₦airaland Forum

kolaaderin:

cyberguy72: :
The Useless Senators Should also Probe Aregbe Rascal,Oshio-worwor and all other thieving APC Governors Nonesense

Can't u read, its stated that all states benefited from bail out would be probed. The objective of the bail out is to pay salary and nothing else, and the FG reserve the right to probe how it was used and its even parts of term and conditions as signed by the various governors involved.

How can you ask if he can read? That is a forgone conclusion

ymee:
u? hmmmm

....and proud to say it loud and clear

[size=48pt]MEEEEEEE TTTTTOOOOOOOOOOOOO[/size]

Icecomrade:
Let me start by making this categorically clear.
I don't evade people raising questions that challenges my intellect, rather I love to engage people who are debate on issues and not raising insults.

I don't also engage Buhari fanatics who does not see anything wrong in what ever decision and action coming out of Buhari.

Its a a clear waste of time and energy, so I leave that to teenagers on nairaland.

Back to subject issue,

His questions were not relevant to my comment, probably his fanaticism did not allow him to see through the lines.

My comments were not based on whether a government should be borrow money or not.
Almost every government borrows money at one time of the other

But my issues are the timeliness, the reason for borrowing and the necessity of borrowing within the time.

Have you ever bothered to ask how much of the looted funds the government have recovered?
I will be glad if you can give me a figure, from that point we shall them put my criticism into context

cc: mapet

Icecomrade:

Buhari want to borrow money to fund 2016 budget in October 2016. The same Buhari wants to borrow money to fund 2017 budget.
BUHARI wants to use looted fund to fund 2017 budget.

The damage you do to Nigeria economy in 4yrs will take 12 years to recover.

Confused Tyrant.

So I put your piece here to give a proper perspective.
1. It is either you're trying to be cheeky, in denial or clearly not articulate to convey the thrust of your exceptions. Your clearing hitting many fronts and not specific, yet you sa
2. So let's even address issues you raised, either in isolation or all of it. First off, you alleged that Buhari wants to borrow to fund the 2016 budget in October. That is falsehood. From day one that the budget was proposed, the government has said that the deficit will be financed by both internal and external borrowings. I dare ask, was that not clear to you as at then and only became apparent in October? Or did you not know that when the proposed budget outweighs our projected income, the deficit will have to be financed?
3. You talk about timing of borrowing? I wonder what is wrong with borrowing at the time to get ourselves out of recession. We obviously have little or no option. If the previous government had not depleted the reserves with no credible explanation, will we not have a source to cussion the effect of recession and sharp oil price drop?
4. But much more importantly, how do you expect the government to recover the economy with the current state marked by delapidated infrastructures, abandoned projects, contractors owed in excess of three years, worsening power situation, embarrassing security capabilities, huge capital flight and many more? Do you think economy magically recovers in this quagmire if something drastic and radical is not done?
5. If your issues are the underline, then you have simple raised questions that are not intellectually stimulating, short of asking questions that the answers are already in the public domain. Even the FG stated in the request the quoted reason

“Considering the huge infrastructure deficit currently being experienced in the country and the enormous financial resources required to fill the gap in the face of dwindling resources and the inability of our annual budgetary provisions to bridge the infrastructure deficit, it has become necessary to resort to prudent external borrowing to bridge the financing gap,”
Read more at http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/news/general/buhari-seeks-approval-for-29-9bn-foreign-loan/168648.html#DKszRD4J7HMxPrGa.99

6. How much of the looted funds the government have recovered? What a question? Where were you when the FG officially published the figure through the office of the Minister of information? http://punchng.com/recovered-n78bn-loot-cant-revive-economy-lai-mohammed/. Besides you need to put into context the recovered looted funds. It is a process, it has to go through approval at the Senate before a kobo can be spent, which is even preceeded by the completion of court cases regarding the said funds. Simple submission.....you cannot plan on uncertainty
7. So my submission to you referring to Buhari as a confused tyrant, is that your ignorance on this issues are so apparent and it is an irony that you do not see

VampireeM:
I am not in support of the shiites actions because they have been constituting nuisance of recent but one of the police roles is to protect lives and not kill! Inspector Idris there is no tangible or moral justification for the police to start shooting people dead claiming they were armed to the teeth cause most of the victims were not armed at all! What happened to using tasers and shooting on the leg?? Nigerian police needs to undergo training by their foreign counterparts.

Madam,

Standard rules of engagement anywhere in the world - Once you use ammunition (Guns, Boy and Arrows etc) during riot, then the law enforcement reclassifies you as armed and they are legally permitted to quell such resistance with weapons i.e. kill those people. Even in UN peace keeping missions, once a civilian bear arms, he's reclassified as a militant, terrorist or opposition

Seenyo:
I've long given up on this dude! Can't wait for 2019!

Bros,

Nothing special will happen in 2019. If you bring someone who's not good enough, PMB will sail to second term. You better go and do your homework well

holatin:

Icecomrade: :


The only thing your brain is configured to process is to make reference to GEJ when your confused Tyrant make irrational directionless decisions.

I just wasted part of my energy to respond to u.

Don't quote me again until you are re-set to default.

y nt reply those 3 question but wait you dnt know cus u are extremely stupid and blinded by hate filled comment u read online.
Naw get da f#ck out of my mention

Not so fast.... he shouldn't fvck off yet. I also need him to answer the question......

You know many people when found out, attempt to "smartly" evade questions that challenge their intellect and they have no answers.....

@Icecomrade, over to you, pls do us a favor and at least attempt the follow questions

1. Why nt tell us what d money should be use for instead.
2. How much is oil price in gej regime ?
3. How much did yar adua leave in our treasury ?
4. And how much was left by GEJ ?

richidinho:
TSA is jst the inflow that passed through the system, even salaries are been paid from the account, but the govt misinformed the general public

How did the government misinform the public on TSA? Unfortunately many Nigerians are crude in their reasoning and sees TSA as an untouchable saving account.

eleojo23:
So we have money to fund 2017 budget deficit but we are borrowing to fund 2016 budget deficit.
I don't understand.

Because the money cannot be spent until it has gone through appropriation process at the Senate, which takes a while

Bolustic:

Beehshorp: :

Yet , I wouldn't accept #10milla to live dere or pick a wife from the north

So how does that affect the price of dollar?

How does it stop the underpass from completion?

Tell me.

Or who tells him he is deserving of living in Kano or deserving a Kano women in all realistic sense. Some people are just weirdly opinionated and overate themselves

ymee:
just like me Virgin till that night

Me too

SamuelAnyawu:
Buratai Should make sure he sells off some of his properties in Dubai to build a "5 Star Military Hospital" in Nigeria

And that can be more money for Burutai, cos We're at war and about 4-5 neighboring countries

herzern1:

Burutai......Please pick up ammunition and qo face Boko-Haram.....

At least......Yhu should be the highest paid military man.......

And who plans the strategy?

You think soldiers just "pick up ammunition and qo face Boko-Haram"

Trybes:
If you see her as somebody not up to your standard then work on her to transform her otherwise you failed too. You think everybody got interest in politics? Absolutely no.

If she minces words during a conversation with you or your friends it's your duty to correct and shield her if really you have some quantity of love for her.

It's a pity you allow your friends mock your girl in your own eyes. Bro, she is not the mumu, later you will know who is/was actually the mumu.

In addition, I hope you will not regret it when someone else picks her up and polishes her. Then she becomes one of the most successful women in the country....... You don't wanna go "that should have been the woman I should have married".

Meanwhile sure your friends are not overated as well.......

Luckygurl:
I think the ball is now in your court, to transform her into someone you'd like her to be.

Get her books as gifts, coerce her into channelling those time spent watching telemundo and zee world to some other educative channel, engage her in intellectual discussion. Do not give up even if her replies ain't encouraging. Let her know why you're doing such and also how you expect her to flow along.
Do all these in love and don't go about insulting her cos that will make her detest you. Those your so called friends should be mindful if what they say too.

Whichever way, it's a gradual process and if she actually loves you the way you claim, she'll make an attempt to step up her games.

In addition to this, OP, your problem is about the least you can have with a woman. If she's got good behaviour, respect, fear of God and really loves you, then you have little or no problem.

Just like lucky girl said up here, start a journey of teaching her. Truth may be nobody has positively influenced her and this is your chance to do it. Trust me, you need a prayerful woman, who will take care of you and your children much more than one who will be "public certified".

She loves Telemundo? that is a good place to start.

She so much loves telemundo and zee world, the only concise narration she can give is the breakdown of an episode of zee world

I see from you write-up that she has a quality which many of us don't have, that is attention to detail. Turn that into strenght. For example she may turn out to be a fantastic writer of books or films of that genre. She may enroll in a film school (WAP in Oshodi, if you live in Lagos). Get her to start a blog. She may be involved in travels, and write stories about

Finally, if this is the lady you want to spend the rest of your life with, the shield and protect her from the "fangs" of your "friends". This is your life at stake and not your friends' endorsement

cekhoe:
you spoke like a matured man, at least you get me, and also know that there still good women out there, some small boys come to this forum to genarailze and escape from their emasculated life, back to your number two point, I pointed out in one of my comments that I have not problem in assisting ones partner, but if it has to do with a business or involves large cash, it's should be done legally,most of this cases don't come out because the lady wants to protect the ego of her man, and if he doesn't hurt her, it remains unmentioned, that's just the fact

You are absolutely correct in this regard. If it is business and you're not married. Make it legal. I heard the story of a lady that dealt with a business-partner (suspect boyfriend) that had been cheating her in business deals in a jointly-owned (50-50) company. The lady got frustrated one day and went to clear the joint account they shared.... it took serious begging to reset the guy. If not that the lady "woke up"......

I know the extent guys are who are up to no good can go to. I know the story of a bank marketer-premium customer thingy that ended up in relationship, then marriage (the banker guy probably in his late 20s, the premium customer in her mid 40s). After a child came between them, the banker guy went AWOL one day, with huge sums of money........I told myself the guy had it all worked out from day 1.

Even in my office, a lift operator once walked up to "toast" my female colleague (a single lady, nice car, ....). When my colleague reported the "travesty" to me, she was surprised at my answer........ that the guy simply expressed his feelings and anybody can toast anybody, the choice is yours to decline or otherwise"; but I knew deep down the guy was gunning to be a gigolo

Chukazu:
don't argue base on sentiments and emotions.
where were you when shareholders of same banks sued CBN for destroying their investment? so the banks that are crawling now, don't we still have shareholders in them?
if what SANUSI did was right, how come the banks 50% are on their knees?
so for your mind, Bank of the North or Unity bank was better managed and solvent than Oceanic and Intercontinental bank?.. how come he didn't touch Northern owned banks?

can you compare the "pure water and recharge cards selling banks of Soludo era, which he turned around with healthy banks with probably poor cooperate governance which Sanusi destroyed?
Soludo came, saw and built but Sanusi came saw and destroyed

Bros,

I think we should drop the arguement.....this is tending towards ethnic connotations. If you are not gonna be fact based, then am out

cekhoe:
it's not about being selfish, I am speaking from experiences of people, it usually doesn't end well, it will create an unconscious illusion in the guy's mind and the fact is if a guy truely likes a woman, he cannot avoid spending on her, I support rendering financial support, but if it is a business deal, then it must be done legally, I have seen ladies get dumped after pumping money for a guy, that is the main reason why ladies are afraid to give their bodies and money at the same time, cos if the relationship hits the rocks, it will be a collosal loss

1. Don't get me wrong. I agree with you a lot.
2. It is very dangerous for a lady to fork out money for a guy you're not sure is committed. It is also relatively easier to know a gold digger when you're dating one, the problem is that infatuation makes us to live in denial. Meanwhile beyond a certain point, couples will then learn to share (risky still, but that is more like giving to the relationship.
3. Some ladies are so disciplined and pragmatic that they won't even take your money. I had a fight with my girl-friend (now wifey), when she kept saying I am not her father but her boy-friend, so I shouldn't be giving her money. I almost went bunkers one day
4. Some guys are also irredeemably stingy.......

Chukazu:
the problem is not what SLS discovered but the problem was the manner he went about solving it.
what he should have done is, ask the shareholders of the bank to inject money by "right issue" and that doesn't stop him from removing the CEOs.
those were not as bad as when Soludo came on but he managed to turn them to Mega banks over nite

1. You can't be serious.....ask Shareholders to inject more funds into banks where their initial funds was mismanaged? I think you need to go back and listen to cases of people who developed health issues when their funds were trapped in failed banks. Sanusi went about it the way Y'Ardua sanctioned.
2. Soludo was not totally sincere. Soludo was asked at the FEC meeting about the health of the banks and he surreptitiously affirmed they were in good state when they were not. Yes, his policies turned some of the banks into Mega banks, but also he needed to be forthright and tell us that only 5 banks were healthy

cekhoe:
I have seen women who spend on guys,just that it is not well established cos the ladies don't even want it to get out to keep theor man's ego and most ladies are reluctant on spending on guys cos most times it ends badly

What do I know......but the bolded is right a lot of times, especially the predator guys of nowadays........but some babes too selfish

lestat:
HEY EVERYONE CHECK THIS OUT....AWWWWW AINT THAT SWEET, A CAR FOR BAE? AWWWWW... SAYS THE GUY WHO DOESNT EVEN HAVE A BICYCLE TO HIMSELF. DUDE CANT EVEN AFFORD TO BUY HIMSELF OKIN BISCUIT!!! INFACT DUDE IS SO BROKE HE GOES TO MR BIGGS AND KFC TO LICK PEOPLES FINGERS

https://i.imgur.com/MOnkO0f.gif

Na yabis dem take born some of una

Smellymouth:

JeffreyJamez: :
Because of Benz. He's now "God-fearing"? undecided

Walahi, you took the words outta my mouth..

So if I buy private jet for my babe wetin her friends go say I be? Bishop, General Overseer, Spiritual leader?

Sir JeffreyJamez,

you wookeeeeddddd ooooo!!!!!!

bejeria101:
All this na stories,dats what they want u to belive,even access was hijacked frm the original owners.my uncke was a facilitator to access bank coming up,there is no story that sls wld say that wld move me.

I'm ok with you taking your "preferred position", but let's keep to facts. Fact is that Y'Ardua gave SLS an assignment to assess the "health" of the banks, and he discovered that those banks in question were very sick. That was not SLS doing, the banks did themselves in. The greed was on their part

chocolateme:
It is not by pre-wedding pictures..
After the reggae shey na blues..




FTC
CHOCOLATE CREAM

Chigold101:
bros it seems you are a christian.
Take a little time to ask yourself... If he really stole money, was he ever convicted?

Sanusi killed Oceanic Bank & Intercontinental Bank cos they were sponsoring the gospel.

These two banks were giving money to young ministeries to kick their mission work all over Nigeria. It was a soft loan.

Access Bank had nothing but they took over Intercontinental Bank. Bros what is Wema, Union & Unity bank still doing in our streets?

There are many things lay people dont know. Sanusi used the media to destroy Akingbola & Ibru.

Akingbola is the owner of inspirational fm Lagos. Akingbola is the one the sponsors “the word for today“ devotional manual & it is free all over Africa. He is a promoter of the message of our LORD JESUS CHRIST.

God will vindicate him.
Just watch.

Bros,

If you are a Christian, then be reminded of the commandment - "You should not bear false witness". Your position that those banks were "taken" because they were spreading the gospel is a lie from the pit of hell. It is better you state this as your uninformed opinion, than to say things that are factually incorrect and misrepresentation.

Segun Adeniyi's book - "Power, Politics and Death" dedicated a whole Chapter to the story. Besides, didn't Cecilia Ibru plead guilty in one of the cases? https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/news/36020/1/cecilia-ibru-pleads-guilty-convicted-sentenced-for.html
was that part of "spread of the gospel"?

bejeria101:
Kindly use your brain,sanusi took away d bank frm the owners under nasty circumstances for his own greed,intercontinental gave access bank plc 25b naira to start up as a bank how does access takeover intercontinental? With what money?

Ok, let's not get too emotional and start spewing falsehood

1. SLS sacked those MDs and took those banks because they were culpable and mostly guilty
2. They had misstated their balance sheets and declared false records
3. They used shareholders's funds to purse other private businesses

But on the other side

There is a version that AIG was the back-stabber that SLS used to implicate Akingbola................that Akingbola made AIG, unfortunately AIG back-stabbed him

Chigold101:
how Akingbola come take become thief?

Intercontinantal Bank was richer & had more assets when Access Bank acquired it. It is known fact that Sanusi wanted to sell the bank to some Arabs.
It was when the out cry was high that he now sold it to his long time friend AIG.

Nobody has been able to me how Access Bank was able to acquire a more richer & more stable Intercontinantal bank.

We all know why OCEANIC BANK & INTERCONTINANTAL BANK was sold while Unity Bank is still allowed to operate when they are so poor.

Union Bank & Wema Bank with dwindled assets are still operational while Oceaninc & Intercontinal whose assets doubled theirs was sold.

God dey sha.

I just pray He helps Akingbola

Back in B'skull in 08/09 when we reviewed the banking sector, I was shocked when we were informed that Unity Bank had no published financials for the past 7years.

OKorowanta:
Which money?
Customers money nor miss.
Forget Sanusi wey take advantage to nail the man wen he turn CBN Governor bicos of their sour relationship.

I heard that side of the story too....and from a trusted source. My take is that, SLS could have exploited the situation........but bankers during those days were way too carefree and did what they liked at the expense of shareholders

Bolustic:
Erastus would not recover Intercontinenetal Bank, not while the duo of Saraki and Emir of Kano are alive. More so, the judiciary would be more careful not to incur the wrath of the EFCC.

1. SLS has no hold on CBN anymore, so there's nothing he can do. What has Saraki got to do with Intercontinental Bank or Akingbola........Even Saraki's "hand-cuffs" are awaiting him as he plundered Shareholders funds in their family bank
2. Some of these cases are won on technicalities. If Jim Nwobodo could recover "Savannah Bank" now "Heritage Bank" after a decade+, then Akingbola stands a chance
3. I think CBN could have overlooked some of the complicated aspects of agreements while they allowed the Access Bank deal to go through

Aikon:
hmm
1st law of power: NEVER OUTSHINE THE MASTER

Worrrrrrrrrrrdddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!

Back in my early days, I had once been burned and became wiser. Choi!!! My oga back then dealt with me....... I was saved by my talent and hardwork, when God used our director, who identified me as talented and put me in a newly formed department.

In this department, I had become wiser, played my cards pretty well, helped my new boss alot........he got reward while I was on the blind side, but I didn't mind, as I was enjoying my work and building my arsenal.

Today is another story........I think I do a piece on this some time

divide9ja:
Only Igbo people are corrupt abi?

Audu in Kogi was known to have stolen N11 Billion and yet he was APC flag bearer

https://i.imgur.com/dJOLNYD.png?2
http://dailypost.ng/2015/10/04/kogi-guber-audu-will-return-the-n11bn-he-stole-if-elected-apc-chairman/

You conveniently for got to add this piece, I will imagine....

"The Kogi State Chairman, All Progressives Congress (APC), Alhaji Hadi Ametuo has refuted reports that he appealed to Kogi State citizens to elect his party’s gubernatorial candidate, Prince Abubakar Audu, to enable him (Audu) return to the state, the N11 billion allegedly embezzled by the former governor while in office............

Ametuo, who was said to have made the appeal while addressing newsmen after the Eid el-Kabir 2015 prayers, described the report as the desperation of the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP), adding that the cheap propaganda has exposed their weakness.


Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/10/kogi-gov-i-never-said-audu-ll-return-alleged-11bn-loot-if-voted-apc-chairman/........"

Blue3k:
Ps. I've also been to[size=30pt] London, Paris, Toronto, New York, Orlando[/size], Abuja, etc. What does lagos mean to me. It's not that special just because you got a trains now.

Really?