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UceeGod:Keep quiet my friend, is it not the same god? |
... Continued from the aforementioned verses, it's clear that both gods are alike, both apologists know that and wouldn't call each other out because condemning your opponent means you are condemning yourself. Hence the keep silent and focus on other things during their debates. Such verses were probably justifications and incitement of wars fought by christians many years ago. The fact that christians are now peaceful doesn't change what's written in holy books. You can also see that Yahweh is immoral and a monster by considering his cruel pettiness towards Job ( Book of Job ); how he killed a man for trying to support the falling ark ( 2 Sam. 6: 6- 7 ); how he condoned slavery both in the old and new testament; how he ordered cities including children to be killed etc. Do you know that in Deut. 22: 28- 29, Yahweh ordered rape victims to marry their rape victims? ![]() 3) MUHAMMAD EXISTED BUT JESUS DIDN'T : this is a solid fact. If Jesus never existed on earth, then christianity is false. Though the existence of Muhammad doesn't prove that he is a divine but since the christian apologist would like to think that the mere existence of Jesus proves the "truths" of christianity then the muslim apologists will have the freedom to do the same. If the christian demands any proof, the muslim apologist will demand similar proof. They both have no proof except that the muslim apologist has the historical evidence of Muhammad hence the upper hand for him. The quran believes Jesus was a prophet and since a slight proof(that of Muhammad) is on the Muslim's side, his description of Jesus as a prophet should (as he thinks) take the upper hand. Besides, why would a messiah and saviour walk the earth and leave no evidence? Sounds absurd. ![]() ... to be continued. I will fill up the space, I need to rest. |
ABCthings:Judaism? Isn't it the same god? ![]() Besides, the trinity makes no sense and is still a loophole. |
In a debate between a good muslim scholar/apologist who knows the bible and a good christian scholar/apologist who knows the quran, one always come out on top much to my chagrin . I would have thought that in a Christianity vs. Islam debate, the christian apologist/scholar would have an easy time blowing that muslim scholar/apologist away but the reverse is USUALLY the case. I asked how but as I observed further, it occurred to me that there were specific argumentation fortresses the muslim scholars/apologists kept using to unfailing come out on top. Here are these fortresses :1) THE IDEA OF THE TRINITY Though both gods(Allah and Yahweh) don't make sense but the idea of Allah makes more sense than the trinity and Jesus' death. The muslim apologists love to use this loophole. Why would god need to kill himself before he can forgive sins? Why doesn't he just forgive right away since he is the one doing the forgiving? Isn't he god? If Jesus is god, how can a god die(on the cross) ? Isn't that blasphemy? So Yahweh can die? The more the muslim apologist asks the more speechless the christian scholar becomes. Even when the christian scholar tries to give sense to the trinity, his arguments are always self-defeating. The muslim god comes out on top in this aspect since he wasn't petty in forgiving sins and he never died .2) BOTH GODS ARE ALIKE : many christian sheeples would expect that the atrocities of Allah and his commandments that incite muslims to acts of violence and terrorism would be exploited by the christian apologist to floor the muslim apologist but it never happens. I always wondered why until I studied the bible. It turns out that both apologists know that their gods are alike and both deities are guilty of the same atrocities so the christian apologist can't call out the muslim god. Here are few examples of immorality of Yahweh : (A) Deuteronomy 17: 2-5 : "if there is found among you, within any of your gates which the Lord your God gives you, a man or a woman who has been wicked in the sight of the Lord your God, in transgressing His covenant, who has gone & served other gods and worshiped them, either the sun or moon or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded, "and its told to you, and you hear of it, then you shall inquire diligently. If it is true and certain that such an abomination has been committed in Israel, then you shall bring out to your gates that man or woman who has committed that wicked thing and shall stone to death that man or woman with stones." Here we see the same intolerance towards unbelievers and the demand for their deaths by Yahweh. This is religious intolerance which is an abuse on human right. It involves the demonisation of other religious practices by branding it "a wicked thing." Imagine if Allah had said this, well he has done something similar . The christian scholar knows this and won't call out the intolerance and terror of the muslim god towards unbelievers because he knows that his god is equally guilty so both apologists remain silent on this issue leaving the christian apologist without that strong ground. Here is another example :(B) Deuteronomy 17: 12 : "now the man who acts presumptuously and will not heed the priest who stands to minister there before the Lord your God, or the judge, that man shall die. So you shall put away the evil from Israel". Here, if you don't behave properly in front of a priest, God thinks it's right to kill you. (C) Deuteronomy 13: 6- 10 : "if your brother, the son of your mother, YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER, the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own soul, secretly entices you, saying, 'let us go & serve other gods,' which you have not known, neither you nor your fathers, of the gods of the people which are all around you, near to you or far off from you, from one end of the earth to the other end of the earth, "you shall not consent to him or listen to him, nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him but you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first against him to put him to death, and afterwards the hands of all the people. You shall stone him with stones until he dies because... " Another religious intolerance and violence by Yahweh towards unbelievers by Yahweh. Note that it doesn't matter if it's your family or friend, you are commanded to kill them. Why? Because they served a different god and suggested you follow along. Imagine if Allah commanded this and muslims did it, they actually do it and Allah commanded it. ![]() (D) Deuteronomy 13: 12- 15 : "if you hear someone in one of your cities, which you dwell in, saying, 'corrupt men have gone out from among you and enticed the habitants of the city saying,' let's go & serve other gods" -- which you have not known, then you shall inquire, search out, and ask diligently. If it is indeed true and certain that such abomination was committed among you, [b] you shall surely strike the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, utterly destroying it, all that is in it and it's livestock --- with the edge of the sword. " Here, we can see a similarity between Yahweh and Allah. It's alright when you evangelise and convert others but it's wrong for others when they do so for other religions. Infact, you are to kill an entire city if people in your religion are being enticed by their religion. What a good god. ... to be continued. Hahn, CAPSLOCKED, HopefulLandlord, JujuSugar, IAmSabrina, jesusjnr, Michellekabod1 or Michellekabod1, GreatResearcher, LordReed, johnydon22, dalaman, ranchhoddas, HellVictorinho |
Misplacing the keys. ![]() |
I have heard of this stuff. |
Tamarapetty:As in. ![]() |
Are you studying medicine? Is your first class degree giving you a good job? Are you doing very well in your class? Congratulations, a lot of people envy you and are jealous of you. Secretly, your downfall or struggle delights them a little even though on the outside they may sympathise with you. It all boils down to the basic human nature, a nature that wants others to be doing well and better but not better than you. People feel bad when they get a D but brighten up when their friends/mates get D's or lower grades. If the person's friends had gotten A's, the sadness would have worsened. ![]() It is always true that people envy very brilliant and intelligent students and the envy is pronounced if it clear that they are certainly going to immensely benefit from it financially in the future. Many people hate and degrade the good things they can't have so as to feel better. Many 3rd class wish that they got a First class but they console themselves by thinking and saying "even the guys that had first class in my set hasn't gotten a job for years, who book epp?", "you don't need school to make it?" (this is true but it's still an effort to downplay the achievement of the bright student). Internal disaster, discomfort and envy starts when they receive the news "Bankole, who got a first class in your set, has landed a 150k job per month", a bitterness and envy then preceed the "I am happy for him" lie .If you are medical student, the academic "losers" or "unfortunates" would take pleasure and comfort in hammering the idea that doctors are not well paid in Nigeria or that medicine is overrated. They get so caught up in discussing doctors' salaries and feel better when they hear an amount that isn't worth much to them. SMH. If everything fails, they try to attack the professionals and label them "arrogant", "proud" etc. Just tell them that doctors are really suffering and are paid peanuts and they would feel better. In fact, as a medical student, you wouldn't know all those that would be happy to hear that you've failed medical school. You induction would pepper them and travelling and succeeding abroad would shatter them. ![]() So please, be more careful when you are doing well academically. I am not saying all are like. We all have this nature but the good ones among us don't let it rule them. |
It's hard for a mind bound to EXCESSIVE porn and masturbation to reach it's full potential creative wise. |
"God wants you to keep knocking" ![]() How petty when he could just answer. Keep on knocking? Why? Why not just answer? Why the pettiness? To what end? ![]() |
delugajackson:I understand what you are saying but it's still nonsense. Flamboyance is not a standard for wedding. Mark Zuckerberg did his wedding in his back yard and it involved only three people : himself, his wife and the priest. People should conduct their weddings any how they like. |
OddsIsland:Since the bible lied, why are you still following it? |
Amakavula:The story of Adam and Eve is a myth. A myth to explain how things started at the beginning and establish the idea that the woman is inferior to man, a helper of man and a derivative of man. Abrahamic religions were formulated when men were misogynistic and many of the scriptural laws were a reflection of what these men thought at that time. |
Desmondum:In the real world out there, no one cares about your university. All they care about is if you can get the job done. |
DeckXavier:Amakavula is a very sensible lady. Unconditional love doesn't exist except in telenovelas. I think I did a topic on that. |
IAmSabrina:He is a clown just like the moniker Capensis. |
BornagainThief:.
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BornagainThief:Ubunja is the op. If he has a problem with me, let him be the one to confront me. As I have said, work on your comprehension, English and take a philosophy course that will enlighten you on logical fallacies. As I have said,
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COOL10:He is indeed a star. The alpha that leads other alphas. ![]() |
BornagainThief:Are you BlackSaints? SMH. ![]()
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Mrkumareze:Functions are used to describe our world and many physical phenomena. For a very simple example the function A(R) = πR² gives us a way of finding the area A of circle with radius R by expression A as a function of R. Functions help us describe and predict physical phenomena. |
BornagainThief:I think that? How could you know that Mr. Mind Reader? If speaking English makes one smart then the uneducate average IQ American is smart. Hmmmmmmmmm. |
PrinceCharmings:Wow. Hmmmmm. The Nigerian students can now take English with a pinch of salt even though our secondary school, medical, law and engineering textbooks are written in English. They shouldn't worry because the Chinese are doing better even though they are fluent in English but their lingua franca. Wowww! Just wooowwwww! |
PrinceCharmings:Wow. Hmmmmm. The Nigerian students can now take English with a pinch of salt even though our secondary school, medical and engineering textbooks are written in English. They shouldn't worry because the Chinese are doing better even though they are not fluent in English but Nigeria's lingua franca is English. Wowww! Just wooowwwww! |
In America, people have stopped talking to their friends because they supported Donald Trump. Even families have stopped talking to their own because they supported Donald Trump. In the UK, just like for supporting Trump, you can lose friendship, family, school or job for supporting brexit, criticising Islam and mass illegal Muslim immigration etc. It depends on the person you are dealing and not all are like that. |
BornagainThief:You don't seem like a bright chap. Our conversation started the moment you mentioned me on my post about UBUNJA'S MISEDUCATIONS. Why does my conversation with someone else have to do with our conversation? In addition to brushing up your English, strengthen yourself also in the area of comprehension and take a course in philosophy that will enlighten you on logical fallacies. |
Awoo88:Correct. In mathematical language, you can say it means -5 is not in the implied domain of f(x). |
BornagainThief:None of my business but you mentioned me. Mr. Mind Reader, yes I think I am smart but I know there are always people who are better and I don't see myself as the big deal. Regardless of your English, you might have a clever thinking process in an academic that I don't possess. Anyways, first brush up your English, read the topic again and get back to me. ![]() |
sircrabo:Nothing yet but in understanding the laws of universe and modelling real life phenomenon, functions lend themselves very well. |
BornagainThief:No wonder you can't comprehend my post and Ubunja's miseducations. |
BornagainThief:LMAO, dude what you typed makes no sense. Read my post again and comprehend it this time around. Work on your English, it's "typed" not "type" and it's "so if I disagree with ubunja then I'm a girl?" not "sob if I disagreed with ubunja that's I'm a girl". Seems your English teachers gave you real miseducation. Try correcting their miseducation of you before correcting that of ubunja. |
BornagainThief:This is a very dumb mention to my post ![]() |
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