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Michellekabod2:
Yes

and you are very certain that your solution to salvation is easy compare with God own ?

I believed salvation is something only God can do. the unsaved man is like a man who want to swim from river kaduna to river Niger, he can't make it on his OWN . but the SAVED man seat on a boat and allowed the boat to do ALL THE WORK.

Michelle, allowed God to do the work, salvation is something only God can do. man let alone will chose death. thank you.

Michellekabod2:
You are always welcome to quote me, no reservations because I am not a Christian.. criticism is welcomed as well...we are all here to learn

who am I to criticized ? we all have flaws , as the song writer say , what doesn't kill you make you stronger. are you really certain of your position in God ?

plaetton:
I never mentioned the word luck in my post.

God is borne out of superstition.

Energy is derived from scientifically established facts, from centuries of observation and experimentation.

Faith, from which your arguments are springing from, and scientific deductions are not in the same universe.
Your worldview and my worldview spring from 2 different universes.

that's the different between me and you. I believed energy has a source (God) . you believed energy has no source and Even its has source you are absolutely sure its not God. alright. thank you and stay alive.

Michellekabod2:
I am not a Christian,thank u

oh, I am very sorry. I quote you because of the Christian part. thank you too.

HenryDion:
At least, in this case, the man leading the dog can be seen. We can prove he exist and that he leads.

Your God on the other hand can not be proven to exist, talk of leading.

Let me assume for argument sake that a supernatural being exist, how sure are you it is Yahweh that is leading you and not Thor?

lol, am not surprise, that how you understand scripture when you are a Christian. cannot discern message.

plaetton:
Lol.
You are simply regurgitating the articles of your faith.

Well then, for the sake of this discussion, let me say we might be in partial agreement, except for the different terminologies we use.

For example, I would say that instead of your god, Energy is the only all pervading, self-existent thing in the universe that exists beyond space and time.
And that at a certain juncture there came about a micro-second spark of energy.
Thereupon, space and time were begotten, and from thenceforth, the spark of energy expanded spread forth into the vastness of the void.
Over time, the energy condensed to form matter. The rest, as they say , is history.

why is it hard to acknowledged God? I mean one tiny spark of energy bringing this super intelligent UNIVERS into existence is impossible. you say luck ? how do you reconcile luck and miracle ? I believed it is logical to believe in miracle than luck.

Genesis 1:1 in the beginning IT JUST HAPPENED.

so it is very logical for the Bible to begin like this ?

Michellekabod2:
s.... I love Jesus and despise Christians because they don't emulate him
Do you Christians reason at all?....

Jesus denounced religious hypocrites. So if hypocrisy turns stomach, you might be Christ-like yourself. but Hypocrites are people who claim to be morally better than they really are. Authentic Christians claim to be so bad that they deserve no forgiveness from God.
Making it spiritually depends not on how popular or nice we are, but how much we want God to rule our life and change us.

accusing Christians of hypocrisy has not stop you from being a devoted Christian my lady. The embarrassing thing about denouncing hypocrisy is that it is equally hypocritical to condemn those who do not follow the teachings of Christ if you do not follow the teachings of Christ yourself. And one of his
most fundamental teachings is that we should take our critical eyes off the sin of others and concentrate on our own chronic need for Jesus' forgiveness

HenryDion:
How did you come to know this being? Where you with him in the beginning? Did he appear to you?

Do you by any chance have a video or audio record of him saying, "let there be light?"

Everything you know was merely from a book, right? If that is so, then you have no argument here, and a piece of book is not evidence since we have other hundreds of spiritual self-acclaimed holy books believing in ridiculous things.

Whatever question science tries to answer is merely from observance, not from a book written by primitive middle east desert men.

You have a brain, use it!

I do not need sign to believe in God, all what I need , I've already got it, I see God in my everyday activities.

If you watch a man walking with his dog, you may think that the dog is leading the way, because the dog will be in front pulling the leash, but what happened when they reach a conner ? the man wants to turn ? the dog will still continued walking straight up, until he realized the man has turn, moment later, the dog is leading again.

The dog only appears to be leading, but is in reality
subject to the whims of the master.

plaetton:
If spirit exists, by your own simple logic, spirit should also have a source.

Whatever exists must have a source .

If want to claim here that spirit is self-existent or self - begotten, then you should also allow me to equally argue that energy would also be self-existent or self-begotten.
Now, since we know that matter is simply condensed energy, therefore we can conclude that matter , all creation, including you and I, are self-existent and self begotten.

NO GOD REQUIRED.

everything we observed today did not exist before the bang . it was something outside of time,outside of space, and outside of matter that caused all of this to come into existence.

"In the beginning, God created the heavens and the
earth...and God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light."

It came about not from matter, but from pronouncement. A SPOKEN word. "Let there be light."
ALL the matter did NOT exist before THE SPOKEN WORD.

so, it is possible that God, who is from the beginning, eternal and outside of time, created time. God who is present everywhere and cannot be confined to space, created space. God who is spiritual, non-physical and
outside of matter is the SOURCE of our universe and all that is.

uthlaw:
why would God that created human being and sins will also kill his only son to forgive the sin of the people he created, what kind of God is that, and beside if Jesus is to die for sin not the sin of Nigerians!

I would love to answer your questions, but you see, your questions is wrongly asked. were in the Bible did God killed his son ? why did Adam sin ?

plaetton:
Good evening bros.

Yeah, every living thing begets it's kind. Gods are no exception.

If whatever exists has a source, then by the same logic, if God exists, then God must also have a source.

spirit has source ? I want to learn please.

plaetton:
I'm talking about being God, not godly nature.

evening bro . its not possible you're given birth and behold you're a god, at lest there must be a Source .

plaetton:
If accept that I am a god, then why do I need a god ? All I need is me.

being god mean there is a SOURCE from were that godly nature came from.

plaetton:
lol.
I am omnipresent.
We are all gods, all of us. Are we not ?

yes we are . but don't know were you corrupted your image.

plaetton:


Should anyone be taking kingebukasblog and malvisguy212 seiously in this section ?

like play like play I summoned you and you appeared like a Ghost.

1stSonOfLucifer:
I swear.

But the responses (ie most) will be "NO, THEY WOULDN'T WANT A WORLD WHERE ATHEISTS EXIST"

hey bro, were you go hide ?

were is plaetton ?

KingEbukasBlog:
I think so. And I don't think I'd be coming back anytime soon after today because clearly, there has been no intellectual challenge offered by atheists that've ignited my interest. Its even worse, no disrespect to anyone though.

there defence is just weak. the atheists faith is stronger, they are very certain that UFO exist, in fact they even go extra mile in setting advanced technology hoping to here from the alien. Strong faith indeed.

we Will miss you bro.

KingEbukasBlog:
Thanks bro. Thank God for everything. What about you, I hope everything is fine?

everything is fine bro, felixmore is still on sabbatical leave ?

KingEbukasBlog:
Lol. I just dropped by to say hi

lol. indeed you are welcome bro. good to know you are alright.

kennygee:
To all the Christians on this thread, how many souls have you won for Christ this year?

Food for thought.

thousands

Duggedised12:
k ,is that all? Bye.

that not all, but if I am boring you with this teaching, its okay, that's the best I can do. thank you and stay alive.

tactius:
I am a born again Christian.

I believe in God the Father and Jesus Christ his Son and the Holy Spirit

I believe that Christ died for my sins.

Just correcting misconceptions

oh, I am very sorry for misunderstood you. thank you my brother.

Duggedised12:
I am not up for whatever you intend to get out of me with that question. Sha just know that God is more important and should be reverenced more than Jesus or Mohammad.

Jesus has made God known to us. the mediator between God and man. you cannot save yourself, salvation is something ONLY GOD CAN DO. And God has already DONE it in the person of his son Jesus Christ. read this thread, you will be glad you did.
https://www.nairaland.com/2914410/difference-between-religion-christianity

Duggedised12:
so you dont know believing In God alone is a religion? Stop displaying your ignorance ,it stinks. You that your life is not passing by ,show me what your presence in this world has contributed .A lot of you people dont even acknowledge God the way you reverence your Jesus and Muhammed. To think God is the Oga kpatakpata of them all.

do you believed in life after death?

Duggedised12:
I only see them out like bees on Christian threads.
Anyway i only believe God not Jesus so I guess people like us need to form our own religion too.

Cos i would love to see atheist keep the same energy,cos it seem na who dem go fit beat them dey always attack.

I am waiting for them to sue a Muslim governor for using state money to buy cows for salah. If all of dem nor loose their head

To sit on the fence is a marvelous position. From the top of the fence you can look in any direction and watch life pass you by.

Preshy561:
The oath was orchestrated by the anti Christ fundamentalist osewwa. He claimed being an atheist but he's clearly anti Christ, that's the same threat all of them possess. If he's not particularly fighting Christianity, what stops him from making the same Oath on Christian threads too? Why protect Islam and leave the other to dogs? Is that what atheist is all about?
Take freeze for instant too, all they do is to attack only Christians but never dared the terrorists religion.


Him and his ilks will ban me for this cos he hates truth.

Atheists are unserious people.

don't mind that atheist, he don't believed in God, why should ordinary oath scared him ?

tactius:
Atheists do comment on Islamic threads.

The problem is the oath you have to take before commenting on such threads which limits antagonizing comments, but they do comment there

nonsense, ordinary oath ? you don't believed in God, should oath scared you ?

Uyi168:
... How do u know a genuine man of God?.. Or God told u kumuyi was genuine?

how will you know a fake man of God ?

martineverest:
I won't criticise this man...he is one of the few I respect....at least he is preaching love irrespective of Ur religion,unlike those with numerous Universities and jets that preaches hatred

ironically and hypocritically,u will see the redeemers and living faith members coming to criticize this man.

I love your first paragraph, it's good bro. but your second paragraph is wrong my brother, you are dividing the body of Christ ( the church). I am not a Redeemer or a living faith goer. thank you, happy Sunday.

Uyi168:
The last people to expect love from are the Christians..
They don't even love themselves...

Christians are people who considered themselves such moral failures that they have come to Jesus for help and forgiveness. Making it spiritually depends not on how popular or nice we are, but how much we want God to rule our life and change us.

Jesus chose his twelve disciples and loved them unreservedly, knowing that one of his supposedly closest friends, Judas, was such a hypocrite that he would arrange Jesus' murder. The presence of the ultimate hypocrite in the midst of that inner circle
has not prevented millions of people throughout the ages from becoming devoted Christians . Moreover, the leading disciple ,Peter was also a hypocrite. He vowed he would remain true to Jesus no matter what,
and within hours he swore he didn't know Jesus. Years later the apostle Paul accused Peter to his face of further hypocrisy (Galatians 2:11-14).

Henry22:
We are no more living under the mosaic law anymore, it saddens my hrt that people don't read their bibles, all they do is what oga GO tells them.

do you know that 300 years before the mosaic law was given, Abraham tithe to Melchizedek, and 200 years later Jacob tithe to God ? .what 90% cannot solve can 10% solve ? and if 90% did actually solve it, why complain about the 10% ? it just show how your heart is completely tie up to your money and not God.

Do not lay your treasure here on earth says the Bible, humans are naturally greedy, and when you brave enough to give 10% of your hard earn money to the church or the needy. it mean your heart is not completely tie up to your money but to God, therefore you are laying your treasure in heaven. bro tithe is good but it is not the requirement to make heaven.