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OgaNightmare:
So "Jesus body" was the sin?
We're getting somewhere, I like this confabs

You don't need changing what i typed because many are following so even though you're not convinced it doesn't mean others won't!


Jesus' body is what attorne for our sin just as the ancient Israelites use animal bodies and blood for attornment, ọmọ that's why John referred to him as "Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world" John 1:29

That body means a lot to all the host of heaven because that's the proof of payment for mankind's sin as in what we inherited from Adam.

So what is your next question?

OgaNightmare:
Wait how did Romans 6:7 come in?

Death cancel sin!

So once Jesus died the death penalty on all the descendants of Adam has been overruled that doesn't mean he will return as human, he will return to his former life: SPIRIT

That's what he surrendered when he left heaven to live here as human, he has the right to take it back after his earthly mission not the body he used on planet earth!

OgaNightmare:
You never seize to amaze me
"Two angels came and took Jesus body and ran away"
How are you different from the unbelieving Jews who lied to Pilate that Jesus disciples came in the night and stole his body

Those angels did their job by carrying the sin offering away from the tomb!

OgaNightmare:
I'm not and atheist, I'm a JW like like you
This your ad hominems are now becoming more of a trademark

Agree with your atheist brother about who is JEHOVAH then you can make sense to me!

OgaNightmare:
Jesus himself answers (John 10:17,18):

For this reason the Father loves me, because I lay down my life that I MAY TAKE IT UP AGAIN. 18 No one takes it from me, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MY OWN ACCORD. I HAVE AUTHORITY TO lay it down, and I have AUTHORITY TO TAKE IT UP AGAIN. This charge I have received from my Father.”

*Nothing can be clearer than these words of Christ; the life which He surrendered would be the same life which He would take again.

This is why reading totally differs from studying!

Now read the Bible book of Romans 6:7

For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.

Jesus bear the sin of the whole world in that body {Isaiah 53:5} so at Jesus' death all our sins are gone with that body {Mark 10:45} that is what Jesus will present before God's throne as attornment for the sin of imperfect mankind! Hebrews 9:12

So Jesus is not one of us (Adam's descendants) he's from the realms above {John 8:23} that is where he lives before God transformed his life into an embryo in the womb of the virgin Jewish girl (Mary) so after his earthly mission that body is no longer useful to him because he must return to his home not with flesh and blood.

His life as a mighty spirit being must continue but as a human with human body NO! NO!! NO!!!

Courz:
So, it is a source of great pain that I exposed that fact that Jehovah, your god, is Lucifer. Here, take a look and see the god you worship with Native Doctors and Satanists. Mad MaxInDHouse, why are you worshipping the same god with Shamans and Satanists, Jehovah? Jehovah is Satan, the god of the Freemasons and Satanists. That is NOT the name for Almighty God in the heavens.

Don't worry about me, go and convince your friends who are singing in the name of JEHOVAH then i will take you serious until then you're just doing the childish stuff!

Ken4Christ:
You have just testified with your mouth that you are not born again. So, you are sure to go to hell. Meanwhile, Paul never said so. He said God will change our bodies. He mentioned that those who are alive when Jesus comes will receive a new body. Why am I even wasting my time on a son of perdition like you. My only pain is gullible souls you will take along with you to that burning flame.

I've always told you it's a free world, to Muslims you're a candidate of their HellFire just as you also think about others.

So if you don't have anything tangible to say go and preach your god to someone out there i too will do same, i can't stop you from preaching your god just as you can't stop me from preaching my God.

Farewell!

OgaNightmare:
"Jesus' body was taken away by the two angels
{John 20:12} just as angels did with the body of Moses so that no Israelite knew his tomb till today"- THE GOODNEWS ACCORDING TO MAXIMUS VOL.3
Courz come and see heresy even his fellow JW's won't agree with him on this

Atheist!

Do you agree with Courz that JEHOVAH is the name of Satan?

FOOL!

If you have anything tangible to say type it and let's discuss because all JWs have the same line of thought regarding the life, ministry, death, resurrection and ascension of Jesus.

It's you guys that can't hold onto the same line of thought yet calling upon JWs who are unique with our beliefs!

hopefulLandlord:
what are you even talking about?

Force doesn't solve issues!

Ken4Christ:
Who are we going to believe? Your wicked organization that opposes the truth of God's word or what the word of God teaches.

The verse below confirms that Jesus has a body but it is a glorious one;

Philippians 3:21

Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto HIS GLORIOUS BODY , according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.

And it says that our bodies will be transformed also to be like his glorious body.

I know that you are thinking of another lie to fabricate.

Interpret the above verse for me.

Whether you'll call it a lie or not that's your own cup of coffee but since you asked i will answer for the benefit of other followers.

Paul was talking about the BORN AGAIN Christians {John 3:5-6} they will be taken to heaven with Jesus {1Thessalonians 4:16-17} their physical bodies will decay but they will be given a spiritual body with which they will live as angels in heaven! Luke 20:34-36

LordReed:
Show me the dictionary meaning were it says organisation means oneness.

OK you're expecting a dictionary to explain to the detail shey?

That's why you're an atheist those that believe they descended from APES, of course if your children are known in the community due to the surname they share in common but they are fighting and killing one another due to the influence of external force you will still say they are ORGANIZED!

RightChannel:
I believe you can read, my Lord is Jesus Christ and not just ordinary Jesus. Tell your HALL-GOERS including yourself to be fully ready for a day your traditional herbalists will used you for money ritual for another customers to get rich

That's my own personal business not yours!

Aemmyjah:
Bro Max, he says he's trying to help you walk away from the organization.
It is just like a village head of a slim going to meet someone in the white house, USA to leave that place and live in the slum...

Numbers in attendance are growing rapidly, since we've resumed public ministry, I've been inviting people to the KH and they've indicated interests.
Instead of saying the attendance in churches are decreasing, he said the attendance in the KH is decreasing. What a blind liar!

That's what stupidity does to misinformed Churchgoers!

onyemaair:
I like to think they are or course Christians, but misguided. They misinterpret the bible and then form doctrines around it. It isn't right. But I heard they are now reforming

You want to know how the true Christian group should be or you're just interested in what the world wants Christianity to be?


For your information Jehovah's Witnesses organization is the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught that's why we totally differs from all other religions.

©Jesus wanted his disciples to visit people in their homes! Matthew 10:11-13
©He taught them never to hate anyone even those who wants to kill them {Matthew 5:43-48} so they can't pick up weapons in support of any leader since Christ their preferred leader has commanded them to drop weapons! Matthew 26:52
©He wanted them to have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthians 1:10} despite being far away from one another {John 2:24}
©He taught them never to allow anything come in between them no matter what they must be willing to lay down their lives for their fellow believers! John 13:34-35; 15:11-12
He told them that if they're doing exactly what he taught them they will be known globally as a unique family of faith {Matthew 5:14-16} it will be as if each of them has houses throughout the earth because anywhere they go their families in faith will be ready to accommodate them {Mark 10:28-30} they will be hated by all other religions {John 15:19} and many will call them a CULT group! Matthew 10:22-25

So if you truly want to know how God's people are faring in this time of the end move closer to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES but if you're only interested in the common way people worship around you then forget about JWs! Matthew 7:13-14

Go and help your church members who do pick up weapons against one another due to politics and racism yet claiming they're followers of Christ the world's most wonderful counselor of all times!

brocab:
{Matthew 23:13} "But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, Hypocrites, For you shut up the kingdom of Heaven against men; for you neither go in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.
Kingdom hall is not growing-matter of fact people are walking away from you, and your organisation.
I am trying to help you, walk away from it, ask the Lord to forgive you-come to repentance, you can be saved from what's coming ahead..
Don't be fooled by the Watchtower-they themselves won't enter into God's presents, neither will you if you choose to stay..

LordReed:
LoLz! Social clubs don't form out of thin air, of course it is organisation.

ORGANIZATION means being organized which connotes oneness. John 17:22
The one and only organization if we're to follow the definition in the dictionary is JWs, you can't say people who are easily tricked into killing themselves over politics and racism are truly Organized!

Ken4Christ:
The sacrifice was the blood he shed. The blood represents life.

Help yourself by going through the entire Bible verse by verse and do away with the teachings they have used to brainwash you.

Ọ̀DẸ̀!
FOOL!

Jesus sacrificed two things for the salvation of mankind!

Luke 22:19-20

Bread represents what?
Wine represents what?

He has no right to retrieve any of the two after the sacrifice!

brocab:
It seems every bodies God differs from your's; but of course that doesn't stop you trying to force your untrue beliefs down someone else's throat, while door knocking.

We are only searching for the lost sheep of our King {Matthew 10:6} so it's only the sheep that takes our time but once we discovered you're not of them we quickly walked away! Luke 10:6

LordReed:
LoLz! I just said there are various atheist clubs, do you even read before you respond?

So social clubs means organization to you shey?

RightChannel:
You should put an end to patronizing traditional herbalists that are specialized in money ritual for healing. Promote Jesus Christ more than your traditional herbalists and see the goodness of the Lord

I don't have any business with your Jesus so go and tell your fellow Churchgoers what you want them to do with your Jesus.

Courz:
You don't know what to say again? Because I have fixed you in a tight corner you cannot release yourself from. I am showing people how mentally deranged you are for you to call Jesus a Liar and a deceiver. They can see the god you JWs worship. Satan's Witnesses.

I asked you specifically to show me where it is written that Jesus lied to Thomas by telling him what his brain can contain From the Bible. Not from your imagination. From the Bible Mad MaxInDHouse! Show me from the Bible. I will repeat.

Mad MaxInDHouse, So your Jesus is a Liar and deceiver who preferred to lie to Thomas because, according to you, he is not ready for the Truth? So you can now read the mind of Jesus that he had at that moment? Can you kindly show us in the Bible where this your fantasy delusional story was written? So, Jesus is a Liar which also makes God a Liar too? Do you have a full understanding of what you are saying? People are reading your comment and deciphering the sort of Spirit you are speaking under. So, in order to make Watchtower's doctrine work, you have to throw Jesus under the bus and call him a Liar and deceiver and you honestly believe people cannot call you JWs Satanists from this statement of yours?

Thank God people can see that the opinions from most in this thread about you JWs are correct. You JWs teach and preach a different gospel and a different Jesus which was strongly condemned in the Bible.

Ọmọ convince your friends that the name they have been singing belongs to Satan because Jesus resurrected in a spirit body not the physical materialised body he showed Thomas.

That's the truth whether you like it or not is not my cup of coffee!

Maynman:
If theism is organized, how come we have hundreds of religion with various deities.
CONFUSED theist

That's where you've been deceived.
Believers are ORGANIZED so you see religions not organized then know that they're your brothers ATHEISTS!

Convince your friends that JEHOVAH is Satan nah!

Courz:
Another set of delusional story with no basis in the Bible. I asked you specifically to show me where it is written that Jesus lied to Thomas by telling him what his brain can contain From the Bible. Not from your imagination. From the Bible Mad MaxInDHouse! I will repeat.

Mad MaxInDHouse, So your Jesus is a Liar and deceiver who preferred to lie to Thomas because, according to you, he is not ready for the Truth? So you can now read the mind of Jesus that he had at that moment? Can you kindly show us in the Bible where this your fantasy delusional story was written? So, Jesus is a Liar which also makes God a Liar too? Do you have a full understanding of what you are saying? People are reading your comment and deciphering the sort of Spirit you are speaking under. So, in order to make Watchtower's doctrine work, you have to throw Jesus under the bus and call him a Liar and deceiver and you honestly believe people cannot call you JWs Satanists from this statement of yours?

Courz:
This your reply is completely useless and filled with delusional wishful thinking that has no basis in the Bible. So, I will repeat myself.

Mad MaxInDHouse, So your Jesus is a Liar and deceiver who preferred to lie to Thomas because, according to you, he is not ready for the Truth? So you can now read the mind of Jesus that he had at that moment? Can you kindly show us in the Bible where this your fantasy delusional story was written? So, Jesus is a Liar which also makes God a Liar too? Do you have a full understanding of what you are saying? People are reading your comment and deciphering the sort of Spirit you are speaking under. So, in order to make Watchtower's doctrine work, you have to throw Jesus under the bus and call him a Liar and deceiver and you honestly believe people cannot call you JWs Satanists from this statement of yours?

Jesus told his friend what the brain can contain at that moment knowing fully well that Thomas will know better after the baptism by the spirit! John 16:12-13

Ọmọ i don't bloody care what you think all i'm concerned about is honest hearted and sincere followers of this thread so they're not carried away by your malicious intentions!

LordReed:
LoLz! This is a clear example of non sequitur, conclusion doesn't follow premise. You quote something that has nothing to do with gathering by the power of the holy spirit but you conclude it is. Bwahahahahaha.

Meanwhile who told we can't? There are many atheist clubs and social spaces out there but none has the scale of church organisation because of several factors. The major one being atheism is not a creed nor does it dictate any one course to achieve your goals so an atheist can get his inspiration from anywhere he chooses unlike your religion which mandates organisational attendance.

Koko is that atheists can never be ORGANIZED!

RightChannel:
Many churches that I know has this beliefs like One Mind Ministries, Aletheia Bible Church, Stonegate Christian Commune, etc

You are the one arguing blindly by promoting your ritual herbalists than divine healing

Go and convince all those claiming Christians that building or visiting hospitals is wrong nah!

Skankamola:
Come on, its practically impossible in this life. Humans are never satisfied by nature no matter how good a system appears, they would still be deviants. I think Japan and singapore are the most peaceful places actually.

There are many things you need to know about worship in SPIRIT and TRUTH {John 4:24} this is not about any geographical location but an organized people worshiping with one accord! John 17:22

That PEACE will become obvious only when this group converge in a place {John 14:26-27} it's not about a location! John 4:22-24

Courz:
Where is that dullard dum dum Idiot Aemmyjah that was denying that his fellow Antichrist in Satan said Jesus deceived Thomas? Come and see what your fellow believer in Satan is saying. He is repeating it. You will come and type rubbish under my comment.

Mad MaxInDHouse, So your Jesus is a Liar and deceiver who preferred to lie to Thomas because, according to you, he is not ready for the Truth? So you can now read the mind of Jesus that he had at that moment? Can you kindly show us in the Bible where this your fantasy delusional story was written? So, Jesus is a Liar which also makes God a Liar too? Do you have a full understanding of what you are saying? People are reading your comment and deciphering the sort of Spirit you are speaking under. So, in order to make Watchtower's doctrine work, you have to throw Jesus under the bus and call him a Liar and deceiver and you honestly believe people cannot call you JWs Satanists from this statement of yours?

When someone is not ripe for something we mustn't disclose info that's higher than his knowledge to him.
Jesus' disciples has been hearing a lot about Ghosts so to avoid complications Jesus need to convince Thomas that he's the same person not a Ghost as they've been erroneously taught through Babylonian mythologies.

But after they got baptized by the spirit what Jesus didn't reveal at his resurrection became clear to them. John 16:12-13
He is still the same person but the body they recognized has been taken away as the sacrifice for sin!

Courz:
Mad MaxInDHouse, why did you lie on Jesus Head by stating that he deceived Thomas and lied to him that he has a Physical body? Why did you have to make Jesus a Liar just because you want to prove Watchtower right? Don't you have the fear of God in you? How did you manage to get baptised?

If Jesus was not resurrected with his physical body, why did He ask Thomas to touch his hands and feet still having the holes made by the nails used to crucify him? Why did Jesus tell the Jewish Leaders that they should destroy his body and in 3 days he will raise it up if he is not meant to be resurrected with the physical body? You JWs are not answering these important questions.

He deceived Thomas because the man can't understand at that moment but listen to what Peter said after they've been baptized with God's Holy Spirit!


For Christ died once for all time for sins, a righteous person for unrighteous ones, in order to lead you to God. He was put to death in the FLESH but made alive in the SPIRIT ! 1Peter 3:18

All these are the BENEFITS of true Christianity!

oteneaaron:
You are lying against me.
You still haven't proved that Courz and Oteneaaron are one and the same person.
Where is your proof?
Until you decide to study ancient history to understand the true identity of the god you worship, I won't take you any serious too.
What kind of man doesn't do any research and prefers to stick his head in the ground in ignorance?
You can't be serious.

In anywhere i see LOVE, JOY and PEACE reign among humans like me i (Maximus) will bury my head!

Aemmyjah:
Even without holy spirit, atheists can never be organized as they have their own selfish philosophies

That's why Satan is using FORCE to bring them under his representatives!

Most Russians gladly attacked JWs when Putin referred to our brothers as extremists but now he is sending them to their early graves in Ukraine.

So instead of peacefully, joyfully, faithfully being under the loving supervision of the GB Putin their preferred ruler now sent to go and kill or get killed! Revelations 6:3-4

Workch:
so how did we get different Dillon colours?

That's the way God planned it because He wanted Adam's descendants to move towards different locations on the planet knowing fully well that their skin colors will be affected even though they're speaking the same language! Genesis 1:26-27

But it's because they chose to remain in one geographical location {Genesis 11:1-4} against God's will that's why He confused their language! Genesis 11:6-9

This is what is affecting your very existence and peace on this planet not some useless, worthless, hopeless theories of no practical benefits just to fill your skull and making you feel special when one of your fellow students can just think of exterminating you for an experiment!