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OLAADEGBU:
I know you dare not say merry Christmas!

Just as Kumuyi will not say it since he told you Christmas is IDOLATRY!

Proudlyngwa:
The term Christ means Saviour
Christian means followers of the Saviour
Most people believe , that Jesus is the Saviour, and that is where it ends.
If you are a follower of Christ it will be evident in your life.

The highlighted is a big lie!

To illustrate:
Imagine a house where children lives and the one who supposed to be their father traveled but he commissioned a work and told his children to do the work thoroughly as a team with a promise that when he returns those BELIEVING in him as their father will be rewarded.
Please is it those calling him "daddy daddy" that are doing what he ordered or those working together as a team to make the difference their father expected? Matthew 7:21-23

The title "CHRIST" is about a man born to be called:
WONDERFUL COUNSELOR
MIGHTY GOD
EVERLASTING FATHER
PRINCE of PEACE. Isaiah 9:6

In all of these we need to know that those who are followers or subjects of this title holder must be ORGANIZED {1Corinthians 14:33,40} as a unique group {John 17:22} to be identified by some activities {Act 11:26} which has to do with the command he gave them. Matthew 28:19-20

So it's a lie to assume that the word CHRISTIANS refer to individuals found in different religions claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines! 1Corinthians 1:10 compare to Ephesians 4:3

tctrills:
You always get it wrong boy. No one is here to start mentioning religions. You are the only one in that game. Most of us are here to discuss principles and doctrines of Christianity.
We are not here to play your childish game of my church is better than your.
You have tried many times to get me to play your game but there is no value to it.

But you will jump into a thread where a unique religion is called out shey?
Ọmọ you're a disguised atheist claiming you believe in God but secretly you're one out of many who are worshiping themselves!

When God is not pleased with something how do we expect Him to show the disapproval?

Well some will tell you that God will speak from the sky to everyone yet we all know that in the Bible God has condemned many acts as written in the BOOK.

So when something is not blessed by God such a thing will continue to bring hardship to people no matter how much the people love it!

cl0r0x:
With the news of the catholic pope suddenly endorsing same sex marriage in church, my question is has God updated the bible or the commandments?
If it was wrong yesterday how is it right today?

The word "CHURCH" is the problem today but then instead of assuming that any building on which the name "CHURCH" is written is for the Bible God why not compare their beliefs to what Jesus taught?
According to the Bible after Jesus established his group and left Satan planted his agents right in their midst like yeast {Matthew 13:25} you already know what yeast does to food and so within a short time what Jesus taught gradually got lost that's why he asked:

"When the son of man returns, will he still meet this teachings" Luke 18:8

Of course Jesus returned some 2000 years later and just as he foretold his group has disappeared as Satan's agents have hijacked everything so he called his people out from the midst of Satan's agents {Revelations 18:4} and the true God began calling them by another group name today! Isaiah 65:15

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

If Islam is in the hearts of those claiming Muslims it shouldn't be on social media that a member supposed to remind adherents what to do or not to do. Each Muslim supposed to know what their god wants!

OLAADEGBU:
Since you knew this, why ask?

To show you how FAITHLESS you are if Kumuyi TEACHES that Christmas is IDOLATRY but you ignored his teaching on the subject according to the Bible you are faithless because you supposed to imitate the faith of Kumuyi who is teaching you the words of your preferred god! Hebrews 13:7

OLAADEGBU:
The first Christmas was not necessary merry for your likes.

Because it's a defamation of the teachings found in God's word, no servant of God practiced birthday celebrations and Jesus God's Son took that seriously! Matthew 5:17

OLAADEGBU:
The Jesus I know was celebrated it is you and your folks are the ones who missed out. 🤣

And Kumuyi insisted that Christmas is idolatry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=569wyON5zDQ?si=T5EFl_jmK3U7wvtf

tctrills:
Loool.
Now you see what I do in my house..
Did is the kind of foolishness that is annoying your members

All your friends accusing JWs can't mention any religion because each of them has built a secret altar in his heart and that's where he bows to himselves each time he wakes up.
So just like them you are sitting on the fence to point accusing fingers at any religion that's speaking up as God's organization.
Ọmọ we know your type wella wella!

OLAADEGBU:
As long as our Lord Jesus Christ (who you do not know) does not abandon me, I’m good. 😊

Kumuyi who has been your teacher regarding truth and falsehood say Christmas is idolatry but you ignored him and joined those he has always told you they're not on the path to life yet your own Jesus will not abandon you.
Ọmọ nah was for your own Jesus o!

So why coming here to speak against others if you think your Jesus will approve people who are members of a religion but doing whatever pleases them!

tctrills:
According to you? I can't remember discussing where I worship with you.

Did you even worship at all?
Ọmọ i know you worship yourself in your own house but to humbly join others as co-believers, NO because there is no group worth your membership!

tctrills:
But you have shown that your group has nothing to offer. You always speak of a better group yet you can't show how you exceed any other group.
If you want me to list 30 groups performing better are reasons why just tell me and I will give you the list

Performing groups that you don't belong to any!

tctrills:
You seem very relieved
But no, you where never under gunpoint to answer any of my questions.
Your members saw the bad job you were doing and took action. You and the other members of your team were bringing them shame because you never had answers to simple questions. Let's hope the new team would not follow your beating around the bush strategy.
Up till yesterday, I was asking myself, are JW members this daft? Can't they see how their squad keeps messing up?
But then yesterday proved they are not that daft.
They couldn't take you and your team anymore.
I advise you to take a full year to study the scriptures then return a more rounded person.

That's where you continue deceiving yourself because in the absence of a better performing group Jehovah's Witnesses have it all!

God created all creatures using the dust of the earth {Genesis 2:7} so at death all creatures return to dust {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20} the energy sustaining our heart to continue breathing returns to God who gave it to all creatures in the beginning! Ecclesiastes 12:7

As for Heaven humans have no business doing there that place belongs God and other spirit beings it's earth God made for humans! Psalm 115:16

Where most Bible readers got it all wrong is when Jesus was talking to his prospective corulers, they're supposed to reign with him in Jerusalem {Isaiah 2:3} but the inhabitants of that city were attacking God's messengers and sending many of them to early grave {Matthew 23:37-38} that's why Jerusalem was condemned and the glory is to be taken to another place {Matthew 22:7} when Jesus was talking about all the calamities that will befall Jerusalem {Luke 21:24} his disciples became devastated so he consoled them assuring them that the kingdom has been given to them {Luke 12:32} but where are they going to stay with him to rule?
That's why he said:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be. John 14:1-3

This statement doesn't mean that all believers are going to heaven but only those who are prospective corulers with Christ will become spirit creatures like angels to stay with Christ so just as Jesus never marry they also will no longer think of marriage because they have become spirit creatures {Luke 20:34-36} so they will rule with him over the earth and mind you it's a limited number! Revelation 14:1

vdestro:
Every atheists has his own personal issue against God because He did not help them. That is the common factor.

The hidden thorn in their flesh is selfishness coupled with greed and wickedness!

They want God to treat them special because they claim they're His worshipers so instead of making research to know why there is injustice, suffering and pain in the world they feel God supposed to prevent all of that not to affect them while they watch others suffer all of it.
So because they're lazy intellectually to make the needed research they concluded there is no God! Psalm 10:4

FRANCISTOWN:
Okay! @the Subscripted texts.
Maybe because I'm stoic in nature, I really don't know whether a kind of disappointment can lead people to atheism. I think it can only lead them to misotheism(the hatred for god and deities).

Your problem is picking words that has been defined to your taste and keeping it in your dairy anticipating others to swallow it the same way you did. Theism, Atheism, Misotheism, Agnosticm, Polytheism this or that Eism doesn't make you wise it's only a sign that you have accumulated so many garbages of human philosophical ideas.
If someone truly believes God exist it's the way he/she deals with others that will prove it not what they're saying with their mouth!

FRANCISTOWN:
When I was a Christian and my prayers weren't answered, that was when my faith grew the more because I thought it was god testing me.

There you go again claiming you were once a Christian when in actual fact you were just a misinformed churchgoer. Christians must find time to go out with fellow believers to preach from house to house and door to door {Matthew 10:11-13} and the theme of their message should be "God's Kingdom" {Matthew 10:7} they must not disturb the public who aren't interested in their message with noise {Matthew 12:19} they must not be found in politics {John 17:14} they must not be killers justifying it by nationalism claiming they are protecting/defending their country {Matthew 10:23} they must love their neighbours (people everywhere) as themselves {Mark 12:31} they must not join in killing or support the killing of any wrongdoer! Matthew 7:1-4
I know all these won't matter to you as long as the definition given to you about Christianity is just to go doing churchy stuff.

FRANCISTOWN:
I think only knowledge can lead one to atheism. In my own case, I read a report
in 2011 and I really started to think.
Then I started reading everything I
could lay my hands on because I was
fighting with my sprit to not doubt the
existence of God.

Your so called knowledge was based on what people say not critical thinking because if you're a critical thinker you supposed to criticize atheism too but since you have nothing tangible to hold onto as knowledge of God you think atheism is better.

FRANCISTOWN:
Anyone who became an atheist because God disappointed them is just hurting, sooner or later they'll find their way back to him but you see those of us who became atheists thru knowledge and critical thinking. There is nothing anybody can tell us again that we've not known.

Did you know that without all those things Jesus commanded you're ya Christian?
If course you don't!
So ọmọ there are lots and lots of things you don't know!

FRANCISTOWN:
See, just looking at this world is enough
for everyone to know that there is no
god in charge.

There you go claiming you were once a Christian yet you don't know that Satan is in charge of the affairs of this world {John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} according to God's word Satan is striving really hard to keep mankind in check but he couldn't because the method he started with has already failed from the beginning, he convinced humans that they can rule over themselves independently without God if they themselves assume the office of God {Genesis 3:4-5} so how can he set standards for them and expect them to live by such standards wholeheartedly when each of them feels like a God on his or her own?
That's where everything went wrong! Ecclesiastes 4:1; 8:9

FRANCISTOWN:
"The earth belongs to the sons of men"

YES, God gave it to men {Psalm 115:16} but not for humans to direct the steps of their fellow human because even each one needs God's guidance {Jeremiah 10:23} so it's impossible for them to rule themselves successfully!

You will learn a lot from true disciples of Christ if you continue with this thread!

Aemmyjah:
One important use of the brain is comprehension and I am sure you were taught in school on how to comprehend
I was talking about professing Love for God and it has to start from the heart
Is telling someone you love him just mere words like you're telling him the time OR a confession (true or false) from the heart?
You don't accept the bible but you quote from it to suit yourself

Ọmọ there is a big difference between telling God how you feel while talking to Him in your closet {Matthew 6:6} and showy display of affection just to impress onlookers! 2Timothy 3:5

Aemmyjah:
What more can we expect from people whose idealogy is that Life has no purpose, Future, no Hope?

They are victims of the REAL ATHEISTS!
If someone has been defrauded by those guys using the name of Jesus or God such a person will find it really hard to forgive God because they will be wondering where was He when the Yahoo big boys were using His name to defraud them!

FRANCISTOWN:
Good you brought Mat 12:34 upon yourself.
Your fellow JW guy said many people only confess God by mouth and not by heart.
But your Jesus said "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks"
Now who is lying?

All you need to do if you're sincere with yourself is ask what Jesus meant because the same Jesus said:

"This people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far removed from me. It is in vain that they keep worshipping me, for they teach commands of men as doctrines.’ Matthew 15:8-9

And

“For no fine tree produces rotten fruit, and no rotten tree produces fine fruit. For each tree is known by its own fruit. For example, people do not gather figs from thorns, nor do they cut grapes off a thornbush. A good man brings good out of the good treasure of his heart, but a wicked man brings what is wicked out of his wicked treasure; for out of the heart’s abundance his mouth speaks" Luke 6:43-45

If they praise God with their mouth as good but at the same time makes him appear to be partial doesn't that show you the type of person they're inwardly?

If so what happens to DEMON........CRAZY?

Aemmyjah:
Original sin is simply the sin that caused Man's fall. Simple as ABC

Many rebellious people just come to Nairaland thinking it's just by quoting the Bible that makes someone a believer.

Your conversation with that girl really make my day.

So Jesus has been prepared in the beginning for sacrifice even before Adam's rebellion?

Well what do you expect from rebellious people who despised Christ's brothers only to start reading the Bible by themselves thinking they can figure it all out without being taught!

AntiChristian:
Answered in and around 1914 to make JW the new world wide Christians!
I sabi una!

YES! If you're sincerely interested in what the scriptures say about God's organized people and what they will be doing in the endtime!

TenQ:
My Righteousness is in Christ ALONE: not in any organisation. Is that Evil?

Mere claim! Matthew 7:21-23
Faith without works! James 2:18-26

AntiChristian:
Jesus's prayer will never be answered till the world ends!

It has been answered!

Satan only initiate his own agents to gather his type of people (rebellious and lawless) into groups so what confuses unintelligent ones is that Satan's agents are also claiming Christians {2Corinthians 11:14} that's why Jesus said:

"By their fruits you will know them"

Jesus never killed anyone neither did his first century disciples so the fruit of Christianity is LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, KINDNESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

This is what it takes to do God's will so that a global family of peach loving worshipers may suffice! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

So no matter what they claim if they're not WORKING towards this goal then their so called faith is DEAD! James 2:18-26

Jesus' prayer his been answered that's why we now have a global family of peach loving worshipers in the new group name God now calls them: Jehovah's Witnesses! Isaiah 65:15

TenQ:
The Christian race is not a community affair: it is your personal relationship with Christ in Love, Obedience, Faithfulness, Service and Purity that matters. Run your race as you maximus will stand ALONE before Christ in judgemnt not with your organisation
Gal 6:4
But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in Himself alone and not in another
Unfortunately, you have replaced Christ with some old men in your headquarters: too bad. The scripture cannot be broken!

Continue with your self righteousness!

This idiot is seeking attention!

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

truly, you most dum false jw's/false prophets are also known by your fruits of lying, paranoia, and blasphemy, saying the Holy Spirit told you things that we know to be lies, etc.

lies:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

fearful paranoia:
rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.

blasphemy:
Mat 12:31 Therefore I say unto you, Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the Holy Spirit shall not be forgiven.
Mat 12:32  And whoever may speak a word against the Son of Man it will be forgiven to him, but whoever may speak against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in that which is coming.


false jw org. false prophets, by your fruits we certainly recognise you:
"Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:15-18

Rev_20:15  And if anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.

Can you quote just one verse where anyone had a PERSONAL relationship with Christ after his ascension to heaven?

Ọmọ the most educated and popular apostle was Paul, Jesus chose this man to become the apostle of the nations {Act 9:15; 1Timothy 2:7} but did he had a PERSONAL relationship with Jesus regarding teaching?
NO!
Jesus referred Paul to his COMMUNITY of believers {Act 9:6} that's why Paul relied on the OLDER men in Jerusalem for guidance and instructions on how to go about his apostolic assignment! Act 15:2; 16:3-4; Galatians 2:1

So stop deceiving yourself it's demons that's appearing to people claiming they're Jesus and demanding a PERSONAL relationship with them {2Corinthians 11:14-15} according to Jesus himself he won't have any PERSONAL relationship with anyone so it's until when they gather as a group that Jesus will come into their gathering as an unseen guest {Matthew 18:20} the only person any believer can have a PERSONAL relationship with is God that's why Jesus told us to pray PRIVATELY to God {Matthew 6:6} because we can have a PERSONAL relationship with His father but with Jesus
NO WAY!
It's only when we gather as a group that Jesus will come into our gathering if we are serious about what he commanded us in order to lead us in doing God's will as a group! Daniel 12:1

TenQ:
The Christian race is not a community affair: it is your personal relationship with Christ in Love, Obedience, Faithfulness, Service and Purity that matters. Run your race as you maximus will stand ALONE before Christ in judgemnt not with your organisation

Gal 6:4
But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in Himself alone and not in another

Unfortunately, you have replaced Christ with some old men in your headquarters: too bad. The scripture cannot be broken!

Were you invited?
Most people don't know what Christianity is all about, they just feel it's any religious center where Jesus' name is been called.
Real Christians must first of all preach to you and from their appearance you must have sensed some of their dos and donts but before you're invited to their worship center they must have been TEACHING you things you ought to know.
Well for your information the true Christians don't just expect you to walk into their gathering without invitation!

Merry100:
Even though I had to follow certain doctrines when I was younger, I have come to question some of them as they cannot be proven through the Bible. I am particularly curious about where the Bible specifically forbids wearing earrings. My parents are devout Christians, and they did not even pierce my ears, let alone allow me to wear earrings. However, one day I felt like wearing an earring, so I put on a magnetic earring and went out. Later in that day, I attended a Church program a friend invited me but when I got to the Church, I was asked to remove my earring or leave.

I am not trying to shade Christianity, not all Churches treat visitors that way, I was even surprised at the way I was treated that day. I am just specifically curious about where God condemned earring in the Bible? I accept that all Churches have their own doctrines but some of these Churches still use there doctrines to rate Christians from other Churches. Is wearing earring a sin or just some Church doctrines? I can't find any verse in the Bible that condemns earring. If you know any please indicate.

TenQ:
If you will, replace Christ with your old men at your headquarters, they will save you and give you your reward in paradise.

This are words Jesus said about those old men:

“Have no fear, little flock, for your Father has approved of giving you the Kingdom" Luke 12:32
The limited number {Revelation 14:1} will rule with Christ in heaven that's why he referred to them as his brothers:
"Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me." Matthew 25:40
Jesus is no longer here visibly so his brothers are the ones faithful people must be obedient and willing to work with if they want to be saved:
“Also, I say to you: Make friends for yourselves by means of the unrighteous riches, so that when such fail, they may receive you into the everlasting dwelling places." Luke 16:9
The highlighted are Born Again Christians who are Christ's spiritual brothers whoever doesn't make friend with them now can't see God's kingdom! Zechariah 8:23
Because they're the ones feeding Jesus' sheep in this last days {Matthew 24:45} so that we are zealously and industriously doing God's will without letup!

It's obvious arrogance won't allow you to gain salvation so i will leave you with you self righteousness! Isaiah 64:6