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Dtruthspeaker:
Now you prove that both jws and atheists are one and the same devils for you are the only ones who say this when christians point out that they have done an evil.

You mean those that rejected the command from Jesus to be harmless as doves shey? Matthew 10:16
I don hear you!

Dtruthspeaker:
Now I purposely patronized you to point out that devils are the only one who desperately market themselves like prostitutes and betnaija.

So Jesus must be the head of devils {Matthew 10:25} for sending his disciples to market what he taught them! Matthew 28:19-20

Dtruthspeaker:
2) Only devils condone and entertain a blasphemous bastard.

You don't even know the meaning of that word "BLASPHEMY" guy it doesn't apply to those who don't believe in the Bible but those who claims they believe yet speak against it.
For your information an atheist condemning the Bible is speaking his own mind against what he feels is unwarranted unlike you who is claiming believer in Christ yet kicking against the order from Christ. So in this case you are the blasphemer not unbelieving atheists!

johnw47:
yes by your fruits we recognise you:

Ọ̀DẸ̀!
If it's by prophecies then all your religions are FAKE because all of them have prophesied one way or another and it has failed.
So mumu its not about their prophecies but their fruits that is what their members in the community are known for.
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are actively preaching and teaching just like Jesus and his first century followers that's why they were called "CHRISTIANS" because they were going about doing what Jesus commanded! Matthew 28:19-20

Janosky:
Hebrews 1:1-2 & Acts 2:22-23,26 is truth in your Bible. Acts 2:22-23,26, Peter the apostle says Jesus Christ is a prophet ,Oga do you love this truth?
Jesus Christ is a Minister & spirit his Father sent from heaven to minister, according to Jesus @ John 7:16 & Matthew 20:28 & Paul the apostle @ Hebrews 1:14.
A minister is a messenger, angel.
Use the screenshot PROVEN evidences "aggelos" to cure your DELUSION.
Oga RECEIVE SENSE.
Yes, Jesus the Lamb of God..
Jesus is also a prophet,Acts 3:22-23.
Jesus is also an apostle.
Oga, you are insulting yourself.
Your four fingers are pointing back at you.

My brother they're terrified because they all know that only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing God's will so they're looking for ways to accuse God's people!

If they know the true identify of Jesus and they are sure he is not the archangel Michael who is leading God's people {Daniel 12:1-3} hen let them go and do God's will nah, all eyes are watching!

The prospect God has for mankind is Paradise on Earth {Psalm 37:9-11, 29} so faithful people are going to form one big and happy family of peach loving worshipers globally {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} and Jesus is the wonderful counselor {Isaiah 9:6} through whose teaching this will become a reality! Mark 10:28-30

Hen let them prove their FAITH by WORKS {James 2:18-26} that they know Jesus better than Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only organization of imperfect humans working towards God's plan.

At least all of them are claiming Christians and born again while Jehovah's Witnesses separated ourselves from them {Revelation 18:4} none of them can say his or her families in the faith aren't participating in the ongoing killings in Russia and Ukraine {Revelation 6:3-4} but we can boldly, confidently and boastfully say before anyone that not a single disciple of Christ Jesus is raising weapons against people in Russia and Ukraine {Matthew 26:52} because Jesus has commanded {Matthew 28:20} and his brothers (Born Again Christians) have taught us how to love our enemies even though they hate us {Matthew 5:43-48} how to love our neighbors as ourselves {Mark 12:31} and why we must be prepared to die for our fellow believers if the need arises just as Jesus did for us! John 13:34-35

So if they can't prove any of these it simply means they've been silenced as none of the missiles Satan gave them can harm our faith in Christ Jesus {Isaiah 54:17} it's needless arguing with them {Titus 3:9} it's obvious today those worshipping the true God of LOVE {1John 4:7-8} and those lying to their own souls! Malachi 3:18

Joychinonyerem:
The relationship we share as a church body is critical in promoting a sense of belonging, unity, and growth among believers

I completely agree with the highlighted because Jesus said about his disciples:

“I make request, not concerning these only, but also concerning those putting faith in me through their word, so that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in union with me and I am in union with you, that they also may be in union with us, so that the world may believe that you sent me. I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, so that the world may know that you sent me and that you loved them just as you loved me" John 17:20-23

Please are there members of Christ's church in Russia and Ukraine?
If so are they also part of those killing one another? John 15:19

delkuf:
guy park well. Which one be preaching or teaching. E dey una booklet, so una believe say angel Michael na the Lord Jesus Christ. So you guys agent of the devil

So where in the Bible did Jesus say it's by beliefs that you can identify agents of the devil?

Ọmọ beliefs are based on teachings and there are lots and lots of contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines in Christendom.
Just two out of all the sects claiming Christians don't have the same doctrine that's why Jesus never emphasized on doctrines when talking about how to identify agents of darkness.

This is what Jesus said:

"Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit." Matthew 7:15-18

So Mr park well, Jesus didn't say it's by teachings but by their fruits, only Jehovah's Witnesses are producing the fruit which is what Jesus and his disciples were known doing in the first century: preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighborhood! Act 11:26

If you want to talk about TEACHINGS find just two sects teaching exactly the same thing then explain why they're pitching tents separately!

TenQ:
Boo hoo!
1. And I can see you as a former Muslim unfortunately not even making the slightest attempt to lead Muslims to Jesus. If you have, let's see just one thread from you Hypocrite!
https://www.nairaland.com/7530442/gospel-explained-muslims
2. I am sure you don't know that:
Preaching to unbelievers is best done with a combination of practical Christian livestyle and explaining the gospel of salvation on One-on-One and Face to Face bases.
3. You have no idea of what goes on behind the scenes of Nairaland especially with Christians who have questions or need help and encouragement in passing through though times.
4. Of course, you don't have an idea of what goes on in my personal life in making of Disciples for Christ Jesus alone.
Continue your self delusion!
Oh, I forgot!
For you, it's not about Christ Jesus, it's all about making gullible proselytes of the old men in your headquarters.
It is painful to you that I can't submit to them when my Lord and Saviour is Christ Jesus! Sorry!!
A true Disciple of Christ lives like Christ in Love, Purity, Obedience and Service to Him and not to men.
For your information, my objective for most of my threads involving Muslims is
1. Education of Christians and Muslims
2. Exposure of Falsehood in Islam
3. Forcing Muslims to ASK necessary Questions about Islamic doctrines
4. Correction of errors of Islamic teachings about Christ Jesus, Christians and Salvation
Just as you Maximus have swallowed JW doctrines line hook and sinker without THINKING, Muslims have swallowed the doctrines of Mohammed line hook and sinker without THINKING . There is no difference.

I asked you a simple question:

What is the will (prospect) God has in plan for mankind?

All what you can say is self claims but i have explained what God's will means in that post.

Christianity is all about doing God's will and nothing more that's why Jesus emphasized on doing the will of God! Matthew 7:21

There's nothing wrong with Islam if i'm to place you on the same scale with Muslims each of them believe in the indoctrination of those who taught them just like you the only difference is your own teachers LIED that God's Holy Spirit is teaching them so you too are making the same claim.

You're just a self righteous religionist that's all. Isaiah 64:6

The assignment Jesus gave his disciples is to participate in doing God's will which is to form one big and happy family of peach loving worshipers globally. Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

That's what Jesus promised Peter and the others when they asked him:
“Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27
The reason they asked this question is because his teachings has broken families {Matthew 10:34-36} and almost all his disciples have been stigmatized in the first Jewish community for following him {John 9:22} so they need to know what will be there for them!
Jesus told them that they will surely have everlasting life but first the sign that will assure them they're on track is that through the assignment he gave them they will gain multiple folds of whatever they've lost for being his disciples! Mark 10:30
This is practical because through preaching and teaching all those accepting the faith will have the same line of thought with them {John 17:22} so they will become like one flock under one shepherd {John 10:16} hence everyone will know that they're truly disciples of Jesus of Nazareth! John 13:34-35

Today i have families in the faith both in Russia and Ukraine yes people are killing people and members of so many religions are involved in this killings but i can confidently, boastfully and proudly say before anyone that members of the house of faith in Christ Jesus aren't involved in this worldly affairs! John 15:19

WHY?

Because Jesus our Master, Lord and King has commanded and we have been taught by those taking the lead among us {Matthew 28:20} that we must love our enemies even though they hate us {Matthew 5:43-48} love our neighbors as ourselves {Mark 12:31} and be prepared to die for our fellow believers if the need arises! John 13:34-35

Can you also claim the same thing?
NO! Because you can't predict what those you call your brethren both in Russia and Ukraine can do in the face of politics!

Well that's what it means to be a true disciple of Jesus Christ who is doing God's will!

TenQ:
I am scared of any self appointed people standing as vicar or replacement of Jesus Christ in my life. May I never substitute the place of Christ for any man or any organisation.
Please, I am not stopping you o , you may do as you wish with men as with Christ!
In Christ alone I stand!

It's obvious you're for Christ as you're always here talking about one religion that has nothing to do with Jesus when you're supposed to be preaching about God's kingdom!

The will of God for mankind!


God created humans in His image and blessed them! Genesis 1:26-28
They're supposed to enjoy life on this planet with all the goodies prepared for them.
After the rebellion in the garden of Eden God allowed them to prove themselves if they can actually succeed in living happily without His guidance. God actually planned to allow for thousands of years so mankind can try all the system of government they could think of.
The first human dominator known as Nimrod wanted to keep all of them in a geographical location in contrast to what God planned for mankind to spread to all the earth. God confused their language and they spread to all the corners of the planet.

God's will is for the entire human race to become one global happy family {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} that's the purpose of calling Abraham and promising that through him a child will be born who will unite all obedient mankind globally.

No imperfect human can do that so Jesus will first break the curse that distance our Creator from us, that's what he did with the ultimate sacrifice he offered after that God poured out His Holy Spirit on all those that are ready to accept Jesus' counsel these people no matter where they come from have become God's children through that covenant! John 1:11-12

Through Jesus' wise counsel the will of God will be done but his disciples must teach people of all the nations what Jesus commanded {Matthew 28:18-20} as this teachings goes round the global family will be possible that's why Satan quickly began attacking Jesus' disciples in the first century but God's Holy Spirit has already began working so Satan's attack can't stop the movement {Matthew 16:18} that's why Satan changed to plan B: initiate his agents right in their midst {1John 2:18 compare to Matthew 13:25} this is the reason why many religions are coming up in the name of Jesus (including Islam)

But none of them can meet up with God's will because the spirit of God only work with those relying on Jesus' counsel! Matthew 7:16-18

So the will of God is what Jesus commanded his disciples to continue doing till the end of time {Matthew 28:20} no matter how nice, kind or friendly anyone can be if he's not connected to Jesus' disciples he can't do God's will because it's a movement of God's people from Egypt (world empire of false religions) to the promised land (Paradise on Earth)

That's the will of God!

TenQ:
Since to you obedience to Christ Jesus in Love, Purity and Service to Him is unimportant, you can as well Love, Obey and Serve your self appointed old men at your headquarters.

What do you have to teach,?
NOTHING but to be a companion of yours in serving your old men and their organisation.

Sorry, count me out!
Jesus is ENOUGH for me as my life is sworn and totally given to Him alone in Love, Purity, Obedience and Service to Him.

Any system that replaces Christ is the AntiChrist!

At least you have this as testimony that it's all about what Jesus Christ taught.
It's obvious you're scared of knowing the truth that will expose your ignorance that's why you keep proving arrogant to irritate me.

Maximus692:
I want to assure you that no matter the religion on this planet no single member can do God's will except only Jesus' disciples that's why the scriptures said all the inhabitants of this planet will perish except those believing in Jesus of Nazareth! John 3:16

TenQ:
I have told you what God's will is. Till tomorrow, you've not said what was wrong with the answers I gave you. And I asked you the same question which of course you and you Said: "I don't claim anything .." If you can't claim ANYTHING how then can I come to YOU to learn.

Please i don't want to upset you further, claims totally differs from doing God's will, i already gave you expo from Jesus' comments but it's like you're not feeling comfortable with the whole thing that's why i stepped back to allow you.
My question is do you truly truly sincerely want to know what God's will is?
I won't just make claims but you and i will find out the answer from God's word as we both dig deeper into the scriptures.
I want to assure you that no matter the religion on this planet no single member can do God's will except only Jesus' disciples that's why the scriptures said all the inhabitants of this planet will perish except those believing in Jesus of Nazareth! John 3:16
Do you want us to do this together?
It's not what i can do alone but both of us will have to find out the answer as a pair of Bible scholars so don't think i'm here to rubbish you, NO i love to be your friend because i can see the zeal in you except a trait that's not fine but that we will keep aside for now!

TenQ:
You haven't displayed any iota of knowledge for me to subscribe to you as Rabbi.

What if I told you to come and learn from me, what would be your response?
Wouldn't you ask if there is ANYTHING you don't know that I have as knowledge?

It's the more reason you cannot answer my questions.



Have you shown yourself not to be a false teacher

2Pet 2:1:
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privately shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction."

Just like Muslims, you want me to accept you and your doctrines without asking questions.

Does this make sense?

Jesus said:

‭‭“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven." Matthew 7:21

At a point in his lifetime he prayed saying:


“Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.” ‭‭Luke‬ ‭22:42‬

Seems Jesus is ever ready to bury his own will so that his father's will takes place.

So all i asked you is "What is God's will?"

But if you feel you've known what i have in mind it's OK let's leave it at that!

It's OK since you haven't seen any reason to learn from me please don't be upset continue with what you're doing!

TenQ:
In other words you are exactly like the Muslims
Why reject my claims of what Jesus said to me as one of His followers?
You should be humble enough to learn from the Muslims, so that you can be as brainwashed as they are in kissing the black stone and bowing to the cube at Mecca!
Just be humble enough and you'll see that you'll become the best Muslim around you: you might even convert your wife to Islam.
If you were humble enough, you would have listened to Joseph Smith's doctrine and learn from Him.
I am sure you don't even know why you are not being humble enough to learn about OOO and the Brotherhood of the cross and Star.
I challenge you to your Face:
State the Will of God I have misquoted or missed here in this post if you are NOT a LIAR!
Your only problem with me is that I am NOT following your JW leadership.
Unfortunately for you,
I follow no man not group: Jesus is my Guide, my Saviour and Lead!
I am not surprised you cannot answer these Questions
Mr Maximus, I ask you exactly this same questions
1. What is the EVIDENCE that you are not one of the workers of Iniquity?
2. What is the will of God that really matters
3. What makes you different from a Muslim?
Let me see if it's all about Jesus or about a cult of a group!

Shantyken:
It should be a two way thing irrespective of religion because to me i think on the last day be ye Christians, Muslims, Jewish etc if u are not doing the will of God we all will be judge accordingly.

There is no way anyone can do God's will except he or she becomes one of the disciples of Christ! John 14:6

That's why it's very very important to know the will of God!

It makes no sense!
The best place to get a future partner is within members of your own faith!

Thanks for your time, it's a pleasure chatting with you. I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and our teachings is the ultimate in our hearts as no other teachings succeeded in achieving the will of God as recorded in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3

"In the final part of the days, The mountain of the house of Jehovah Will become firmly established above the top of the mountains, And it will be raised up above the hills, And to it all the nations will stream. And many peoples will go and say: “Come, let us go up to the mountain of Jehovah, To the house of the God of Jacob. He will instruct us about his ways, And we will walk in his paths.” For law will go out of Zion, And the word of Jehovah out of Jerusalem. He will render judgment among the nations And set matters straight respecting many peoples. They will beat their swords into plowshares And their spears into pruning shears. Nation will not lift up sword against nation, Nor will they learn war anymore"

That's what God wants for mankind and Jesus is the only counselor {Isaiah 9:6} through whose teachings mankind can meet up with this task.

So if anyone claims he knows God but failed to be part of those preaching zealously and industriously teaching in his neighbourhood to achieve this then we believe that all his claims and beliefs are trash! Matthew 7:21-23

So once again thanks for your time.
May you have PEACE!

ErnestNc:
I haven't decided anything sir but I just chose not to engage in baseless arguments which setttles nothing. My original post is my unwavering opinion. I strongly detest false doctrines and the spirit of God bears witness within me when I hear something false even with individuals outside the sphere of religion.
The only thing I have against JWs is their multiple false doctrines and one is their unconscious effort to debase the person of Jesus by relegating him to being just an ordinary being or an angel when it was made clear through John's testimony in the scriptures, that all things were made by him (John1) and his preincarnate form was the WORD in the beginning and not an angelic being. Secondly, y'all deny the power of God and the grace of God which is the spirit of God indwelling in a man. You deny that the Holy spirit can speak to us and guide us , instead you call it spiritism and the voice of Satan. You deny anything that has to do with the holy spirit. You alienate yourselves from the kingdom(influence) of God , saying that you can't be born again because you're not worthy of God's sacrifice. Meanwhile Jesus said he that is thirsty should come and he will give him life (the spirit of God). I will never engage anyone of you JW's in baseless arguments because it's not worth it. Just as Muslims believe in Mohammed, you disbelieve in the Spirit of God and say it's the right way of life. Hence, I cannot disillusion you, neither will I persuade you. If you still think Jesus's preincarnate form is not the WORD OF GOD but angel Michael, I shake my head in pity and agony for you because your redemption O' SON OF MAN, IS FAR!

TenQ:
I almost converted to Islam as an adult because I studied Islam thanks to Ahmed Deedat and co. I am not as naive as you think.
When you were a Muslim, did you know Jesus as
1. Your Saviour and Lord?
2. Do you follow Jesus or Mohammed's teachings?
3. Did Jesus die on the stake? Did He resurect from the dead?
There is no Scholar of Islam that agree with you. Whatever a Muslim says that is not in the Qur'an nor the Sunnah is a BIG FAT LIE!

Islam is about the five pillars and none says a Muslim shouldn't believe in other prophets. It's different scholars and clerics claiming Muslims that determine what majority among Muslims does not what each individual choose to do after studying the Quran personally.
So just as you too may decide what you want to believe apart from the various institutions claiming churches with their pastors a Muslim can also choose to be independent of group setting and conclude based on his personal conviction regarding Jesus of Nazareth.
My guy don't run to conclusions that all professed Muslims have the same line of thought regarding faith in Jesus of Nazareth it's only those following group settings under some fanatic clerics. Just as members of some groups despises others in Christendom!

TenQ:
You asked ME a Question to which you yourself do not know the Answer. Is this not hypocritical?

Ọmọ i just told you what Jesus said:

It's not about claims saying you're this or you're that {Luke 18:11} rather it's all about doing God's will! Matthew 7:21
So i asked you again: What is God's will?
Remember Jesus emphasized on this than any other thing you can think of, in fact he gave up his own opinion and desires just to do God's will {Luke 22:42} so my friend:
What is God's will?

TenQ:
Mr Maximus, I ask you exactly this same questions
1. What is the EVIDENCE that you are not one of the workers of Iniquity?
2. What is the will of God that really matters
3. What makes you different from a Muslim?
Let me see if it's all about Jesus or about a cult of a group!

Guy as long as you're not humble to learn i will leave you to continue deceiving yourself after all i've made it clear to any sincere and honest hearted follower of this thread that you're just playing around if you don't know the will of God!

But if you care to know try and rephrase your question i'm willing to guide you on how to know and do God's will!

TenQ:
Just check:
Can ANY Muslim make my claims?
If they can, show me just one example.
At they same time, what is your own CLAIM?
I've stated mine with scriptures to back it up
What is/are your own claims?

My guy you don't know anything about Muslims what you're here doing is picking at straws because i was once a Muslim and i've met Muslims who also lay exactly the same claims you're making.
Believe in Jesus, name written in book of life, obeying Jesus' command, having the seal of God and so on just as you're claiming because they have read both the Bible and Quran, they want to belong to both sides, whatever is good that's found in the Bible and the Quran they will claim!
So it's not about claim but knowing and doing God's will!
That's what Jesus emphasized {Matthew 7:21-23} not just claims!

I don't claim anything what i know is God's will for mankind and how to do it! Matthew 21:28-31

Anybody can make the same claims so what is the difference between you and a Muslim who makes the same claim?

TenQ:
What makes me special!?

1. I was Redeemed and Bought with a costly price therefore I glorify God in my body as one who serves God
1Cor 6:20: "For you are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's."
1Cor 7:23: "You are bought with a price; be not you the servants of men."

2. I obey ONLY the One (Christ) who bought me with His Blood by Obeying His commandments of Love, Purity and Service to God and do not replace Him with ANY persons, groups or organisations
Rom 6:16: "Know you not, that to whom you yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey; whether of sin to death, or of obedience to righteousness?"


3. My name is written in the Book of life by Greece through my faith in Christ.
Phil 4:3: "And I entreat you also, true yoke fellow, help those women which labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellow laborers, whose names are in the book of life."
1Jn 5:20: "And we know that the Son of God is come, and has given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life."

4. I have the Seal of the Father, the Holy Spirit.
2Cor 1:22: "Who has also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts."
Eph 1:13: "In whom you also trusted, after that you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that you believed, you were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,"


Calling Jesus Lord means nothing except Jesus Himself know you treat him as LORD and not an organisation or yourself or anything else.
If Jesus is your LORD, you will follow Him by living your life according to His commandments in LOVE, PURITY and SERVICE to Him.

Meanwhile something happened in Israel just of recent the countries flag was thrown down by a black crow!

Judaism and Islam are the two major religions in Israel while different sects claiming Christians are less than 5% of the population so they passed a bill to outlaw anyone who is talked about Jesus saying he is their Messiah.

None of these religions have any issue with the flag, national anthem or pledge so they're all on the same page!

But Christ taught his own disciples not to allow for discrimination among them, they must love all believers in Christ just as he love them! John 13:34-35

With this command true Christians can't be loyal to Nationalistic movements which often leads to wars and killings {Revelation 6:3-4} the first century Jews believe Romans are their enemies but Jesus commanded his own disciples to love even their enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} that's why Israelites hate Christianity till today.

Of all the religions claiming Christians now only Jehovah's Witnesses are still practicing what Jesus commanded back then that's why we don't join in Nationalistic movements or politics. The bill to outlaw Christians in Israel wasn't just against churchgoers but against Jehovah's Witnesses who are there because if everyone is a Jehovah's Witnesses nobody will fight their wars. So the crow throwing down their flag is a sign that they're about to touch the servants of the true God in their midst so the flag means nothing to God because it's pure idolatry even though they don't know that's why Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon wanted to kill Shadrach Meshak and Abednego as they refused to salute the image he raised up today it's the flag!

TenQ:
Like I said:
A claim by anyone or any group mean NOTHING!
Mat 7:22-23:
"Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in your name ? and in your name have cast out devils? and in your name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess to them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity."

A claim by anyone mean NOTHING!

So where is the evidence that you are not one of the WORKERS OF INIQUITY?

Muslims have high regard for Jesus and they believe he is God's sent just as those Jesus prayed for {John 17:8-9} so calling Jesus Lord! Lord! doesn't make you special in any way than they are. Matthew 7:21

So what is the WILL of God that really matters?

As long as ErnestNc is no longer responding my job is done here.
Like Saul he was castigating God's organization based on his own understanding of the scriptures {Act 7:58; 9:1 compare to Galatians 1:13} he called for this and each of you have given your opinion on the matter just as Jews in the first century always call the crowd against true Christians {Act 14:2; Exodus 23:1-2} with all your contribution he must have made up his mind on what to do.
One thing that's certain is that there is a great chasm between practicers of pure worship and faithless miscreants {Luke 16:26} though i've talked about it several times on this forum but today i will expatiate for the benefit of honest hearted and sincere individuals who are following this thread.

So what exactly is this CHASM set up between practicers of pure worship and faithless miscreants?

Well it's the opinion that if God is one then there can't be two different religions worshipping that single God!

A person may be a traditionalist, Judaist, Hindu, Muslim or any other religion what Christ sent us to find out are those believing they have the one and only religion approved by God, this are the lost sheep of the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} they're ever willing to submit themselves to those taking the lead in pure worship {Hebrews 13:7, 17} so even if everyone thinks they're wrong what matters to them is loyalty to the God of pure worship so they don't practice interfaith (idea that religions are like various roads leading to the same place) they're strictly focused on what they believe.

So if anyone doesn't want to hear that one God can't be worshipped in different ways he or she is on one side of the CHASM while the one who strongly believe that there is no other way to worship God except one is on the other side of the CHASM.

The five brothers in Jesus' illustration of Lazarus and the rich man is all about different religions with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines all agreeing that they're worshipping the same God despite the fact that they're not in agreement.

Lazarus simply means individuals who has been loyal to false religions {rich man} going to beg for crumbs falling from their tables of lies while the sours in his body are losses he has incurred due to misdirected zeal. So when such a person now finds pure worship it's like he's dead to all his suffering because God (father Abraham) will bless him so much that the rich man who formerly use to feed this beggar will start to hunger and thirst for him to say something because they will know from the deepest part of their hearts that this person has received talents that's beyond their reach. But instead of them to believe that he has found the way to salvation they will be demanding for supernatural signs {Luke 16:30} but if they don't believe the fine works of faith surely they won't believe even though Max is performing signs in their presence! Luke 16:31

So to ErnestNc who asked go through all the comments on this thread, meditate thoroughly on what each person has been typing, find out where faith is and decide on what to do.

God bless you all and may you have PEACE!

Mikel99:
Janosky
MaxIntheHouse
Righteousness
TenQ
Truthfulness
I need your good opinions on this matter.

The answer is NO!

Satan and his demons are the ones making it all up to mislead people {Revelation 12:9} when people die the only hope is resurrection we all live once! Hebrews 9:27

Dtruthspeaker:
You verily heard "if I testify of myself my witness is not true". John 5:31.

So stop calling anyone "SINNER" for disagreeing with you on the matter of faith because all have sinned! Romans 3:23

I purposely dragged you to this point because you were making a flux out of what you don't understand.

Christians are supposed to speak calmly to unbelievers no matter what they say or do about our faith. We only frown at those professing believers but turning against laid down rules guiding me faith {2Corinthians 11:12-13 compare to 2Timothy 3:5} but unbelievers who don't see any reason with faith we must treat them with love and respect! 1Peter 3:15

johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

but not you, you just use another account when banned which is against forum rules,
which is one form of lawlessness:

Mat_7:23  "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'

1Jn_3:4  Everyone who practices sin also practices lawlessness; and sin is lawlessness.

So it's on Nairaland that your own lawlessness applies shey?
What about calling your neighbor "mad" after days you've had arguments?

Guy you need to take your medicine!

Femi8586:
What does he do that makes him fake. Prove it. Una go just dey lay allegations without evidence. Till today, folks like you still haven't been able to prove any allegations against him.

It must interest you that i'm not just one of the misinformed churchgoers around you laying false allegations.
TB Joshua is one of religious title chiefs in Nigeria {Matthew 23:8-10} He gathers people only for them to contribute money so that he decides how the money is spent whereas the purpose of Christianity is to make them preachers going to preach in all their neighbourhood {Matthew 10:11-13} that's what the founder of Christianity laid down not just doing what people likes but doing things according to the arrangement Jesus Christ laid down.
That's why he said "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} so if TB Joshua can't lead by going from house to house and helping his members to do the same then his establishment has nothing to do with Christianity what people noticed in Antioch that made them call Jesus' disciples CHRISTIANS is their activities which was the same with what the msn called Christ laid down! Act 11:26
So you can see now that all those claiming pastors are also FAKE not just TB Joshua.
They ought to make disciples who will be preaching zealously and industriously teaching in all their neighbourhood not just going to sing, clap and dance in a place then return home, that's not the purpose for which Christ Jesus commissioned the movement called Christianity.
Thanks

This is the fourth time my account is barred this last few days but when it happens to others they will start looking for someone to blaim!

TenQ:
What is important is to live your life as a true disciple of Christ in Purity , Love and Service to God.

ANYONE who does NOT follow Christ in these three above is NOT of Christ.

Many Muslims will tell you they're doing just so because he's a prophet of God and whoever doesn't believe him is not a complete believer!

New reaching me now!

Crows are tearing down Israeli flags, though they may not know why but it's because they're planning to attack pure worship.

Flags are detestable to the true God, true Christians don't salute flags because it promotes hatred among people and politicians depends on it to incite people against one another in the name of nationalism!

Dtruthspeaker:
So in your skewered mind the Pharisees are not sinners eh?
Further, thank God that the record shows that I never claimed righteousness. So this is you being a devil making false accusation because you can not justify your sins.

Are you also a sinner like these people you're cursing on this thread?

Because if you've been calling them sinners and accusing me a JW for speaking peacefully with them, then what are you insinuating?

Those people are churchgoers not Christians!

Gradually the era of churchgoing facing out because it came from political white supremacists not real Christians that's why countries that brought churchgoing to Africa are no longer interested in the scam but true disciples of Christ has been separated from the churchgoers they have formed one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers globally! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

News reaching me from Israel now says Jews are having issues with eagles tearing their flag because they're planning to attack true disciples of Christ in Israel. True disciples of Christ don't salute their flags nor recite national anthem that's why they're planning to attack true disciples of Christ just as Russia did but hardly did they know that the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is preserving that place not because of the Jews but because true disciples of Christ are doing the endtime work. So if they try to hinder them they will see the wrath of God!

Dtruthspeaker:
Thank God you pointed out "To Call" and not that He Smiled and laughed as He Saw them sinning as proven by His scattering of the traders tables in the temple.

He did not peacefully speak to those sinners. He rebuked them sharply and threw down their business. (And of course the owners of those businesses will surely want Him killed.)

That is also a foundation He laid!

OK he did not speak peacefully with sinners, shey?

Ọmọ your arrogance won't help you now.

The people Jesus rebuked aren't the sinners he came to call rather it's the Pharisees like you claiming they're righteous:

The Pharisee stood and began to pray these things to himself, ‘O God, I thank you that I am not like everyone else—extortioners, unrighteous, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. Luke 18:11

As for the sinners he spoke peacefully wit them telling them they will be blessed if they're willing to act on his message:

Blessed are the poor in spirit: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.
Blessed are they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake:, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil,, against you falsely, for my sake. Matthew 5:3-12

Regarding these sinners Jesus told his disciples:
Come ye after me, and I will make you to become fishers of men. Mark 1:17

Are you going to preach to people who are already interested in some church program?
If so then you're not preaching but snatching members of other churches.
But if you're to preach then you must be ready to speak peacefully with people who feels what your religion says is stupid.
That's when you can prove to be a fisher of men!

Spindletop:
You are also a FAKE prophet and pagan for criticising a man of GOD. JUDGE not that ye may not be judged

Do you know the meaning of JUDGE in Israel?

Ọmọ it simply means stoning a sinner to death not saying what you know regarding right and wrong!