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Confirmer:
Messiah is the annointed one while the prophet is the chosen one. Differentiate

prophet deliver the message to God, they had nothing to do with fighting war, they are like a spiritual leader, but messiah are kings, it was this prophet that anoint the kings whom God has chosen. It was God himself that anoint Jesus (isaiah 61,luke 4:18)
Luke 4:18
"The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because
he has anointed me to proclaim good
news to the poor. He has sent me to
proclaim freedom for the prisoners and
recovery of sight for the blind, to set the
oppressed free,

So it make no sense for the Jews to boast " we have kill the messiah" (according to the quran). But in the bible, the Jews reject Jesus as the messiah that why they crucify him.

Confirmer:
Re read what you quoted. I was actually astonished with the fact that you said the Bible is from God despite the fact that it didn't originate from Jesus. I never said Jesus was given a book but he was INSPIRED by RUHU LIQUDUS (what the Christians refer to has Holy Spirit and the Muslim to as Gabriel). The actual question are; has the gospel stand the test of time? How many versions of the gospel do we have? Why so many contradictions in the gospel? Why has the gospel been revised by Christians over the years? If the Holy Ghost is the one inspiring the writers of the bible, who ain't Jesus, then you can as well be inspired and add or subtract from the bible? I can go on and on but let me stop here and wait for your answers.

the quran say , Allah gave Jesus the book (injil)

" He [Jesus] said, "Lo, I am God's
servant; God has given me the Book,
and made me a Prophet." S. 19:30"

But the problem is this; you say the book was not meant to last for ever without any prove. The truth is that you don't know the quran very well, you only say word that you think is right. Without prove.

Angel Gabriel and the holy spirit are different, who deliver the message to Mary? Is it not Gabriel?

Surah 21:91: “And (remember) her
who guarded her chastity: We
breathed into her of OUR SPIRIT, and
We made her and her son a sign for
all peoples.” (Yusuf Ali)

Is this spirit you called the angel Gabriel? Gabriel only came to deliver message.

Confirmer:
And they didn't kill (in fact behead) John the Baptist despite the fact that he was a prophet? The Jew knew John was a prophet and they didn't spare him so what makes Jesus any different.

do you know the meaning between messiah and prophet?

Confirmer:
Re read what you quoted. I was actually astonished with the fact that you said the Bible is from God despite the fact that it didn't originate from Jesus. I never said Jesus was given a book but he was INSPIRED by RUHU LIQUDUS (what the Christians refer to has Holy Spirit and the Muslim to as Gabriel). The actual question are; has the gospel stand the test of time? How many versions of the gospel do we have? Why so many contradictions in the gospel? Why has the gospel been revised by Christians over the years? If the Holy Ghost is the one inspiring the writers of the bible, who ain't Jesus, then you can as well be inspired and add or subtract from the bible? I can go on and on but let me stop here and wait for your answers.

I will reply you when I get home.

Confirmer:
Are we not saying the same thing? Despite the fact that Jesus was the messiah they still went ahead to kill him (even though they failed)

NO. Why will the Jews kill the one who will save them (according to the quran) the Jews never rejected moses. They are impatient.

Confirmer:
Did the Israelite not worship the Calf despite the fact that Moses was known to be a messenger? They were transgressors and many of the messengers sent to them, they killed.

the isrealite are a very stubborn nation,and God know this. Even the land they are about to possessed, God say;
"It is not for your righteousness or for
the uprightness of your heart that
you are going to possess their land,
but it is because of the wickedness of
these nations that the LORD your God
is driving them out before you, in
order to confirm the oath which the
LORD swore to your fathers, to
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
( Deuteronomy 9:5)

And in exedus, they are about to begin as a nation, everything was new to them so, at some point they even doubt Moses.but when they become fully aware of the promised, you can see in the gospel how Philip and Nathaniel reacts when they saw Jesus .

Confirmer:
And also the son of the bonds woman, I will make a nation also, because he {is} thy seed. Gen. 21:13. The Bible is not a reliable source bro because it's just too confusing.

God bless ishmael because ishmael was Abraham seed,God promise to bless his seed. but the covenant was with Isaac even the quran was in support of this.

Confirmer:
Malvisguy212 you are running everywhere opening new threads and losing out in the end. Don't you get tired? Whenever the Quran is talking about the Gospel, it's actually talking about the inspiration received from God via Ruhu liQudus (Holy Spirit) or Angel Gabriel. Do you guys think Jesus was reading the Gospel to the Children of Isreal from a book ? Jesus message was meant for the Israelites ALONE and the Gospel wasn't meant to last forever and that's why it's corrupted. God is capable of protecting is book like the Quran has been protected from any addition or alteration for CENTURIES. The bible was reviewed by scholars as early as in the 1900s and alterations and additions were made. There is only one universal Quran unlike the Bible. The contradictions in the Bible is so much that Nairaland won't be able to contain it. Salam.

you are soo wrong my friend, Jesus DID NOT read any gospel to anybody, the gospel is about him.

Jesus did not speak His own words, but
the words that the Father gave Him (John 8:38-42; 12:49-50; 14:24). His message was not primarily about Himself, but rather the good news that the Father ordained to be announced on earth. So what ever claims in the quran that say Allah gave Jesus a book, is a lie.

Let me tell you the truth, your spiritual knowledge is soo weak, you do not understand anything, it is only God that will deliver you from this spell, angels don't inspired people, it is ONLY the holy spirit that do such.

You said the gospel wasent meant to last for ever? This is the first time I am herring this, can you proved it ? Deep inside you, you know it's a lie. I will provide a verse in the quran that will expos your lie, but first, proved it "the gospel wasent mean to last forever" as you claim.

mubarakopeyemi:
The fools think because we don't reply them most times, we don't have our intellects intact.
The bible is infact a book of terror. The book speaks for itself.
Now we wont be silent anymore.
They say one bad thing about the Quran? we return 10 for them in their buyboo

read this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2381817/contradictions-analyzed-bible-quran

Come in let discuss.

9jaforlife:
[b]The Prophet (PBUH) NEVER killed anyone in his lifetime for leaving Islam. Anyone who does this is not following the teachings of the Quran and the traditions of the Prophet (PBUH).

Infact, it's Christianity that orders apostates to be killed.


APOSTACY

Zephaniah 1: 2-6
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I will sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble, along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship. I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun, moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who used to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's guidance or seek my blessings" [/b]

keep on deceiving your self.

Surah 4:89: They wish that you reject
Faith, as they have rejected Faith,
and thus that you all become equal
like one another. So take not
Auliya’ (protectors or friends) from
them, till they emigrate in the Way of
Allah (to Muhammad). But if they
TURN BACK FROM ISLAM , TAKE HOLD OF THEM AND KILL THEM wherever you
find them and take neither
Auliya’ (protectors or friends) nor
helpers from them.

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84,
Number 57:
Narrated ‘Ikrima: Some Zanadiqa
(atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he
burnt them. The news of this event,
reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had
been in his place, I would not have
burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle
forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish
anybody with Allah’s punishment
(fire).’ I would have killed them
according to the statement of
Allah’s Apostle, ‘WHOEVER CHANGE HIS
ISLAMIC RELIGION ,KILL HIM. ”

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83,
Number 17:
Narrated Abdullah: Allah’s Apostle
said, ‘ The blood of a Muslim who
confesses that none has the right to
be worshipped but Allah and that I
am His Apostle, cannot be shed
except in three cases : In Qisas for
murder, a married person who
commits illegal sexual intercourse
and the one who REVERT FROM ISLAM
(apostate) and leaves the Muslims.’

Clearly writing unless you want to keep on believing in lies.

although the old testament verse you quote are for the Jews who reject Jesus and still show more emphasis on the law, we, christians are save by his grace. However I will reply you because you fail to grab the lessons in Zephaniah

In Zephaniah 1: 2-6 it was a judgment against judeh , judeh was one of the twelve tribe of isreal, just to see how God don't ignored sin, even when isreal are his chosen people, God still punish them for disobedience to Him.

God message that Zephaniah delivered in Judah was shockingly severe. God had patiently sent a long string of prophets to warn Judah that their persistent rebellion would be judged, and Zephaniah's message suggests that God's anger had reached a boiling point. Unless they repent, He plans to erase them and any memory of them from the earth. Our future promises another terrible day of judgment for those who fail to heed God's warnings and come to Him on His terms. As the New Testament reminds us, "It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living God" ( Hebrews 10:31).

mubarakopeyemi:
You're pathetic

Muhammad PBUH is a true messenger of Allah who is very Humble and not proclaim to have any Godly powers. He has taught we muslims never to believe there is any other person as supreme as God. We're are all slaves of Allah (swt). You xtians calls Jesus God. Hmmm, I wonder why God allowed death (which he created) to kill him. This is a way of letting we muslims know that Allah is the Mighty and the Greatest and also a way of letting us believe that no human is as God. Your reasoning might be very low to realize it or you're probably blinded by hatred.

why did u ignore all other ones and hold just the moon splitting which indeed is one of the miracles of Prophet Muhammad PBUH.

He was told to prove to them that he is truly a prophet from Allah, and so he did one
you initially said he did no miracles and I sought the facts for you because you're ignorant to find out
now I gave u series of the miracles he did lol you said its more like Magic and not beneficial to mankind

and turning water to wine is not like sorcery right??

The quran is ever wise and full of wisdom. people like you had been portrayed in the Quran years before your forefathers were born.
Those who even denied then are more stubborn and mighty in the land, here you are you hating internet privileged ignorant making noise

Quran 54:1 Sahih International
The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two].
Quran 54:2
And if they see a sign, they turn away, and say: "This is continuous magic."

Infact goan sleep

do you know the meaning of miracle? I ask how is splitting of the moon a benefit to mankind? ALL prophet performed miracle (lame walk, blind received there sight, the sick are healed,dead raised e.t.c) with the exception of muhammed.

All true prophet must established who they really are, Is it not strange that after choosing every single one of His prophets from families who were already true believers, God would now choose a pagan worshipper who came from a pagan family as his prophet? We do not think so. That is why it should not surprise us to find many pagan rituals in the religion of Islam.
Muhammad incorporated them into the
religion of Allah. Therefore, to accept
Islam is to accept paganism and its lone
stone-kissing prophet. And as the Qur’an itself testifies clearly in Surah 29:27, Muhammad cannot be a prophet of the true God.

Galatians 4:22-28: It is written that
Abraham acquired two sons, one by
the slave woman and one by the free
woman; but the one by the slave
woman was actually born in the
manner of flesh, the other by the free
woman through a promise…Now we,
brothers, are children belonging to
the promise the same as Isaac was.

Jesus dead and ressurection mean, we are dead in sin and alive in christ; by one man sin enter this world (adam) and by one man life came:
1 Corinthians 15:21
For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also
through a man.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as sin entered the world
through one man, and death through
sin, and in this way death came to all
people, because all sinned--

Salvation is a gift to ALL men but not ALL accept it, when we accept Jesus, we are declared righteous by God, but we still need to work to proclaimed what God has declared us to be.

Confirmer:
The Isrealites were witnesses to the miracles that Jesus did (by the permission of Allah) so they knew for a fact that he was a true messenger. Its one thing to know the truth and its another thing to submit to it. Many were Prophets sent to the Isrealites that were killed Quran 2:87.

you know the messiah more than the isrealite, infacte you know there history more than them!!! The quranic verse I quote agreed, the Jews accept Jesus as there messiah and still went all the way to boast, "whe have killed the messiah" does this make sense to you? The Jews know the meaning of messiah "anointed one"( one who will save them) but they went on and kill the ONE. Keep on deceiving your self.

Rilwayne001:
Okay now, so according to your myopic sense of reasoning, everyone that reads the Quran or any muslims are inclined tp this pathetic teaching that inspire them to bomb people isn't it?

NO. At least you are not one of them, my point is , why the majority belong to islam.

Confirmer:
Continue wallowing in falsehood after the truth has been manifested. Even the Jew saw Jesus as an illegitimate child and it's only Islam that recognises Jesus (pbuh) as a prophet of God.

the Jews reject Jesus because they thought the messiah will fight war for them and win, All the kings in the bible fight war and they are expecting Jesus to carry on with this tradition of fighting battle and winning. But Jesus came to call his sheep. But here what the quran say:

Surah 4:157: And their saying:
Surely we have killed the Messiah,
Isa son of Marium, the messenger
of Allah; and they did not kill him
nor did they crucify him, but it
appeared to them so (like Isa) and
most surely those who differ therein
are only in a doubt about it; they
have no knowledge respecting it, but
only follow a conjecture, and they
killed him not for sure. (Shakir)

Does this make sense to you?If you read this account in its entirety from Surah 4:153 to Surah 4:162, you will understand who they are that are saying, “Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the messenger of Allah.” According to the
Qur’an, it is the Jews saying this. Think!
Would the hostile Jews call Jesus the
“Messiah” when they have rejected him
as the Messiah? It must be remembered
that the Jewish religious leaders even
objected when Pilate wrote a title saying, “King of the Jews.” (John 19:19-22). It is, therefore, illogical for the Jews to boastfully say that “we have killed the Messiah” when they did not accept Jesus as the Messiah in the first place. And if they did recognize him as the Messiah – as this verse implies – would they have killed him?

Rilwayne001:
I have answered this question. I don't care if you are unable to decipher it.



The fact that there are billions of its adherents shows that it inspired many to know who truly GOD is, what he wanted of us; it inspired many to know how to worship the true GOD almighty.



And from where did you come to the conclusion that 'the killing all over the world is the mercy I am talking about

when you turn on the news channel and you here of suicide bomber, before they reach the part that will say which religious group carry the acts, deep inside you, you already know them (at least). We have many religious leaders including muhammed, and they All claimed to teach inspired message, but the majority of the bomber belong to islam, is it the mercy to mankind? Accept or be bombed ?where do this people got this idea of accept islam or die?

Rilwayne001:
The conduit, through which the Quran was brought to mankind. Indeed, he is a mercy to us

you have said nothing, the op was not even reffering to the revelation given to muhammed, the point is this, how is muhammed a mercy to mankind? How did his message inspired many? The killing all over the world, is this what you called "mercy to mankind"?

guru1234:
The point has been made...continue contradicting ur bible when it say melchisedek has NO geneology and u continue ranting he might have. Well its left for u to either accept NO as NO or continue with ur illogical opinion.

the bible did not mention the mother of metusalah mean he did not have a mother?

guru1234:
guy wake up did the bible say jesus did not have geneology? rather the bible went ahead to attribute contradicting geneology to him, did the bible say moses did not have geneology or even methuselah? the answers are all NO....but the bible categorically say melchisedek have none, so your analogy is invalid....The quran address jesus by his mother name because he was born without male intervention....THE BIBLE AUTHOR JUST WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO PROVIDE A GENEOLOGY THAT IS SUPPOSE TO BE FOR JOSEPH and not JESUS

the bible is clear,melchisede is a priest to God , so not mentioning his geanology does not mean he doesent have, many bible scholar interpret him as Jesus some the mystery man all because he came from NO were. Your argument is lame , it is off point.

Jesus geanology is not contradicting, matthew trace his legal line and Luke trace his biological line, by legal right he inherited the throne of David and by biological right, He was the promised savior by God himself, meaning he is from God. Luke add some gentile nation and matthew add only the Jews. Luke to the world and matthew to the Jews.

mubarakopeyemi:
Christians often ask what miracles the prophet Muhammad performed; many of u even make the claim that the Quran and the hadiths record no miracles done by the prophet. However so, it seems that I am reading a different Quran and hadith then, because you would have to be blind, or a big liar to claim that there are no recorded miracles of the prophet found in Islamic sources.

The Traditions mentioned below are all from Sahih al-Bukhari, the most authentic collection of ahadith

2- Splitting of the Moon

"The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder" [Qur'an 54:1]

Volume 6, Book 60, Number 388:

Narrated Abdullah:

The moon was cleft asunder while we were in the company of the Prophet, and it became two parts. The Prophet said, Witness, witness (this miracle)."


3- Food Multiplication

Sahih Bukahri: Volume 4, Book 56, Number 780:

Narrated Jabir:

My father had died in debt. So I came to the Prophet and said, "My father (died) leaving unpaid debts, and I have nothing except the yield of his date palms; and their yield for many years will not cover his debts. So please come with me, so that the creditors may not misbehave with me." The Prophet went round one of the heaps of dates and invoked (Allah), and then did the same with another heap and sat on it and said, "Measure (for them)." He paid them their rights and what remained was as much as had been paid to them.

4- Water Multiplication

Volume 4, Book 56, Number 779:

Narrated 'Abdullah:

We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with Allah's Apostle on a journey, and we ran short of water. He said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah's Apostle , and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by him).

Volume 4, Book 56, Number 777:

Narrated Al-Bara:

We were one-thousand-and-four-hundred persons on the day of Al-Hudaibiya (Treaty), and (at) Al-Hudaibiya (there) was a well. We drew out its water not leaving even a single drop. The Prophet sat at the edge of the well and asked for some water with which he rinsed his mouth and then he threw it out into the well. We stayed for a short while and then drew water from the well and quenched our thirst, and even our riding animals drank water to their satisfaction.

5- Supplication for Rain

Volume 8, Book 73, Number 115:

Narrated Anas:

A man came to the Prophet on a Friday while he (the Prophet) was delivering a sermon at Medina, and said, "There is lack of rain, so please invoke your Lord to bless us with the rain." The Prophet looked at the sky when no cloud could be detected. Then he invoked Allah for rain. Clouds started gathering together and it rained till the Medina valleys started flowing with water. It continued raining till the next Friday. Then that man (or some other man) stood up while the Prophet was delivering the Friday sermon, and said, "We are drowned; Please invoke your Lord to withhold it (rain) from us" The Prophet smiled and said twice or thrice, "O Allah! Please let it rain round about us and not upon us." The clouds started dispersing over Medina to the right and to the left, and it rained round about Medina and not upon Medina. Allah showed them (the people) the miracle of His Prophet and His response to his invocation.

6- Lights to guide Companions

Volume 1, Book 8, Number 454:

Narrated Anas bin Malik:

Two of the companions of the Prophet departed from him on a dark night and were led by two lights like lamps (going in front of them from Allah as a miracle) lighting the way in front of them, and when they parted, each of them was accompanied by one of these lights till he reached their (respective) houses.

7- Crying of the stem of the Date-palm Tree

Volume 4, Book 56, Number 783:

Narrated Ibn Umar:

The Prophet used to deliver his sermons while standing beside a trunk of a datepalm. When he had the pulpit made, he used it instead. The trunk started crying and the Prophet went to it, rubbing his hand over it (to stop its crying).

8- The Prophet's Night Journey to Jerusalem (Arabic: Israa) and Ascent to the Heavens (Arabic: Miraj)

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 228:

Narrated Ibn 'Abbas:

Regarding the Statement of Allah"

"And We granted the vision (Ascension to the heavens) which We made you see (as an actual eye witness) was only made as a trial for the people." (17.60)

Ibn Abbas added: The sights which Allah's Apostle was shown on the Night Journey when he was taken to Bait-ul Maqdis (i.e. Jerusalem) were actual sights, (not dreams). And the Cursed Tree (mentioned) in the Quran is the tree of Zaqqum (itself) .

Volume 4, Book 54, Number 462:

Narrated Ibn Abbas:

The Prophet said, "On the night of my Ascent to the Heaven, I saw Moses who was a tall brown curly-haired man as if he was one of the men of Shan'awa tribe, and I saw Jesus, a man of medium height and moderate complexion inclined to the red and white colors and of lank hair. I also saw Malik, the gate-keeper of the (Hell) Fire and Ad-Dajjal amongst the signs which Allah showed me." (The Prophet then recited the Holy Verse): "So be not you in doubt of meeting him' when you met Moses during the night of Mi'raj over the heavens" (32.23)

Narrated Anas and Abu Bakra: "The Prophet said, "The angels will guard Medina from Ad-Dajjal (who will not be able to enter the city of Medina)."


A fellow human needs enlightenment.
Salam

how is splitting of the moon a benefit to mankind? Splitting of the moon sound more like magic rather than miracle.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages
show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to
perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these passages is in

Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you
unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you
own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through
it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to
fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our
eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb
into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will
not believe unless you bring a book that
we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I
ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN
MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

Rilwayne001:
…You guys should stop regurgitating this nonsense. Use your brain for once.

how your fasting?

MKO4ever:
Exactly my point:
Paul encountered Jesus on his way to Damascus same way Rev King encountered Jesus in his dream, same way all the scammer pastors encountered Jesus in one way or the other.
God gave the christians a book, but the book has been messed up through several modifications, alterations, additions and substractions and what you have today is a mere scam

yes, they encounter Jesus, but THY LORD KNOWS THOSE THAT ARE HIS OWN. Byee

tintingz:
Lol...

This is the correct text of the Quran verse you quoted.

O you who have believed, do not ask about things which, if they are shown to you, will distress you. But if you ask about them while the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be shown to you. Allah has pardoned that which is past; and Allah is Forgiving and Forbearing...

^^The bolded part

Is it not in the bible Jesus was cursing the Jews for asking questions and for signs?

the point is this "they ask questions and the questions lead them to abandoned their belief"
And muhammed got angry for people who ask questions;

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 3,
Number 92:
Narrated Abu Musa: The Prophet was
asked about things which he did not
like, but when the questioners
insisted, the Prophet got angry.

Why did Muhammad become angry at
those who asked him questions?
Why were people warned by Allah not
to ask questions?
How is that in Islam, questioning can
lead to losing one’s faith?
Does not this prove that even the right
answers can lead to losing one’s faith in
Islam?

Jesus did not get angry, the incident happened in his home town, His people doubt him as a prophet and when they demand for sign, Jesus did NOT say no sign shall be given to them but he say "ONLY the sign of jonah"

guru1234:
Guy dont let start disregarding the miracles of other prophet of GOD by trying to compare one with another...why is melchisedek not having geneology at all? why did Elijah not die but raised up to GOD? why didnt jesus go to the grave yard and wake everyone thier as done by other prophet?, why didnt he divide the sea?, why is jesus not the first man created solely by GOD?, why did he have to die and beaten by disbelievers when other prophet can rain thunder and fire on them?, and finally why did he have to say "MY GOD MY GOD WHY I HAVE U FORSAKEN ME" as if he is weak in faith ranting like an unbeliever when the average believers and unbelievers would GLADLY die for thier course?........EVERYONE AMONG THE PROPHET WHERE GIVEN THIER SPECIFIC MIRACLES THAT SOOT THIER TIME AND PPLE.

the bible did not provide the geanology of Jesus does not mean he (melchisedek) did not have one, the oldest man in the bible, methusalah, who was he mother? The fact that the bible did not made mention of his mother name mean methusalah did not have a mother? What about Moses? Did the bible mention his geanology?

The quran adress Jesus by his mother name, in what culture is a man adress by his mother name?

mubarakopeyemi:
I see pain

Quran 36:10
And it is all the same for them whether you warn them or do not warn them - they will not believe
Quran 36:11
You can only warn one who follows the message and fears the Most Merciful unseen. So give him good tidings of forgiveness and noble reward.
Quran 36:12
Indeed, it is We who bring the dead to life and record what they have put forth and what they left behind, and all things We have enumerated in a clear register.
Quran 36:13
And present to them an example: the people of the city, when the messengers came to it
Quran 36:14
When We sent to them two but they denied them, so We strengthened them with a third, and they said, "Indeed, we are messengers to you."
Quran 36:15
They said, "You are not but human beings like us, and the Most Merciful has not revealed a thing. You are only telling lies."

Islam is the way, if you don't like it go kill yasef
and mind you, muhammed also did Miracles, we muslims accept Allah as the Only Supreme. we don't overbeat on a Human being born on this earth and who ate food and call him God. so We don't shout that Muhammed did this or did that.
Just admit that you are ignorant to find out about the miracles he did or that you just hate islam.

I thought you wanted to provide verse were it say muhammed performed miracle, any way I don't want to stress you, just take your time and observe your fast perfectly. Thank you.

An2elect2:
Well you using NIV to get another interpretation of the verses against the KJV, even when the KJV is more accurate...and reliable. The scripture says those who received Christ were born of the Spirit. They received Christ because they were born again. I should ignore this and settle for NIV "wrong interpretation" hehehe epic



Okay, Where does faith unto salvation and righteousness come from? How come one believes and the other does not (for example)?

I don't use the king James version because the version was translated 400 years ago during the England medieval . Use of this translation
is problematic these days, since it uses
an archaic version of modern English,
which doesn't necessarily mean the same
things today as when it was translated
over 400 years ago. In addition, the KJV
was produced using a limited number of
medieval manuscripts that did not
represent the earliest Alexandrian set of
manuscripts.


Salvation ,faith and righteousness are different topics.

An2elect2:
John
1:12-13 King
James
Version (KJV)
But as
many as
received him,
to them gave
he power to
become the
sons of God,
even to them
that believe
on his name:
Which
were born,
not of blood,
nor of the will
of the flesh,
nor of the will
of man, but of
God.

Notice those who received Christ were those birthed not by the will or choice of any man but OF GOD.

Men whose choices are continuously evil can choose to do good? , "perfect good", "godly good", such as believing in the Son of God? like seriously??

Jeremiah 13:23;
King James Bible

Can the Ethiopian change his skin, or the
leopard his spots? then may ye also do good,
that are accustomed to do evil.

Is belief not a product of faith? yes, and it comes from somewhere which is not anywhere in man.


you say??

Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he
gave the right to become children
of God— children born not of
natural descent, nor of human
decision or a husband’s will, but
born of God. – John 1:12-13 (NIV)

Gift is free,you don't work for it because it's a gift, that how salvation is, is a gift to ALL men but not all received it. and the bible say in John 3:16 that Jesus is a gift to the world,


we must work to become what we
already are. When we place our faith in
Christ, we are declared righteous by God. It is a legal declaration that has
nothing to do with our actual character. If an angry alcoholic and a pre-school
teacher place faith in Christ at the same
time, they are both equally righteous in
God’s sight, because God declares them
to be righteous. But, both the alcoholic and the pre- school teacher must work to become what God has already declared them to be.

MKO4ever:
And I repeat that Paul never met face to face with Jesus, talkless of being among his disciples. Paul's main mission is to persecute, scam and destroy christianity which he has succesfully achieved.
And my question again: why is gospel of barnabas not part of the books in the bible- remember that Barnabas was not only one of the disciples, but was also very close to Jesus
The post that you referred me to is another scam: it did not answer any of my questions and so I say
Why is christianity full of scam (the bible itself, the supposed authors of the books, the churches and pastors, every where is just scam)
Why are the christians so blind to see the truth untill they are dead?
I love you so much my guy, that is why I am asking you to open your mind to the truth.

Paul encounter Jesus on the road to damascus, it was Jesus himself that called Paul and change his name from saul to Paul. Paul meet peter , peter is the head of the apostles, if Paul was teaching contradicting message, peter will challenge him. What is the obsession of muslims about Paul? What the quran say about Paul? Allah claims he gave the christians a books (scripture) and if Paul invent Christianity not even Allah made mention or prophesied about him? Smh

The time frame when the gospel of barnabas was writing is different from the four gospel, barnabas had died already before this book was writing, the gospel of barnabas even contradicte the quran.

Ubenedictus:
I think this is another old topic and I believe you have a good handle on ir.

Jesus died for all men, but only some will accept salvation an be saved.

thank you my good friend.

bashbabe2:
Adam is the first man and you keep saying this is how it should be
So why making the case of Jesus peculiar. This is how it should be.remember what we have been trying to tell you. Allah only have to say be and it will be. Exactly why Jesus doesn't have a father that's how it's meant to be nothing special.

we no the reason why God created adam, to multiply the earth, what about Jesus?if Jesus is just an ordinary prophet, why will God Allowed him to born of a virgin when human are in existence?

bashbabe2:
Evidence of this. You just lie

ADAM sinned
Surah 7:23: They said: “Our Lord, we
have WRONGED our own souls. If thou
FORGIVE US not and bestow not upon
us Thy mercy, we shall certainly be
lost.” (Yusuf Ali)
Jesus is faultless;
Surah 19:19
“He said: I am only a messenger of
thy Lord, that I may bestow on thee a
FAULTLESS SON .” (Pickthall)

And the hadith proved it;

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55,
Number 641:
Narrated By Said bin Al-Musaiyab:
Abu Huraira said, “I heard Allah’s
Apostle saying, ‘There is none born
among the off-spring of Adam, but
Satan touches it. A child therefore,
cries loudly at the time of birth
because of the touch of Satan,
except Mary and her child.” Then
Abu Huraira recited: “And I seek
refuge with You for her and for her
offspring from the outcast
Satan” (Surah 3:36)

Sahih Muslim, Volume 4, pg 1261:
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s
Messenger (saw) as saying: The satan
touches every son of Adam on the
day when his mother gives birth to
him with the exception of Mary and
her son.

Why should Jesus be the only man who
is without sin among mankind? The
Qur’an admits his sinlessness but gives
us no reason for it. The fact that the
Qur’an testifies that Jesus was a prophet
does not answer our question. Why then are other prophets not described in the Qur’an as being faultless? In fact, quite a few are shown to be wrongdoers. But we must ask again, “Why was Jesus the only one who is sinless and not other men?” We can only comprehend this if we understand the full significance of Jesus’ role in God’s purpose. We will also appreciate why all these unique features are vested in one man. Since the Qur’an does not reveal what made Jesus so unique, we need to go to the Bible for
the answer.

gensteejay:
Indeed, there are some concepts we Muslims are not expected to probe. Such concepts constitute the knowledge of the Unseen, and only Allah, has full knowledge thereof. Examples of such concepts are: destiny, fortune telling/forecasting, etc.

IMO, If man is privy to these concepts, then the sole aim for worshipping God has been defeated. This is tantamount to making the marking guide known to students before they sit for the exam; then such exam will not be a true test of their knowledge and/or understanding.

that is not the case of Christianity, we are advice to ask questions until we are fully convinced of what we believe, Christianity is not a blind faith. https://www.nairaland.com/2148108/christian-faith-based-upon-evidence

Confirmer:
It isn't difficult for him. It only need "be" and it shall "be"and God would need no Mary to carry the baby.

good, so actually God can have a son without a consort? Very God. Calling Jesus the son of God is not actually a bad thing.