Christianity Etc › Re: If Christianity Were To Be True This Is What You Will Find by malvisguy212: 6:57am On Sep 04, 2016 |
An2elect2: my neighbour's clay pot "thinks" clay made it too. Don't waste your time on the op. I think he is a muslim claiming to be atheist just to attack christianity even more. He NEVER attack islam. Muhammed is his allied. |
Christianity Etc › Re: If God Decides To Answer Just One Prayer Request, What Would You Ask For? by malvisguy212: 6:01am On Sep 04, 2016 |
sonofluc1fer: Ask Him to.show himself. He's been hiding for too long.
NB: he showed his buttocks to Moses. Weird. Our desperate need is not for clever arguments but for a powerful encounter with the living God (1 Corinthians 4:20). And we need not more dramatic signs from heaven, but to act on what we already know. The door to spiritual understanding is not human explanation, but supernatural revelation. It swings not on mind games but on a willingness to surrender our stubborn will to One who knows better than us. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Trinity by malvisguy212: 9:34pm On Sep 03, 2016 |
Ladyo142: can someone explain the concept of the Trinity to me? it is actually confusing three Gods as one,or did God duplicate himself when he came to earth to die for our sins ? who was he talking to when he prayed?why did Jesus say the father is greater is greater than him, why did he say he didn't know when the end will come? Read here for proper understanding of the trinity https://www.nairaland.com/2960660/tri-unity-god-work-salvationWhen jesus say the father is greater than I, He is referring to the office of the tri-unity of God. For example, is buhari greater than you in term of OFFICE ? Yes. But is buhari BETTER than you in NATURE (holiness) ? God the son, made his dwelling on christ the man, and when jesus pray, He pray to The father in heaven. Jesus has two nature, Fully God and Fully man. Micah 5:2 say: “But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, though you are small among the clans[a] of Judah, out of you will come for me one who will be ruler over Israel, WHOSE ORIGIN ARE FROM OF OLD ,FROM ANCIENT TIME.” He is fully human because He was born at a particular point of time in bethlehem. He is God because His origin is unknown, "from ancient time". The reason why jesus did not know the time when the end will come is because, when He became a man, He VOLUNTARILY restricted the use of certain divine attributes: Philippians 2:6–8 6 who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but EMPTIED HIMSELF by taking the form of a SERVANT, being born in the likeness of men. 8 And being found in human form, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross. While on Earth, jesus did not manifest His power unless when the father approve it: John 5:30. 30 “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me. He voluntarily restricted that omniscience to only those things God wanted Him to know during the days of His humanity. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by malvisguy212: 9:39am On Sep 03, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Bros, why answering question with question now?
Anyways, consider the below did you seriously just say this!!! ? I ask a question which you ignore but instead you reply back with a question. Did I accuse you of answering a question with question ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by malvisguy212: 9:35am On Sep 03, 2016 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Jehovah Witness' Jesus, Who Is He? by malvisguy212: 9:06am On Sep 03, 2016 |
Jehovah witness. No reply ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by malvisguy212: 8:45am On Sep 03, 2016 |
hopefulLandlord: Is it natural or not?
NB: I'm not homosexual “I was not born this way,” she wrote. “The life I
have now is not something I ended up with
because I had no other options. Make no
mistake – it's a life I chose.”
Lindsay Miller.
If people are born gay, why are they Ex-gay ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why Do Christians Hate Homosexuals If God Created Them That Way by malvisguy212: 8:31am On Sep 03, 2016 |
Lennycool: One of Jesus's core message is love, but most of the Christians I've encountered are the most homophobic ones, The question is if God created homosexual's and even made all mankind in his own image why do the religious hate homosexuals. Homosexuality is not a choice as research will tell you, its inborn just like being heterosexual. So did God make a mistake? Is homosexual right or wrong ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Muslim Cleric Butchers 25-year-old, Dumps His Parts On Expressway by malvisguy212: 8:27am On Sep 03, 2016 |
Pidggin: This world will be a better place if everyone accepts Jesus in their lives, RIP indeed! The bible say Love your enemy and bless those who persecute you. A God of love wants the whole world to operate in love, but could you force someone to love you? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Who Believe In Reincarnation , Spirits , Voodoo Share Their Knowledge by malvisguy212: 7:29am On Sep 03, 2016 |
Lennycool: illiterate Nigerians. No atheist can believed in voodoo or spirits or reincarnation, anyone that tells you otherwise doesn't know what atheism means. Tell that to your compatriot ifenes. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Debunking The Misconceptions Of Evolution: For Christians And Muslims by malvisguy212: 5:05pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
donnffd: Its simple, Earth is not a closed system, we get constant influx of energy from the sun and thats the main driver of Life on the planet as well as Evolution. Entropy only becomes significant in a closed-system. Are you saying Entropy ( 2nd law of thermosdinamice) is not a universal law ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Debunking The Misconceptions Of Evolution: For Christians And Muslims by malvisguy212: 2:05pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
GrizzlyBear: What exactly is evolution?
Remember I said I wasn't going to bore you with ambiguous scientific details. All I am going to do, is elicit interest in the subject, and you can expand your knowledge on your own. There are lots of good books on the subject. Learning about evolution is just like learning about any other subject in biology, so you shouldn't be afraid to learn about it, or afraid it would shake your faith, because like I said in my previous post, it shouldn't.
So what's evolution? In the simplest of terms, Evolution is the change in heritable characteristics of biological populations, over successive generations, through the process of genetic mutation, and natural selection
Note that the two most important ingredients that enable evolution to occur are genetic mutation and natural selection. Without these two elements present, evolution would not occur. question, The universe is govern by Entropy, how does evolution work in this kind of universe ? Entropy imply life will be annihilated. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Six Year Old Half Brother Doesn't Seem To Understand That God Is Real by malvisguy212: 9:51am On Sep 02, 2016 |
kolawaxxy: Uncaused cause? I'ld prefer you say it's the known unknown To you, That what you think. But to me, He is VERY much real. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Six Year Old Half Brother Doesn't Seem To Understand That God Is Real by malvisguy212: 9:20am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Gpdwise: Notruth I go to church on sunday as the first day of the week as millons of Nigerian do... You come to the wrong forum to seek for answer, this forum is control by deceptive spirit and lying tongue, they will only mock and laugh at you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: My Six Year Old Half Brother Doesn't Seem To Understand That God Is Real by malvisguy212: 9:16am On Sep 02, 2016 |
Gpdwise: I have been trying for the past three (3) hours now to explain the concept of God to my six year old half brother. who recently just returned from the states. i tried reading using the bible and he asked me the most difficult but simple question. Big brother where did God come from if you said there was nothing in world!! I dropped the bible immediately I tried using nature to explain that the beautiful flowers, birds and sea where created by God. Then he asked me who created God because mama bird and papa bird will have junior bird and for the flowers I need to plant its seed for them to grow.. so big brother who is papa God God is a spirit (luke 4:24) a spirit is not a material effect, you cannot create a spirit, God is the uncause cause. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Who Believe In Reincarnation , Spirits , Voodoo Share Their Knowledge by malvisguy212: 3:17pm On Sep 01, 2016 |
ifenes: If you cannot answer my questions, I will not reply you. Mind you I never invented god,neither do I think your deity in the bible is not one but many "gods/humanoids-like-creatures" you refer to as god. Good luck and I will only reply intelligent answers. You don't know what you are saying, this is pure evidence that atheists are confuse. Post like this expose atheist. Keep it up. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Christians,was The Gospel Account Of Matthew Divinely Inspired? by malvisguy212: 12:04pm On Sep 01, 2016 |
raphieMontella: 9 “I bought the field that was at Anathoth from Hanamel my uncle’s son, and weighed out the money for him, seventeen shekels of silver . 10 I signed the deed and sealed it, and called in witnesses, and weighed out the money on the scales. ..
There are three things wrong with this: a. There were no "pieces of silver" used as currency in Jesus' time - they had gone out of circulation about 300 years before. b. In Jesus' time, minted coins were used - currency was not "weighed out. c.Matthew said 30 pieces not 70 "By using phrases that made sense in Zechariah's time but not in Jesus' time Matthew once again gives away the fact that he creates events in his gospel to match "prophecies" he finds in the Old Testament. In Matthew, the chief priests took the money returned by Judas; in Zechariah, Zechariah requested wages from the people. In Matthew, Judas threw the money on the ground before the chief priests; in Zechariah, Zechariah was told to throw the money “to the potter,” which was achieved by throwing it into the house of the Lord for the potter. Matthew’s greatest emphasis is on the acquisition of a potter’s field. Zechariah says NOTHING about a field. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Who Believe In Reincarnation , Spirits , Voodoo Share Their Knowledge by malvisguy212: 11:34am On Sep 01, 2016 |
ifenes: The only God is Myself and maybe you if you will own up to it.
The Romans crucified hundreds,if not thousand of criminals and Jesus is not even a Jewish name,so I will ask you,who is jesus? You read my post and this is the best you can come up with ? Bottom line!! You invent god to satisfied some of your fear. How is your question relevant to what we are saying here ? Are we discussing the identity of jesus ? Or His origin ? We are talking about lies created by the Enemy of the church, it is either historians lied and the story of hurus is true, or the other way round. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Who Believe In Reincarnation , Spirits , Voodoo Share Their Knowledge by malvisguy212: 10:01am On Sep 01, 2016 |
ifenes: Maybe I have a better explanation for demons,spirit etc which have been given fearful medieval stories passed from generation to generation. My purpose is to give it a streamline/modern format.
Majority of people termed Atheists are right not to belief in such stuff but then,they are not helping themselves by just folding their arms by not re-visiting these mythological stories,study them and see what they were all about. Majority of the bible stories were Egyptian mythology. The similarities between Jesus and Heru/Horus, Mary and Auset/Isis and God the Father and Ausar/Osiris are incredible if you take the time to study them.
With methaphysics, you can understand the consents of ghost,demons and spirit easily. But being a christian is already a mental block for you,because you have rules that would stop you from expanding in knowledge. bro, save your effort in trying to explain the meaning of atheism. Atheism is simple a lack of belief in God, afterlife and in ghosts, is consistent with atheism. But here, you are re-enforcing The definition of atheism. Your believing in a ghost mean you presupposes that there is life after death, and this must rely on God. Among the claim of horus, he was crucified just like jesus was crucified. The story of horus happen when the earth was young, and there is NO tribe, nothing like Roman army. My question to you is that; who invent the crucifixion ? Historian believe it was the Roman . Who crucified horus ? You cannot say it was the roman army because the Roman do not Exist That time. Who was his disciples ? Their names ? were is their report ? Which river horus was baptize ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians,was The Gospel Account Of Matthew Divinely Inspired? by malvisguy212: 7:18am On Sep 01, 2016 |
raphieMontella: check ur bible...matthew claimed jesus's life was a fulfilment of those prophecies/non-prophecies
.This is at best a far-fetched quibble that fails to take note of the fact that Matthew routinely introduced written "prophecies" by saying that they had been spoken by so-and-so. E.g Matt 2:17-18,,Matt 1:22,,Matt4:14,,Matt 12:17..that was matthew's style of writing..
so can u produce where Jer said it? Read my post again, The prophecy were FIRST Spoken by jeremiah but NOT written, then Zechariah wrote The prophesy down. In fact Zechariah did not mention potter field, why ? Because jeremiah has already made reference to that. Jeremiah 32:9–12 |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians,was The Gospel Account Of Matthew Divinely Inspired? by malvisguy212: 12:25am On Sep 01, 2016 |
raphieMontella: Author=Anonymous Dating= [b]In Matthew 2:23..he claimed that a prophecy that Jesus would be called a Nazarene(an inhabitant of Nazareth) was fulfiled
As a matter of fact,bible scholars have not found any statement from any old testament prophet that could be referenced to this... The word Nazareth, as well as Nazarene, was never even mentioned in the Old Testament?[/b] Are you sure you are a christian before converting to atheist ? A Nazarene, is he also a nazereth ? Matthew 2:23 And he went and lived in a city called Nazareth, so that what was SPOKEN by the prophets might be fulfilled, that he would be called a Nazarene. The prophecy was SPOKEN so is was not necessarily written. First, you must understand that a "Nazarene" is not a "Nazarite." There's the Nazerite vow (Numbers 6:13), Samson was a Nazarite (Judges 13:5,24), but a "Nazarene" simply means a citizen of Nazarite. There are passages in the Old Testament which say Jesus would be called a Nazarene, but it's a matter of what is meant by the term "Nazarene." A "Nazarene" came to be a synonym for one who is contemptible or despised (John 1:46). We see similar terms today dealing with racism and nationalism. But notice that the previous two prophesies in Matthew 2; verse 15 says "the prophet, saying..." (singular) then he quotes directly from the scripture; verse 17 says "Jeremiah the prophet, saying..." (singular) then he quotes directly from Jeremiah. But notice how verse 23 is worded, "which was spoken by the prophets,..." (plural) and there's no word "saying" indicating a direct quote, "He shall be called a Nazarene." Notice the difference? It's because Matthew is using a summation statement. He's using something that the people of his time would be familiar with which would state the same thing that the prophets stated in Isaiah 49:7; 53:3, Psalm 22:6, that he would be despised. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians,was The Gospel Account Of Matthew Divinely Inspired? by malvisguy212: 12:04am On Sep 01, 2016 |
raphieMontella: In Matthew 27:9...Matthew falsely claimed that Jeremiah made a prophecy about the purchase of the potters field
There is NO Place in Jeremiah that this statement is made... Biblical scholars suggested that Matthew was quoting "loosely" a statement that was actually written by Zechariah (11:12-13) rather than Jeremiah. If this is true, then one can only wonder why a divinely inspired writer, being guided by the omniscient Holy Spirit, would have said Jeremiah instead of Zechariah. ?[/b] I don't know were to start from bro, but you are sooo wrong. The other verses you quote are NOT prophecy, matthew is not trying to say jesus fulfilled the prophecies in the verses you quote, matthew is only COMPARING the MINISTRY of jesus and the history of israel, for example when hariod kill the new born babies matthew chapter 2, matthew compare The tragedy with EXILE of the jews. I will only address the potter field. Alright. Matthew 27:9 says this prophesy was "SPOKEN by Jeremy... Some prophecies were spoken and not written. Some others were not spoken but only written, while some others were both spoken and written. When we read a Prophecy in the bible that say " IT IS WRITTEN". Then for sure we can find it in scripture, since it is guarantee in the scripture that it was WRITTEN. But when it say it was SPOKEN, we may not find it written or we may find it. BUT it may not guarantee that it was WRITTEN. What is guarantee is that is was spoken. |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheists Who Believe In Reincarnation , Spirits , Voodoo Share Their Knowledge by malvisguy212: 11:01pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Joshthefirst: Lol. I believe any atheist who believes in spirits and voodoo is a confused parader wasting his time and everyone elses How can an atheist say he or she disbelief in God yet believe spirit exist ? All what they are doing here, is just to twist it to fit in their delusion. Smh. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Hello Truthman2012, I Have A Message For You. by malvisguy212: 9:47am On Aug 31, 2016 |
Rilwon: The person you are calling out is an unrepentant reprobate. It's more like you are empowering him by giving him attention as you've done with this thread. hypocrite!! When you impersonate his user name, Are you not given him attention ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bizzare Crucifixion Of Jesus by malvisguy212: 12:39pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: are you saying heaven was empty when he was on earth? Or wah? My knowledge cant comprehend it..but yours can??..how sad... Why dont u show us all your top status intellect? when jesus teach his disciples how to pray, how did He begin ? Our Father IN HEAVEN. Is heaven empty ? Jesus promise to send the comforter (Holy spirit) to us. Is the comforter in earth or heaven ? |
Christianity Etc › Re: Morality Demands A Moral Law Giver by malvisguy212(op): 7:21am On Aug 30, 2016 |
malvisguy212: Why do people generally think that some actions are “right” and some actions are “wrong,” regardless of their subjective opinions? Why do most people believe that it is “evil” or “wicked” (1) for an adult to torture an innocent child simply for the fun of it? (2) for a man to beat and rape a kind, innocent woman? or (3) for parents to have children for the sole purpose of abusing them sexually every day of their lives?
Although objective morality may be outside the realm of the scientific method, every rational person can know that some actions are innately good, while others are innately evil. the man who says that it is morally acceptable To Molest little children, is just as mistaken as the man who says that 2 + 2 = 5” Most rational people do not merely feel like rape and child abuse may be wrong; they are wrong innately wrong. Just as two plus two can really be known to be four, every rational human can know that some things are objectively good, while other things are objectively evil.
However, reason demands that OBJECTIVE GOOD AND EVIL can only exist if there is some REAL, objective point of REFERENCE. If something (e.g., rape) can be legitimately criticized as morally wrong, then there must be an objective standard “some ‘higher law which transcends the provincial and transient’ which is other than the particular moral code and which has an obligatory character which can be recognized”
How can an atheists call something atrocious,wicked or evil? According to atheism, man is nothing but matter in motion . Humankind allegedly evolved from ape or should we say rocks and slime over billions of years. How could moral value come from rocks and slime? Who ever speaks of “wrong rocks,” “moral minerals,”or “corrupt chemicals ? People do not talk about morally depraved donkeys, evil elephants, or immoral monkeys.Pigs are not punished for being immoral when they eat their young. Komodo dragons are not corrupt because 10% of their diet consists of younger Komodo dragons. Killer whales are not guilty of murder. Male animals are not tried for rape if they appear to forcibly copulate with females. Dogs are not depraved for stealing the bone of another dog. Moral value could not arise from rocks and slime.
The fact that humans even contemplate morality testifies to the huge chasm between man and animals and the fact that moral value could not have arisen from animals. Atheistic evolutionists have admitted that morals arise only in humans.
The moral argument for God’s existence exposes atheism as the self contradictory, atrocious philosophy that it is. Atheists must either reject the truthfulness of the moral argument’s first premise (“If objective moral value exists, then God exists”) and illogically accept the indefensible idea that objective morality somehow arose from rocks and reptiles, or (2) they must reject the argument’s second premise (“Objective moral values exist”), and accept the insane, utterly repulsive idea that genocide, rape, murder, theft, child abuse, etc. can never once be condemned as objectively “wrong.” What’s more,if atheism is true, individuals could never logically be punished for such immoral actions, since“no inherent moral or ethical laws” would exist. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bizzare Crucifixion Of Jesus by malvisguy212: 6:38am On Aug 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: is jesus not god?...or was he joking when he claimed to be god?
gods plan... And then condemn the tools he used to hell..nice just like judas... Who incarnate in jesus the man ? When jesus walk with His disciples on Earth, who was in heaven ? This topic is way bigger than your imagination, your knowledge cannot comprehend it. It is better you stick with the issue, if God exist or not. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Bizzare Crucifixion Of Jesus by malvisguy212: 5:09am On Aug 30, 2016 |
raphieMontella: because thats how silly the crucifixion story is Alright. No need to correct you, any christian read this thread will understand how confuse you are, Are you sure you are a christian before you became an atheist ? Or you never went to sunday school class ? Do you know why I like thread like this ? It make the christians understand that atheists misunderstood God plan of salvation. I mean what you wrote up there EXPOSE the ignorance of atheists. You interpret matthew 27:46 by saying jesus cried to himself " myself myself ?" Lolll. Alright. |
Christianity Etc › Re: How Satan Has Deceived The Atheists by malvisguy212(op): 9:43pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
wamski: most of you see Satan as someone evil, dangerous but it's what you are programmed to believe by the church since childhood, what ENKI wanted for mankind was to acknowledge self as a divine being rather a God but the Jew stop this and corrupted this plan.... This is exactly satan plan in the beginning when he deceive Eve, "claim equality with God" the same thing the Atheists is doing. |