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kheart:
Bros calm ur nerves please. u see in d bible jesus preach monotheism all through. in order word, he emphasise dat we should submit to one true God (ie islam). eg in mark 10:18, john 5:30, john 20:17. Etc

And about d time bible gor corrupted. Please am goin to ask u dis question. Who re d authors of the bible and how many years was d first authors work wit jesus death?

kheart:
2. the greatest miracle of the prophet is the quran and that is what we like to emphasise . The qur'an is an outstanding miracle that will forever stand the test of time. The prophet PBUH was unlettered and illiterate which is a proof he couldnt have written the quran himself or copied it from somewhere. Is it the scientific miracles of the quran we want to talk about ?

Physical miracles like healing and so on we do not emphasise as the devil himslef can perform all this, even Jesus said in the bible false prophets will do greater works than he did.

4. Jesus PBUH is the great prophet of God , a messenger among messengers , the prophet whose message Muhammad PBUH came to fulfil. Jesus is among 5 greatest messengers of God. Jesus PBUH perfomed many miracles by the permission of God. He spoke as a baby in the cradle to defend his mother Mary PBUH when she was accused of an illegitimate child.. He s not the son of God cos God begets not nor ws he begoten. (D bible affirms diis)

malvisguy212:
the scripture make it clear that no one know the day or the hour of christ return.but the bible dos say that we can know the time and season surrounding his coming,you may be thinking the usual saying like... So because disease and immorality are running rampant and because there are wars and rumors of war and we have had some few earthquake that jesus is coming soon ? Yeah we've heard all that before. But after studying the bible I discover somting interesting about the end of days. Pleas read.


my theory about the end of days started when I read a verse in isaiah 46. It say that God declare the end from the beginning. A similar verse was in isaiah48. This lead me to the creation story in the book of genesis. As I study the first chapter, I began to wonder, WHY IT TOOK GOD SIX DAYS TO CREATE THIS WORLD AND REST ON THE SEVENTH DAY,WHY WOULD HE TAKE SIX DAYS WHEN HE COULD HAVE CREATED THE WORLD IN ONE SECOND, IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE?I started studying the word"day" and days" I discover some interesting passages that related to this. Maby God is indicating to us how much time man would have on earth. this is the point, the bible especially the old testament is full of foreshadowing. An event that actually happen in history, also picture somting coming in the future. An example is the sacrifice of abraham and isaac, that even actually happen,and it was also a picture of what God will do to his son jesus on the cross as an offering for the sin of the world. Now why will God take SIX days to create the world? Is this a picture of somting we need to know? I think it is. In 2peter 3:8, the context was reffering to the second coming of jesus christ,the bible say that a one day with they Lord is as a thousand years and a thousand year is like a day. Psalm 90. A thousand year in God sight is like yesterday.so could it be that the six days of creation were you indicate to us the time man will spend on this earth would be about six thousand years?...the seventh day of rest picturing the thousand years millennia reign, when christ come back to set up is kingdom, the time of righteousness and peace.bible scholar have calculate from the first man adam to the first coming of christ to be 4000years,if that is the case then we are could have been living at the end of what the new testament called THE LAST DAYS. now this is the issue. God deal with time in the bible, when God measure time He dose so by seven.....
1.God created the world in seven days, with the seven day being for REST.
2according to the old testament law,the jew were commanded to REST every SEVEN days.
3.the seventh week after the passover, they celebrated a big feast of REST.
4.the seventh month of were perhaps the most important when they celebrated three of there biggest feast of REST.
5.every seventh year was the year of REST for the land.
6.every 49years ,seven times seven, they celebrated the year of jubilee, which is a year of REST for the land and liberty for the people. so it made perfect sense to me that God would set up a seven thousand year period for man to occupy the earth, with the last thousand year being a time of REST when jesus come back to set up his earthly kingdom, as spoken in revelation20.I was right when I say God deal with time he dos so by seven.the second coming of christ is the most important day in God's calendar , he want us yo know the timing .

Hosea was a prophet in the old testament, in verse 6 of that book , hosea talk about isreal, God chosen nation, who was always rejecting God.the nation was goin to be torn apart, but verse two say" after two days will he revive us , the third day he will raise us up and the we shall live in his sight"what dos this mean? When jesus come isreal reject him as there messiah , so God scatter the nation of isreal all over the world. For 1900 years there is no nation of isreal but God say after two days[ or 2000yrs] I will revive thee, and you, isreal will live in my sight: the scatter isreal became a nation in the year 1948.this is important because God is reviving the nation of isreal and they are about to live in his sight when jesus come back to set up his earthly kingdom , have you ever meet a cannanite ? How about the amorite? No because these are isreal enemies and God did not preserve them, the jew have been preserve because they are God chosen people and he must fulfill and keep his promise he made to them but the jew are still rejecting christ, for how long?after two days [or 2000years] I will revive thee and the third day you shall live in my sight.

The second coming event are about to begin, I see the same foreshadowing in exodus 19:11. God told isreal to clean up and wait for two days, the third day I'm comin down in the sight of they nation. In john 11. Lazarus died a jew, jesus waited for two days before he raise him from death, this is a picture of how God is about to turn his back from isreal for the next two thousand years [or two days] and start reach out for the rest of the world through the new testament church which he did. God dint just throw this stuff in the bible to wast space ,maby am right , maby God is tryin to tell us somtin.in matthew17:1 say that jesus tool peter, james and john up to the mountain, apart from the rest, did the thing we want to know happen up there? Yes.jesus transfigured before them and the are giving a preview of his second coming glory, now the first word of the verse was "after six days" why did God throw this in? To was space? Or is God tryin to tell us somtin that we need to know?note:the time from adam to jesus is 4,000years[4days] the time of the church period is two thousand years[2days] so could this mean after 6000yrs [6days] God will revive isreal and fulfill his promise he made to them? Hmmm am I reading to much . If am right, BROTHERS WE ARE LIVING IN THE END OF DAYS. REPENT. THANK YOU.

Confirmer:
Was Abraham not a prophet? Sarah convinced Abraham to take Hagar as WIFE right, who convinced Abraham to take Sarah as wife? Was it God? You failed woefully to address my reply to plainbible but you are here giving your postulations against a clear verse in the bible.

Confirmer:
May God forgive you for insinuating that Sarah, and by extension Prophet Abraham, lost patience. Why would they lose patience if they were sure of God's promise since God never fails? It was simply because they have not received the revelation from God about the birth of Isaac. It was after the test that they were promised Isaac.

Confirmer:
see my reply to plainbible

klbakare:
u just dey realize,mr adult? I am worth the time of more reasonable people. Bunch of intolerant trouble makers!

DravenCreighton:
The ever ignorant malvis. None of them was sacrificed mate.

DravenCreighton:
I'm just saying, why not quote the verses so everyone can see what they say, just saying.

Samunique:
May the Lord God the father of our Lord Jesus Christ bless your efforts even as you appear to be among the few who defend the Christian faith in these trying times, may He also defend u in the day of adversity and crown all your efforts with bountiful rewards here on earth and in the world to come in Jesus name.

Pls I will like to know u more maybe we can work together as a former Muslim.

Thanks very much for doing what our so called pastors fail to do.

johnydon22:
Seriously the way you talk sometimes makes me wonder if you even read what you post. .

we are talking children here, day old babies, months old babies, a year old, 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 and every other age within childhood not to forget even pregnant women were ripped open.

How do you even justify killing these . . . wooooow

johnydon22:
And thats why the children were killed too....

Sometimes i just wish you read what you posts in your defence of these barbaric acts. .

johnydon22:
This guy's lack of basic comprehension is epic. . My question was simple



Let me just drag myself back to the science section and continue with people that has basic cognizance #Sighs..

plaetton:
Crap as usual.
Bottom line is, you are still supporting and justifying genocide.
That still makes you A scary character.

johnydon22:
The way to punish them was to command the death of both guilty and innocent. . .

The canaanites used their children as sacrifice, then god decided to punish them by punishing both the men and the same children one would think was the reason for the judgement to be passed in the first place.

So he made to punish them by punishing the children along with it. . . Isn't that exactly what the people initially were doing?

Isn't that why the cities were punished? Killing children.

Then after god punished the city by killing both men and children, Was it not the same crime he punished the canaanites for?

plaetton:
No. I don't take this as an insult.
But I judge you, malvisguy212, your moral compass, on account of what you support or do not support on this forum.

If you find justification for the many genocidal acts of yahweh as presented in the bible, then surely, a lot of us would begin to shudder, not only about your moral character, but of your sanity altogether.
You are what you believe.

Medicis:
@Malvisguy212 I urge to simply ignore this guy. One cannot comment on their thread if one is not a muslim but they come here to cause trouble. This clearly shows that they are scared.

plaetton:
Once again, moral schizophrenia kicks in, and you are saying, and reiterating that god's acts of genocides are perfectly justified ?

Even I, an imperfect human, cannot ever condone or justify genocide on any account whatsoever.
On that account, I will always remain a better human than you are, all of you Yahweh worshippers, irrespective of what trash you believe in.

kheart:
Hello Nairalanders, I am muslim and I need answers to some of this tough questions we (muslims) always ask people of the book.

I hope d thread ll not be hijack by e- warriors and bigots cos the purpose of this thread is shed some light in d underlying issues in d 2 faith.

Thanks for ur Cooperation.

Questions
1. Your Bible has been corrupted?

There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (As they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: It is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it! (Quran 3:78)

There are of course many other verses in the Quran which say the Bible has been corrupted.

2. What about the predictions of Muhammad (saw) in the Bible?

And when Jesus the Son of Mary said, O children of Israel, verily I am the Apostle of God sent unto you, confirming the law which was delivered before me, and bringing good tidings of an Apostle who shall come after me, and whose name shall be Ahmed. And when he produced unto them evident miracles, they said, this is manifest sorcery.  (Quran, 61:6)"

3. God has no son - do christians worship 3 Gods?

O people of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion, nor utter anything concerning God save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of God, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in God and His messengers, and do not say 'Three'. Desist, it will be better for you. God is only One God. . . The Messiah would never have scorned to be a slave of God.' (Surat al-Nisa, 171-2) 

4. Jesus was never crucified

“and their saying : we killed Christ Jesus, son of Mary, The messenger of Allah - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them so; and those who disagree concerning it are full of doubts; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; For surely they killed him not; but Allah took him up unto Himself; and Allah is ever mighty, wise." (Quran 4: 157 & 158)

Note:
No insult please, I need rejoinders ASAP hope d mods will do d needful ASAP too. May Almighty Allah bless those that adhere to the rules

Rilwayne001:
Deu 20:10-14 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace. If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you. If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.

So, whats the OP yarning about

plaetton:
It's all there in black and white in the bible, how Joseph, using his official position in the Pharoah's court, craftfully swindled ordinary Egyptians of their land, and then enslaved them to work in same lands for him just for their daily sustenance.
It is a manual on how to turn your landlord into your slave.

malvisguy212:
The Islamic State militants are partially
responsible for the deadliest era of
Christian persecution the world has ever
seen.
But could that also mean they're exposed
to a form of evangelism like no other?
These martyrs are not dying silently, and
the Lord is apparently working through
them.
"One of our YWAM workers in the Middle
East was contacted by a friend earlier
this year and they met up and he was
introduced to an ISIS fighter who had
killed many Christians already. I mean
that's a horrible situation, and
admittedly, he was probably on guard,"
Gina Fadely, director of Youth With A
Mission Frontier Missions.
"He told this YWAM leader that he had
begun having dreams of this man in
white who came to him and said, 'You
are killing My people.' And he started to
feel really sick and uneasy about what he
was doing," Fadely continued. "The
fighter said just before he killed one
Christian, the man said, 'I know you will
kill me, but I give to you my Bible.' The
Christian was killed and this ISIS fighter
actually took the Bible and began to read
it. In another dream, Jesus asked him to
follow Him and he was now asking to
become a follower of Christ and to be
discipled."
It seems crazy, but our God can work
miracles! Take a listen to hear the rest of
the story here https://soundcloud.com/the-voice-of-the-martyrs/when-an-isis-fighter-wants-to-talk

Source: http://www.charismanews.com/world/49983-after-murdering-christians-isis-fighter-has-vision-of-jesus

intergral:
still off track... Please try harder

Rilwayne001:
Mtshew. keep fighting it, sho gbo?



[b] What would you have said if not your ignorant conclusion up here? Well, that's the definition of stiffnecked gainsayer that you are. I won't bother myself by engaging with you, because I know its a futile mission.

Bon voyage.

kinggenesis:
Hahahahaha! indeed. The bible was written for
spirits. I believe you.

Rilwayne001:
And what makes you think other muslims are gullible ignorant folks like you?



What makes you think they refused to heed to warning being the fact that Catholic Church is the world's largest single religious body and the largest Christian church, comprising over half of all Christians ( 1.1 billion Christians of 2.1 billion ) ? Is it possible that 1.1 billion people wouldnt heed to this alleged holy spirit?

Rilwayne001:
I swear to God, I have a lot to say. But of what benefit will it be for a stiffnecked being that you are?

Rilwayne001:
Mtshewww. same old crap.

Rilwayne001:
My question still stand, or else you want to tell me the holy spirit duty according to the bibleis not to guide believers.

kinggenesis:
Who Moved David to anger? God or Satan?

II SAMUEL 24: And again the anger of the LORD was kindled
against Israel, and he moved David against them to say, Go,
number Israel and Judah.

I CHRONICLES 21: And SATAN stood up against Israel, and
provoked David to number Israel.

Rilwayne001:
So, the dude I quoted was talking trash, isn't it??

How come this holy spirit is yet to convict the catholic church or the Jehovah witness ? After all, you believe they are sinners, aren't they?