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manie: I think I will do well managing my investment than giving it to the so called professionals.Experience is the best teacher, I will advice to one to invest little amount of money regularly and one should read about investment, economy and network with fellow investors. |
[quote author=val_dubem]A friend of mine thinks he is not doing bad managing his investment portfolio but I advised he gets a professional to help manage it better (That's my personal view though); as I also have mine. To make a better decision, he asked I help him take it (the issue) to nairaland to read people's opinions and to pick which is best for him and for us in general.(he's a nairalander too). Now I ask, which is the wisest thing to do? Get a professional or continue managing his 'thing' in his own little understanding?[/quote]I think I will do well managing my investment than giving it to the so called professionals. |
manie: If I may ask, how did you get the 3 million Naira.You should apply what you used in making the 3 million Naira, to turn the sum to 10 million Naira in maximum of 3 years. |
etunoman76: Please I urgently need the help of any legal practitioners. I really don't know what I've gotten my self into.Do not meet your sale target, so that your employer will sack you. I think that will be a win-win situation for both of you. |
alajimeche: Good day NL,i am new to this forum,i am particularly thrilled by the way ideas are volunteered here. i am a young man of 30yrs into paid employment with little or no time to run a business, i am looking for a business or a venture where i can invest my hard earned savings for a good,safe and secured returns.please i am not interested in Forex or any online business.If I may ask, how did you get the 3 million Naira. |
henrimoto: @mania. pls. what part of epe do u say one can get a plot of land 4 250k? and what is d distance btw d area and d lekki free trade zone area?Let us say an average of 250k to 400k, but you guys need to buy acres of land as a co-operative society and then divide the land among yourselves. But as an individual you should be able to get at 500k. Plots of land can be bought at Owode, Sagamu for between 250k and 300k. Nestle plant in not far from Owode, while Honeywell Flour just got land at Sagamu interchange for the construction of a manufacturing plant. Owode is between 15 to 20 minutes drive to Sagamu. |
ololufemi: Dear SirWAMCO can be bought OTC, what is the average selling of the company's share. |
addictiv: pls ABC is a graduate from then university of Ife, now OAU.Frank Nnaji the founder of ABC Transport is a graduate of Biology/Education from University of Nigeria Nsukka. |
Bokoharam: TOP 100 MANAGERS' ORDEAL: A SHAME ON ECOBANK NIGERIA!This is a nice move by the management of Ecobank, it shows a management that is frugal, cost conscious, and have shareholders' interest at heart. The managers will also learn valuable lessons in resilience, perseverance, team building, culture, geography and West African inter-border trade. Although I do not have shares of this company, i will research into the company's fundamentals in order to take position. |
Orikinla: Plan your wedding according to your budget.What if the babe wants to impress her friends courtesy of the guy? |
Redoil: people are buying base on their last result.Such people have one or two lessons to learn on how not to invest in the stock market. What value did they see in the stock? What parameters did they use in arriving at the value? |
billyoung: I recently disposed of a valuable property and now have the above stated sum lying idle. I need advice on how best to invest this money. I am NOT interested in real estate for now. I need a moderate to high risk, high yield, short term investment. I don't need meaningless and pointless comments. I will be willing to meet with and discuss reasonable business suggestions and a handsome reward awaits whoever comes up with the best proposal. And be warned, i have the IGP on speed dial so any attempted scam will be dealt with swiftly and ferociously.I think you have have a lot to gain from this write up. http://www.punchng.com/am-business/conversation-with-a-real-estate-millionaire/ |
billyoung: I recently disposed of a valuable property and now have the above stated sum lying idle. I need advice on how best to invest this money. I am NOT interested in real estate for now. I need a moderate to high risk, high yield, short term investment. I don't need meaningless and pointless comments. I will be willing to meet with and discuss reasonable business suggestions and a handsome reward awaits whoever comes up with the best proposal. And be warned, i have the IGP on speed dial so any attempted scam will be dealt with swiftly and ferociously.Beware of guys dropping their phone numbers and e-mail addresses. Any money making venture that can not be shared on the forum is not worth going into. |
FrontPageLawyer: @OP don't get it wrong, there's no land in Ikorodu for N250. I'm a resident and have firsthand information. I live around Igbo oluwo axis, church b/stop and a plot of land there is 6-7 Million naira. Recently i bought half plot of land around Ewunren for 1.5M. The least you can get for now is between 500k and 800k and i bet it will definitely be around sagamu, Ogun state. Properties are becoming expensive in Ikorodu; the earlier the better, one cannot live in a rented apartment forever. i move in around 2008 due to economic situation and cost of rents in surulere, it took me one year to acclimatized, i was offered a plot of land for N2M and i vowed never to erect any structure in Ikorodu due to the obsolete lifestyle of the people, but now things have changed, same land i was offered was bought by another young man and recently i was informed he sold it for 4.5MGood for you, where do you work? My brother equally moved to his house in Ikorodu, only for him to pack out to rent another apartment at Ajao Estate off Airport Road Lagos. He has rented out his house to a manager at Dangote Pasta. Government needs to invest on good roads and rail system. If we have good transportation system in Nigeria, people will not mind to live in Ibadan and work in Lagos. |
billyoung: I recently disposed of a valuable property and now have the above stated sum lying idle. I need advice on how best to invest this money. I am NOT interested in real estate for now. I need a moderate to high risk, high yield, short term investment. I don't need meaningless and pointless comments. I will be willing to meet with and discuss reasonable business suggestions and a handsome reward awaits whoever comes up with the best proposal. And be warned, i have the IGP on speed dial so any attempted scam will be dealt with swiftly and ferociously.How did you get the sum ie 100 million Naira? You got it by selling a property. Are you the owner of the property, or you inherited the property. If you are the owner of the the property you sold, I will advice you to reinvest a minimum of 60% of the sum in undervalued real estate where you can get a minimum PE of 15 or below. If the property was inherited, I will advice you to invest 90% of the sum in money market instrument, and spend about 18 months learning how to make, manage and multiply money. Please do not fall for the sale pitch of the guys on this forum. |
waybaloo: wrong threadHow is this a wrong thread? |
rigormortis: all those ppl mentioned were born with a degree of silver spoon, some just silver plated spoons and others are pure silver spoon, why not mention those ppl who worked their way up by another means apart from the wildly lucky chance of being born into rich homes. dangotes son has no choice other than making "it"..........It takes some level of intelligence, discipline, hard-work, risk taking etc to turn your silver spoon to a golden spoon. |
manie: Elumelu was seconded from an issuing house/ Investment bank that packaged the recapitalisation of Crystal bank. Rasheed Ladoja was the Chairman of Crystal bank when they ran into financial crisis.Akingbola used the same strategy to take over WAPIC Insurance from the owners when Intercontinental Capital Market was the issuing house for the recapitalisation of WAPIC Insurance. |
mobuch: It was not easy to come by at that time, but it was quite easy to access and raise that fund; am sure if elumelu's and ovia's were ttrying to start a bank in our era of 25 billion capital base, they would have found it extremely difficult and impossible to raise that fund. There are still a lot of young chaps with the mindset of those guys who want to start up new banks in our era but the capital requirements is a very serious barrier.Fola Adeola and Tayo Aderinokun did not even have 1 million Naira when they started. I heard when Tayo said he and Fola used to complain about how tedious bank job was, he used to at a bar at Falomo before proceeding home somewhere on the Mainland. But when he stopped complaining and put on his thinking cap, his orientation about life and Nigeria changed. When the opportunity to own a bank came they sold their cars, took loans invited people like Prof. Oyawoye, Chief Agbaje, Gbadebo Oshibodu and other people that believed in their dreams to invest in the bank. |
Jarus: Stories of young and successful that interest me more are those that never had headstart in terms of being put there by their parents or so (e.g Paddy Adenuga, Kola Abiola, Ladi Balogun etc), but those who were just average Joes and rose to high positions at young age.You are very correct. Some people have made mega bucks since the liberalisation of the Telecomm sector in 2001. Another potential money spinning sector is the Power sector of the economy. |
manie: Fola Adeola and Tayo Aderinokun never had influential parents. Fola went to Yaba Tech, while Tayo went to UNILAG.The money needed to establish a bank during Babangida's regime was 20 Million Naira which was not easy to come by at that point in time. |
Jarus: Stories of young and successful that interest me more are those that never had headstart in terms of being put there by their parents or so (e.g Paddy Adenuga, Kola Abiola, Ladi Balogun etc), but those who were just average Joes and rose to high positions at young age.Elumelu was seconded from an issuing house/ Investment bank that packaged the recapitalisation of Crystal bank. Rasheed Ladoja was the Chairman of Crystal bank when they ran into financial crisis. When Crystal Bank was recapitalised by the issuing house, BGL made sure that her clients/workers of BGL bought bloc of shares in Crystal Bank. This bloc of shares now became the largest shareholding in Crystal Bank. Clients/workers of BGL now deemed it fit to nominate someone from BGL to lead the management team of Crystal Bank, so as to ensure proper management of their funds. Elumelu was nominated as the MD/CEO of Crystal Bank and one of the things he did was to change the name to Standard Trust Bank. Elumelu was en employee at BGL. Till today BGL and UBA still have things in common. BGL equally has substantial shareholding in UBA. But shareholders were not happy with the performance of UBA under Elumelu. His era was the time of never ending extra ordinary or exceptional expenses. The returns made by the company never trickled down to the shareholders and workers except top management. But things are getting better in UBA. |
[quote author=Jarus]Stories of young and successful that interest me more are those that never had headstart in terms of being put there by their parents or so (e.g Paddy Adenuga, Kola Abiola, Ladi Balogun etc), but those who were just average Joes and rose to high positions at young age. Look at: Atedo Peterside, founded IBTC in 1989 at 32 Fola Adeola (at 35) and Tayo Aderinokun (at 34) founded what is GTB today Herbert Wigwe and Aig-Imhoukhude, both left GTB at 34 years of age, to found Access Bank. When they left GTB, they can't be less than AGM. So AGM at 34 was an achievement on its own. Tony Elumelu was in his early 30's when he co-founded STB and became CEO. Jim Ovia was also in his 30's when he founded Zenith Bank. All these guys (except Wigwe and Aig) founded these banks 1989-1990. Before that time, we had the old school banks (Union, First, Wema, Cooperative, Savannah, UBA etc), later dubbed First Generation Bank. These guys, most of whom, were working in these banks, probably thought there were more innovative ways of providing financial services than what these conservative First Generation banks were offering. That's an opportunity. Pronto, they explored it, and coupled with IBB's liberalization policy of the era, they established the banks. A couple by the old folks (Adekanye, Osayemah, Femi Ajayi, Duro Emmanuel etc) failed, but these young guys' became mega successful. Atedo Peterside came back from LSE and realized merchant banking as was practiced in Nigeria was still crude. That's an opportunity. He floated Investment Banking and Trust Company (IBTC) in 1989, to do just one thing: investment banking. He made it. Elumelu was seconded from an issuing house/ Investment bank that packaged the recapitalisation of Crystal bank. Rasheed Ladoja was the Chairman of Crystal bank when they ran into financial crisis. When Crystal Bank was recapitalised by the issuing house, BGL made sure that her clients/workers of BGL bought bloc of shares in Crystal Bank. This bloc of shares now became the largest shareholding in Crystal Bank. Clients/workers of BGL now deemed it fit to nominate someone from BGL to lead the management team of Crystal Bank, so as to ensure proper management of their funds. Elumelu was nominated as the MD/CEO of Crystal Bank and one of the things he did was to change the name to Standard Trust Bank. |
Some informed young men are equally making good use of the opportunity available in the capital market to build wealth. Things can not be the same with these guys in the next 20 years. I am not referring to speculators but intelligent value investors. |
lacasa: Most of the names i read here had very influential parents and guardians who most likely than not facilitated their access to vibrant sectors and quick rise to the top.Fola Adeola and Tayo Aderinokun never had influential parents. Fola went to Yaba Tech, while Tayo went to UNILAG. They were prepared and made good use of the opportunity when it came. Babangida liberalised banking in the early 90s, the banks in Nigeria prior to the liberalization were FBN, UBA, UBN, Afribank, NAL, FCMB and some regional banks. Some bankers with entrepreneurial mindset made good use of the opportunity by starting their own banks even though they did not have all the money. GTB almost missed the deadline for the establishment of their bank if not for the investment made by a renowned Prof. Of Geology, Prof. Oyawoye |
Jarus: Stories of young and successful that interest me more are those that never had headstart in terms of being put there by their parents or so (e.g Paddy Adenuga, Kola Abiola, Ladi Balogun etc), but those who were just average Joes and rose to high positions at young age.Atedo equally workeed at NAL Merchant bank for some years and also rose to become a management staff at NAL before he founded IBTC through his personal savings and funds from his father. |
Jarus: Stories of young and successful that interest me more are those that never had headstart in terms of being put there by their parents or so (e.g Paddy Adenuga, Kola Abiola, Ladi Balogun etc), but those who were just average Joes and rose to high positions at young age.They left GTB to lead the management team of Access Bank, this was done by becoming the core investor in the crisis ridden Access bank. The raised the money to become the core investor through an investment vehicle called United Alliance that had people like Maduka, Oyebode, Folawiyo as investors or providers of funds |
You can only be okay with a job, the probability of being rich with a job is slim. |
Do you have a collateral that is twice the value of the sum needed, can you pay an interest of 25% per annum. Do you have a valid title to your property, it is when you have this that your property can qualify as a collateral. Better still do you have blue chip stocks that is worth a minimum of 2 million Naira. |
aduhube: With the expansion of Ikorodu road going on presently, it takes about 10 minutes to drive from Ketu to Ikorodu.What part of Ikorodu are you talking about? The part of Ikorodu where you can spend 10 minutes to Ketu are areas like Agric, Idi_Iroko, Ogolonto, Ita Elewa, Ebute, but you can not get a plot of land for 250k. Most people buy land at Ori Okuta, Odongunyan, Ogijo, Igbogbo, Ijede, Igbokuta, Imota, Isiwu etc are these places are very more than 10 minutes drive to Ikorodu Town proper. All the same this should be not discourage people from investing in real estate, but I can not say because I have a house in Ikorodu I will then relocate to that axis of Lagos. I do not see such a move as a smart one, but I can rent out the house to people who work or transact their business at Ikorodu eg Dangote Pasta, Nigerian Port Authority, Egbin Thermal Station, PZ Industries, Chikki noodles, Lagos Polytechnic, Caleb University, Pipeline Product Marketing Company, Ragolis water, Plastic companies in Ikorodu, Banks in Ikorodu etc. |
manie: I think the guy must have been hardworking or business savvy enough to have contributed 70% of the cost of the car, before I can give him the outstanding 30%. |
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