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nnomy3: pls as a young undergraduate who wants to be an investor, how do i go about it??Walk into the office of any stock broker and make the necessary inquiries. Some stock brokers accept as low as 10k in Lagos, but if you have up to 50k you can open account with some of the reputable stock broking firms. Investing early and investing regularly is the best way to build a great net-worth at retirement. Your stocks can also be used as a collateral. A bank will readily accept 1,000,000 units of FBN shares valued at less than N20 Million as a collateral over a block of 4 flats at Ketu Lagos valued at N35 Million. This is because FBN shares is more liquid and readily acceptable than the block of 4 flats at Ketu. |
Olumideta: Good job Manie, I dey feel you seriously. Do mean if someone decides to sell the share's certificate that is the amount the person will get?Which of stock are you talking about? You need to dematerialise the share certificate before you can convert them to share. Get in touch with a reputable stock broker, who will help you on how to open a CSCS account and convert the shares into cash. If I may ask you, why do you want to sell now, what do you plan to do with the proceeds from the sale. |
oseiwe: Bros,Your shares are intact, go to CSL Registrars at Tinubu St. Lagos. The registrars is located in the Head office of FCMB. |
elvis10ten: 1)PC => 48,000The money is not that substantial open an account with the nearest micro finance bank. Or you get a soft loan from your church. |
dcal001: HI manie, pls i am looking at investing in the stock market and i want to know how to go about it ie which stock broker to use amongst others. thanksI am not a stock broker, You can choose your stock broker from the over 100 stockbrokers in the country. I prefer trading with stock broking firms that are not one man business. The following stock brokers are okay, Lead Capital, Investment one etc. With 50k you can open a stock broking account. You will need 100k and 250k to open an account at Fidelity securities and UBA stock brokers respectively. If you have a million Naira you can open your account at CSL stockbrokers or BGL Securities. Meristem securities will need 2.5 million Naira, while IBTC, Afrinvest, Vetiva, FBN Securities will require 5 million Naira if you want to open a stock broking account. But I will advice to start small, invest in your youth, invest regularly, net work with fellow investors, avoid penny stocks, read investment publication, listen to business news, practice Naira cost averaging , have a long term investment plan, do not buy hot stocks. |
Peterwins: Information is power. Please let us know how you would have acquired or purchased 3 million unit shares of Nigeria Breweries in 2007 as an individual investor when the average available trade-able quantities per day on the stock exchange was less than 300,000 units in several deals hotly sought after by so many stock brokers on a daily basis.NB was selling at a discount in 2007, and most banking stocks were selling at a premium. Those who invested based in 2007 based on the intrinsic values of the stocks are better off. |
NB fluctuated between N35 and N40 in 2007, 1 million dollars was 120 million Naira in 2007. NB is one of the liquid stocks on the exchange having NB shares is as good as having cash. Over 2 million units of NB shares were sold yesterday. I used to be a margin trader when the market was good, when you want to buy units of shares running into million of units you buy the shares over a period of days taking into consideration the bid and offer for the stock. |
elvis10ten: HOWLearn how to make the best use of the assets. I think you need a mentor in your line of business, it won't be a bad idea if you decide to work for free for some time just to learn the valuable experience that money can not buy. Considering your age, no investor will invest in your venture. may be in 7 years time when you are 21 they may be ready to deal with you. |
9free: No oooooo...... I want them to present the worst results so that by this time next year I will confidently become a board member of one of these financial behemoths.By mopping up the shares at cheap prices. Bad guy.... |
elvis10ten: am 14+ you can confirm that on www.techmoran.com . I have a junior waec cert only.You have the best asset, that is your age and your intellect make good use of these assets. |
@ Seun can we learn from you, what do you have to tell elvis? |
manie: How old are you? What is your highest educational qualification?@ elvis you have not answered this question. |
elvis10ten: @ sir manie i will love that. If u want to send it to my email fine, but i will like it here so others who come to this thread can learn.I will give the advice on this thread, i don't give my e-mail address to strangers. |
elvis10ten: THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE IF I HAD FINISHED SECONDARY SCHOOL AND OLDER THAN 15 years.How old are you? What is your highest educational qualification? |
AjanleKoko: What kind of mobile phone do you use?Do you subscribe to DSTV, how much do you spent charging your phone, what about the money spent on complete football, how often do you go to the club, can you do the 15minutes trek instead of spending N100.00 on Okada. If you are frugal you will get the seed capital. And also remember to get close to your God, he will not disappoint you. The guy advising you graduated with a 3rd class degree from UNILAG in 1997 but I thank God for what I have done with myself. |
elvis10ten: How i wish i had what to sell to get the money i need.What about getting a job, and saving enough money to start your dream venture. |
@ Ajanlekoko what do you have to say to these young start entrepreneurs? |
elvis10ten: WHY DRAW THIS MATTER FOR SO LONG, YOU HAVE ALREADY SAID THIS => in https://www.nairaland.com/1227635/what-make-angel-invest-internet so you are not interested in investing in a start-up. From that word u said, u feel start-up aren't worth it, but don't forget google was once a start-up. According to that essay, all u need is seed capital in order to get the prototype up and running, then you show investor to invest in it, there was "NO STRUCTURE OR ANY RELATED BUSINESS THING THERE".I can only sow my sincere advice for free. I will not charge consultation fee. |
janykute: Maine,Very good analysis.But why are you not including the Dividends paid or is that not part of the investments?Dividend is part of the returns on our investment. If dividend is considered, you will find out that if we look at investment in stock and real estate over a period of 10 years or more, returns will from stocks will beat that from real estate. The best return you can get from 100k invested in 2001 in a government land scheme is 4 million Naira or less, if you invest the 100k in Abijo Ajah axis of Lagos is buying from Omo Onile, the land may be worth 6 million naira but you will still need 4 million Naira to ratify ownership to the land from Lagos State government. You would have spent another 200k to 400k for the land survey. This investment does not generate any cash flow, except capital appreciation. Unlike the 100k invested in stock in 2001, that will be worth 3 million to 8 million in 2013. The investment would have generated a dividend of 300k to 700k over the years. You do not have to pay extra money for survey, ratification, change of ownership, Omo onile etc. If the 300k to 700k dividend received over the years was reinvested, only God knows what the value of the investment will be. NB: Both stocks and real estate are good asset classes. But one should not over pay for any investment. Shrewd investors make money when they buy an investment, the money made when they sell an investment is just an extra income. |
pappilo: Fantastic thread Mannie FreshNot according to my calculation, you can go to First Registrars they are the registrars to Nigerian Breweries. The capitalisation history of NB can be gotten from them. |
manie: What is the current value and rental income from the luxurious apartments sold by IBTC for 1 million dollars per flat in 2007?Investment lesson number 1, do not over pay for any investment. Be it real estate, stock or business. There are houses selling for 60 million Naira in lagos, that can bearly generate a rental income of N2 million. That 1 million dollars would have bought 3 million units of Nigerian Breweries in 2007. The investment would have given a dividend of over 30 million Naira over the last 4 years. And the 3 million units of Nigerian Breweries shares will be worth almost 500 million Naira on March 25th 2013. |
manie: What is the current value and rental income from the luxurious apartments sold by IBTC for 1 million dollars per flat in 2007?I am not sure if this investment gives more than 50k dollars as rental income. |
manie: Have you considered the effect of inflation on the the bond. I will not advice a young man to have more than 20% of his asset in bond, his assets and income should be invested in developing himself, buying good stocks and real estate. He should have a long term view when making his investment decisions over a period of 10 years or more investments in stocks or real estate will out perform investment in bond or treasury bill.100k invested in a bond at the rate of 15% will be worth 615k in December 2013. A return of 15% is on the high side for most bond, compare this to a value of between 2 million to 8 million if the money was invested in real estate or stocks. If the investor had reinvested his dividends from 2001 to date you can imagine what the value of the investment will be in 2013. |
AjanleKoko: I think young people with disposable income should look at passive investment to start with. He should also visit the investment section of Nairaland, and visit sites like stockmarketnigeria.com and Proshare. |
AjanleKoko: I think young people with disposable income should look at passive investment to start with. |
AjanleKoko: This is a very good thread, manie.Thanks, my bro. Please other stock gurus should contribute to this thread. |
Adetola: @soldierAntShrewd investors usually have multiple streams of income. Multiple streams of income from different asset classes gives patience, peace of mind and focus to the investor, these are attributes that anybody who wants to build a substantial net-worth requires. |
manie: People are talking about the stock market meltdown, forgetting that majority of the players in the high end property market are also big time investors in the stock market.What is the current value and rental income from the luxurious apartments sold by IBTC for 1 million dollars per flat in 2007? |
maskara01: Hello all, |
People are talking about the stock market meltdown, forgetting that majority of the players in the high end property market are also big time investors in the stock market. The stock market melt down affected prices of houses in the high end market. We observed up to 40% fall in the prices of land and house at Ikoyi, Lekki, Banana Island, Ikeja GRA etc, a number of the luxury apartment are also vacant for close to 4 years. Property Investors in the listed locations are also settling for lower rent. But rents and prices of houses in the mid end market are enjoying a steady rise. |
fuckluv: Good advice all through. I would recommend land purchase and also invest in transport buses and get it insured.Transport what? I think one can succeed in this business if you are a retired area boy. |
manie: This is the performance of First Bank from 2000 to date.Stocks in the banking sector are currently selling at a discount, the most expensive banking stock on the exchange ie GTB does not have a PE of 8. When stocks in the banking sector are appropriately priced, 195,000 units of FBN that is currently valued at 3.8 million Naira, may be worth over 5 million Naira. |
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