biological materials, there's no telling how phonon energy could affect the vibration of different parts of that part. Usually, when i place my phone in my back pocket, i feel so uncomfortable with the heat, that I usually have to put it elsewhere. The long and short of it is that, although ionization radiations are dangerous, especially because they are immediate, there's no telling how dangerous non-ionizing radiations are in this context, in the long run, especially if they activate a chain of irreversible processes in the body, especially because of the complex nature of the biological material composition of our body. The arguments I have made are just some perspectives, there could be others. The effect of these radiations on biological materials is something we are still learning about. Thus, while you may be correct in your assertion that the 5G frequencies are no ionization radiations, ignoring the other ramifications is a problem.

This is an intelligent post.

Staphylococcus:
[s]"Millimeter waves are electromagnetic (radio) waves typically defined to lie within the frequency range of 30–300 GHz. ... The millimeter-wave band thus corresponds to a wavelength range of 10 mm at 30 GHz decreasing to 1 mm at 300 GHz."


They are also non ionizing but have the capacity to move higher bandwidths at faster rate. The constrain about it is area coverage. Millimeter waves can barely shoot past 100meters and same time have low penetrating power. It can't even go through a a building or glass. [/s]

The misinformation about it is that people believe because it delivers much, it's deadly, but it's false...

Proof. Bring solid proofs let people study and compare.

Seunn11:
Is this a joke?
What is now the effectiveness of a telecommunications equipment that just at the base of it, the signal had dropped to about 1 % of operating limit? It looked like a doctored experiment!!!

You are right, it is a doctored experiment. It is like someone trying to prove that Coke is better than Pepsi and then drinks the Pepsi, throws up on video and says "you see, Pepsi is bad".

Nairalandmonika:
Weak in the sense that it cannot penetrate thick substance.

It has a short wavelength meaning it cannot travel far distance.

So how am I wrong.

Short wavelength does not mean that the wave cannot travel far distances. Long and short waves can travel the same distance. The difference is short waves will need more frequencies to accomplish the same distance. Put it this way, both short and tall men can run 100 M distance. But the shorter man will need more steps to reach that same distance while the taller man (with longer legs) will need fewer steps.

What does that imply? That the shorter man will require more energy to defeat the taller man. That is why short wavelengths are very energetic and usually dangerous.

desiredhome:
Why not you explain your research since you already know about it?

I do not have complete knowledge on this. But one thing is for sure, there are a myriad of top scientists who have more knowledge and they have written to many interest groups like the EU asking them to discontinue the installations till more research is done.

On the other hand, those who believe there are no harms associated with using 5 G have not provided one dot of evidence and when the experts are asked (you can verify) they will all tell you that they do not know.

[quote author=HedwigesMaduro post=88112036][/quote]The elect is not christians. The elect are JEWS.

There will be some christians here during the great tribulation. Majority of whom would have become christians after the rapture. The others would have been lukewarm folks who neither stood for anything although they believed somewhat in Jesus.

That is what the bible says and that is what Pastor Chris teaches.

stephenponti:
He insinuated that 5G radiation compromise the body immune system which makes the body susceptible to diseases, which will then require the purported microchipped vaccination.

You are right. These are his words in different forms.

Now, if he is wrong (which he isn't), do you have solid scientific proof? He ended his presentation by asking for that because there are MANY other scientists who have done some preliminary research and came up with the same conclusions. In fact, the people who claim there is no associated health hazard to using 5 G do not have 1 shred of evidence.

musicwriter:
He didn't need to call it mark of the beast. However, he said the order is create a need for a vaccine, which will be injected with a digital ID (ID2020), then finally the new world order (where you can't buy or sell without the ID) that's a euphemism for mark of the beast. Check the last 3 steps in his presentation, he abbreviated the New World Order as NWO but don't worry if you don't understand it cause most of his followers won't even understand what he's saying.

I understood him completely and I am now 99% sure you either did not, or you are not a christian. So may be I should ask you that before even speaking further. Are you a christian?

BTW, he did not say THIS particular situation is the mark of the beast. But that the mark of the beast will come this same way and with this same tactics. I know this because this video is only the last part of a series of teachings that span for 6 days.

nduchucks:
Please learn to read with comprehension. If you show me where I mentioned that he said 5G causes COVID-19, I'd offer you an unreserved apology.

No need to insult people in a faceless forum. You may very well be insulting your parents who could be online anonymously.

I did not call you a fool. I said a fool will make a post on an issue he did not investigate or follow up on.

He is now bearing false witnesses using lies and conspiracy theories

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Now substantiate this ^^^

abeggnow:
plz don't try yo hive excuses for con men. TB Joshua said march 27th o, e don pass has corona virus gone??

If it was raining and you asked the rain to stop and it did, will the ones that were already falling disappear?

ivolt:
[s]Who should investigate a lunatics raving?
Are you going to pay for the investigation?[/s]

Only a fool passes off judgement on an issue they have not investigated.

menzo4u:
Go to the first video @1:59....he said the signal from 5G produces a sickening effect that will make you want the vaccine.....

[s]So what is the Vaccine needed for? Is it not Covid-19??[/s]

[s]Stop asking questions that has an obvious answer.[/s]

I struck out your rubbish inferences. It is clear just like what I had already suspected that a lot of people just make posts even when they do not understand the import of the message being passed. You are one of such people.

1. He is right. A lot of scientists have written to the EU on the possible dangers of using 5 G and how more investigations should be done before its implementation.

2. He did not say that sickening effect is COVID-19. The sickening effect scientists point to is a weakening of the immune system. That is all he said or alluded to.

3. A weakened immune system is an avenue for COVID-19 to thrive. This is an inference you can make. NOT that 5 G causes COVID-19.

4. The chart he produced said VACCINE/VACCINATION was a strategy to get everyone to present themselves for identification through numbers. He did not say THE vaccine.

There is a difference. He was saying from time immemorial, the vested interest groups' strategy was always to use vaccines/vaccination but how to get the whole world to believe in the need for vaccination was the issue. In other words, it could have been any other pandemic. As long as the world will feel there was a need for it, they will have their opening.

Opening because, the overarching plan is not the vaccination (which on the surface is not bad) but the identification which will be used subsequently.

If you are not a christian, whatever he is saying will make no sense to you but you do not need to misrepresent him to disagree.

mrphysics:
@ the emboldened. If you don't have proofs, why not learn from the proofs that have been provided? Or you want to keep holding onto your conspiracy theory hoping it becomes true? Facts has been raised above, you read it and you don't want to believe it because you so much want yours to be true.

You did not give any proofs. If you had proofs, you will bring solid scientific proofs from a myriad of peer-reviewed papers from reputable journals and then allow people to constructively analyse it and present rebuttals.

The head of the FCC in the USA was asked questions about this same 5 G and the associated health hazards. His response was that he could not rule it out, research was still being done and when he was pressed harder, that he had no answer. This is the Director of the agency that is commissioned to regulate the telecommunications sector in the USA.

But someone on NL, wrote conjectures and is trying to pass it off as proof. LOOL

Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

The information he gave is even inaccurate. As soon as I saw 5 G is 5 Giga Hertz, I stopped reading.

Nairalandmonika:
The reason for the many towers is because the wavelength of 5g is very short meaning it can't travel long distance and weak it cannot penetrate walls but it can carry thousands of massage at once that's why it's fast.

Like I earlier said, 2g 3g 4g and 5g all generate radiowaves signal in the electromagnetic spectrum.

Just Google the electromagnetic spectrum and see where radiowaves falls under.

Most people just say radiation cause cancer, they are different types of radiation, check the electromagnetic spectrum to know those that are harmful and those that are not harmful.

We use the same radiation to heat out food hope u realize. That microwave is also a type of radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum.

The emboldened is WRONG.

Short wavelengths are not weak. They are actually very very strong because they have high frequencies.

desiredhome:
Do you understand before quoting me? What is topic of this discussion here?

You asked why there is an issue concerning it. I asked you if you have used it? If you have not, then the only way to know what controversy that surrounds them is to research.

You won't learn anything on this thread.

HedwigesMaduro:
.I hope you are not one of those Christians that are being sent into a lull by the false teaching of "rapture before tribulation"?

Jared007, please ignore this.

wman:
Lol. So many conspiracy theories flying around.

I like Pastor Chris and respect him a lot, but I don't believe this.

Which one is true?

1. The virus is caused by 5G

2. China created the virus to dominate the West.

3. American soldiers that participated in the 2019 Wuhan Military World Games brought the virus to China.

4. Bill Gates and co created the virus as a population control scheme.

5. The New World Order will create a vaccine for the virus to rule the world

6. Democrats created the virus in conjunction with others to bring down the government of Donald Trump

7. Donald Trump created the virus and waited till it spread so much in the USA, so he'll emerge victorious and win the November elections easily.

8. Coronavirus doesn't exist. You only get it from the test kits.

9. There is no coronavirus in Nigeria. The government is using it to make money.

10. Coronavirus doesn't exist. They are using the opportunity of people staying indoors to lay 5G cables.

Did he say the virus is caused by 5G?

benjibabs:
You are kidding me, right?

Your cop-out is weak.

At least I have been able to prove that a lot of you talking here are just talking without watching the video or knowing anything.

coretechng1:
Dont use the vaccine when it comes out. Go to your man of God to give u the insider information from force that no one knows about to protect you from the virus

LOL

coretechng1:
[s]Am surprised bros. I thought he was so studious and understood so many things. Now with what he saying? hmmmm. Look at how the whole crap is well packaged and arranged. So many will believe this crap[/s].

Rubbish

saxxyb:
I am confused here, how does fear make one to accept 5G network[/color][color=#006600]

Where did he say fear makes one accept 5 G?

desiredhome:
Is it possible that a lot people are using 4G today and is now an issue to use 5G?.........
There has always been updates in everything we have I believe.........
Definately there has always been improved version of our gadgets etc......

So why is 5G now becoming an issue?

Have you used 5 G before? Where did you use it?

KenModi:
[s]I am saying he has been healing the sick, he shld do same with Covid-19 patients too. Why have all pastors suddenly lost their powers to heal the sick. You can restore a person sight, make the lame walk, some even raise the dead, what then is restoring a pair of collapsed lungs, shld be a piece of cake to them.

Pastor Chris shld heal the sick now...this is where we need him most; we need them most now.[/s]

Take a COVID-19 patient to him. That is how you can prove if he can heal them or not. Don't ask inane questions when you know that I already told you, if he was to organise a healing session (where many will show up), you are the same person who will say he is disobeying the govt and should be arrested.

NewLola:
[s]I'm very disappointed that a man of Pastor Chris caliber will believe and teach this crap. I thought he was educated enough to know, a Ph.D. holder for that matter.

It is a sha.....Religion has disappointed us again[/s]

Dumb

Kirinwa:
The 5 G doesn't cause Covid-19. Their aim is to activate and control the micro chips that would be present in the vaccine that would be touted as a remedy.

I know it does not cause COVID-19. I know he never said so. I also know he said he likes 5 G but that the consequences of using it on health have not been fully studied or investigated. I know he said that scare-mongering is being used to propagate the effect of COVID-19 and that interest groups under the guise of trying to create a vaccine will aim to make it compulsory for all and sundry but that the main reason for why they will want to administer the vaccine will be unveiled in time if it works (which it won't...for now).

His biblical argument to tie this in is, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO DO IT.

So why are people making dumb posts about how he is saying 5G causes COVID-19?