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Emusan:
You can imagine! See how he boldly lied that he defended Jesus actually returned to this planet Earth in 1914 :DWhen I showed him Matt 24:26-27 he went ghost mode. That's the best he can do, boasting on his ignorance but when confronted with Bible verses he will switch to another format.

As he dey pain unah nah so he dey sweet us!

You people have what your pastors are teaching you but you're not contented with it it's always what JWs are teaching that's your problem whereas two out of all your churches aren't teaching the same thing because if they do there is no need pitching tents separately.

Our leaders taught us that Jesus returned in the year 1914 just as Jesus' disciples taught those listening to them that the Christ has come and gone in the first century.

The only evidence Jesus' disciples had back then is fulfilled prophecies that time exactly the same thing Jehovah's Witnesses have as evidence today that fulfilment of prophecies from 1914 till now is evidence that Jesus has returned.

So i don't know why you people are so worried about JW's teachings if you're fully convinced of what your teachers are teaching you!

ErnestNc:
Sense will not finish you 🤣🤣

Hen nah!
I am Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses the one and only group having fully competent and completely equipped preachers and teachers of God's word unlike you people who claim you're Christians but can't defend what you think you know!
So go and keep what you know so that i also keep mine at least each person agree God exist and that he is worshiping God it's our understanding that differs. So if you will not humbly request for what i believe then there's no need talking as if someone is wrong!

bobestman:
Christ taught that, where? Or you should say you don't understand. Spirit and truth is secret. Untill he returns and restore his ppl and the temple, worship in secret. Anything else is a waste of time. The temple of God Almighty is within you. Be led by the spirit within you not false teachers who know nothing. That part of you that was their when the corruption began is the only one who can guide you right. Your books has errors. Your teachers, itching ears. They don't know neither do they understand.

You're totally confused, you want to cut off the role of TEACHERS yet you want to TEACH others!

Jesus confirmed that the Jews were right when they say Jerusalem is where everyone supposed to worship:

The woman asked “Sir, I see that you are a prophet. Our forefathers worshipped on this mountain, but you people say that in Jerusalem is the place where people must worship.”  Jesus said to her: “Believe me, woman, the hour is coming when neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem will you worship the Father. You worship what you do not know; we worship what we know, because salvation begins with the Jews." John 4:19-22

The underlined Jesus confirmed that Jerusalem is the only place God approved for worship but the time is coming when it will no longer be so!

Spirit and truth means in the same line of thought and according to God's purpose!

ErnestNc:
Is angel Michael the Christ and Messiah?
Yes or no?

Let me throw your own comment back at you:

ErnestNc:
You came for dispute and not to learn.
You want to patronise me.
When I see teachable people I know.

So if you want to LEARN that's not how to go about it.
You supposed to say:

"Please help me with the scriptural backing which convinced you that Jesus is the same as Archangel Michael"

Ọmọ no be gra-gra after all you've seen how efficacious i defended the fact that Jesus returned to this planet in the year 1914.
So you now know that it's not just them say, therefore if you want to learn you must humbly ask. I'm a fully competent disciples studying the Bible with many who are old enough to be your grandpa!

bobestman:
You keep shouting lies when everything is very clear even in your bible. Your problem is that you lack understanding and hate correction. That is why Jw could easily spoonfeed and brainwash you. Jerusalem is like Mecca. Their are ppl who guide and work their including the priests. It is in a far place so ppl don't go their everyday. Ppl gather their when their are events like feasts, passover (once a year) etc. This doesn't mean ppl can't go their to pray personally or to see a priest. Your ignorance is why you call truth lies and why you will remain a slave to JW's who know nothing. You also don't know what true worship is and teaching. The messiah taught in temples but worshipped the father secretly in bushes. True worship is sth b/w you and the father only and thus secret. Even in temples they pray secretly to the father

Guy stop lying to your own detriment.

Jesus confirmed that Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship but from his own time onwards God has approved the gathering of faithful people anywhere they gather.
So it's not just anywhere whether in the old testament or new it's only in the gathering of faithful people that God accepts worship not in isolation.
That's the significance of Jerusalem as faithfuls gather as one family!

Emusan:
On the forum you design or the one Watchtower form
Don't deviate Mr
Since you're now claiming to be a Christian, is JWs among 41,000 sects claiming Christians with contradictory teachings?
That was a simple question.
Smile...
Says someone who doesn't have rest of mind and changing moniker up and down

Mo ti gbàgbé pé ẹlẹ́tẹ̀ ni ẹ́, tóò bá tíì tẹ́ kìí ti ẹ lọ́rùn.

So keep on asking! Matthew 7:7-8

Emusan:
And JWs is among those 41,000 different sects claiming Christians with contradictory teachings. Or are you not a Christian anymore?

Why not calm down and allow two persons talk nah?
Must you always trail JWs up and down?

bobestman:
Where did he tell you that before worship was not done in secret? Do you even understand what worship means? The hebrews worship in their homes. But once a year during passover they go to the temple at Jerusalem - 1 Sam 1:3&6. Remember their is only one temple. In John 4 you are reading from, Samaritans worship on mountains and Jews in Jerusalem. The messiah answered her cos he knew that the temple will be destroyed and they all will be sacked and ppl will worship the father from their homes (spirit and truth). Ppl worshipped in spirit and truth even in the days of the temple cos the father is everywhere. Their are ppl who might not be able to go to Jerusalem for some reasons during feasts or passover. They worship at their homes. Temple woship is often

Guy i don't gbadun liar at all stop lying nah!
If they can worship anywhere then what is the significance of Jerusalem in Judaism?

ErnestNc:
angel Michael is the Christ!

Just ask for what you don't know because there are over 41,000 different sects all claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines.
So singling one out shows you've noticed how faithful and dedicated the adherents of this faith are unlike those faithless miscreants around you!

@ crows2ravens

I'm not here for any of these people so:

Instead of asking me to go back doing what i have done already you should ask any questions that comes to your mind

Including the ones they're raising if you want to know because i won't respond to any of their posts here!

crows2ravens:
No you don't stand alone!
You are in the same class with the Latter Day Saints and Seventh Day Adventists, yet with contradictions too.
Kindly check your history well. I don't want to say much. Until you question everything men have taught you and seek the truth personally, don't bet your faith on anything.

Ọmọ if you're faithless like your friends on this thread don't think Maximus is on the same page with you guys!

For your information i was born a Muslim and it took me more than twenty years before i was fully convinced that Jesus is truly the only begotten Son of God through the intensive teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses.

I first met those criticizing them known as the apostates (ex-jws) who have left the organization but because i worked with the intelligence i questioned all of them but only JWs were calmly responding to all my questions in fact that's why i left Islam because i questioned those teaching us until they got fed up.

So instead of asking me to go back doing what i have done already you should ask any questions that comes to your mind but be rest assured that no matter what religion anyone belongs to presently if he strongly believe in One God and one source of divine guidance such a person will eventually end up becoming one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Therefore if you're not such a person forget it you're not our type!

ErnestNc:
This is a known fact. But you addressed me like one who is an unbeliever, hence my question.

Of course you're an unbeliever because they don't dispute what the majority they like agree to it's only things they dislike that they will not like to believe even though there are scriptural and social proofs!

If you say you believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah but you were never there to witness what his disciples penned down what proof do you have other than the fact that majority you like have accepted what Jesus' disciples wrote?

I believe that Jesus of Nazareth is the promised Messiah not because of the conviction of his disciples but the story of his life how it fulfilled the prophecy regarding the Messiah in an accurate way.

John the baptist heard from God that the Christ will come for baptism and God's Holy Spirit will descend on him {John 1:33} and it happened exactly as God told John the baptist {Matthew 3:16} despite all these John still doubt if Jesus is the promised Messiah, so he sent his disciples to go and ask Jesus! Matthew 11:2-3

Please what on earth could have prompted John the baptist to doubt Jesus' authenticity?

Well it's due to wrong expectations!

John knew through the prophecies that the Christ will come and establish righteous rule throughout the earth {Daniel 2:44} and during his reign the righteous will flourish! Psalms 72:7

If that is true then why is John a righteous man and prophet of God arrested and imprisoned when the Christ is around?

So what response did Jesus gave John who was anticipating a release by the King of kings if truly Jesus is the promised Messiah?

Well Jesus only told John's disciples to go and tell John what they're seeing which are the part of the prophecies that Christ will fulfill at that point in time {Matthew 11:4-5 compare to Isaiah 35:5-6; 61:1} in fact Jesus added that John should be careful not to stumble due to wrong expectations.

So if we JWs believe that Jesus is around since 1914 and we're pointing to the WORKS he is doing using imperfect humans today whatever you choose to think, say or do doesn't matter to us because we know that's how people like you criticized Jesus' disciples who also claim that the Christ has come in the first century! Matthew 5:11-12

ErnestNc:
Who's is disagreeing that Jesus isn't Christ

Millions of Jews living in Jerusalem today and millions of Jews who lived in Jerusalem during Jesus' lifetime disagreed Sir, in fact they will tell you that Jesus and his disciples were scammers!

JWs stands alone that's why nobody here could boldly speak of any church or doctrine as unique whereas we all know that churches of Christendom are contradicting themselves over teachings and doctrines.

johnw47:
Job_15:12  Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
lost false jw mad max narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition in which people have an unreasonably high sense of their own importance a pathological liar tells lies and stories that fall somewhere between conscious lying and delusion. They sometimes believe their own lies

Comparing the highlighted with the rest of your post one can easily notice that you're not normal. The writer you're trying to quote spoke the current language his audience can understand before it was translated to English so if you're in your right senses you should know that the translator tried his best to make his own contemporaries grasp the message of the original writer but you are now quoting the 15th century English in the 21st century yet you haven't figured out that something is wrong with you!

movid:
Is it right for a christian to collect money from a politician to vote?

Are you a Christian?

We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, the one and only group worshiping the true God.
If anyone knows a better performing group let him or her present so we can compare and contrast anything aside from that is NOISE!

JEHOVAH our God is not omnipresent!

His conversation with Abraham in the Bible book of Genesis 18:20-21 is evidence of this fact!

Padipadi:
Let there be peace. Respect each other's religion.I see. Let there be peace. Respect each other's religion.

He is a liar who always look for ways to hide from the truth but the wicked can only run there is no hiding place for the wicked!
Below is the post he quoted where i didn't even mention him or his religion:

Maximus692:
The one and only King God intended to install for a thousand years is Jesus Christ.
So from Genesis to Revelation all the messages in the Bible is pointing to one thing: God's government under a perfect ruler CHRIST!
That's what King David who happens to be the man after God's heart prophesied about: the coming anointed King (CHRIST)
David said:
Jehovah declared to my Lord: “Sit at my right hand Until I place your enemies as a stool for your feet.” Psalms 110:1
Any human King that God has a dealing with is just to foreshadow what God's anointed King will achieve globally when he is installed as the anointed (Christ) to rule over mankind for a thousand years then later subjects himself to his father and God! 1Corinthians 15:27-28
So after the Christ has been introduced by the first century Jewish disciples of Jesus whoever comes into politics is working directly for Satan whose plan has nothing to do with God's Kingdom! John 14:30; 2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19
May you have PEACE!

That's the indisputable fact he couldn't bare so saying i mentioned Islam or Muhammad is just a cover up. We have both agreed not to mention each other again.
So if he wants peace tell him never ever to mention me or come to criticize my post, i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses doesn't mean he has the right to come quoting me out of context, anytime he does that i will continue to prove to him that his god is DEAD!

Padipadi:
It's so tough trying to know the issue btw you and Lukuluku69.Hope no problem?

When I'm talking about the living God he often raise issue of his dead god even though i have warned him times without number that his Allah totally differs from my God.
So anytime he comes around i do prove to him (politely) that his god is DEAD!

Lukuluku69:
So, Abraham, Moses, Solomon, David are not worshipper of Jehovah because they kill o?
Your Jesus when he comes back to kill all non worshippers of him and his Dad will be killed too? Why can't Jehovah and his son change their heart? Or Jehovah take delight and Jesus take delight in killing? Omo that your kingdom hall na something else, no wonder you guys were hounded out of most countries in Europe when Europe was still religious. Continue living in your grand delusion o

This is where wisdom comes in!

JEHOVAH is the only person who can order a person to be killed because He is the CREATOR so no matter what a person believes it's not ours to judge (kill) the person.
That aside then think of someone who now lift up weapons against God's servants as in those you know are worshipers of your own God!

That's what Jehovah's Witnesses will never do as long as we're in our right senses!

Michael548:
Yes

Jesus is right always!

He said we will have the same line of thought! John 17:22

Glory be to our father in heaven.
Good afternoon my brother!

Lukuluku69:
Or Jesus to kill all those who doesn't worship him? When is that going to be? Oh I remember! When he finally decide to stay considering the fact that your Elders told you he came in 1914 to book hotel/residency. Lol
You guy are irredeemably lost. An attempt to redirect your steps always lead to a deeper dug in from you lots. No wonder that guy took a gun and took some Six miserable souls (excluding the baby) with him in Germany.

So worshipers of Jehovah must not kill! Exodus 20:13

No matter what people believes it's not our right to kill them!

Dangig:
Maximus692 /MaxInDHouse /AkinwaleJjj, Okay.

Na me be Maximus692 and na me be MaxInDHouse but AkinwaleJJ belongs to my wife.
Now answer: are you not the same person behind those three accounts:
Oteneaaron, Courz, Dangig?

Don't worry your attitude will expose you!

Lukuluku69:
Oderinde, you warned who?
Stop pushing Tripe and warped Teachings on a Public Forum! Very simple.
Limit your nonsensically warped Doctrines and Tortured interpretation to your Kingdom Halls you won't hear Ogbeni Akinwale the unintelligent intelligence officer.
Like I told you, once I see a clanger, I will draw your attention to it.
How many of you carrying Leathers bags around under the scorching Sun have the Faith of Abraham?
You can as well stop the reply/mentions now, then when the next clanger comes, you will see my mention.

Anyone having Abraham's fath will never raise a weapon against the worshiper of Jehovah!

That's what all those people you mentioned will never do. Jesus said he will come back and kill all those who doesn't want to worship God but Jesus can never ever raise his hand against a worshiper of his God and Father.

That's the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob!

Dangig:
Maximus692 /MaxInDHouse /AkinwaleJjj, from your response, your answer is No. Your Governing body are more special than you JWs. Sign of a Cult number 5.
Can Truth be found outside your religion?

Oteneaaron/ Courz/ Dangig

If you dey ask me, na who i go ask?

Dangig:
Maximus692 /MaxInDHouse /AkinwaleJjj I thought you don't argue with Faithless people? Then answer this question : Do your Governing body get disfellowshipped like you ordinary JWs when they break your rules?

Question from oteneaaron/ Courz/ Dangig! Matthew 7:7-8

Lukuluku69:
So, according to you or should I say your Church Elders non of Jacob's Descendants never worshipped Jehovah? Since Jehovah limited himself to just being the "God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob" he is not the God of David, Solomon, Moses and others since they are Jacob's Descendants and according to you Mr. Akinwale being called "God of Israel is different from God of Israelites"? It is safe to say that after Jacob, no other person worshipped Jehovah amongst the Israelites?
Your ridiculousness is of humongous proportion. At your age and taunted exposure you still think like this?
Continue o

I have warned you to stop quoting me if you don't want the truth to torment you so my guy you asked for it!

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are only the people Jehovah attached His name to. Your name can also enter His memory book if you imitate the faith of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob no matter where you come from but even if you're Jacob's first son you are nothing before Jehovah if you don't have the same faith like Abraham! John 8:40

Course/Dangig

Well done o!

oteneaaron:
Hahahahahahahaha
Is this the best you can do?
Dangig is Oteneaaron just as Courz is Oteneaaron right?
It is quite obvious that I give you literal nightmares.
You still haven't explained to us why your god Jehovah is accepting free money from a Gambling Authority in Satan's World.
Your god says gambling is a sin and sign of greed, but your god loves free money so much that he accepts money from the Norwegian Gambling Authority. Just like your god Jehovah, you are all shameless hypocrites.

Dangig:
This is not exposure. Prove that Oteneaaron Courzs and me are the same person. From your logic, anyone who talks about JWs are the same person. Why didn't you call other monikers that talk about you JWs as well? And by the way, why are you accusing Oteneaaron of being me and Cours? Where did that come from?

Intelligence!

Others do appear on other threads expressing their faith in Jesus but these three accounts (oteneaaron/ Courz/ Dangig) only come out asking the same question about JWs.
None of these three accounts preach or teach anything about Jesus Christ all you do is argue about JWs.
So even if you create one hundred accounts on this forum your attitude will expose you!

Dangig:
Maximus692 /MaxInDHouse /AkinwaleJjj, do your Governing body members get disfellowshipped like you ordinary JWs when they break your rules?

The attitude: oteneaaron/ Courz

Dangig:
By the Way, do your Watchtower leaders you call Governing body get disfellowshipped like you JWs when they break the same rules?

The character! Oteneaaron/Courz!