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TenQ:
Do Muslims believe in Jesus?
No!
They believe in Mohammed!
Is the shahada RECITED in the name of Jesus?
If they knew Jesus, they would have followed Him!
By their fruit, Jesus says His Disciples would be known

Guy, they claim they believe in Jesus even more than you do that's why Jesus said:

"By their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16

So if you don't know what Jesus meant by "FRUIT" ask and you will be taught {Matthew 7:7-8} it's not about what Muslims teach or say but what is peculiar with that religion. That's the FRUIT Jesus is talking about not what they teach because they preach and teach about Jesus!

My own Jesus said:

Go, then, and learn what this means: ‘I want mercy, and not sacrifice.’ For I came to call, not righteous people, but sinners.” Matthew 9:13

That's Jesus' response to Pharisees who were saying stuff like:

Dtruthspeaker:
That is The Way of God, He does not patronize anyone's sensibilities nor is He begging anyone to follow Him. BUT IT IS DEVILS WHO DO MARKETING AND SPEAK SO SWEETLY SO AS TO GET CUSTOMERS.

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you see Him befriend a blasphemer?
Or did you see Him smile and bless a sinner who sinned in His Presence eg Judas Iscariot or the idiot whom He warned "sin not lest a worse come upon thee"?

From the viewpoint of Pharisees all the people Jesus is sitting, eating, drinking and sharing his happy moments with are sinners:

The Son of man has come eating and drinking, but you say: ‘Look! A man who is a glutton and is given to drinking wine, a friend of tax collectors and sinners! Luke 7:34

Jesus Christ laid a foundation if you're not part of that foundation you can't pretend because it's something inside the heart not what you can disguise claiming you are one of his disciples!

TenQ:
Those who are of Christ are known by their fruit and not their group

So a nice Muslim who claims he believes in Jesus is saved since his salvation doesn't depend on his religious group, shey?

Prolific2018:
So what is the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit in Christianity?

As imperfect humans we have all sinned and fallen short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} that's why you will always see the flaws in all humans around you no matter how nice the person may prove to be.

That's why God in His infinite mercy planted a spiritual tree {John 15:1} after the death of Jesus this seed germinated and produced branches {John 15:5} it's the fruit of this tree the inhabitants of Antioch saw and began calling them CHRISTIANS! Act 11:26

After the death of Jesus' disciples who are the visible branches of this tree Satan planted his own seed right in the midst of God's farm {Matthew 13:25} when Satan's seeds germinated they began growing faster and outnumbered the seeds planted by God that's why we have countless sects all claiming denominations in Christendom. It's estimated that the world today has over 41,000 different sects all claiming Christian groups contradicting themselves.

So back to your question what is the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit?

It is one FRUIT that has nine qualities: LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL! Galatians 5:22-23

God promised that during the last days people from different races throughout the earth will come together and start using the Bible to teach themselves, they will use what they find in the Bible to resolve all their disparities among themselves, divert their resources into production of food and information materials, erased the making, buying, selling and usage of weapons among themselves and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again! Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

This sounds really impossible because imperfect humans can't do this due to politics and racism but God promised that it's by His Spirit {Zechariah 4:6} so God's Holy Spirit will help make faithful people throughout the earth to speak with one mind {Zephaniah 3:9 compare to John 17:22} so with the nine qualities of God's Holy Spirit permeating the gathering of imperfect humans this prophecy will be fulfilled!

Do you know any religion today that people are saying about them:

"This religion have love among themselves" John 13:34-35

That's the FRUIT Jesus Christ said will help you to know God's true worshipers because each of them is imperfect so if you're thinking about personality traits you can't figure out the true religion but if you're looking at them as one movement you will SEE the predominant quality in their midst! 1John 4:8 compare to Matthew 19:26

TenQ:
Amen my brother!
And I pray that those under the captivity of Islam will one day be free by the truth in Jesus mighty Name

It's one thing to say what you feel is wrong with a religion but the assignment Jesus Christ gave his own disciples is to help their friends and neighbours IDENTIFY the group practicing pure worship.
Most honest hearted and sincere individuals are interested in knowing the religion God approves not the secret of different religions.

For instance back in the first century Jewish zealots and their religious leaders spread lots of rumors about Jesus and his disciples:

They said his mother was promiscuous and that she got pregnant due to her promiscuity and convinced her fiancee that the pregnancy is from God Holy Spirit so they abused Jesus face to face telling him that his mother was a fornicator! John 8:41
They said Jesus he's a cultist {Luke 11:15} who promotes cannibalism and drinking of blood and some of his former disciples confirmed it's true since Jesus used an illustration they never waited to know the meaning! John 6:54-66
They said his disciples are liars and thieves because they lied that he resurrected while they came to steal his body which they ate just as he taught them! Matthew 28:13
They said his disciples are spiritists using charms to catch people with their lies so for nobody should listen to them they expelled anyone who associate with them in the synagogues of the Jews! John 9:22

There's lots and lots of rumors they spread about Jesus of Nazareth no wonder 90% of Jews till today don't want to have anything to do with Jesus of Nazareth.

So how can an Israelite be saved?

They must love God with all their heart, soul, strength and mind, do more than just listening to what people say about Jesus and his group, speak with Jesus' disciples one on one without been biased, observe the fulfilments of God's word as related to them, pray to God for guidance and stop being indecisive.

Most people just want to hear stories that's of no benefits to them, they just want to have something to say they're not interested in the truth.

Islam is a religion on its own but the truth remains that it has nothing to do with the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
There is no religion without something people will say to irritate you but with sincerity and a honest heart you will IDENTIFY the true religion by its FRUIT! Matthew 7:16

May you have PEACE!

That's how spirits possess people!

When talking about the GIFTS of Holy Spirit most people don't know that what one spirit can do hundreds of thousands of other spirits can do exactly the same if not hindered, that's why the magicians in Egypt could perform signs just like what Moses was performing to prove that he was sent by God! Exodus 8:6-7

So the GIFTS of the spirit can be found in all the religions on this planet because all these religions has the backing of powerful spirits.

God's word revealed that while the GIFTS of the spirit are similar in nature the FRUIT of the spirit is just one unique FRUIT so while different religions may share similar spiritual gifts the FRUIT totally differs.

That's why Jesus of Nazareth (Christ) never said by their GIFTS rather he said "by their FRUITS you will know them" {Matthew 7:16} this means different sects may claim they're Christians with their contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines but no matter what their fruits will never be the same if you carefully observe them.

So what is the FRUIT of God's Holy Spirit in Christianity?

FRANCISTOWN:
Jealous, insecure, intolerant, murderer, task master, wicked, egoistical, racist, slave Master. I can even go on and on

You misconstrued everything my friend so let's treat each tag one after the other because if not you won't know how Holy (pure) He is!

Will you like to know how to IDENTIFY false prophets?

Well TB Joshua is just one of the FAKE prophets and Jesus has given you the key to IDENTIFY them so if you care to know we can both reason from the scriptures! Isaiah 1:18

May you have PEACE!

FRANCISTOWN:
Is your God different from the God of the old testament?

What do you know about the God of the old testament?

@ErnestNc
If you have further questions please i'm still very much around with you.
Instead of calling some faithless miscreants to come attacking God's people {Act 14:2} i will advise you to feel free and approach JWs close to you. Many around you are faithless people who have no interest in the truth so it's not good to follow the crowd for evil intentions! Exodus 23:1-2
PREACHING is presentation of your message but TEACHING has to do with the deeper things which are hidden from the majority.
That's why many sects are springing up today claiming Christians with contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines because each has something hidden revealed to their founder.
But the one and only way to know if such teachings is from our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus is the FRUIT they produce! Matthew 7:16-18

Christianity is about a man called Jesus of Nazareth he used to PREACH from house to house and when many gather to listen he will TEACH them what they can bear but reveal the deeper secret things to his closest confidants.

That's what Christianity is all about so what is the FRUIT expected of this movement?

Those taking the lead must continue in the same format PREACHING their message publicly and TEACHING sacred secrets only in the midst of those who have accepted them as God's servants. Then all those adhering to this format must do the same thing! John 17:20-23

That's the FRUIT expected of this movement but if you're expecting anything outside that then you will be stumbled because nice people can be found in virtually all the religions around you no matter the religion you will find nice people in their midst but does that means they will be saved for being nice?

Well Jesus told one Jewish man who has been nice from his youth up that he must become one of his followers otherwise nothing for him {Luke 18:18-23} the same thing Jesus told one of the Pharisees named "Nicodemus" who also proved to be a nice man.

So find out the one and only group practicing Christianity and salvation will be yours.

God bless you and may you have PEACE!

It's like the OP has been silenced, now he knows that it's not just something himself or any of his pastors can handle.

Ọmọ i get work to do jàre, see you guys some other time.

May you have PEACE!

achorladey:
You were the one peddling pains and cry now Since you know that point cannot be refuted and it tied your hands completely from typing against it. By your own words you will be nailed

That's why you keep crying over my intelligence, shey?

Ọmọ bow before God's people: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Your salvation is at stake in this!

achorladey:
Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?
Our Readers Ask . . .
Is Jesus the Archangel Michael?

From the above it's clear that we didn't initiate it, our READERS are the ones ASKING and Jesus said:

“Keep on asking, and it will be given you; keep on seeking, and you will find; keep on knocking, and it will be opened to you; for everyone asking receives, and everyone seeking finds, and to everyone knocking, it will be opened" Matthew 7:7-8

So if after thorough meditation God's Holy Spirit prompted an interested person to ask for something vital {Proverbs 2:3} we must no longer hide it from him but guide him to the right conclusion!

achorladey:
Drowned intelligence as usual the hypocrisy and suspicious eyes you look at your members added to the influence of the devil and your members being sinners like every other Christians as said by you is a testament to your weak intelligence and that Jehovah’s witnesses are not the only one who believe and trust in what Jesus taught

Get that into to your thinking brain.

He don pain am, he won cry!

Sorry o!

Courz:
Readers, do you see the above statement? He mentions Sacred secrets that JWs keep to themselves when they come to preach to you.

That's how our Master, Lord and King Christ Jesus commissioned our movement!

He asked us to go and PREACH to people in their homes {Matthew 10:11-13} but warned us strictly not to divulge certain SECRETS. Matthew 16:20

So if you think we are cultists due to that well he has told us ahead before you do:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub (Satan), how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:24-25

Ọmọ we are doing what he commanded us! Matthew 28:20

FRANCISTOWN:
See don't mind that guy.
I swr, that guy is the exact image of God.
That's how God is. Worship me and you are my child, if you don't worship me then I'll burn you in hell.
He is behaving like his father. So I'm not surprised

You're right my friend because there are many Gods {1Corinthians 8:5} my own God is settling all the disparities among His worshipers and forbidding us not to judge anyone due to their grievances towards Him {Micah 4:3} so his own God differs from mine each person will project the image of his God! Micah 4:5

FRANCISTOWN:
I've read the New Testament more than 40times. And the old testament countless times.
I would have been a Reverend Father. There is nothing you can tell me that's so new.

If it's just about reading the scriptures Jesus won't send his disciples to go and TEACH, ọmọ you're educated nah if we can grasp everything by just reading books then what is the need for teachers in schools? All we would have needed is books and each person will read on his or her own before exam there won't be any need for teachers!

FRANCISTOWN:
Think about it, if God truly exist. Why does he need my worship or praise. He has several angels doing that for him already in heaven, that's a disposition of someone with mental issues.

You missed the meaning of worship and praise due to your former religion.
Worship simply means doing things according to the instructions given by someone and praise means telling others about the goodness in following the wise counsel of the one you worship. Satan has misconstrued it all that's why it's difficult for you since Satan don't want you to make sense out of it!

FRANCISTOWN:
Why would he allow so much religions and see people guessing and missing their way?

Satan boasted that he can mislead all humans due to his high intellect so God told him that with the way Adam was made many that will come through Adam's blood will beat Satan's intelligence no matter what he does {Proverbs 27:11} the true God believes (trusted) in what He created in His own image {Genesis 1:26} so if anyone failed to understand these things you will see them quarrelling with everyone around them just as you're doing!

FRANCISTOWN:
Why would the god of the whole world be silent like a graveyard?

Mankind is too dirty from His standpoint {Isaiah 64:6} that's why He chose Abraham and made a covenant with him and his descendants, all His deeds with them are recorded in the Bible so if anyone feels like God must talk to him one on one then such a person can continue waiting till His kingdom come!

FRANCISTOWN:
Man made God, God never made no man

If you think so my friend, if you think so!

achorladey:
Where in content and context is according to Peter only Jehovah's Witnesses are qualified for God's Kingdom?

If only JWs are OBEYING all the commandments of Christ as i listed in that post then it's obvious that only JWs believe (trust) in what Jesus taught!

Courz:
Where is it written anywhere that Preaching and Teaching are not the same as far as the word of God is concerned?

Ọmọ i know how painful it is as my intelligence is beating all of you hands down so take heart that's the power of God's Hold Spirit not my own doing! Luke 12:11-12

When Jesus sent his disciples out to preach from house to house {Matthew 10:11-13} he strictly warned them not to tell anyone that he is the Christ {Matthew 16:20} so how do they talk to people without divulging the info that Jesus is the promised Messiah?
That's where TEACHING comes in!
You will notice that he later said they should TEACH after baptizing them {Matthew 28:19-20} so among JWs there are lots of sacred secrets we are been TAUGHT but that's not the case when JWs first come to PREACH to me all what they were talking about are the blessings that will come along with God's Kingdom! Matthew 10:7

There are lots and lots of things to learn from Jehovah's Witnesses but if you've sealed your heart we can't help you! John 9:41

Dtruthspeaker:
You on your own faced me and attacked me now I have answered you, you are complaining that I attacked the op, forgetting, you you did the same. So you have nothing to say.
And of course you jws are both children of Satan, so we understand that you people will house God's enemies as Jehosaphat did and nearly died because of it.

Why do you think Jesus was called "the friend of sinners" ?

Well for your information it simply means Jesus doesn't judge anyone based on their feelings towards God. Due to hardship and unpalatable conditions people find themselves it's normal for mortal man to raise complaint against the God you're preaching about.

That's why Nathaniel spoke harshly against Jesus when his brother introduced Jesus to him, Nathaniel said:

“Can anything good come out of Nazʹa·reth?” John 1:46

Now let's reconsider the OP's question again:

"Can anyone tell me just one usefulness of God?"

So if Jesus of Nazareth calmly address the issue raised by a fellow Jew who supposed to know it's written in their scriptures that the Messiah Christ will be called a Nazarene {Matthew 2:23} then how come a so called Christian can't calmly address what the OP raised someone who knows little or nothing about the scriptures?

Blessed are the peacemakers (those helping unbelievers to become God's friends) because they will be called "God's children" Matthew 5:9

An unbeliever can raise any topic no matter what he raised it's the duty of a fully competent and completely equipped Christian to speak consolingly to depressed souls not fueling dispute with them! 1Thessalonians 5:14

Courz:
He was demanding that he should be shown which of their publication has that teaching.

HBP won't kill you!

I said TEACHING differs from PREACHING!

The OP said i am preaching to him that Jesus is archangel Michael and i told him that he's lying because we don't preach that rather it's our teaching.

That's why i challenged all of you to present a publication of JWs where it's written word for word:

"Jesus is archangel Michael"

That opened your eyes to know the fact that it is our teaching not what we preach at people's door. So if you people are now coming to ask us about our teaching then i can boldly say you people don't know the difference between PREACHING and TEACHING!

achorladey:
At this Peter began to speak, and he said: "Now I truly understand that God is not partial, but in every nation the man who fears him and does what is right is acceptable to him

You missed the target again my guy!

According to Peter only Jehovah's Witnesses are qualified for God's Kingdom!

@God's Son commanded his disciples to humble themselves at the doors of neighbours for the message he sent them {Matthew 10:11-13} but your brethren are making noise in public buses and street corners! Matthew 12:19
@He commanded us to love our neighbours {Mark 12:31} even though they proved to be our enemies {Matthew 5:43-48} but your brethren are training everyday and amassing destructive weapons to kill their neighbours! Revelations 6:3-4
@He commanded us never to be part of those struggling for worldly positions in politics {John 15:19} but your brethren are into politics even killing one another over politics.
@He commanded us not to practice interfaith where different line of thought is welcomed {Matthew 16:6-12} but your brethren welcome all opinions hence contradictions everywhere.
@He commanded us to have the same line of thought so that we can all speak with one heart {John 17:22} but your brethren have pitched their tents against one another yet claiming they're for the same Christ.
@He commanded us never to add or subtract from the instructions we received from him {Revelations 22:18-19} your brethren makes contradicting rules just to form different sects.
@He commanded us not to be materialistic {Matthew 6:19-21} your brethren always praise even announcing the names of wealthy ones in their midst hence all of them are desperate for riches.

Ọmọ if Jehovah's Witnesses are people from different races throughout the earth heartily practicing what Jesus taught then the Bible book of Act 10:34-35 applies to them and only them! Matthew 7:24-27

FRANCISTOWN:
This is prolly your first comment on this thread.
Which question did you ask me?

I'm Maximus/MaxInDHouse!
The spam bolt issue affected the other account so i switch to this.

FRANCISTOWN:
Well, I'm not gonna argue on behalf of any denomination.
Something like this should only be expected when the leader of the religion itself never lived

You're not answering my questions!
It's like you want to argue in support of these religions despite their uselessness yet you want to turn the blame on God.
If you can read in the scriptures how God planned to resolve all these issues and a religion working towards God's plan, is that not enough evidence that it's false religions that's making it seem as if God is useless? 2Timothy 3:5

Funny atheist deceiving himself!

I said it several times that the account belongs to my wife and from what i'm seeing in the screenshot that's women talks o!

Courz:
Hahahahaha. You have opened this guy's yansh! So this is what he posts about sometimes. Different yansh of different women. And he comes here to form Holy. It isn't his wife posting abeg. He is the one. This is how JWs operate. Very hypocritical set of people. They can commit all kinds of Sin and come to pretend to be something else. Hypocrites! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Look at him talking about Politics. And Watchtower has warned JWs not have Political opinions o. Here is this Mad MaxInDHouse exhibiting his Hypocrisy. Only him had different Monikers but he can false accuse others of having different Monikers. This guy is nothing but a disgrace. A very foolish Boy! 😀 😀 😀 😀 😀

Nice one Emusan. We keep exposing and disgracing this Hypocrite JWs. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

achorladey:
You go about posting close to 60 - 80 thousand comments on nairaland with majority of it about telling us that all other Christian denominations are false Christians, good for nothing and will be gone for Good only to tell us don't judge
Many problems for your drowning military intelligence

You missed the target again my guy!

Only Jehovah's Witnesses will be in the kingdom of our God while all others will be destroyed is the commonest comment in religion. All the religions on planet earth say the same thing so if you're worried that one is saying it then you should check yourself!

Telling someone he is lying against the Holy Spirit while he keep saying "let God judge" is totally different!

Ọmọ see worry for Warri pikin!

Madness is malfunctioning of the brain and it's no good questioning the actions of an insane.

God promised to remember the dead and raise them back to life in perfect health {Job 14:13-15} but the insane only has people who likes them due to their good deeds before they ran insane.
So in Paradise where God promised to remove tears from the eyes of His loyal ones therefore He will bring back our dead loved ones who died as blind, lame, deaf, dumb and insanes to turn our sorrow to joy! Revelations 21:3-5

FRANCISTOWN:
@the emboldened, I really don't wanna insult you.
And your analogy really didn't have anything to do with what we are talking about .
With my lil research, I discovered that , Buddhists and Hinduists make more sense. Islam tried a lil, but the worst of them all is Christianity, I swr, one needs a kind of brain emptiness to believe in the Christian God

What good prospect exactly did the gods you heard of in Buddhism, Hinduism and Islam say about the future that adherents of these religions are fulfilling today?

sonmvayina:
You are one...but you are just confused....
When you grow up, you will learn...

So keep waiting till i grow up and stop mentioning me because you will always end up running away!

AntiChristian:
The Luke verse was a parable of the ten Minas! How does it translate to war which Jesus will lead?

I'm glad you observed the illustration!
The minas simply means freewill to choose whether to worship God wholeheartedly or sit on the fence. Your life time is to worship the true God so if you dedicate yourself to search for God with all your heart God will give you understanding (minas) according to the love you showed for his name that's why one was given FIVE, another TWO and the last ONE!

Due to the love he has for God {Mark 12:30} this person served God heartily and helped many to gain accurate knowledge of God's word so he was given more understanding (minas) the other with two also proved to be industrious so his two minas was multiplied but the carefree thought it's needless serving someone he doesn't know if he will be rewarded or not so the little understanding (minas) given him was taken away to be added to that person already having ten minas!

So since he doesn't want to serve God's purpose he will be exterminated. That's what will happen to all unbelievers who shows no interest in the truth of God's word.

AntiChristian:
The Psalm verse too didn't specifically mention Jesus and war!

Evildoers will be cut off {Psalms 37:9} surely it means a time is coming when God's executioner will lead the heavenly armies {Revelations 19:13-15} to destroy all evildoers!