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Ladycewhy:
gathering the crowd i see ,i know you are a angry person for whatever reason best known to you ,but i think you need to calm down comprehend before typing away . Lol

I am not angry. The provider talk is nonsense. Men don't owe women a dime. I am tired of women running their mouth on how it is incumbent on men to provide because men of the past did the same. The same women would never be like women of the past yet they want men of be men of the past.

1) It's not written anyway that men are supposed to provide for women's needs.

2) Men don't owe women their money. If women need money, let them go and find work.

3) Men have the right to withhold their cash. It is no crime or sin and it is their right.

4) It is not a crime or sin if a woman is expected to provide. Prove me wrong using sound reasoning instead of the usual rhetoric or shaming. You all what equality, you shall then put your money where your mouths are.

I don't blame you or other women, I blame the weak simping men who let women get away with double standards. Either you want equality or not. Women can't claim equality if they chicken out when sh!t hit the fan and then start dishing out the usual rigmarole of how it's incumbent on men to provide blah blah blah blah blah blah.

I rest my case on this thread. Good day.

Ladycewhy:
actually they are taking on more responsibilities that is if you read and understood my write up .

Feminists are not taking on any responsibilities, they are a egoistic, hypocritical, and toxic bunch. Now listen carefully, the provider men of the past are different from men of today, same with the women. The provider men of the past and women of the past had genders roles that were respected and women knew their place. These women were demanded to fulfil certain roles and they had no equal rights and opportunities as men. We men will only become sole providers when you all revert back to being women of the past.

You can't expect us to be the provider men of the past while women are free to not be women of the past. Women of the past were more useful to their husbands: they gave birth, took care of the children, accepted the man was the head of the house, listened to their husbands' commands and rules (the husband's authority was final), consistently and without fail did the chores of cooking, cleaning, and tidying, respected their husbands, gave sex whenever the man wanted etc. all these in return for the man being the provider. So you see, in the past both were useful to themselves. I ask, can a modern woman do all these? NO! You want men to be the provider but can you and your fellow feminists, even women in general, do all these? NO!

The modern woman, in her bloated feminist ego, can't do all these. Why then should we be asked to provide? Let me give you some hard truth:
1) It's not written anyway that men are supposed to provide for women's needs.
2) Men don't owe women their money. If women need money, let them go and find work.
3) Men have the right to withhold their cash. It is no crime or sin and it is their right.
4) It is not a crime or sin if a woman is expected to provide. Prove me wrong using sound reasoning instead of the usual rhetoric or shaming. You all what equality, you shall then put your money where your mouths are.

The provider male role is not natural. Just like mathematical concepts, men defined that role and it's not incumbent on them to fulfil such responsibility. I hope men wake up by realising these facts and act on them so that they can tame the entitlement, hypocrisy, and irrationality of ladies. We cannot have it screamed into our faces that women are equal yet we are somehow expected to provide. Put your money where your mouth is.


Ubunja, emmaodet, AstroG, Omar09, JONNYSPUTE, CAPSLOCKED, healthserve.

emmaodet:
Which brings us to there is No Love, we all just deceiving ourselves.
Thank you ma for the insight and this is what we have been screaming to Simps, Nice guys, Idiots that are been lead to the Slaughter house by women all in the Name of Scam Love.
Frachangs
Martinez39
Pansophist
Ubunja

True. Funny how she proves our red pill message that love is an illusion and women are always after the highest bidders. The facade and scam called romantic love only exists in the mind and heart of men, women have no love to give, they are always ready to mercilessly manipulate to acquire resources from men (eg. dating multiple men and even keeping a harem of beneficial fools in the friend zone); men are disposable utilities to women; and women will always put their interests first.

I am not saying this because I am a misogynist but because it is the pure truth. Ladies won't admit this but it is the truth and don't forget women can easily pretend for many years that they are in love with you. Simps and white knights will heed sound advice instead they would always remain obstinate.

truthsayer009:
Look, I know quite well that no matter how I try to elaborate on my point, you have already made up your mind about Women.
Going by your definition of modern men, then It's safe to say a lot of Nigerian men cannot be classified as "Modern Men". I can tell you for a fact that most Nigerian men are misogynist by nature. I would be very careful in giving out my daughter to a Nigerian man in all honesty.

You have never met a misogynist if you think most Nigerian men are misogynists. Go to Islamic countries and look at men well breed in the Islamic culture and you will know what misogyny really is. Anyway, I won't be arguing furthe on this.

Speaking of laws, Civilization has come to play & those divorce laws were fought for, laws don't just come into existence if people didn't actually fight for them. I want to emphasize that no one is interested in giving another party [ in this case, another gender ] an equal rights willingly, women fought for those laws. Why would I willingly make some else stronger so they can share my privileges with me, does that make any sense?

You are making irrelevant points. I never said those laws were never fought for. The crux of the matter is that those laws are unjustifiable and unfair and they are not hallmarks of a society that treats gender equally and fairly. They are what happen when women have their way, no thanks to weak men who let them. Great Britain fought and overcame many Nigerian tribes, did that justify colonialism and slavery? NO! so I ask again, what's your point and it's relevance to our discussion? Did I ever say those laws came down from heaven? I put it to you that men are interested in equal rights.

Regarding my last statements, empowering women has an effect on economics growth because It trickles down to their offspring (even if their men are neglected in the process), because those offspring [ children ] are the future, directly or indirectly the economy still benefits from it. Also, It increases social cohesion because more educated & empowered women make better decisions generally which makes them work better with men.

Indeed empowering women will help them contribute to the economy. However, women are already empowered. They have their rights and opportunities. Remember, I never said women empowerment is bad and our discussion boils down to If we are to pick one gender to empower, which shall it be? I only made a case of picking men instead of women. This is where you missed it.

Let me end with this, as someone who has dated women outside of Nigeria in school, far back as 2012. I can tell you the mentality, behaviors & expectations are very different in women across borders. So i clearly know that women aren't the same every where. Since the thread is talking about "What men offer". If any one should be angry, i should be in the fore front honestly, but I have more knowledge now. No need to stress

Female nature is universal even though cultures differ remarkably.

I still support women empowerment sha, na my own be that

Read my emboldened reply.

Good night, I rest my case.

truthsayer009:
You had to quote all the divorce laws that I am already aware of, I really do not want to go back & forth with you on this.

Only modern strong men can create a society that is equal, fair, and safe to both genders --- This right here is completely false, usually power intoxicates and people in the affairs of power always make it benefit their kind & oppress the others, this is the expected human behavior and many Laws made by Men have truly oppressed women in the past & still do.

Now if the same power is giving to women, obviously it is not surprising that they would also use it to their favor knowing the how the human mind works.

That being said, there has to be a balance in everything. Empowering women also includes more priority to female education & businesses. It has a major effect on economics growth, it also increases life span of the population & increases social cohesion.

You can disagree & that is fine.

You missed the point by a million yard. I knew what I meant when I said MODERN strong men. You have to realise that humanity is a work in progress. There was a time when slavery, theocracy, and misogyny were the norms but they are behind us for good. The modern man is not a misogynist and will never oppress women. If modern men really hated women, women wouldn't have any right and those divorce laws would never exist. Also, the modern man is weak and "pussified" that's why in addition to giving women equal rights, he has granted them many privileges even at his own expense. Strong modern men are the only ones that will enforce a society that is equal and fair to both genders and would ensure that all are held accountable.

I am not against women right. My argument, which I made to supplement emmaodet's, is that if it boils down to picking one gender for empowerment in this modern time, it should be men. The very same gender that loves ideally, unlike the other that loves opportunistically hence sees men as disposable utilities. Fortunately, our argument is unnecessary since both genders have rights and opportunities. My problem is how to stop men from being simps.

Women already have rights and opportunities as men. Any talk of empowerment is just superfluous cuddling with gender piffle. As to your last point about economic growth, life span of population, and increase social cohesion, can you explain and back these up?

@Aybalance, the solution requires a very basic knowledge of calculus and motion.

KELVIN'S CASE
dv/dx = a (constant acceleration).
By integration,
v = at ———(1) (since v = 0 when t = 0)
Finding the definite integral of (1) from t_o - 3 to t_o (last 3 seconds) with respect to t to get the distance of move in the last 3 seconds ie. a quarter of the total distance ¼S_o . Doing this and solving for S_o will lead to
S_o = 12at_o - 18a ——(2)
t_o is the time at which Kelvin crosses the finish line.
If we had integrated (1) and substituted t_o into the resulting distance function, we would have gotten
S_o = ½at_o² ———(3)

Solving for a in (3) and substituting (2) leads to
t_o² - 24t_o + 36 = 0
Solving this quadratic equation will yield
t_o ≈ 22.392304 sec
The other solution is less than 3 but we discard it since Kelvin's journey took more than 3 sec.

ALISON'S CASE
Your basically follow the same mathematical procedure in Kelvin's case. The difference is that you integrate from t_o - 4 to t_o (last 3 seconds), where t_o is the time at which Alison crossed the finish line. After everything, you will obtain the quadratic equation
t_o² - 24t_o + 48 = 0
The solution is t_o ≈ 21.797959
We discard the other solution because it is less that 4 seconds and we know that Alison's journey took more than 4 seconds.

Kelvin wins by approximately 0.59435 sec.

Aybalance:
pls help:
Two drivers Alison and Kelvin are participating in a drag race.Beginning from a standing start they each proceed with a constant acceleration .kelvin covers the last 1/4 of the distance in 3 secs whereas alison covers the last 1/3 of the distance in 4secs .Who wins and by how much time?

Kelvin wins by approximately 0.59435 sec.

truthsayer009:
Okay then, so we should totally stop women empowerment? Yes or Nay.

Women are already empowered. All this talk of women blah blah blah blah are by people who are still caught up in the romance and cuddling of gender talk. Even if there is really an empowerment, it should be channelled to the men because modern men can be trusted to create a society that is fair and beneficial to both genders. Women, if given the chance, will only create systems and policies that favour their survival and comfort even at the expense of men. If you doubt me, take a look at developed western countries where women have been able to exert some influence with the help of weak men. What do we have:

1) Ridiculous and wicked divorce laws: your wife can divorce you for no reason (no fault divorce) and she gets half your networth (in cash and assets), your house (even if it's your only house, you have to give it up and stay homeless. No one cares), automatic custody of your children in virtually every case, alimony, and children support. The alimony and child support allocated are ridiculously high but they are justified with "the wife and children should live the life they have been accustomed to." If the husband can't meet up with all these, he is thrown in jail. Many men are devastated by divorce and they commit suicide but no one cares. It unsurprising given that men are seen as disposable utility, many men are simps, and women are cunning and remorseless self-centered survivalist.

2) you are ordered by courts to pay child support even if it is discovered that your wife is guilty of paternity fraud and your child isn't really yours. The woman is allowed to go scot free and isn't obliged to name the true father of the child. Even if you were raped by a woman, you will still pay child support because "they are working in the best interest of the child and the child is entitled to help from both parents" forgetting that it is never justified when society makes a man take responsibility for someone else's action. Male minors in schools get molested by female teachers and when those boys grow, they are ordered by law to pay child support even though they were below the age of consent at the time of abuse.

3) sexual abuse and physical assault are treated as crimes that men committed against women. Women are always the victims. In any reported case, the woman's account, whether true or false, is automatically believed and you are guilty until proven innocent. In fact, people have spent years in jail for a rape crime they never committed and all it took was just an allegations. If a woman calls the cops on you, you are immediately handcuffed without any questions or investigation no matter what. This happens in majority of the cases.

4) In certain places, it is illegal for you to get a DNA test without your wife's permission.

5) If a girl is hits you and you attack back, you risk spending time in jail.

6) During most divorces, the husband is forbidden from relating all that transpired during the divorce proceedings. The man's legal fees and that of his wife are to be paid by the man and the wife is at liberty to sue as many times as she wants. If the wife accuses the man of physically assaulting her or sexually abusing his children, she is automatically believed, given sole custody of the kids, and a restraining order preventing the man from seeing her and the kids. Thus she is empowered in the petty and wicked game of parental alienation.

7) Child support is never about the child that's why they don't ask for receipts on how the mother spends the child support even though they would ask the man to turn in records of his earnings and assets. It's all about the money for the woman. Your wife can claim that she needs more compensation due to the fact that her marriage prevented her from working and she needs to get back on her feet.

8} Women usually get lower prison time for the same crime. Even in cases of murder and physical assault, some do get away with ridiculous excuses.

9) Prenups can't protect you. The court will fling it aside with the most ludicrous excuses possible. If your wife claims she wasn't if the right frame of mind or she was coerced or ticked into signing it, she is believed.

10) Women who falsely accuse you of rape and damage your life with such accusations are hardly ever punished.

11) Women are always the victims and men are the oppressors. Your problems are not important but women's problems demand great concern. Men commit most of the suicides but if it happened to women at the same rate, great attention would be paid to solving women's issues.

12) Ubunja, pansophist, emmaodet, JONNYSPUTE, CAPSLOCKED, AstroG, healthserve, HopefulLandlord etc. can add more.

These are just few cases of a situation where women are given the chance to exert some influence thanks to weak men. If a society must stand strong, men must be strong and take the mantle of leadership. Only modern strong men can create a society that is equal, fair, and safe to both genders. Women will invariably create policies, laws, and situations that favour them and rid them of accountability even at the expense of men. Men are always disposable utilities to women and are only loved for what they provide. I am not trying to be a misogynist, I am just spitting facts. Even more informative is the fact that women are the only ones who do "my money is my money, your money is our money". So don't fault emmaodet.

If there is an empowerment for one gender, let it be channelled towards men because men can be trusted to let their families benefit and live in peace. As many men have experienced, women, if made the bread winner, nastily make hell for their husbands and let the husband struggle while she caters for the children alone. Money collected from her are loans that are given with insults and attitude and must be repayed or you risk irksome nagging while the ones given to her by her husband are gifts given out forever.

I could go on explaining but I have stuffs to read this night. People who do not learn from history or are oblivious of history are bound to repeat it. It will suffice to say that men and women have rights and opportunities and any talk of women empowerments is just gender romance.

truthsayer009:
See ehn, i understand you but you need to reason with me that we also have Sisters who are leeching (or have leached) men in the past, no one is really exempted from this. The real problem we have here is cultural & the foundations are hard to break.

A lot of young Western women have been working in coffee shops, cafeteria since 15, 16, 17 etc earning money & taking their life in their own hands meanwhile in Nigeria, parents prepare their female children for marriage & tell the male to keep working hard to provide for the family. Till today, Nigerian parents are still greedy & give a wealthy son-in-law preferential treatment.

We need to empower women to work so a new culture can transcend into unborn female children. At the end of the day, we cannot do without women even after they leech on us. So why not work in making sure our unborn Males get to meet best version of Nigerian females yet to be born.

Forget that thing. In Western societies, men are still burdened with the responsibility of providing. If you think oyibo girls don't do "my money is my money, your money is our money" then you are naive. Don't let their feminism fool you, the feminists over there are still hypocrites and are a breed of mephistophelean proportion. When it comes to toxicity, Nigerian feminists are still learners compared to their western counterparts. Different regions, same sh!t. Over there, the gynocentrism, fleecing of men (in divorce courts, child support and alimony) and unaccountabilty for women are even backed by the government.

Nostradamus:
i don't trust Nigerian leaders with any money forfeited from scanners.our ogas-at-top go swallow that money.

True sha. One red pill that I swallowed a long time ago is that Nigeria will never get better. My teenage and naive idealism in the quest for a better country vanished few years ago. I guess this grim realisation is inevitable for the smart ones as they mature.

RedCreme21:
This brings rise to the question,
Are we so hypocritical that we would judge a gender alone of the sins shared by the other?
Why are female homosexuals treated with greater amount of leniency than the males?

Religion and ignorance. I created a thread sometime back challenging people to give a sound reason why their abhorrence for homosexuality and homosexuals is justified and none could. In that thread of mine, I gave sound arguments for homosexuality. You and Michellekabod2 should check it out and both of you shouldn't fail to notice the utter stupidity of some nairalanders in that thread.

See his head like Invictus Obi. Abeg, make dem commot all the money wey dey for dis guy hand. I hope more fraudulent maggots are apprehended in future.

LilMissFavvy:
'' sunk cost fallacy''......is it a book?

SMH.

kingxsamz:
we're happy with this review, as long as you keep comparing crap with crap, and standard products with standard products, there's no problem.

We are indeed. Crapno and infishit are to be grouped together. Itel is for my enemies.

maynation:
Little wonder

Little wonder what if I may ask?

maynation:
Martinez,
Are you am Atheist or what?

I'm actually confused.

I am an atheist.

If you don't know the answer to this then you are naive.

MJBOLT:

i must have missed the part he got exposed,lemme go through the thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5201990/prophecy-obaofusa-against-mjbolt-both

Oh! That fake pastor called Obaofusa. I think he owned the moniker Obaofbenin (deactivated). Under the username Obaofbenin, he nearly scammed a nairalander (maynation). When his attempt at fleecing her failed, he got angry, rained insults, and opened a thread (which was later cancelled) in which he called her a gold digger and falsely accused her of making away with his 10k. I am sure the moniker Princeofnigeria in that link of yours to Otem's thread represents the same person.

Here is the link to maynation's response thread in which she made clarification and exonerated herself with sound evidence. Have a good laugh
https://www.nairaland.com/5493684/not-scammer-encounter-nairalander

XxSabrinaxX, NeededGist, hulk616

hulk616:
by one pastor like that

What prophecy and by whom?

Edit: I have sorted it out.

Michellekabod2:
Having read variety of comments from all sorts of fellows including hypocrites,sexists,feminist,liberal people et Al I will love to share my thoughts on the scenario.

I am sure there is no law against consensual sex between two adults (18 years and above).
I am also sure there is no law against someone opting for the recording of his/her sex tape. The couple in the viral sex video have done no wrong.
The couple are victims! They have not hurt anyone.
The predator is whoever made the video viral without either/both parties involved consent.

You have made a sound argument. I totally agree with you on this. Concentual sex is no crime.

Its disgraceful that people are throwing shades or blames.

Not necessarily disgraceful. Throwing shades at the two people have sex is plainly irrational and hypocritical (on the part of many) as concentual sex is not a crime and many, even the religious, are "guilty" of concentual premarital sex and even porn and masturbation.
— If the video was recorded and released against their will, then the person who videoed and released it online solely takes the blame.
— if the video was permitted by the couple to be to be taken but not to be released, then the one who released it should be blamed and the couple should be faulted for their stupidity.
— if the video was permitted by the couple to be to be taken and released, then they are to bear the consequences without complaints.

Condemnation of the couple can only come from religious conviction and it's morality.

As for the expulsion,we are in no position to decide whatever actions they university should take. Its all about their policies that were willfully signed and agreed to by the students.
If the policy of the school frowns solely at sexual misconduct whether within or outside the school premises and the party involved in the scandal "agreed" to abide by the school policies(which is as a matter of fact a prerequisite before admission is granted) then the school has all right to expel the student involved.

If there is no such policy on sexual misconduct outside the school premises then the school has no right to expel her.

I second this.

The real predators are the ones who made the video go viral. I guess they should be punished gravely for it.

Let us not find fulfilment in spreading scandal, and if you come across either of the couple involved don't stigmatize or make them feel uncomfortable or slut sham them.
Thanks!

Well, people are going to do what they are going to do.

yinkaOdutuyo:
I sent my girl to UNI with all my money -What do you think can happened later?
Or if you have any experience; kindly share.
My name is Adeyinka Odutuyo Jacobs

yinkaOdutuyo:
I love the girl and she love me too;
She promise to marry me; after she graduated.

Your naivety has gotten the better of you. What's the guarantee that she will marry you? You are in a risky situation where your only hope is that she honours your sacrifice and sticks with you but what's the guarantee of that? Women don't honour such sacrifices and would only stick to their benefactors if it's still beneficial to do so (either you are very rich or you are still her best option and she hasn't met a higher bidder). You really need to start thinking rationally 'cos you are not getting any younger and you can't afford to be stupid in this harsh and brutal world of ours.

Click the following link and read a topic of mine for your benefit:
https://www.nairaland.com/5150034/boys-get-here-mumu-must

Jeffrey Epstein in the making.

ubunja:
while I don't know too much about her personal life except her teachings, I do think she's married officially.

James appears to be still in money somehow.

Thing is, Shera has so many detractors because honest to God she's the best there is on YouTube on gold digging. Shera has put more women on gold digging game than any other female YouTuber.

To me, her personal life is irrelevant. All that matters is that her messages are legit. I agree with you that she has many enemies and all I wrote could be lies set up to malign her for whatever reason. She doesn't appear to be struggling. Finally, she is the undisputed YouTube queen of golddigging.

1) Life is hard but it is harder when one is stupid. Her parents made their lives harder than it should be.
2) At times, stupidity is costly and can be very fatal even to those around the stupid person(s). Her parents' stupidity oppressed and suffered her and her siblings.
3) The church were the scammers and the parents were the fools. In life, wicked, greedy, and crooked individuals will always exist and it is left for one to not be stupid. Given the depth of man's wickedness, one cannot afford to be stupid in today's world. Stupid people will hurt themselves and will invariably be taken advantage of.

SBL28:
Ubunja, Martinez39, I read some posts on Lipstickalley where they said she didn't get much out of the marriage because Jame's first wife got everything in the divorce.
And that Shera is living an average life so she should not act like she's an authority on marrying a rich man.

Actually, if what I heard is true then it means:
— Shera was a side-chick to James while he was married to his first wife.
— James was making $500,000 per year during his first marriage but his wife divorced him and got much of the money (thanks to the divorce courts and it's alimony laws) leaving him struggling a bit. I don't know if his first marriage resulted in any child.
— James and Shera have been together for a long time but they are not officially married. Shera can't really pull out because he pays her child support and gives her some cash every month (amounts that ain't much). It will suffice to say that they are doing well at least but she is not as rich as she claims.
— Shera once ran a scam where girls who joined her LevelUp (after paying) were she matched them with men who were paying Shera to date them. Basically, she orchestrated the whole thing such that men would give her money to date the girls under her wing while she told the girls she was trying to level them up. She had to stop, out of fright, when one of the girls got missing.
— Shera is into witchcraft. This is certain as Shera has admitted this herself and has a YouTube channel dedicated to witchcraft.

NB: These are unconfirmed claims about Shera. However, her situation whatever it may be would not necessarily invalidate most of her tips and tactics. Many women claim to have been helped by Shera's tips and advice. Ubunja should know more about Shera and her ideas.


Cc. Ubunja.

SBL28:
Lol, so I looked the woman up. He's not so bad nau.

Actually he is not. He is just old but people just like to diss him.

RedCreme21:
Martinez39, i try to be polite when quoting you but you make it hard. If you lack a good amount of humour, then refrain from quoting me. It's one thing to be smart, another to be stuck up. For you to take this thread seriously and comment using such nasty words...
Thats neither cool nor decent.

I was joking and being serious at the same time. Perhaps you took me too seriously. Anyway, good day.

A month in which men abstain from eating nuts. It's a sacred stuff.

RedCreme21:
Sorry i had to reply that humourless martinez39. for a decent friendship? Sure.

Lol. You this little girl. I hope you find the d!ck you are looking and I hope it rips you into two equal halves. Better go face your studies.

Lionpikin:
Martinez my g....you are among those that changed my life on women issues, you, Ubunja and Harddon....I've always been trying to holla at you but you no dey ever answer me....

No mind me jare. To be honest, I never saw your mention. Good to note that you are free from female manipulation and the illusion call romantic love. More red pills to you.

RedCreme21:
[s][/s]
Preaching, preaching and more preaching since morning. Thanks but i need something else.

According to you,
> you have nearly a hundred porn videos
> you are becoming a chronic masturbator

Somehow, you don't think you need the discipline and self control to channel time and energy on productive things? Masturbation and porn don't contribute anything to your life other than give you pleasure (which is worthless) and waste copious amount of your time. Without porn and masturbation, will you die?

*cough* oh I forgot, you don't need my preachments. Hope you find the d!ck you are looking for and it rips you in two halves. Have a wonderful day.

Pettyprincess:
Lol you already know the answer
A virgin can actually masturbate with one finger without tampering with the hymen because some virgin use tampons which is same size of a middle finger or even bigger!! With two fingers a virgin will find it hard to penetrate

You sef dey sample your Mrs. Clinton (clitoris). Nothing bad sha. Have a wonderful day.