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OLAADEGBU:enoch died, and the bible confirmed it,The apostle Paul mentioned the circumstances associated with Enoch in Hebrews 11:5, along with other men of faith, and then stated: "These ALL DIED IN FAITH, NOT having received the PROMISE" (Hebrews 11:13). Yes, Enoch died, and he did not receive the promise of heaven (verse 16) at the time the book of Hebrews was written. Let us examine the phrase In Genesis 5:24, where it says, "And Enoch walked with God: and HE WAS NOT; for God took him" and compare the same Hebrew phrase in: Psalms 37:36, "Yet he passed away, and, lo, HE WAS NOT: yea, I sought him, but he could not be found." Psalms 39:13, "O spare me, that I may recover strength, before I go hence, and BE NO MORE ." The Hebrew for the phrases are the same Hebrew as Genesis 5:24. As in the Psalms, the phrase means the person "PASSAWAY OR WOULD EVENTUALLY DIE" . Let’s look at the same phrase in the book of Genesis: Genesis 42:13, "And they said,Thy servants are twelve brethren, the sons of one man in the land of Canaan; and, behold, the youngest is this day with our father, and one IS NOT ." This was spoken by his brothers of Joseph. What’d they mean by "is not"? So what does the phrase"should not see death" mean? Notice it is not in the present tense, that he "did not see" death, but that he "should not see death." John 8:51, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, If a man keep my saying, HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH" Based on Hebrews 9:27, "And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:" and Hebrews 11:13, "These all died in faith, not having received the promises," we must conclude that Enoch died the first death. To believe Enoch did not die is to deny the plain word of many other scriptures as well. For example, Romans 5:12, "...so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned" and Romans 5:14, "...death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned." Are we to believe that Enoch did not . |
malvisguy212:Not even a FOOLISH atheist can answer this question? |
Rilwayne001:did I mention Abraham in my post? |
OLAADEGBU:John 3:13, "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." These words were spoken by Jesus himself at a time when ONLY CHRIST HAD SEEN GOD (John 1:18). And how did He know that no man had ascended up to heaven...the throne of God? Because he came from there! Therefore, what heaven did Enoch and elijah went ? The Scripture mentions three heavens (2 Corinthians 12:2), not just one! The first heaven is earth's atmosphere where birds fly (Genesis 1:20. Jeremaih 4:25) One of the Hebrew words for 'heaven' is shamayim. This same word is translated as 'sky' in the Scripture, as can be seen by comparing Genesis 7:3, "fowls also of the AIR," with Genesis 7:23, "fowl of the HEAVEN." The word 'sky' and 'heaven' are used interchangeably from the same Hebrew word (Psalm 8: . So the first heaven is synonymous with 'HEIGHT OR ELEVATION'. In fact in Exodus 19:20 the Lord was on mount saina when he called Moses and God described there as heaven.The second heaven is outer space where the planets and stars exist (Genesis 1:14-17; Psalm 8:3, Matthew 24:29). Usually the term "HOST OF HEAVEN" or "FIRMAMENT OF HEAVEN" is used to describe this second heaven. The third heaven is literally called "the third heaven" in 2 Corinthians 12:2. This third heaven is what Christ calls his "FATHER'S HOUSE" (John 14:2), and both Christ and the Apostle Paul calls it "PARADISE" (Luke 23:43, 2 Corinthians 12:2-4, Revelation 2:7). So it is clear, elijah and enoch did not go to the third heaven, which Jesus called his father. The purpose of God in removing Elijah was to replace him with another man who would occupy Elijah's office in Israel for another fifty years. This work had to start under a new king, for Ahaziah had just died, and Elijah was already aging. So, as not to disqualify Elijah in the sight of the people, God took him away allowing the mantle which signified the office of Elijah to drop into the hands of Elisha. Thus, God preserves the name and office of His prophet. In 2 king 2:16 the people believe elijah was taken to another location: 2 king 2:16 "Look," they said, "we your servants have fifty able men. Let them go and look for your master. Perhaps the Spirit of the LORD has picked him up and set him down on some mountain or in some valley." "No," Elisha replied, "do not send them." Elisha reply indicate it was God purpose of taken elijah that why he say "do not send them" So after All this event had happened Elisha had died, isreal find himself under a wicked king, God send elijah again; 2 Chronicles 21:12-15 12 Jehoram received a letter from ELIJAH the prophet, which said: “This is what the Lord, the God of your father David, says: ‘You have not followed the ways of your father Jehoshaphat or of Asa king of Judah. 13 But you have followed the ways of the kings of Israel,and you have led Judah and the people of Jerusalem to prostitute themselves, just as the house of Ahab did. You have also murdered your own brothers, members of your own family, men who were better than you. 14 So now the Lord is about to strike your people, your sons, your wives and everything that is yours, with a heavy blow. 15 You yourself will be very ill with a lingering disease of the bowels, until the disease causes your bowels to come out.’” The content of this latter indicate elijah wrote it after he was taken away. Elijah and enoch went the same heaven. Peace. |
BodyKiss:BodyKiss johnydon22 tonychristopher and Rilwayn001 God chose a stubborn nation like isreal, a blessing or a curse? |
jude2011:bro, it a choice, you worship Him or hate Him, Jesus say broad is the way that lead to hell, many will go in there, this prophecy will come to pass, as you can see, many people are questioning there belief, asking questions, which means the word of Jesus is being fullfiled right in front of us. Jesus say in Luke: "...when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:21 You see, Jesus knows this days will come. And the book of Timothy say: 2 Timothy 4:2-5 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you be watchful in all things..." Science cannot explained the nature of God and the bible was not writing for scientific purpose, but it was writing on how human can have a relationship with God through our Lord Jesus christ, So why doubting God? believing in God help you to control your moral life, God say do not kill,do not commit adultery, do not murder, All this law is for the good of human living in peace. |
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adenine02:I invite you here, https://www.nairaland.com/2376542/two-question And https://www.nairaland.com/2121425/allahs-invalidate-own-revelation |
adenine02:yes, it is true, that is why we say the bible is not a text book. Thank you for your time. Peace. |
Bigbang2013:1. Who say God is not one? Christians believe also in ONE God, this God has 3 personalities, just as a man has 3 personalities, body,soul and spirit. Genesis 1: 27 Let US create man in OUR IMAGE...the "us" and "our" indicate more than one personality and the "image" indicate, ONE essence. If God is 3 the verse should have say "IMAGES" can you explained the uses of the term "WE" and "US" in the quran? 2did the prophet you mention pray toward mecca? During the time of Joshua, ezra nahimiah is the kabba still a place of worshiping Allah? Provide evidence please!!! This is the truth, God exist in more than ONE dimension and he is not restricted to space or time, when ever you face and prayed, God will hear you. Christians don't have specific place to face, you can face any were to pray. |
mustymatic:you qoute all the op and when I was scrolling down, I was hoping you make a concrete defence, but NO, you only called him liar without telling us the lies in the op. |
adenine02:written in English or whatever language, it will only take the holy spirit to teach you the truth. Example, Philip and the ethiopian eunuch, the ethiopian eunuch was reading from the bible but he did not understand what he was readinga; Acts 8:30-31 30 Then Philip ran up to the chariot and heard the man reading Isaiah the prophet. “Do you understand what you are reading?” Philip asked. 31 “How can I,” he said, “unless someone explains it to me?” So he invited Philip to come up and sit with him. You cannot understand the truth in the bible unless the spirit guide you, the old testament forestshadow the new testament event, things that will happened in the future, to know this , you need to walk in the spirit. Read this thread and know what I am telling you. https://www.nairaland.com/1853536/end-days-end-harvest |
adenine02:just because you are thought the bible in school, c.r.s class for that matter mean you understand the bible. The bible is a seal book to the learn and unlearn and the bible is a complete book which message are easy to understand but it may take a lifetime to understand the TRUTH IN IT. Scholar has explained everything to you. |
Bigbang2013:Genesis 12:2-3 And I will make you a great nation, And I will bless you, And make your name great; And so you shall be a blessing; And I will bless those who bless you, And the one who curses you I will curse. And in you ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH WILL BE BLESSED." God chose Abraham to be a blessing to All people and Isreal is the first born of God people, and God chose them to be his own inheritance in Psalm 33:12) : Psalm 33:12 Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD, The people whom He has chosen for His own inheritance. It was through the Jews God used to reach out to the rest of the world through the new testament church Acts 1:8 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ENDS OF THE EARTH.” And to the passage you quote that is confusing you, Jesus healed the woman, the passage was talking about faith, persistence and boldness. |
Scholar8200:bro, bless you, I admire your scriptural knowledge.good morning. |
plaetton: plaetton:first, science cannot explained God and secondly science kill God, how is this possible? If I should agree with you, demon are afraid of atheists, does that mean they exist? |
plaetton:do you agree with Stephen? Enlightened me a little. |
adenine02:this is the song of Moses and Jesus and the saint's sang the song in revelation. exedus 15:1 15 Then Moses and the people of Israel sang this song to the Lord, saying, “I will sing to the Lord, for he has triumphed gloriously; the horse and his rider he has thrown into the sea. Revelation 15:2–3 2 And I saw what appeared to be a sea of glass mingled with fire—and also those who had conquered the beast and its image and the number of its name, standing beside the sea of glass with harps of God in their hands. 3 And they sing the SONG OF MOSES , the servant of God, and the song of the Lamb, saying, “Great and amazing are your deeds, O Lord God the Almighty! Just and true are your ways, O King of the nations! |
Alwaystrue:bless you my sister. |
adenine02:if you want to judge their differences, then you are wrong, very wrong because we can do the same for muhammed, let me quote from verse 15 for you again: Deuteronomy , 18:15-19 “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brethren–him you shall heed-just as you desired of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, ‘Let me NOT hear again the voice of the LORD my God, or see this great fire any more, lest I DIE . ‘And the LORD said to me, ‘They have rightly said all that they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him.” Jesus was clearly the mediator who Moses was talking about. He was the one man who could speak God’s words directly to the people. Why? Because he was God! He was God with a human nature who could speak God’s words to them. NO prophet stand a better chance than Jesus. Let me show you their similarities(Moses and Jesus) Moses : The first mediator Jesus : The final mediator Moses was born as a Hebrew Jesus was born as a Hebrew Moses was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Pharaoh) Jesus was born while his people were suffering under a cruel leader. (Herod) Moses hid in Egypt as a child. Jesus hid in Egypt as a child. The leader of the land that Moses was born into tried to kill all of the babies when he was born. The leader of the land that Jesus was born into tried to kill all of the babies when He was born. Moses turned water into blood. Jesus turned water into wine. Moses died on a hill. Jesus died on a hill. Moses fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain Jesus fasted 40 days and faced a spiritual crisis on a mountain. Moses told people about the need for a Passover lamb. Jesus became the Passover lamb Moses taught his followers how to pray. Jesus taught his followers how to pray. Moses chose people to carry on when he was leaving. Jesus chose people to carry on when he was leaving. Moses led his people to the promised land. Jesus leads his people to the promised land. Moses choose 12 leader Jesus choose 12 disciples Moses sent 12 spies to Canaan so he could bring people to the promised land. Jesus sent 12 disciples to the world so hecould bring people to the promised land. Moses appointed 70 rulers over Israel Jesus appointed 70 disciples to the nations. The people picked up stones to stone Moses but they did not succeed. The people picked up stones to stone Jesus, but they did not succeed. Moses controlled the waters of the Red Sea Jesus controlled the Sea of Galilee. |
plaetton:in Stephen hawking book title "the grand design"he concludes that physics has eliminated the need for God to have created the universe. Instead, he claims,the universe(or multiuniverse) was created from nothing by the laws of science (e.g. the law of gravity). In what matrix, did these laws exist in the absence of the material universe? |
adenine02:among their brother (the twelve tribe of isreal) Moses was a levi, levi is among the twelve tribe of isreal, there is no way muhammed or any other prophet outside isreal can claimed this prophecy was about him. Beside the quran was "a sent down from heaven" but deutoronumy say , I will put my word in his mouth, the different is clear. bible adress Jesus as a prophet and God, Jesus is fully human and fully God because he has the attribute of God. And He was born of a virgin. |
Scholar8200:Amen and amen. |
plaetton:one thing I understand is that science does NOT “explain” anything except in terms of its own non-intuitive concepts . science is ultimately a description of the physical universe not an “explanation”. That being the case science can never “explain away” the existence of a Creator because by definition its only tools are the laws of nature whose origin they cannot explain It is impossible for this law of nature e.g law of gravity to be in existence in a none material universe, don't you think ? So be careful about using arguments based on the explanatory power of science … that power has limits that seriously confine science’s ability to account for origins. |
Genesis 5 Genesis 5 contains the genealogy of Adam to Noah (Excluding Shem, Ham, and Japheth). This contains Adam, Seth, Enos, Cainan, Mahalaleel, Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech, and Noah. If you look at the meaning of those names Adam - Man (Note: First man) Seth - Appointed (Note: Israel descends from him) Enos - Mortal Cainan - Sorrow Mahlaleel - The blessed God Jared - Shall come down Enoch - Teaching Methuselah - His death shall bring (Note:Methuselah died in the same year the flood happened) Lamech - The despairing Noah - Rest/Comfort (Note: "Rest"is often tied to Salvation in the Bible) Put that together: Man appointed moral sorrow. The blessed God shall came down teaching his death shall bring the despairing comfort/rest. Meaning, man is bound to be mortal and have sorrow, and God will come down teaching people his death will bring the sorrowful salvation (See what I said about Noah). Genesis 22: 22:1-2 - "And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham, and said unto him, Abraham: and he said, Behold, here I am. And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of." 1) It's not that Isaac was his only Son, but he was the son of God's covenant, and was the only Son with Abraham at the time. Anyways, Abraham is going to give up his "only" Son . It's in the same way Adam was the "son of God", but Jesus was the only "Begotten" Son of God. 2) Moriah is where Jerusalem was in the future. Part of verse 3 - "And Abraham rose up early in the morning, and saddled his ass" When Jesus entered Jerusalem (Again, Moriah is where Jerusalem was to be), he was riding an Ass/ Donkey. Verse 4 - "Then on the third day Abraham lifted up his eyes, and saw the place afar off." Jesus died in Jerusalem (Moriah), and rose the third day. Verse 5 - "And Abraham said unto his young men, Abide ye here with the ass; and I and the lad will go yonder and worship, and come again to you." Abraham, knowing full well what he was going to do to Isaac, implied that he was going to come back with Isaac. He was either lying (He was a godly man, though) , wasn't actually going to do it (Obviously not true, look at verse 10), or thought he was going to rise from the dead (Like Jesus actually did, in the same area Abraham was at at the time) Verse 8 - "And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together." Jesus is the Lamb of God. http://www.christianforumsite.com/threads/the-gospel-in-genesis.40634/ |
raayah:http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-32373166 |
raayah:they do not killed only christians but they killed whoever disagree with them, the quran called them hypocrite(those who disagree ) Isis forced christians to convert or die. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28381455 |
The Islamic State militants are partially responsible for the deadliest era of Christian persecution the world has ever seen. But could that also mean they're exposed to a form of evangelism like no other? These martyrs are not dying silently, and the Lord is apparently working through them. "One of our YWAM workers in the Middle East was contacted by a friend earlier this year and they met up and he was introduced to an ISIS fighter who had killed many Christians already. I mean that's a horrible situation, and admittedly, he was probably on guard," Gina Fadely, director of Youth With A Mission Frontier Missions. "He told this YWAM leader that he had begun having dreams of this man in white who came to him and said, 'You are killing My people.' And he started to feel really sick and uneasy about what he was doing," Fadely continued. "The fighter said just before he killed one Christian, the man said, 'I know you will kill me, but I give to you my Bible.' The Christian was killed and this ISIS fighter actually took the Bible and began to read it. In another dream, Jesus asked him to follow Him and he was now asking to become a follower of Christ and to be discipled." It seems crazy, but our God can work miracles! Take a listen to hear the rest of the story here https://soundcloud.com/the-voice-of-the-martyrs/when-an-isis-fighter-wants-to-talk Source: http://www.charismanews.com/world/49983-after-murdering-christians-isis-fighter-has-vision-of-jesus |
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. So the first heaven is synonymous with 'HEIGHT OR ELEVATION'. In fact in Exodus 19:20 the Lord was on mount saina when he called Moses and God described there as heaven.
