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sukkot:evil is not really a created thing. You can't see, touch, feel, smell or hear evil. It is not one of the fundamental forces of physics, nor does it consist of matter, energy, or the spatial dimensions of the universe. Still, skeptics like to claim that God created evil and cite the Bible to "prove" their point. The Bible is quite clear that God is not the author of evil and insists that He is incapable of doing so. |
That2:God did not seat back,bible say"God declear the end from the beginning" before you were born he know your ending,at the womb God say "jacob i love esau i hate" |
That2:listen and listen carfully,God did not created you with pain or disease, if a child is born with disease,it mean satan work his magic on the child. John 9 New International Version (NIV) 9 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” 3 “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the work (Glory) of God might be displayed in him. |
plaetton:If a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble? If a calamity occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? (Amos 3:6, NASB) When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When disaster comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it? (Amos 3:6, NIV) Likewise, Amos 3:6 uses the same word, râ‛âh, referring to calamity or disaster. the context (a disaster happening to a city) does not refer to moral evil. |
AlfaSeltzer:God own you know answer,have you ever called on the name jesus?it is you that can help your self,aknowlegde the power of God first ,take the first move,read in the bible, all the people jesus healed,they are the one's that called his name even when they did he walk by until they say "Lord have mercy on me" you have a genetic disease because God want to manifest his glory on you,the opposite of glory is shame, wherever you see the word"Glory" in the bible, is to put to shame the devil,God want to use you to shame the devil but first, are you ready to accept jesus christ as your Lord and saviour? Change your signature if you accept. Thank you. |
experimentist:i will give you verse that specifically mentions the death of Jesus before his ascension to heaven: Surah 3:55: Lo! God said: “O Jesus! Verily, I shall cause thee to DIE, and shall EXALT thee UNTO Me, and cleanse thee of the presence of those who are bent on denying the truth; and I shall place those who follow thee far above those who are bent on denying the truth, unto the DAY OF RESURECTION” (Asad) God said, “O Jesus, I shall cause you to DIE and will RAISE you UP to Me and shall clear you [of the calumnies] of the disbelievers, and shall place those who follow you above those who deny the truth, until the DAY OF JUGDEMENT” (W. Khan) this two verses first mention "DIE" before "RAISE" and the next is "JUGDMENT" This verse emphasizes that Allah caused Jesus to die before he was raised to heaven. But more importantly, this verse shows that the death and ascension of Jesus occurred before the “Day of Judgement.”In other words, before the second coming of Jesus. This is verified by the fact that after mentioning the death and ascension of Jesus, the Qur’an states that the disciples of Jesus will be placed above the disbelievers until the “Day of Judgement” – clearly a future event that is yet to occur. This means that that the statement by Muslims that Jesus will die only after his second coming is a lie. Now, let’s look at the second Qur’anic verse that strongly supports the fact that Jesus actually died before his ascension to heaven. This verse is important because it gives us a time-frame. According to this verse, after his ascension to heaven, Jesus spoke the following words to Allah: Surah 5:117: Nothing did I tell them beyond what Thou didst bid me to say: `Worship God, who is my Sustainer as well as your Sustainer.’ And I bore witness to what they did as long as I dwelt in their midst; but since Thou hast CAUSED ME TO DIE, Thou alone hast been their keeper: for Thou art witness unto everything. (Asad) I was a witness to what they did as long as I remained among them, and when You did CAUSE ME TO DIE, You were the watcher over them. You are the witness of all things. (W. Khan). Study the wordings of this Qur’anic passage very carefully. This Qur’anic verse clearly shows that now in presence of Allah after his ascension to heaven, Jesus spoke of his death as already having occurred. Thus, his ascension to heaven took place only after Allah caused him to die. Thus, the claim that he will die only after his ascension and during his second coming is a deceitful attempt by Muslim scholars to cover a contradiction in the Qur’an. Jesus clearly died before his ascension. The words of Jesus in this Qur’anic verse clearly show: (One) When Jesus was with his disciples on earth, he bore witness to them. (Two) But then Allah caused him to die. (Three) And now in heaven, Jesus says that Allah alone watches over them at present. I will advice you to study your quran very well. |
experimentist:were did he died? |
sukkot:alright bros, i got qustion for you, but maby later in the evening.till then bros. |
experimentist:Surah 19:33: Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive! (Pickthall) “There was peace on me the day I was born, and will be the day I die, and on the day I will be raised from the dead.” (A. Ali) the above testimony of Jesus in Surah 19:33 clearly proves that he died before his ascension to heaven,but muslims scholar interpret this verse by saying jesus will die when he come back again,they try to explain away this quranic verse,they say this withh ignorence. John the baptist say this about his death,MUSLIMS SCHOLAR AGREE WITH THE CHRONOLOGICAL SEQUENCE OF EVENT ABOUT THE DEATH OF JOHN THE BAPTIST ,BUT DISAGREE WITH THE DEATH OF JESUS. in Surah 19:15. Note the similarity in the wordings: Surah 19:15: And peace on him on the day he was born, and on the day he dies, and on the day he is raised to life. (Shakir) when muslims try to explain this verses,. They deliberately distort and destroy the chronological sequence of the event, even though the chronological sequence is identical in both cases. Muslim scholars would rather make completely unsupportable arguments than admit that the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ is taught in this Qur’anic verse. They try to explain this verse, If the interpretation of these Muslim scholars is correct, then Surah 19:33 should have Jesus saying: “Peace on me the day I was born, and the day I shall be raised alive and the day I shall die” in harmony with their claimed chronological sequence of events. BUT IT DOES NOT. MY QUESTION: We must ask these scholars, since Surah 19:33 and Surah 19:15 are identical in the sequence of events, why don’t they also shift the death of John the Baptist to the future – after his resurrection – as they did in the case of Jesus? Why the discrepancy? In fact, there is not a single passage in the entire Qur’an that shows that Jesus will return to die. Since the parallel statement in the case of John shows that he died, clearly then, Jesus must also have died accordingly. There is an interesting remark by the renowned Qur’an translator, Yusuf Ali, in his footnote of Surah 19:33: |
sukkot:am alright bros,sun to much but we thank God. is like whenever you open a thread, no one agree with you, they always scoff you. |
sukkot:michael the archangel? Lol. Greating bros. Good to have you back. |
CANTICLES:God is greater than his Word(jesus) , just as you are the one that can control your word that is it, God is the one that decided to speak jesus. Hebrews 11:3King James Version (KJV) 3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. In other word:God speak his word(jesus) and the world came to be. |
tartar9:the bible is a sealed book to the learn and unlearned until you study it with a teachable spirit,read the story of the ethiopian eunuch and philip, the man was an educated and well respected man but he was reading the bible without understanding it meaning until the spirit of truth(holy spirit) ask philip to draw close to him and interpret the bible to him. You mention the name of muhammad and add (pbuh) on his name, why will you pray for peace upon someone who is said to be in heaven in the prescence of God? Between me and him, who is experence everlasting peace? Is he not the one that soppose to interceed for my peace because he seat close to God? Compere to what jesus said"my peace i give unto you, not as the world giveth" the more you type the more you see how muhammad misinterpret the bible and called his book quran, as a matter of fact it is his wife a business woman that convince him, what he saw was an angel,there are many things muslims dont understand about God,do you realy think God will wait for 500 years before he will send a prophet to contradict his plans to mankind? What happen to those people that died before muhammad message?The true God will not wait that long, abraham died immediatly issac continue isaac died jacob take over, jacob died joseph take over that how it continue,elijah was even alive when elisha take over, but it only the turn of muhammad God will wait for sooo long? This how the devil want to lead mankind to hell,i pray God have mercy on you guys. |
tartar9:the jew has been disobeying God since the days of abraham and the prophet,whhen they killed the prophet ,why dint you mention it?isaiah say the messaiah will be king of kings, in those day all the jewish kings fought war and win battle, so they expect the messaih to keep the tradition of fighting war, but when jesus came, he preach the gospel and he was crucify by the jew, do you still expect them to believe in him? This is the problem with you muslims,when you interpret the word of God with your own knowlegd you will never understand,bible say the wisdom of God which passes all understanding shall abide in you, so pray for God wisdom to dwell in you and then you can interpret they word of God. Thank you. |
tartar9:are you new to the quran?why do you ask for forgivness? Is it not when you sin then you will ask for forgivness? The Quran identifies Muhammad as a sinner: 40:55, 48:2, and 47:19: 40:55 Therefore have patience; God’s promise is surely true. Implore forgiveness for your sins, and celebrate the praise of your Lord evening and morning. 48:2 ... so that God may forgive you your past and future sins, and perfect His goodness to you; ... Below is the Quran 47:19 in five English translations, (NOTE: Muhammad is asking for forgiveness for both himself and hisfollowers). "Know that there is no deity but God. Implore Him to forgive your sins and to forgive the true believers, men and women. God knows your busy haunts and resting places." Dawood [3] "So know (O Muhammad) that there is no God save Allah, and ask forgiveness for thy sin and for believing men and believing women. Allah knoweth (both) your place of turmoil and your place of rest." Pickthall [4] " Know thou therefore that there is no god but God, and ask forgiveness for thy sin, and for the believers, men and women. God knows your going to and fro, and your lodging." Arberry [5] "Know, then, that there is no god but God; and ask pardon for thy sin, and for believers, both men and women. God knows your busy movements and your final resting places." Rodwell [6] "Know therefore that there is no god but Allah and ask forgiveness for the fault and for the men and women who believe: for Allah knows how ye move about and how ye dwell in your homes." Ali [7] |
AfricanApple:when you read the visitation of the angel gabriel to mary in the quran,there is somthing strange there,the angel did not tell mary the reason of here virgin birth,let me quote the verse for you. Surah 3:45-47: Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to God…She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: God createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is! (Yusuf Ali) now, mary ask a very important qustion"how shall i have a son when no man has touch me?" the angel did not answer this qustion, the angel just say"whatever allah created he say be and it was, allah created what he willeth" this means according to the quran the virgin birth of mary is God manifest his power on us,God will not interupt his creative power for no reason, there must be somthing, and the quran did not tell us what is it. Now compere the bible account of the virgin birth: Luke 1:30-35: And the angel said to her: “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. Behold! You will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you are to call his name Jesus. This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High; and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule as king over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end of his kingdom.” But Mary said to the angel: “How is this to be, since I am a virgin?” In answer the angel said to her: “Holy spirit will come upon you and power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy — the Son of God.” this verse gives us the reason of her virgin birth, as the spirit of God overshadow her,a holy seed is implanted in her,it is because of the seed that jesus is sinles and we know is is impossible for a mortal being to be sinless. THE QURAN CALLED JESUS SPIRIT AND WORD OF GOD: Surah 4:171: “Christ Jesus the son of Mary was (no more than) an apostle of God, and His Word, which he bestowed on Mary, and a Spirit proceeding from him: so believe in God and His apostles.” (Yusuf Ali) In Surah 4:171, Jesus is called, “His Word.” And in Surah 3:45 the Qur’an states that Allah gave Mary a glad tidings “of a Word from Him.” In the original Arabic, the expression used here is “kalimatim- minhu.” It means kalmia (word), min (from), hu (him). It is of vital importance for Muslims to note that Jesus is the only Prophet who ever lived, who is called a Word from God. Centuries before the Qur’an came into existence, this same title was given to Jesus in the Bible: John 1:14: “And the Word became flesh and made is dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son who came from the father, and he was full of undeserved kindness and truth. ” Revelation 19:13: “…the name by which he is called is the Word of God.” now, the quran called jesus the word and spirit of God,and the bible called him the son of God, HOW DO YOU RECONCILE THIS?. |
getgame:God covenant of prophethood cannot be on both brothers,God choses one and leave the other,both brothers cannot have the same blessing,when issac bless jacob, esau ask for his own blessing but isaac say all the blessing has been giving to jacob, moreover the verse you quote did not talk about prophethood, it talk about what has been reveal to them. |
sukkot:this guy funnny,lol. Our prophet,you run leave us,enter romance Greating bros. |
Abdulsalam20:so what you are saying is this"allah dont know the christians believe God has a son before he promiese them heaven?" can you explain this two verses bellow? Sura 5:72-73, 5:75 “They do blaspheme who say: “God is Christ the son of Mary.” They do blaspheme who say: God is one of three in a trinity: for there is no God except one God Allah. If they do not desist from their word of blasphemy, verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. Christ the son of Mary was no more than a Messenger; many were the Messengers that passed away before him.” this verse teaches that the christians blaspheme that God has a son and trinity. but another verse teaches that the same christians who blaspheme in the first verse up front are not to worried. Qur'an 2:62. Surely those who believe, and those who are Jews, and the Christians, and the Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last day and does good, they shall have their reward from their Lord, and there is no fear for them, nor shall they grieve. |
ihedinobi2:brother, God bless you for all the teaching,i salute you with heavenly hug. |
MacCantStopMe:i believe you'er an athiest, i just want to ask you some qustions, i wuld'av love to open a thread on this but i feel gulty whenever i made a coment and the atheist use it to mock God some even blasphemy the name, just emerging it when i open a thread. My qustion: 1.can temptation lead to the existence of God? 2.when you are tempted,what causes it? 3.what you hate to do,but when ever the opportunity of doing it comes to you, and you do it,what makes you do it? Dont you think there must be a force that makes you do such a things? 4.atheist dont believe in spiritualism, but you do what you hate to do,surly there must be a spiritual force, dont you think so? There are sooo many qustion i have, but this will do for the main time. Thank you. |
paxonel:believe me brother, i have even forgot hell exist until i join nairaland,i am 100% certain with my faith in christ,i pay attension more about heaven than hell,it is only a gulty man that worried the most when hell is being mentoin to him. Like i said before"the wicked flee when no man pursue him" |
bolukaz:continue praying,dont let the word of God be far from him,the time he was a christian there must be verse in the bible he love or christian hymes he like, remind him of all this. By his grace we shall prevail. |
bolukaz:please and please, dont take this lightly,this is very serious,believe me,it a matter of life and death,remind him of God power in christ, the devil want to gain him,i have seen this situation more than two times and all of them have died,there was a brother, what you post up there happen to him,after 2weeks,he could not talk nor pray niether can he remember any of us, sadly he died, what am saying is that this incident happen more than two times,bibl say he that confess his sin cover a multitude of sin,heaven rejoice when a soul is being won. Fight the devil through the power of the most high God.draw him close to God, fast for seven days and if you live close to him, visit him at night for mid night prayer, do it for seven days,focus more on prayer point. Prayer make the devil weak. I pray Almighty God with his infinite mercy will guid him and give you the strenght to wrestle his soul out of the devil hand, read jude1:9 and see how angel michael battle the body of moses without fault. "jude1:9. But even the archangel Michael, when he was disputing with the devil about the body of Moses, did not himself dare to condemn him for slander but said, "The Lord rebuke you!" REBUKE THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM YOU. |
Abdulsalam20:the quran has done sooo much harm to your spiritual knowlegd,only God can set you free from this spell,you still believe God will set a bridge between life and death , hades and enternal life? My good friend,once you enter hell,there is no second chance ,this is the grace christ jesus has giving to you, repent and be save,the story of lazarus and the rich man,abraham say,no one can cross from hell to heaven Luke 16:26 Translations King James Version (KJV) And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: SO THAT THEY WHICH WOULD PASS FROM HENCE TO YOU CANNOT; NEITHER CAN THEY PASS TO US THAT WOULD COME FROM THENCE. Allah even promies heaven to christians. Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve. Qur'an 5:69. |
podosci:the op misuse the name of God? Can you qoute where he did? What your understndind of God? |
paxonel:bible say"the wicked flee when no man pursue him" when you have faith in God,nothing i repeat NOTHING WILL SCARED YOU. |
Abdulsalam20:you are one ignorence muslims, i dont even know what to called you again,do you realy think the true God will leave his children to hell until judgment day?the hadith say ALLAH HAS FORBIDING THE MARK OF PROSTRATION TO BURN, BETWEEN MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS, WHO HAS THE MARK OF PROSTRATION? If it's an agument that jesus prostrait, you will agree that muslims are the one that prostraite, now that prostraition did not favour you, you are denying it now. |
Abdulsalam20:in the hadith,allah say he will recognise the muslims in hell throught the mark of prostraition, BETWEEN CHRISTIANS AND MUSLIMS,WHO PRORTRAIT WHILL PRAYING?SHOW ME CHRISTIAN WITH THE MARK OF PROSTRATION ON HIS HEAD. Sahih Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 12, Number 770: Narrated Abu Huraira: The people said, “O Allah’s Apostle! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?” He replied, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the full moon on a clear (not cloudy) night?” They replied, “No, O Allah’s Apostle!” He said, “Do you have any doubt in seeing the sun when there are no clouds?” They replied in the negative. He said, “You will see Allah (your Lord) in the same way. On the Day of Resurrection, people will be gathered and He will order the people to follow what they used to worship. So some of them will follow the sun, some will follow the moon, and some will follow other deities; and only this nation (Muslims) will be left with its hypocrites. Allah will come to them and say, ‘I am Your Lord.’ They will say, ‘We shall stay in this place till our Lord comes to us and when our Lord will come, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to them again and say, ‘I am your Lord.’ They will say, ‘You are our Lord.’ Allah will call them, and As-Sirat (a bridge) will be laid across Hell and I (Muhammad) shall be the first amongst the Apostles to cross it with my followers. Nobody except the Apostles will then be able to speak and they will be saying then, ‘O Allah! Save us. O Allah Save us.’ There will be hooks like the thorns of Sa’dan in Hell. Have you seen the thorns of Sa’dan?” The people said, “Yes.” He said, “These hooks will be like the thorns of Sa’dan but nobody except Allah knows their greatness in size and these will entangle the people according to their deeds; some of them will fall and stay in Hell forever; others will receive punishment (torn into small pieces) and will get out of Hell, till when Allah intends mercy on whomever He likes amongst the people of Hell, He will order the angels to take out of Hell those who worshipped none but Him alone. The angels will take them out by recognizing them from the TRACES OF PROSTRATION, for Allah has forbidden the (Hell) fire to eat away those traces. So they will come out of the Fire, it will eat away from the whole of the human body except the marks of the prostrations. At that time they will come out of the Fire as mere skeletons. The Water of Life will be poured on them and as a result they will grow like the seeds growing on the bank of flowing water…” Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0349: “They (the angels) would recognise them in the Fire by the marks of prostration, for Hell-fire will devour everything (limb) of the sons of Adam except the marks of prostration. Allah has forbidden the fire to consume the marks of prostration. They will be taken out of the Fire having been burnt…” Al-Jalalayn’s Tafsir on Surah 19:71 (“Not one of you but will pass through it: this is, with thy Lord, a Decree which must be accomplished”), gives the following clarification: “Not one” means that there will be none. “Of you” means all people. “But will pass through” means the entry into hell. “A decree which must be accomplished” means it is a certainty and a judgment from which Allah will not relent. (Translated from Arabic) Source: http://www.al-islam.com. |
Abdulsalam20:this will be my last respons to you on this thread. Nobody force you to serve God, either you worship him or passby. Surah 19:71: “It is the inevitable decree of your Lord that every one of you will be taken to HELL.” (Sarwar) “There is not one of you who shall not pass through the confines of HELL.” (Dawood) And the very next verse tells us: Surah 19:72: “Then (Thumma) We shall rescue those who kept from evil, and leave the evil-doers crouching there.” (Pickthall) “ Afterwards: (Thumma) we will deliver those who shall have been pious, but we will leave the ungodly therein on their knees.” (Sale). This is clear, muhammad is in hell, that why all muslims invoke the peace of God on him,why will i pray for peace of God on a prophet who is sopposly in the prescence of God?between me and him, who soppose to interceed for my peace? |
Abdulsalam20:The Antichrist Spirit Of Islam The religion of Islam, more than any other religion, philosophy, or belief system, fulfills the description of the antichrist spirit. The religion of Islam makes it one of its highest priorities to very specifically deny all of the above points regarding Jesus and His relationship to the Father. In fact, it can very fairly be said that Islam literally is a direct polemical response against the above essential Christian doctrines. Regarding the above points however, Muslims will be quick to argue that Islam teaches that Jesus is indeed the Messiah. But this is really just trickery. While it is true that Islam does retain the title of Messiah for Jesus, when one asks a Muslim to define what the title “Messiah” actually means in Islam, the definitions given are always hollow and fall entirely short of containing any truly messianic substance. In Islam, Jesus is merely another prophet in a very long line of prophets. Biblically speaking however, the role of the Messiah, among other things, also entails being a Divine Priestly Savior, a Deliverer and the King of the Jews. As we saw in the earlier chapters about the Muslim Jesus, rather than being a Messiah that saves or delivers Israel and all of his faithful followers in any way, in the Islamic traditions, Jesus instead returns to lead Israel’s enemies against her in battle and to kill or convert all Jews and Christians. This would be the equivalent of calling Adolph Hitler, rather than Moses, Israel’s deliverer. For now, we see that the apostle John informs us that just before the final hour, a very specific “spirit” will dominate the earth. This spirit will deny many of the essential biblical doctrines regarding who Jesus is and what He came to do. Islam epitomizes this spirit perfectly. Tawhid and Shirk In order to properly understand the antichrist spirit of Islam, there are two doctrines that must first be understood. The first is called Tawhid. It is the most essential belief in Islam. Tawhid refers to the belief in the absolute oneness of God. Islam adheres to the strictest form of unitarian monotheism possible. In Islam, God is utterly alone. But in order to understand tawhid, one must understand that it is more than just a doctrine. In Islam, belief in tawhid is an absolute commandment. And if adherance to tawhid is the highest and most important commandment in Islam, then the greatest sin is called Shirk. Shirk is the opposite of tawhid. It is in essence, idolatry. From the “Invitation to Islam” newsletter published by a Muslim group from Toronto, we read a very telling statement, which helps us to understand exactly how shirk is viewed by Muslims: Murder, rape, child molesting and genocide. These are all some of the appalling crimes which occur in our world today. Many would think that these are the worst possible offences which could be committed. But there is something which outweighs all of these crimes put together: It is the crime of shirk. 1 Thus many Muslims feel as though either believing in the trinity, or ascribing divinity to Jesus are both among the greatest sins conceivable. In fact, believing in these essential Christian doctrines is more than just a sin; it is the most heinous of all crimes! In the Muslim mind, shirk refers not only to the beliefs of polytheists, or pagans but also to the essential historical doctrines of the Christian faith. Below we will examine these three essential doctrines and how Islam specifically denies them. Islam Denies The Sonship Of Christ The religion of Islam has as one of its foundational beliefs, a direct denial of Jesus as God’s Son. This denial is found several times throughout the Quran: In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. -Surah 5:17 (Yusuf Ali) They say: "God hath begotten a son!" - Glory be to Him! He is self- sufficient! His are all things in the heavens and on earth! No warrant have ye for this! Say ye about Allah what ye know not? -Surah 10:68 (Yusuf Ali) They said, "The Most Gracious has begotten a son"! You have uttered a gross blasphemy. The heavens are about to shatter, the earth is about to tear asunder, and the mountains are about to crumble. Because they claim that the Most Gracious has begotten a son. It is not befitting the Most Gracious that He should beget a son. –Surah 19:88-92 (Rashad Khalifa) …the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! -Surah 9:30 (Yusuf Ali) The Quran literally pronounces a curse on those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son. People say such things utter “gross blasphemies” and are likened to “unbelievers” or infidels. Without question then, in this regard, Islam is an antichrist religious system. Remember Jim Hastings comments from chapter one? He was the priest in training who converted to Islam. "The thing I've always latched to is that there's one God, he doesn't have equals, he doesn't need a son to come do his work." Islam attempts to create an acceptable form of monotheistic worship yet it not only leaves out the most essential aspects of a saving relationship with God, but it also literally exists to directly confront these things and even calls them the highest forms of blasphemy. “Far be it from God that he should have a son!” These words encircle the inside of the Dome of the Rock Mosque in Jerusalem. This is the very location where for centuries God’s people; the Jews, worshipped in their Temple awaiting their Messiah. This is also where Jesus, the Son of God and the Jewish Messiah will someday rule over the earth. Islam has literally built a monument of utter defiance to this future reality. Islam Denies The Trinity The same claim of blasphemy is also applied to those who believe in the trinity: They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them. –Surah 5:73 (Yusuf Ali) Thus belief in trinity is also defined as blasphemy. But what is the “grievous penalty” that shall befall those who believe such things? Well, as we saw in previous chapters, many Muslims are ironically expecting their version of Jesus to return and actually kill these “polytheist Trinitarian Christians.” And the Quran does not stop at denying that Jesus is the Son of God or that God exists as a trinity. Islam Denies The Cross With tears in his eyes, Paul the Apostle warned the Thessalonians that, “many live as enemies of the cross of Christ.” (Thessalonians 3:18) It should not come as a surprise then that Islam also even denies the most central event of all of redemptive history: The crucifixion of Jesus. Speaking to the Jews of Jesus’ day, the Quran says: That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah"; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:- Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise – Surah 4:157-8 (Yusuf Ali) Among Islamic scholars, there are actually numerous conflicting theories regarding exactly what happened to Jesus. (For ironically, regarding this issue, it is actually they who are the ones who have “only conjecture to follow.”) But despite the inability of Muslims to arrive at any form of consensus regarding what happened to Jesus, they are very much in agreement on at least one issue: He was not crucified! This passage of the Quran makes at least this much clear. How Does The Antichrist Spirit Of Islam Affect Muslims? So we see that Islam very specifically and very deliberately denies all three of the specific doctrines that the Apostle John identifies as defining the antichrist spirit. And the Quran does not merely deny these doctrines, but actually expresses utter disdain for them, actually cursing those who believe these things, accusing them of gross blasphemy. But how do these Quranic attitudes then affect Muslims? This statement may sound strong, but in all of my years of outreach, interfaith dialogue and casual conversations with those who are not Christians, the two groups that I have personally witnessed express the strongest degree of contempt and mockery toward the gospel have been Satanists and Muslims. (Yes, believe it or not, I’ve actually had quite involved conversations with more than a few Satanists.) Now, let me be clear that I am in no way trying to liken all Muslims to Satanists in any way. I have met many wonderful and very decent Muslims who would never express any form of blatant disrespect for Christian doctrine, even if they secretly felt this way. But I am speaking very truthfully when I say that in terms of my personal experiences of witnessing assaults toward the Gospel message, only Satanists and Muslims have expressed such a high degree of venomous disgust. While there are indeed many religions and systems of belief that do not agree with the doctrines of Christianity, many which do not even believe in God, only Islam fills the role of a religion that exists to deny core Christian beliefs. And of course, following the lead of the Quran, the three doctrines that are most severely and most often attacked and mocked by Muslims are the doctrines of the trinity, the divine incarnation and the atoning sacrifice/crucifixion of Jesus. I recently saw a suggestion by a Muslim on an Internet discussion group, for a bumper sticker. It read: “Divine Insanity: God died on the cross to save his own creation from his own wrath.” One Muslim friend insists on referring to Jesus as a “god-man sandwich.” I have weathered innumerable accusations that by believing in the historic Christian God I am no different than a pagan polytheistic idol worshipper. Many times, I have been told that the doctrine of the atoning sacrifice of Jesus is as archaic and pagan as a human sacrifice to some kind of “volcano god.” I have been accused of believing in a God who is a “sadistic child abuser.” I have seen attempts to liken Jesus’ death on the cross to a suicide bombing. I have even weathered the mocking of the Christian God as a “blood-thirsty vampire.” If you are a Christian and you love God, I’m sure these statements grieve you as they grieve me, and I apologize for recalling them. I don’t relate these attacks in any way to provoke negative feelings against Muslims. Please do not come away with any such feelings! My reason for relating these examples is to acquaint you with the blatant antichrist spirit that resides within the religion of Islam and that many Muslims therefore manifest. We should not be surprised then to find that one of the descriptions of the Antichrist is that he will be very fond of uttering great blasphemies against the God of the Bible: The king will do as he pleases. He will… say unheard-of things against the God of gods. Daniel 11:36 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his saints. Daniel 7:25 The Quran itself expresses such blasphemies. As someone who is in continual dialogue with numerous Muslims from all over the world, I can testify that the blatant antichrist spirit that we saw expressed in the Quranic passages above, quite often blooms into an overt disdain and utter contempt not only for Christian beliefs but also for Christians themselves. While this is not always the case, should we really be surprised when Muslims act out against those who the Quran literally curses as idolatrous infidel blasphemers? And if we are being realistic, should we expect the future of Islam to be given to those Muslims who identify with the Quranic scorn for Christians or to those who show an amiable attitude despite the curses of their own holy book? And lastly, in regard to whether or not Islam is specifically the Antichrist system that the Bible foretells, there can be no question that this, the second largest, fastest growing religion in the world, is and has been from its inception, the quintessence of the very antichrist spirit that John the apostle warned us of. |
Abdulsalam20:you believe in christ, the disciples were first called christian, you know why? Because the people in antioch saw there behaviour is like jesus christ,now you say you believe in jesus christ,can you perform miracle like jesus did? Jesus say if you believe in me you can even do greater things than me, The Spirit of Antichrist: While we have already discussed the actual person of the Antichrist, the Bible also talks of an antichrist spirit. Apart from the one direct reference in the Bible to The Antichrist, there are four other times that the word is used in a more general sense by the Apostle John. Each time it is in reference to a particular spirit. This spirit is defined by its denial of some very specific aspects of Jesus’ nature and His relationship to God the Father. Following are the verses that describe this “antichrist” spirit: This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God. But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. 1 John 4:2-3 Who is the liar? It is the man who denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a man is the antichrist–he denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also. 1 John 2:22,23 Many deceivers, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh, have gone out into the world. Any such person is the deceiver and the antichrist. 2 John 1:7 From these verses, we learn that the antichrist is a spirit that is identified as a “liar” and a “deceiver” which specifically denies the following: 1. That Jesus is the Christ/Messiah (The savior/deliverer of Israel and the World) 2. The Father and the Son (The Trinity or that Jesus is The Son of God). 3. That Jesus has come in the flesh. (The incarnation - that God became man) |
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. You need to read the quote by Epicurus someone posted above.