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Go and agree with your cohorts first before preaching your useless BORN AGAIN stuff here because it makes no practical sense!

brocab:
Wrong again, I am not expecting the JW's to agree with me at all, it's your choice to agree with the Word of God: I realize you are upset because the Word of God say's clearly you must be Born Again before you can enter into the Kingdom of God.
And I realize you like using {John 17:22} but even this verse doesn't line up with your doctrine, you maybe one in your organisation, but you can't be one in Christ, when in fact you don't believe Christ is One with God.
I know you don't take scripture to heart, but I would like to share these verses with you, Just in case the Watchtower haven't taught it, to you.
{Philippians 2:5-7} Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation taken the form of a servant, and coming in the likeness of men.
Since you believe you have all the answers: ask yourself 'who is Jesus, where did He come from, before He came in the Likeness of men.
{John 1;1} states this argument.
I don't hate you Max: I am only here sharing the gospel: I don't know if you know this: we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this age" against spiritual host of wickedness in the heavenly places.
So the spiritual activity going on in your life Max, it's helping you to believe a lie, then rather knowing the truth: this is demonic!
But it aren't worth getting yourself all worked up over the fact one must be Born again: I pray for you Max: Maybe one day God will call you to His Son Jesus, so you will see His Light and be saved.

Ilamina:
sucks
All this hardwork and suffer on earth
Just to go back to the ground, that would suck
I can't imagine not living

That's why God wants us to live forever! John 3:16

Ken4Christ:
Your own Jesus is the devil.

Your Jesus whose body was left in the tomb.

Your Jesus who is not coming back.

Your Jesus who has no flesh and bones.

This is how terrorists behaves!
All what you're crying about is none of your damn business,
PREACH YOUR OWN JESUS TO YOUR FRIEND!

Ilamina:
when you become non existent

Good!
So

when you become nonexistent

nothing happens!

There is hope for whoever is among the living, because a live dog is better off than a dead lion. For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing at all, nor do they have any more reward, because all memory of them is forgotten. Also, their love and their hate and their jealousy have already perished, and they no longer have any share in what is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:4-6

LordReed:
Oga that was not my claim. You are the one claiming that nations used the bible to formulate their CONSTITUTIONS yet could not name a single nation. You instead came to say that "There was never any constitution WRITTEN until the God of Israel gave the Israelites laws and that's where all other nations derived these rules. Nothing like universal laws!" Which is why I said the Code of Hammurabi predates your bible so don't get it twisted.

The humumrabi and sinmuballit case is inconclusive lacking credibility until the fabricators find out who is the father of Sinmuballit o!

I told you there was never any written laws until the God of Israel gave Moses the laws he read in the hearing of Israelites. The fabricators of your Hummurabi code forgot to cover their tracks because we know that humans give birth to humans so who is the father of Sinmuballit?

brocab:
This was written by a fool: who believes Jesus had a separate Spirit from His Father when in fact God is Spirit-this fool believes Jesus could work miracles and walk with God without having the Holy Spirit in Him and working through Him. Janosky believes Jesus can do all things in the flesh on His own accord.
Do you also believe this heresy? The Spirit in Jesus is separated from His Father? Of course you do..

Janosky and Maximus are one {John 17:22} we have the same line of thought, it's you who doesn't agree with your cohorts yet claiming BORN AGAIN expecting JWs to agree with you. That's why i told you to go and fortify your so called faith with your brethren first before calling upon JWs.

Ilamina:
when you don't exist

Ilamina:
What happens after death

So what happens when you don't exist?

LordReed:
Quote what again na. You quoted bible verses that do not rhyme with what you are saying so why am I supposed to quote my own? LoLz. Na wa o.

The verses aren't for you since you don't believe the book it's for whoever believes so when i quote the Bible it's for those that may like to reason as believers not atheists like you.

Ken4Christ:
So, you have a different Jesus? What do you mean by 'your Jesus'?

So you don't even know that there are many Jesus in the spirit realms?

Well go and find out why Jesus of Nazareth will deny many using his name! Matthew 7:21-23

My own Jesus is the Jesus of Jehovah's Witnesses so preach yours to your friend.

LordReed:
I can't paste the entire thing na, spambot will ban me but here are some:

1. If a man bring an accusation against a man, and charge him with a (capital) crime, but cannot prove it, he, the accuser, shall be put to death.
2. If a man charge a man with sorcery, and cannot prove it, he who is charged with sorcery shall go to the river, into the river he shall throw himself and if the river overcome him, his accuser shall take to himself his house (estate). If the river show that man to be innocent and he come forth unharmed, he who charged him with sorcery shall be put to death. He who threw himself into the river shall take to himself the house of his accuser.
3. If a man, in a case (pending judgment), bear false (threatening) witness, or do not establish the testimony that he has given, if that case be a case involving life, that man shall be put to death.
4. If a man (in a case) bear witness for grain or money (as a bribe), he shall himself bear the penalty imposed in that case.

Now you're doing a sound job i will confirm as you too can confirm what i quoted in the Bible so we can then find out which of the nation in the east is making use of this instead of Mosaic laws claiming Christians or Muslims!

SubPlot:
Wonderful!!!
Brocab the Stoner saw "holy spirit" @ Luke11:33 & John 1:33.

They eagerly quote the Bible out of envy just to show that they can quote too but then they don't even know the import of what they quote.

The other day i told a so called pastors that Jesus was sent so that mankind can learn from him to please God and gain approval to live forever. So i quoted John 3:16 it was his little son who told him "daddy now i understand that verse better" he looked down on the poor boy!

Ilamina:
What happens after death

What is your understanding about the word "DEATH"?

Ilamina:
What happens after death

I believe you don't need anyone to tell you the literal meaning of "LIFE" so what is the literal meaning of DEATH?

LordReed:
LoLz! Did you even read any of the verses you quoted cos they don't match what you are saying.

Quote yours first let's see!

Techobeys:
Mr. Max the question is a personal question to Mr Prosper so kindly move away from it pls.

No wahala you can continue waiting for your fellow believers if you don't want to know the truth behind the contradicting teachings and conflicting doctrines in the sects claiming denominations under Christendom!

LordReed:
See them for yourself:

If you can't paste it leave it because i pasted the Bible's laws most countries around the world are using till today.
You can verify it in any copy of the Bible so paste it if truly the so called book makes sense!

Ilamina:
You said God will make earth better
That we are not going to heaven but his disciples only
It's almost the same thing, he will turn the earth to paradise

I'm not the one saying it but God's word!

Ilamina:
they said it's scary

Here you go again: "they said"

jaephoenix:
Which scientist agreed with the bible? Are you out of your meds?

Go and convince all scientists that the phrase "in the beginning" is a lie so there was never a beginning!

jaephoenix:
Its you guys that would praise JW, when the numerous sins of JW is exposed, you'll start saying you're not perfect. Una well so?

JW ORGANIZATION!

YES! That's the only organization doing the will of God and we can prove it anywhere anytime and before anybody who believes in God!

LordReed:
LoLz! I gave you name and date so what are you on about?

So do you have details of the laws?

Ilamina:
God will destroy the earth
And turn the earth to paradise

When I say, i want to go to heaven
I also mean, I can't wait for the paradise on earth also

Who told you the highlighted?

LordReed:
Is that you can't read or what exactly is your problem?

Who is the father of this so called king nah?

Aemmyjah:
I'm not interested sir
You read the laws Max wrote based in what he knew
You saw what Truthspeaker did as well
Neither of them asked you to go to the scriptures but they could have done so
You mentioned one unknown code and unverified date
Since you know much about the book, tell us something about it let all in the forum see

These people don't know how many enemies the Bible has that are hiding in secret they just thought it's by bringing any information that can't be verified with date, name and family background of the author!

LordReed:
Read what I posted the name is right there.
The Code of Hammurabi was written between 1755-1750BC, that's more than 250years before what you are giving for your Moses writing Genesis (I only accept for sake of argument there's all sorts of problem with that but let's leave it for another day).

So you don't have reliable information yet you jumped in to argue, shey?

Well who is the author?
From what tribe and who are his contemporaries?

Aemmyjah:
Jaephoenix himself has said that the ideas on how life came to be is under SPECULATION. How is it then fact? They want what will tickle their ears so they won't acknowledge God
One bloke was saying that the universe always existed
I told him that modern science has said the universe is about 14 billion years old... So the universe had a beginning
He says something else that the universe has always existed and had no beginning... Atheists reason like wind. They are the ones saying science has all the answer and they are the one contradicting what science says

I've always told them that real scientists don't ignore the Bible because they can sense that those writers aren't just ordinary men due to how much they knew more than their contemporaries.
Real scientists are learning everyday and as they continue to update their info they're gradually coming to agree with what the Bible said about the beginning.
So don't bother my brother it's just a matter of time!

Aemmyjah:
His pastor has betrayed him

When someone is lying publicly the truth will easily catch up with him!

So his pastors are the real jùjú people killing those sleeping with their wives with MÁGÙN!

LordReed:
Code of Hammurabi

The Code of Hammurabi is a Babylonian legal text composed c. 1755–1750 BC. It is the longest, best-organised, and best-preserved legal text from the ancient Near East. It is written in the Old Babylonian dialect of Akkadian, purportedly by Hammurabi, sixth king of the First Dynasty of Babylon. The primary copy of the text is inscribed on a basalt stele 2.25 m (7 ft 41⁄2 in) tall.
The stele was rediscovered in 1901 at the site of Susa in present-day Iran, where it had been taken as plunder six hundred years after its creation. The text itself was copied and studied by Mesopotamian scribes for over a millennium. The stele now resides in the Louvre Museum.

In what year was the bible written?

What is the NAME of it's writer nah?

The first book of the BIBLE (Genesis) was written by Moses the great grandson of Levi one of the son of Jacob, the son of Isaac, the son of Abraham.
He began writing it in the year 1513 BCE.

Aemmyjah:
Bacteria came by itself

They can only run but they can't hide from the first sentence written in the Bible:

In the beginning GOD created..... Genesis 1:1

ANTIlSLAM:
ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, na your herbalist the people you're running to for healing shey you need the full story

ANTIlSLAM:
Remember it's not Pastor involved but his wife and the HERBALIST whom you're running to for healing and deliverance died on top his traditional power... AGBARI OKU he burnt with herbs disappointed him, what a shame

So who sabi dey do juju pass?
The traditionalist or pastor who laid mágùn to kill whoever sleeps with his wife?

LordReed:
Easily disproven, the Code of Hammurabi was written long before the Bible existed.

What's the name of it's writer and what year?

You people don't know why the Author of the Bible (God) made sure that each of His secretaries penned down their names and dates each writer lived on this planet!

Ilamina:
pastor, our elders,people around us

People know the Bible

From our discussion so far i can sense that you only listen to what people around you say you never did findings on your own! Act 17:11

Well i'm pleased to let you know that nobody has ever been to heaven before except a first century Jewish young man called Jesus of Nazareth {John 3:13} he is the only person who said just a little about heaven as he claimed that's his former abode {John 8:23} and from what he said about heaven the place can't be full of fun as you said earlier because Jesus said there's no gender difference because people going there will neither be male or female since they won't possess PHYSICAL bodies {Luke 20:34-36} but as for future life on this planet the Bible promised us lots of fun:


We will never get sick again {Isaiah 33:24} never grow old {Job 33:25} and never die! Isaiah 25:8 compare to Matthew 5:5

Evildoers will be removed from our planet home! Psalms 37:9-11; 29

All the creatures will become straw eaters! Isaiah 11:7; 65:25

The blind, lame and all deformities will be cured permanently! Isaiah 35:5-6

We will build houses of our taste {Isaiah 65:21} because we will all earn equal wages for the satisfying work we do under God's government! Isaiah 65:22-23

Jesus (God's anointed King in heaven) will control all the forces of nature so that they all work for our good! Psalms 67:6-7

Both day and night will be fun forever because no wild beast will hurt anyone in the kingdom of our God which is coming to this planet and as for evildoers they will be exterminated for good! Proverbs 2:20-22

This is the GOOD NEWS of God's Kingdom (Government) that Jesus asked us to pray for, it's coming to do so much for us on planet earth! Matthew 6:10

That's why all true servants of God keep anticipating when this system will start operation on planet earth! Act 1:6

But some of Jesus' disciples will be taken to heaven for a purpose. Will you like to know the reason why they must be taken there?