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We do advice each other to self-improve, but it is not the main topic of discussion. It is what it is. Let the thread be what it is in peace. Funny enough, I too want to see a society where men are important and treated rightfully, but that doesn't mean I will not let this thread serve its and choose to get worked up over the nature of this thread.

Nothing stops you from creating athread with your preferred aim and nature, or going to the ones that align with your needs/wants. Take the bull by the horn and do something instead of getting worked up at the thread and misrepresenting redpillers here and this thread.

For instance, feminism began as a harmless movement to advocate equal job opportunities (among other noble things) between both genders, but now, they have started and continued to move mad by thinking males and females are equal and should be treated the same. Of course, we all can see staunch feminist in their 50s and 60s regretting that they ever towed that path.
I fear that if we are not convergent in our thought, by zooming out a little to see the chaordic effect of our advocacy on the larger community, we will be worse off than we started.
This is fact!

I understand your point, but you need to let this group serve its purpose in peace. By the way, just to add, feminism has never been about equal rights and equal treatments. I will discuss later if chanced.

Again, anyone can decide to lead their lives the way they want to, but like a very intelligent man said "blessed are the BALANCED, for they shall outlast others".

Merci.

Don't worry, bro. We are alright. Redpillers coming here doesn't mean we don't go to other threads, websites/app, or offline sources that will help us in other relevant aspects of our lives to achieve this so-called balance. Stop assuming this thread is all we know and do. Redpillers know who, what and where to go to if they need things concerning business, skill acquisition, gym and fitness, etc. The thread isn't the only content on the internet.

Instead of trying to make this thread be the way you want, it is better to go to or create the thread the satisfies you because this thread won't change. It's no use worrying or showing concern when this thread won't bend the knee and suit your taste; this thread has its purpose and it isn't centered around anyone or any redpiller. Finally, as I have always said, people not following your life path doesn't mean they are falling short. Life is simple...


End.

^{Edit: you are welcome whenever you come, as long as you do your due diligence, abide by the thread's rules, and desist from misrepresenting us and playing silly/childish games.}

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A number of guys have said that anyone who doesn't agree with their positions should go and create their own thread... It's sad. Sad because if we can't have constructive criticisms around a subject as gentle men, what breed of weaklings are we then?

Wrong! More misrepresentation! More misrepresentation and strawmanning in order to make a good point! It wasn't necessary to brand the people you were referring to as narrow-minded weaklings.

Obviously, no one said people who don't agree with their opinions and ideas should leave this thread. Remember, on this thread's front door is the pharse "strictly red pill." This means we are strictly concerned with the red pill, nothing else. We are simply asking those who aren't satisfied with the primary objective/focus and nature of this thread to save themselves the stress and go to other threads that meet their needs/wants or create such threads. We are simply asking those that like antagonising and/or misrepresenting us and calling our ideas false to go to threads that suit them instead of derailing and wasting time and energy making irrelevant and unnecessary posts; it's better because redpillers and this thread will always do what it has been doing, no matter what. We are simply asking those who think they have something other than the red pill to go to threads meant for what they have and leave a strictly-redpill thread alone. It is fitting to let this thread serve its purpose. Doing all these doesn't mean we are narrow-minded weaklings. Life is simple.

Even though I'm an atheist, I acknowledge that it makes no sense to go to a strictly-christianity thread (or church gathering) and start vomiting my atheism and then call them narrow-minded weaklings if they remind me of the purpose of their thread (or church gathering), or suggest I go to atheist threads or create one. It doesn't even make sense even if I am convinced all religions are man-made and the Christians in their thread have it wrong; everything has its thread and time. Finally, IF you just want to seem like a open-minded and intelligent individual at our expense, we will gladly acknowledge your evolved and keen mind if it will help you rest and feel good.

I'll just quickly point out a thing or two.
In psychology, there are different kinds of cognitive processes, but for the purpose of the point I am presently interested in making, I want to touch on divergent and convergent thinking, very briefly.
As good as divergent analytical thinking is, the major issue is that extremes can be easily reached with this way of thinking, because most often than not, the bigger picture is not kept in perspective, so, not every variable in the equation is considered, before conclusions are made. That's why some people can say that all Nigerian ladies are immoral manipulative money-thirsty morons and everyone cheers like they came from the same village! Again... very sad!

Convergent thinking, on the other hand, puts the bigger picture in perspective, and so, carefully factors in other inclinations so as to make a very holistic conclusion.

SMH.

What's my point?
If what we want to see (which I think should be) is a saner society where all men are seen as important and given their rightful place, then pushing only one point too hard will lead into more error than we began with.

Oga, this group cannot contain everything. However, let this group serve its purpose in peace. Not everyone here focuses on female nature 24/7 and neglects other aspects. Redpillers here are different. The fact that we often come here doesn't mean we don't go to other threads, websites/app, or offline sources that will help us in other relevant aspects of our lives. Let this thread serve its purpose in peace. The impact of this thread is mainly on an individual level. Once you swallow the red pill, it is left for you to do what you want with your red pill awareness and forge your path...

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NeuroToby:
I see people saying this is a thread is in the romance part of NL and so is not aimed at self development, hence, strictly 'woman matter' should be discussed... well, it's quite understandable, but I have rarely seen people who are not doing well romantically experience any tangible growth in other areas.

Please, try to go through this thread properly to get what it is all about. Due diligence will help eliminate ignorant talk, except you are doing it deliberately with an agenda. As I have said, redpillers and this thread aren't against self-improvement and life success; however, the primary objective of this thread is to give good and thorough insights into female nature and discuss other topics that help us in achieving this objective. The fact that this is this thread's primary focus doesn't mean we are against self-improvement.

It costs absolutely nothing to let this thread serve its purpose in peace. Given this thread's purpose, I see no reason why anyone will come here and get worked up over the focus on female nature (women) and other related subject matter, and even go as far as insinuating that our many discussions are us chasing women at the expense of self-improvement and success. How does one come to that conclusion? Redpillers come here to get what this thread is offering, and when they need other things (eg. business and investment, health advice, etc.), they simply go to threads or individuals (bluepill or redpiller) that can help out instead of wondering why these things aren't dominating our discussions or insinuating that we are chasing women and neglecting these things.

Let this thread serve its purpose in peace. If you need other things that you feel will make your life or perspective balanced and complete, go to other threads and sources, in addition to this thread. If you even feel like not visiting here again, that's fine but this thread won't change from being what it is.

"I have rarely seen people who are not doing well romantically experience any tangible growth in other areas."
SMH. Whatever you say.

I like the way @Martiñez39s made his objective critical analysis of my submission. I will not bother to say anymore things in that regard... we all can have our different views of the same topic and lead our lives as we well please.

Okay. You are welcome; It's okay to disagree.

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Dabronze:
Understand women nature!

Hope you don't mind, can you explain this post to me? There is a reason why I ask. Hope we can have a short discussion later.

If he had avoided the meetings, you will probably complain that he is irresponsible and untrustworthy.

TainyLite:
Amazing!!!

A common reset button that fools bluepilled fellows.

ubunja:
I'm here man,, and you're right on the money.

Guys come here and diss the thread saying we're too focused on women ,personally I don't know why they can't create the threads they need as you have mentioned. Cause it's simple. If this thread is not what you're looking for you can just go create the one you feel is sorely needed. And guys will visit and contribute if they like it. Simple.

Another funny thing, if you haven't noticed, is the way some come here, look at our many discussions and insights into female nature and act like our many discussions are just us constructing too many unnecessary dogma and cumbersome rules in an attempt to attract/handle women and have sex. They make us seem like people who are confused, inexperienced and misled, and people who are just confabulating or regurgitating tons of unnecessary, unrealistic, dogmatic and irrational maths/theories in this regard. I won't even discuss those who act like our discussions are just disgruntled musings and rage of unsuccessful, inexperienced and sexually frustrated men, neither will I discuss those that make it seem like our many discussions are 24/7 time-wasting activities of unproductive men who have nothing to do than to be obsessed with women.

They do this disingenuous or ignorant nonsense just to make the point that the principles of attracting women and having sex isn't too hard, that it's just simple. Well, they should tell us where we said it's hard or made it way too hard like climbing seven mountains and seas. They make this point as they raise their shoulders and act like they have the experience and knowledge, and things in this regard are very easy for them. You know, like they know the way, the smart and simple way... no stress, while we are the ones haphazardly roaming in confusion and ignorance, like headless chickens, with our silly dogmas and theories. What cheap nonsense! Do they think this silly game will score them points? You see ehn, the need to make a good point by any means and chase relevance/attention will make many become clowns before smart folks who don't fall for cheap games and can see through people.

We have discussed how all roads leads to sex (I am sure most of them are unaware and don't get the context), but our many discussions involve manifold subject matters, other than getting sex, that are in line with the purpose of this thread.

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If they can't pick want they want from this thread's rich buffet and leave the rest, that's their business.

If they really think we are forming a religion or cult with this red pill stuff and imposing dogmas and doctrines on everyone, they should leave us alone with our "religion" or "cult." After all, we are not forcing anyone to join the red pill and there many other threads to go to. They can even create their own threads.

If they think they can do things better, let them simply create their thread.

Hrhdujdb:
Y'all be blowing me on this thread I'm not gon lie. A KNOWN TROLL IS DOING HIS JOB AND YALL HAVE A DUTY - IGNORE but somehow that's very difficult, ain't it?

The troll even gave the instance of authors making money like that's a crime but same troll went ahead to show himself consuming some products and in a *furnished* location. Do you think the producers of those things also didn't make profit?

Moreso, don't tell me there're people in here who think knowledge is cheap, heck knowledge of female nature? Smh

If you think those books are expensive, why don't you try being ignorant about female nature and compare the losses? A troll is using a popular carrot and stick method that we supposedly already learnt as a tool in women's handbook. This is now being used by a troll and supposedly ballfull men are falling left and right lol

Humor me

A TROLL IS A TROLL. Just as AWALT, the troll is guilty of being dumb until proven innocent. In this case, it's better he deactivates and come back as a new account if he thinks he wants to join in on the intelligent convo here for all the crimes he's committed against this thread

Apt! Good take.

@emboldened
Also, glad to see you are in the business of holding people accountable instead of sweeping things under the carpet when these nuisances and clowns take some time off, come back, and tiptoe into our discussions with the "little sense" they are making in their post (eg LifestylèTonite and others)

NeuroToby:
I've read through this thread for almost one hour and I want to quickly lend my voice to two opinions;

1. If you don't know yourself as a guy, you'll keep running from pillar to post trying to win a woman over. And by the way, I thought being successful (in every area of life) and not trying to chase a women is the goal?

What are you really trying to say? Are redpillers here, or this thread, against being successful? Do redpillers here, or this thread, encourage men to chase women at the expense of self-improvement and life success? Why are you saying "I thought so so is the goal" as if we are doing the opposite?

I hope this isn't the usual behaviour of digressing, misrepresenting and strawmanning redpillers and this thread just to indulge the need to make a good point. By the way, it is good that you know yourself as a guy, and it is also good to have red pill awareness.

It's sad, however, that many men know so much about a woman, they forget how to build a home and raise godly children.

The primary purpose, or GOAL, of this thread is to give sound awareness of and insights into female nature. Other topics such as game, intersexual dynamics, gynocentrism, etc are discussed because they greatly help in understanding female nature. Redpillers are here in an attempt to discuss all there is to female nature, if possible. This is why this thread was created. We even discuss happenings, home and abroad, that pertain to the topics of this thread.

What you do with your red pill awareness is up to you. Every redpiller will follow his own path; as long as they are not simping or being betas, there is no problem. If you what to get married, build a home and raise godly children, that's up to you; it's not incumbent on others to follow your footsteps. What matters to you doesn't matter to orhers. The earlier you understand that, it earlier you will stop lamenting that others are not following your footsteps.

Finally, since redpillers know the principles discussed here, they are capable of making things work for them if the opportunity presents itself, they know the importance of self-improvement, and they know the type of men they ought to be.

2. The support a man needs is in the hands of another men. We can cry foul all we want, but the truth is that it is the same men that will favor ladies over you who are advocating that you become an alpha male.

That's blue pill men and simps. Surely you are referring to men outside this thread since there is no indication that the men here are like that. Just saying.

NB: I agree with some of the submissions made by elders in the house, some, I don't. It's imperative, therefore, that every guy knows where he's going to, face it squarely and everything else will fall in place, including the kind of woman he needs.

Shalom.

Good. It is okay that you don't agree with everything. Even redpillers here have their disagreements. However, just keep in mind that morality and human decency are not issues here in the sense we don't discuss them and they are utterly irrelevant to our discussions. There is no moral code here.

Also, you will see posts that contain very unpopular opinion and takes that might shock or deeply offend you, or cause strong disagreement. This is normal and this thread is meant for such; it's one of the beautiful things about this thread. If you encounter such, simply either disagree and skip, or you disagree and ask the poster why he thinks what he thinks. No need to start having seizures and start making blatant or underhanded remarks about the poster for whatever reason.

Agelastus:


I'm totally in support man.

You thought I disapprove?

I thought you disapproved. My bad.

Agelastus:
No

There is nothing wrong with that tweet. It's sound advice. Focus should be given to things that truly matter.

Shey you dey whine me ni.

Eric247:



Yes sir, I'm a student currently facing exams now

Focus on your exams and ensure you always make up your mind from the depth of your heart to make sound choices.

ubunja:
the way the above loser keeps mentioning Zimbabwe I just remembered something....

this paternity fraud thing is really getting out of hand. It may be that my own country may be the worst in Africa ...

@Eric247

How is your day going? Hope you have started trying to overcome your obstacles. Any obstacle holding you back? You might not go from 0 to 100 real quick in your efficiency and productivity, but you can build on small changes and keep getting better with time.

If we don't positively programme ourselves with discipline and time, our natural tendencies will programme us for the worse.

zrealjaheal:


Happy your daughter is doing fine...



Chief your destiny ain't written anywhere. . E dey your palm.. you write it yourself.. just like I have leant to own up that my mistakes and wrong turns are on me

Gbam! Your life is what you make of it.

CaveAdullam:


Any alternative to the baking powder?

Thanks.

You cook sweet food, you no invite me. Don't you know when I descend the holy mountain in Tibet, a monk must break his fast?

@Eric247

To add to what I wrote, just know that there are no shortcuts to anything worth having and there are no magical, easy solutions. Discipline, perseverance and resolve are essential in beating your addiction and becoming a better you. There is no other way.

Make sure you are mental ready to take on the assignment I suggested. It is one thing to desire going to the gym or jogging outside, it's another to be mentally ready.

Start now, don't waste time.

Phraences:


Aspire to Perspire!!!!!

Inspire like Maguire.

Phraences:


I hope the first statement is true though from the total silence all around me i no dey sure. But you are right that anything wey wan happen go happen. Life is random. It’s just like a gamble. Some are born whole, some with all manner of genetic diseases. So many examples of the randomness of life.

This post shows that life is showing telling you that we are on our own and life will run its course as if there is no god. We are all subject to the laws of nature, regardless of our belief in god and moral uprightness.

Fortune and misfortune happen to everyone regardless of their belief in god and moral uprightness. Fortune and misfortune happen to believers and unbelievers at roughly the same rate. Life is just happening.

2Radii:
Alaye calm down

You can't hate or fight what u don't see...

Leave God alone to His wonders..


I am sure if I ask you to explain how Oxygen, vegetations, earth(soil), light and darkness (day and night), even you..came into existence you would be blabbing to to prove a point

So? If humans can't explain or figure out something, does that prove your god is real?

GOD IS ALIVE, JUST THAT HE WONT DO WHAT HE WONT DO, THAT IS WHY I DONT PRAY AGAIN,

me self no dey pray ooh, but a dey thank my GOD for all His wonders.

@emboldened

Your experiences are telling you that there is no god and prayers are useless. You have seen that outcomes occur regardless of prayer, but you misconstrued life's teaching and saw it as god doing whatever he pleases and as "what will be will be".

Isn't this remarkably similarly to God's non-existence and the facts that we are on our own and life will run its course as if there is no God?

onlinestaff2020:

True talk.
We are all Gods in our own rights.
The real God doesn't have our time.
Satan is winning the race.
The so called men of God are cashing in on our ignoramus.

I agree that we are gods in our own rights, but I don't think Satan is real. There is no supernatural entity or dimension anywhere. I am convinced that the physical world is all there is and all there will ever be. What you see as Satan winning is just life happening.

Eric247:
Ubunja
CaveAdullam
Martinez
Skepticus
Dabronze
Emmaodet
Sozinn
Zabiboy
Pansophist
JESHAL
Capslocked
MJBOLT

Help me, I'm addicted to sex, I love masturbating, watching porn and fucking prostitutes, it's costing me money, time and my self esteem, I'm still young, and I know many here are hypocritically following this thread and have the same issues as me but can't express themselves because it's very shameful, this my second time I'm laying this complaint but I didn't get any response the first time, the addiction is killing me, it's making me feel hopelessly chained to lust, again the spinning plates doctrine here from Ubunja pushes me to crave sex, it's becoming unhealthy and an obsession for me, I want Bleep anything attractive in skirt, I fantasize even about sleeping with people's wife, I need help, it is becoming embarrassing, I tried prayers and other spiritual routes but to no avail, I'm ashamed to seek therapy and counsel


Please help your brother
These thread is a life saver about female nature but with regards to males nature we are lacking in counsel

See, bro, you have an addiction to porn and mastubation and your sexual addiction and libido will only get worse the more you go down this rabbit hole. It doesn't matter if you are getting hot chicks left, right and centre or if you are an incel struggling to even woo a granny, anyone can have sex addiction and such a person who cannot his lust has serious problems on his hands. Others might not have your problem —I don't— but it doesn't change the fact that your problem is real and you have a serious problem.

That being said, what I am going to tell you is my personal advise. I have always told people that all redpillers ought to have the discipline to be masters of their lust and control themselves to the extent they can effortlessly say "no" to pusśy, fine ass and boobs. This discipline is so underrated and ought to be a must for redpillers, player or mgtow monk.

I have always said here before that everyone who has learnt the redpill must set out at least eighteen to twenty-four months of their lives where they say no to anything sex ie. pussy, porn, mastubation etc. Even shun serious relationship. During this period, even a sweet, mouthwatering opportunity for sex presents itself, reject it even if your mind tells you that you might never see that opportunity again or it tells you that you are missing out. During this time, as you discipline yourself to shun sex, devote every ounce of your time and being to disciplining yourself, building good habits and self-improvement:

(a) go to the gym and get your body used to physical workout,
(b) read academic or useful books,
(c) learn a skill,
(d) improve your vocabulary,
(e) train yourself to eat healthy and clean for life.
(f) learn how to save and manage money and not spend unnecessarily,
(g) shun unnecessary internet/social media usage and avoid distractions like movies and series. Use the time to either sleep or do any of the above. No time.

Do this for eighteen to twenty-four months. After you successfully complete this list of task, then you can go back to spinning plate and relationships (if you want). See this as a rite of passage to the next level of your red pill journey. These tasks will not be easy at first because you are probably not used to them, but keep it in mind that you will get used to them around the two- to three- month mark. The human body is a vessel of habit, we use discipline and time to condition and restrain our body. So it is up to you to build to your habits.

If you can successfully complete the tasks I am suggesting to you, you will notice the following, which are by products of your discipline and habits:

(1) you will be more disciplined and used to self-control,
(2) you will be very focused and easily beat distraction,
(3) you will be more productive and efficient, and consequently less depressed and anxious because it seems your life is growing in a good direction,
(4) you will know by intuition that you are a master of your lust and sexuality, you will be surprise to know for certain that you can decide to stay five years without sex and porn if you want to. Others won't believe it.
(5) due to the fact that you, as a redpiller, can effortlessly say no to pùssy, no matter how tempting it is for other men, you will not easily be manipulated by women.
(6) due to the fact that your peñis isn't controlling you and clouding your senses, you can easily see through certain things and logically think in the direction most men won't because their diçks are ruling them.
(7) sometimes, at a particular time, you will find yourself rejecting an opportunity to successfully rendezvous for sex because you find your productive activities more interesting and rewarding.

I can list more and more. You might not get all I am writing until you successfully complete this assignment. Every redpiller should give this assignment a try. Sometimes, it will happen that you loved how life became during this monk period that you will willingly try this monk period over and over. If you think the assignment I am giving you is difficult to accomplish, just know that I am passed through them.

Note that it won't be easy at first, but you will get used to many things with time as you recondition your body and mind to accommodate productive things as the norm. Even when certain things become the norm, you will still keep disciplining yourself.

Finally, another important thing you can't do without as you carry out this assignment is the understanding of discipline as an adult: you must make it a norm to do what you ought to do and what is good for you even if you don't feel like it. This is what separate those that will be better from those who won't. Don't wait for when you feel right, in the mood or motivated; do it now and when you ought to. Do it even if you don't feel like; that's the only way. Don't waste your time thinking you will start tomorrow, do not procrastinate; time flies, especially in you 20s: before you know it, you are in your mid 30s. If you don't make use of your time, you will be filled with regret and pain in future.

Nothing can help you, except discipline. Only discipline. Don't expect it to be easy. Discipline for life, till death.

zrealjaheal:
My whole life I have left this country thrice... birthed in france (story for another day)

Now when I saw things were about falling apart I decided to run to Germany... noted
: money wasn't the issue then but I was denied. . Tried SA was granted but I had to consult (by consult went to a prophet) he said why I was rejected for Germany was because I was living a wayward life. That I should put SA on hold and try Sweden(got no one in SA but I do have folks in Sweden)

Na so I enter better fasting.. shanked all the so called wayward life. Had to move down to the church sef make temptation no get the best of me lol

No embassy swedish embassy then you have to go submit your documents at ikoyi vfs. .


The day I was suppose to pick up my visa ... Bro I was denied again. . Nearly ran mad.. and thus time money done finish. .

Went to the prophet told him the outcome

He said
"TAKE HEART MY SON GOD KNOWS BEST FOR EVERYTHING THERE IS REASON"


I just jejely waka comot after he was done with prayers head to the nearest bar got my soul filled


Really eh story too much. .

KAI! What a heartless bastàrd!

Gadafii:
Safe to say men shouldn’t get married, mental health and sanity better pass stupid standards set by society for men

Marriage no Dey favor men this days, remain single and enjoy your life, travel around and do the things you love to do without harming others, if you feel the need to have kids, get a baby mama and settle her, because if you allow her trap you with marriage , your a finished and dead man

Men will never heed your advice.

Vadese1:
Am much confused. To think that at a younger age, I almost singlehandedly completed a church building for worshipping God. 80percent of the church project was finance by me. Today am living like nobody. This month make it Exactly 8 years that things went South.

Take heart, bro. We were all indoctrinated into various religions and superstitions growing up, thanks to our parents who should have known better. To varing degrees, we've all been victims of our ignorance and superstitions... sometimes, at the hands of crooked men (eg. clergies and spiritualists) who exploited these things.

Good thing is you are now awake. God is nonexistent; we are on our own; and there is no supernatural force from anywhere coming to bail anyone out. Cheers!

Karlifate:




Wande Coal comes to mind.

Wetin do Wande Coal?

Drunkard1:
lol e pain am. Scam no good. He is reaping what he sow. He go suffer more cos i know he is lazy waiting for next cashout. Not kmowing he is wasting his life. Tell him to bleep off from earth

Person collect $35k through scam and he come dey depressed because EFCC collect am. Werey.

LadyPortable:


Tell me you're joking, but If true, it shall never be well with whomever that did this to you

Why do you think someone did something to him? Don't you know that people make bad decisions out of ignorance, stupidity or indiscipline?

Vadese1:
I was in a world of my own till I lost my job 2014. Everything were just so fast for me. Moving from one country to another with some of the biggest oil and gas services companies. Till now am still finding it difficult to rise again. I have been to several churches to seek for solutions, but nothing has change. Everything remain the same. Just holding on to God for restoration

There is no god. Humans are on their own and left to their devices. No god is coming to save anyone. Know this and know peace.

jeslom:
If I start to talk I won 40 million with 40,000 Naira on sportybet , I felt invincible . I started carrying all the prostitutes I could think of, send money to all those begging me , bought a car and living the lavish life put 20 million Naira back to betting and I can categorically tell you that I lost it all . Now all the friends I gathered in the win days has left me and my rickety camry alone..

Lol. You no get sense then.