₦airaland Forum

zionmde:
Good I don't agree with him that d lockdown is all about the church. But I won't say it's a lie either because I don't know the source of his information. So u are correct in wat u just said

sorry I could have told u earlier that d first video is just praise and worship

He never said so.

onlyfacts:
Only your beloved pastor said a lie here. See the video proof

You are hiding behind words. Weak antagonist.

onlyfacts:
First video, unrelated to 5G. I wasted data but here is what I learnt. Pastor Chris here again claims that the goal of the pandemic by government is to "prevent people from going to church".

LIES.

That may seem logical on the surface but looking at it critically you see it doesn't only affect the church, it affects the whole word and society.

The oil industries are affected globally, oil demand is on the low.
The air line industries are affected globally, most flights and destinations have been canceled.
The transportation sectors globally are suffering due to lack of human and goods movement.
Global commerce is suffering, stock exchange and foreign reserves depleted.
People have lots jobs, including the rich and powerful.

You listened to 2mins snippet and want to lecture people who listened for 9 days on what he meant? Then you are just lying up and down. Which means your aim is to give a dog a bad name so you can hang it.

But pastor Chris choose to make this pandemic only about the church, like they are the most affected.

Are you a christian? I want to know what to do to your posts.

realmindz:
[s]Ever wondered why the people who had this miracles are one of the poorest people, most are illiterates and uncivilized.
Because it is much easier to do away with them, to orchestrate a fake miracle, u need people who have nothing to lose, who have no voice.

There u can go to a far away village and pick a homeless begger, there are lots of them in a third world country like this. People who have access to nothing. They are so cheap, just feeding them thrice a day buys them forever. Train them on how to do it, and u get the job done.

Ever wondered why no famous person has ever been cured in miracle crusades?

Well to perfect the tricks of miracles, get as many of these people without class and education, then add one or two very loyal civilised ones ...among 100, you can have 1, highly confidential, this one knows the game, in fact he is part of the game. Get fake medical reports, very easy to produce, I know how easy it is to produce one.
The miracle industry is an organised crime...it is an industry, lawyers, doctors, hospitals, lab scientists etc all work hand in hand to deliver results.
But lies will always be lies, they try to avoid as much publicity as possible once it is concluded in the church, that's the end of the miracle heist. They easily discard off the so called miracle receivers as they are nobody, and untraceable. That's why this doesn't make the front page news.

It is a sweet game, only those who are smart knows it is all fraud, na who know, know...
This information is not what anybody will easily tell out there, because that's the biggest secret of the church only privy to just a few ministers in the church...
The choir, the ushers, the elders, the prayer warriors (who think their prayers are the ones working), church members etc have no idea what is actually going on. They will only see results[/s]

Strive Masiyiwa is a billionaire in USD. He was healed at the healing school.

zionmde:
Bro People who come out to testify in Pastor Chris Healing schools don't look poor
they present medical certificates some of dem from federal medical centers with name of doctors boldly written them

if they were forged, wat are d hospitals or doctors or d government waiting for to pounce on the forgers. Or are they also paid to overlook dem

Strive Masiyiwa, Jackie Chan, One of the Ibrus. Few of the "rich celebrities" that have gone there. People who don't want to believe will never believe.

Healing school sessions year in year out. In Canada (where most Americans attend). Not one case of someone claiming they were paid. Thousands of candidates since early 2000s.

But it is clowns on NL that will tell us he is paying people to fake being healed.

zionmde:
Oga sharrap and stop saying wat u don't know

The vaccines he is speaking against is d one that will carry a specific digital ID dat is unique to everyone in d world. He maintains d fact that Covid19 patients should be given vaccines that they need and not just left to die

He specifically mentioned that the mark of d beast is only possible Wen rapture must have taken place.

I have all d 12 videos
so if u can't sit down and understand wat he is saying den sharrap

They know. They just want to misrepresent him.

onlyfacts:
I found this also on YouTube. Pastor Chris was praying, (a healer that performs miracles as he claims) that's a VACCINE for COVID-19 should be quickly discovered by scientists. The same vaccine he later claimed is the ID of the Antichrist that's brings the 666!

He says this and says that. All with one mouth. Watch him say it here at exactly the 3 minute into the 4 minutes prayer.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz_JYHcK5BI

Cc: spartan117

Lies.

LordReed:
Don't you get it that the potential to overwhelm the available medical facilities and personnel is a grave threat? Can you imagine what will happen if everybody gets sick all at once? Can you not see nurses and doctors dying from the disease? What do you think would happen if the people who are supposed to treat you are all sick?

Think and reason abeg.

Rubbish.

It is not more contagious than the regular Flu. No hospital is overwhelmed with anything. A simple dosage of Hydroxychloroquine is treating the ailment. All the hype about ventilators have been proven lies. There is an excess now that NYC have no use for. Then they are over reporting deaths, according to WHO guidelines which is clearly a fraud.

Nurses and Doctors dying are not being treated. They are being told that there is no cure/treatment and that they have to wait to see if their immune system will help them combat it.

You should read up. It is not enough to be forming fake atheist.

Mizwisdom:
I read it, it shows she died of sepsis. Thousands die of the same thing every year, unfortunately. Why the question?

You are correct.

holsconcept:
As usual, COVID 19 must be attached to the death to push up the figures. Kudos

Don't mind them. Woman that clearly died of sepsis.

LordReed:
Yes they should wait until Covid-19 deaths surpass that of heart disease before they take it seriously. SMH. Its vegetables like you that will stand in the middle of the road and expect drivers to drive around you, shouting at the driver "can't you see me!".

LOL.

NO. The point I was making is, COVID-19 is not even more deadly than Ebola. The attention it has garnered seems forced and mischievous.

LordReed:
For some learned to say "I am glad you called it Covid-19 not coronavirus or else I would have asked you questions" shows the extent to which the ignorance is speaking. As if Covid-19 is not a type of coronavirus.

He knows that. Come on.

He said that because he was simply forming ITK. He wanted to correct the host had the host said "coronavirus".

Funaki:
Who told you flu hasn't killed people this year? Is it because the news stations aren't reporting it like the covid 19?

Flu is seasonal from around October to end of March. So the data is mostly analysed per season.

Besides, flu has vaccine and it's not a new viral infection unlike covid 19.

I am simply saying that fear-mongering is why COVID-19 was enjoying traction.

As for vaccine, forget that vaccine thing o jare. I see people still get the flu regardless of the vaccine or flu shots. Flu-shots are just money making ventures for pharmaceuticals.

God bless this thread.

Goshen360:
I'm showing you exactly what your pastor said...that's all. If I'm right or wrong, time will tell and we'll all be alive through this period and we'll see who's right or wrong.

I have watched him every single day sometimes even 2 times for each session. Please, point me to what he said that you are misunderstanding because I have many things from different people and all of them were lying and misrepresenting him.

Commonsense99:
[s]Your pastor said COVID-19 patients are not dying of COVID-19, that the are dying of fear, in fact that there is nothing like virus.
That social distancing is for people not to go on riot, etc
Your pastor is simply daft! And you who came to defend him are more daft![/s]

Ignoramus. LOL

Do HIV positive patients die of HIV before? LOL

LordReed:
Rubbish. Ignorance disguised as academic qualifications. Utter tripe.

Point me to the wrong things they said so we can examine it.

LordReed:
You should ground your opinions on facts. The facts are clear, coronavirus deaths are not anywhere near the death rate so why would you say every death is being attributed to coronavirus?

So why is the world not talking about heart diseases that kill more?

In the US, between January to March, Flu should have killed a lot of people like it has always been in 2019, 2018 etc.

What happened to the Flu deaths in 2020? Nobody is dying of the flu anymore.

Look up Deborah Birx. She has your answer.

LordReed:
Why do you people reason like you are vegetables? How many coronavirus deaths have been announced in Nigeria? How many have been announced worldwide? Can you compare it to the normal death rate? Gosh.

So which death rate is worse?

PapaNnamdi:
one thing with nairaland members is that, they will insult you once they notice they have nothing upstairs to counter your claim,


counter pastor Chris with your argument not insults,
I am not his follower but prior to his testimony about 5G,

I have always countered the covid 19 pandemic,
He made some valid points,
and he never said 5G is the cause for all deaths in China,

You are one of the few people to understand him. His talk about people dying, COVID-19 and 5G was in relation to China. That is where the cover-up started and it is clearly in collusion with WHO. Even Trump believes so now.

petra1:
That means it's a deliberate action .
liars Gbogbo. Ive heard them misquote him a lot and I'm wondering it was a mistake.

Very deliberate. Even in the Full YouTube video of that day 7 he ended his presentation by saying "I am a tech enthusiast..." in another part he said "there are good parts to the 5G....". In one of the earlier days he gave an analogy about a cure for cancer and if the side effect makes someone lame and blind, they may not want your cure for cancer again etc.

How can anyone who remotely looks at Pastor Chris, or the ministry in general, come to the conclusion that he is anti-technology? When he is the most technologically advanced minister of the gospel? He has always been the one leading the way, taking advantage of technology for the gospel.

I have heard Pastor Ifeoma Chiemeka say that as far back as 1994, Pastor would tell them that IT is the biggest thing in the world, when people were still sceptical about it. I mean, even the stage, screen, satellites, personal microblogging sites should have informed people that this man is not someone you play with in terms of technology.

Some of the motivational pastors that were talking rubbish, when did they join Twitter? Pastor Chris was the first to see the potential of Twitter and his followership grew so much that twitter had to keep deleting the followers to deal with traffic. Someone that had 3.3M followers by 2010 before he left twitter, is the one that people are calling a tech antagonist?

LOL

Goshen360:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IxMExNaiOk

Continue with the lying tongue as your pastor.

Sorry what are you showing me? Do I look like I am guessing? If you were humbly asking for clarity you would have got it by now.

I see you are back-tracking because you already know you are wrong.

newmi:
Good!
But lots of misinformation.
Pastor Chris is not particularly against 5G technology especially as you have mentioned yourself he is a protagonist for technology including the "good" talks about
the benefits of the technology in terms of its multifaceted possibilities but please listen to him agàin and understand his underlining concerns tandem to the bigger picture of such cynical agenda as the NWO and other sinister global interests.

So please go back and listen again because the man doesn't always gets involved with public issues per say so for him to speak up, don't you think it's in response to his sense of spiritual and moral duty and responsibility as such he should be taken more seriously? Does he look like someone seeking "cheap" popularity or acceptance?

Thank you

They are not trying to know what he actually said. The misrepresentation sells better or else why does any journalist feel the need to tell you he was their former Pastor?

What we are observing is the strong deception that should characterize these last days. Nothing new. They won't listen to you because it does not suit the narrative they need to have to foist this trolling agenda. Nothing new.

petra1:
Loyalty is to God brother.


Pastor Chris never said 5G cause the virus . He said the virus is just a flu which can just be easily cured . He said the deaths were exaggerated and many of the dead were not treated to creat panic and forced vaccine. But he said the 5G is dangerous to human health .


Pastor chris is live now

They never wanted to hear that because the misrepresentation is sweeter since they think it granted them access to pillory him. Long before today, I had been saying it repeatedly - asking people to show me where he said 5G causes COVID-19 or that he hates it. Nobody answered. They will ignore it and make inane posts.

Goshen360:
[s]Continue deceiving your along with pastor Chris. Who's pastor Chris that some of you have to be all bend to defend him? The way you people are loyal to him, I don't think you're loyal to Christ himself like that. Use your own brain sometimes if you hear anything....please its annoying to see how you guys defend ANYTHING Pastor Chris says....accept it, he's a man LIKE you and can err.

Back to your comment above....let me reason along with your comments above....AND YOUR COMMENT ABOVE IS CORRECT......

But.....Pastor Chris didn't say it the way you said it above....HE EMPHATICALLY SAID....its not Coronavirus killing people but 5G....

Now, let's reason with your comments above, supposing there's Coronavirus on one hand and 5G on another hand making people fall like convulsing as you said....so how do we know which is ACTUALLY killing people or is it BOTH....the best way is to take hypothetical steps.

Iran is about to or have just launched first test of 5G, how come they affected by Coronavirus supposing it was 5G killing them? It doesn't add up sir!

2, As 5G is still a very new technology requiring the installation of vast amounts of telecoms equipment, it has not yet come online in many countries. Only 34 countries currently have 5G networks, but there are now confirmed coronavirus cases in 181 countries.

If 5G did cause the coronavirus – which it does not – the number of countries with cases would be the same as with 5G networks[/s].

You are asking st.upid questions, making stu.pid inferences and drawing st.upider conclusions. If you want to understand something, listen to the people who listen to the man regularly.

He taught something for days, but it is your 45 secs snippet that will qualify you to argue with people who understand all the contexts and nuances to his words? What a fugazi you are.

petra1:
Some people made reference to Spanish flu lockdown . As though lock down is not a new thing . I wish they check to know how many million died in their homes who's bodies were found after lockdown

As if any MOG who was studying his bible will be comparing 1918 when Israel was not even a tree let alone developing tender branches, to now when they are getting close to 72 years old.

As if some of the descriptions the bible gave in Revelation are not already getting clearer now than they were in 1918.

I listened to some of those motivational speakers and prayed passionately for them.

Staphylococcus:
Never argue with me.

I told you few days ago that 5G trial has been done and runs in Nigeria, you said it's a lie. I just wanted to be confidential.

If it might interest you that a particular operator already ran the trials over 8 months ago and trials did not go off.

When people are schooling you. Always try pay attention. Especially when it's glaring they know more than you.

Listen, Nigeria barely has 4G. You guys are still in the 3G realm and you are letting your service providers bamboozle you with their fake 4G.

LOL. You would not know what 5G was if it spoke to you with a redhat screaming "I AM 5G".

First admit you were talking rubbish about 5G in the US, then get data before engaging me. I do not suffer fools gladly.

leye4u:
Oga...cool temper nah....
Aye o le oo
Let's discuss this thing
No strength to fight oo

Devils don't discuss. An intelligent human being who had a contrary opinion will discuss. A devil won't because everything is by force to the devil.

Staphylococcus:
Tell me what you learnt from the video let me break it down for you. It's too lengthy and I don't have much data.

Just watch the 10:40-11:45.

Chai see what data is doing to ignorant Nigerians.

So you have been insulting Pastors without even watching the videos?

Chai chai.

Staphylococcus:
Why did you say am an atheist. How did you arrive at that conclusion.

You even manufacturing fake news about me?

Guy, you talented!

I assumed that all your faux pas and gaslighting was the mask every wannabe atheist wore.

If you are not, you would even sink lower in my estimation.

How can you be arguing yet you don't even consult widely? Simple 20 min video would have liberated you.

Staphylococcus:


OMG

Okay, Apple is rolling-out 5G


What else you have to say next? Millimeter waves?

Please tell me the truth, Are you truly in the USA as you claimed? And if yes, are you legally here.

Cos your exposure and versatility is mind boggling.

Chai.

I won't be surprised if you put your account number under posts asking for 5K.

And I won't be answering questions to answers you'd easily find in that video. Tell your friend who can afford data to watch and tell you what he learned.

Staphylococcus:
You are shooting over the bar.

Your case is different

You don't know what you talking about sincerely. I know.

You are a fraud of an atheist.

Usually they are objective and consult widely (for other things not religious).

You have proven to be a joke tbh. Just watch that video. You won't have anything to say.