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Aemmyjah:
You and the pantheist are pitiable

If the universe is God, where does intelligence comes from?
Would you say the universe gave us something it does not have?
Shame
You claim to be atheist but you claim to don't dispute the existence of God and you are listening to a pantheist

After all the humiliation and frustration they've experienced in those worship centers brother please blame them less because it's not that easy.
In fact they will face God and say all these even if He's going to destroy them but then is it God's fault or theirs?
Who asked them not to make a thorough research before embracing stupidity in the name of ATHEISM all because they're tired of the falsehood in their false religions?

Aemmyjah:
You don't have sense
Go and give birth in church and be campaigning it
Mention your church that gives you salvation and healing and deliverance.
Tell us let us hear

They are all LIARS!

All they're trying to do is speak against your religion for speaking against theirs, they don't have any faith in church!

Aemmyjah:
Morals came from who? You
From apes?

You now understand why i keep dribbling the other guy passionate about pedophilia and rape. Why so bitter after all humans came from APES according to ATHEISTS?

Aemmyjah:
You remind me of a brother
He angrily left the congregation, he did not want to return
He was raised a Witness
After many weeks of staying at home. He decided to go to a Church with a friend
One of the biggest church in town
He went and he was shocked at some of the teachings but the funniest part was when the Pastor prayed that they should vomit evil spirit
He began to remember when he was in the congregation cos he was in the front
He said everyone was vomiting and he didn't
The Pastor approached him and kept staring at him in the eye
He began to feel his stomach disturb him, the pastor was surprised, he shook his head and told him he really has an evil spirit and many prayers will help him. He wondered why people will drop to the ground when Pastor touched them. He was willing to adapt to this 'truth'
The brother was not comfortable throughout the day, he thought churches are like the kingdom hall. He had no money but was so embarrassed when they'll bring tray to him up to 5 times for offering and he was in front. The Pastor lecture was on money
He came home empty and embarrassed

The brother did not go to the Church again. He was the one arguing that he will find the true organization. He came back to the congregation with humility
He was convinced beyond reasoning about the truth.

He has not found the TRUTH!

Let him do àjàlá travel journey touring all the churches like Templee333 i'm sure he will have many stories to tell.

pinkylovely:
And then your point is ALL ARE FRAUDULENT because you've come in contact with a couple of fraudulent pastors, right?! So, where's the belief is miracle there?

Your problem is just to attend meetings like a churchgoer your heart is not with what is been discussed at the meetings. You're like Judas Iscariot who happens to be with Jesus but by the time temptation came sold Jesus for money.

If you've been following God's organization heartily you will know that even the so called miracle performing religionists are thoroughly deceived.
I have attended several churches after i left Islam because after JWs made me believe in Jesus i don't want to follow them carrying bags so i thought i could find a second best Christian group practicing Christianity though not as good as JWs that's when i realized that most miracle performers are confused themselves because they don't know the purpose of miracles.

According to Jesus of Nazareth miracles was planned to help the first century Israelites IDENTIFY the Messiah and the Jewish beneficiaries of the New Covenant, apart from that wonders and signs has nothing to do with gentiles. Matthew 15:20-24

So today Satan is backing false religions with powerful signs {Revelations 16:14} but they're only being deceived because Jesus will deny them {Matthew 7:23} WHY? Because they are not ready to work with his anointed brothers rather each of them just want the religion that suits their thinking to be established!

Aemmyjah:
Lol, he says he's JW
very funny person
Many non witnesses no longer believe in faithhealing or miracles by their clergymen but they still go to church
This one is claiming JW
He's like a person in a team, everyone is trying to attack to score a goal. He's busy shooting ball out for throwing

It's not only JW, it is YW

To him once someone is born in Israel such a person is as faithful as God's servants!

brocab:
Maybe if you understood the scriptures more clearly, we wouldn't be having this conversation..

I don't wish talking to faithless people like you!

pinkylovely:
Nahhhh! The highlighted is enough to tell you that I'm not saying anything based on HEARSAYS! And that you should stop assuming that anyone who questions your belief system doesn't have any idea about the JWs or just say things based on hearsays. I don't care if you think I wasn't a real JW right from time or not. I don't need to explain anything to you.

Lol. Another one here jumping into conclusions. I only asked that you stop claiming you believe what you obviously don't believe in.

Do you believe Jesus' word recorded at Matthew 7:22?

Aemmyjah:
Sure
I am not anti-science
I love science
I study animals
We agree on scientific FACTS
I don't believe that science and technology can make the world a better place and I don't accept the myth science gives concerning the origin of life
I was talking to the OP who wants to challenge God with an experiment (imagine!). He's like an ant on a railway trying to challenge the power of the train

If the OP wants us to believe that science is more powerful than God, let them do something higher than God did regarding creating man
Let them create a perfect man with more intelligence than us. Then, let them tell us if those ones that made represent a designer or Chance?! You see how their foolishness is mega

The highlighted is not from real scientists but hijackers claiming scientists: ATHEISTS!

pinkylovely:
I have not said anything based on hearsays. Because that's exactly what y'all conclude when you see people question your belief system. I'm still currently part of the JWs and their 'whosky' belief system. Been baptized. Was born here. So, if there's anyone that should be complaining about hearsays, I should be the one.

No one asked for your extra unnecessary explanations. The statement made was a simple and clear one. OP said the JWs don't believe in miracles. That's the exact truth! What are you trying to sugar coat abi explain again? There's nothing wrong with saying 'Yes, the JWs don't believe in miracles'. Simple and short! What's there? Do y'all always have to start looking for a way to twist the meanings of clear and simple words in a bid to defending your belief system? Do you?!

The highlighted is enough to tell that you were never a real JW you only assume you're one because your parents born you in the midst of JWs. I ask you again "do you believe Jesus' word as recorded in the Bible book of Matthew 7:22?"
That's what real JWs believe because Jesus adds that if care is not taken even the anointed will be deceived due to the wonders performed by false prophets.
So if anyone says he doesn't believe false prophets are performing wonders such a person is not a JW meaning you weren't a real JW Sir!

Aemmyjah:
If science can create life from non-life, that can be a powerful evidence that they are powerful but the person that made it will illustrate who? A designer/ Creator or Chance/nobody
To make me believe hat science is more powerful than God is for science to create (from nothing), a person more intelligent than Man

My brother Aemmyjah.

There are many things the GB will not declare publicly but expect us to use discernment that is why Jesus told us to continue praying for the Holy Spirit.

Atheists are politicians troubling this planet but it's the intelligent ones among them that are in the forefront while the fools only follow the lines drawn by their frontiers.

Adam and Eve knew JEHOVAH but denied Him when it comes to rulership, they want to rule over other humans while nobody controls them neither do they bow to any form of restraint. Whenever they find anything that interests many they do everything they can to hijack the system hence they dominate.
But the gullible atheists will be following them blindly arguing in support of the frontiers.

The faculty of SCIENCE began gaining ground during the dark ages when scientists are inventing many machines. My brother go and check the names of renoun scientists back then they were bonafide religionists but when the atheists noticed that the faculty is gaining ground they rushed in and began debunking the things those religionists did claiming they know better and the fools among them followed them claiming there's no GOD.

Religion is as old as mankind, you can't find any race whose ancestors has nothing to do with religion but when the atheists noticed that religion is gaining ground they rushed in and hijacked the system hence they dominate, but what are the gullible atheists doing?
Well they're following the atheists arguing blindly against the truth.

So my brother don't let this atheists give you any headache real SCIENTISTS believe (trust) in God just as real Christians believe (trust) in God but the gullible atheists will be arguing blindly when their frontiers are in politics RULING their world!

Aemmyjah:
See funny people
If Jehovah's witnesses were not here, they'll show weak proofs that science is more powerful
Because we are here, they'll start to jump and say nonsense regarding our organization cos they have no organization, no structure, no foundation of beliefs but senseless, apish, selfish ideologies

When chatting with them you have to be wise as serpent and innocent as dove! Matthew 10:16

Serpents are shrewd creatures unpredictable in their next move so when they expect you to feel hurt that's the time to insult on their intelligence!

Doves are harmless and innocent creatures can't be caught for any crime neither does it cause any harm.

So when i chat with atheists they're tormented because they expect a Christian to be stupid so they can push him here and there mocking his faith but when you proved unshakable they are caught in their own web! Job 5:13

pinkylovely:
Who said you weren't a JW? Probably an elder/pioneer who's still glued. Again, stop lying that you believe in miracles when you know quite well that if you were to be told that a Christian religious leader miraculously healed someone from a sickness, you will never believe that to be true. Yeah? Explain God's Holy spirit as an active force, right?

I'm telling you now that all you need to ask is further explanation not just concluding on what you heard from a JW.

Jesus said:

“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the Kingdom of the heavens, but only the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day: ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And then I will declare to them: ‘I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness! Matthew 7:21-23

So if you find anyone who doubt that there are wonders performed by religionists today {Revelations 16:14} then know that such a person is not a JW.

What you supposed to ask is why are we not moved by their so called miracles?

brocab:
You maybe a little confused about the Word of God-but you are different from your comrades in crime..

We all have the same line of thought {1Corinthians 1:10} so don't patronize me JWs believe the same thing! John 17:22

So if a JW tells you something all you need to do is ask for more explanation but when you misconstrue what a JW told you then don't think it's the JW that's different it's you that failed to grasp what the JW said.

AntiChristian:
It means white wedding gown!
Wedding must be done in church!
The couples may be virgins!
The pastor must be there!
The congregation must be present as witnesses just like Adam's wedding!
Jesus must be around to give more wine as miracle!

They must sing, dance and make merry!
You may k*ss the bride!

Ọmọ use your brain nah!

When God introduced Adam to Eve how many humans were on the planet so that guests may be present?
The pastor is God's representative so you have no point!

AntiChristian:
I don't know why you like to deflect like this. Look at the question o asked and look at your response! How many Muslims have you seen me kill under politics? If i call you a Liar now it'll look like I'm rude again!

Jesus required no particular gathering to preach! He preached on the go! He urged his disciples to go out and preach not sit home and create churches!

Once again, where does the church rules and regulations come from? Who picked the day of Sunday? Who determines time?

Do you encourage or discourage your fellow Muslims from joining the army?

That question has a lot to do with the highlighted because if Nigerian president and Ghanaian president disagree today you will support the Nigerian army with everything you know to kill Ghanaians even though there are Muslims among Ghanians!

duro4chang:
You should not justify yourself for commiting sin anyway.

Commiting differs from commit or committed!

tytachile:
Yes my brother it is still the same freedom of choice at play. God will
never force people to love him or obey him. In fact obedience is incomplete unless there is embedded in it the freedom to (disobey) so the obedience would not be out of fear of punishment.
God don't want to be feared but loved!

Well if you're of the opinion that your God welcome all religions then your own God surely differ from all others!

duro4chang:
You don turn am to anger abi?

Guy forget, God only detest practicers of sin not a sinner!

duro4chang:
Is there any difference between what you wrote now and what I have written earlier ?

If there's none then why quote me in the first place?

duro4chang:
At the same time you cannot belong to God and still expect your life to remain the same. The bible says old things are passed away. You can't continue to fornicate, lying, stealing etc and still claim to be in Christ. No justification for sin.

You need to understand the use of present continuous ('ING) if someone KILLED it differs from someone who is KILLING, if someone STOLE it differs from STEALING.

So get it straight a repentant person is one who has been doing it in the past but no longer after repentance.
For instance a fornicator doesn't find pleasure in FORNICATION anymore after repentance because when he repents he will start seeing formication the same way Joseph viewed it! Genesis 39:9

AntiChristian:
In essence he never started anything but told you to gather...

How will you gather?
What will you gather to do?
Where to gather?
Rules and regulations!
He just never started anything!

Gather in someone's name are for the lost sheep of Israel. How did it concern you?

The gathering is to preach and teach about the Kingdom of God which will bring total peace on planet earth {Matthew 10:7} and the world must testify to the possibility as they witness LOVE JOY and PEACE permeating our gathering {Matthew 5:14-16} not like your own religion where you will greet saying SALAM (PEACE) yet you can join gangs under politicians to kill your fellow Muslim with who you exchanged the peace greeting!

AntiChristian:
A blind argument is exposing you! Jesus that has two different genealogies and you said he's not one of Adam's descendants?

How is marriage biblical as asked in the last question?

What happened when God said:

That is why a man will leave his father and his mother and he will stick to his wife, and they will become one flesh. Genesis 2:24

Ọmọ this is not your Qu'ran o, this is our own book that there's a quotation specifically meant for each question you ask!

pinkylovely:
Stop lying to yourself. JWs don't believe in miracles. And before you start talking about miracle of life, I'm very sure you are aware of what OP is talking about when he says 'miracle'. And the belief of holy spirit is as God's active force.

Well if you don't know something there's no crime in asking!

I'm a JW and i believe in miracles and Holy Spirit perhaps it's your understanding that differs from mine but if someone ask me i will explain what God's Holy Spirit does as Bible teaches and as for miracles i believe.

So instead of speaking for others speak for your own god!

sonmvayina:
The ONLY worship the creator recognises is obedience to his laws..which includes prohibition of idolatry..
And non membership of secret cult.

Speak for your own god not mine!

AntiChristian:
Jesus didn't attend church nor urge anyone to.

He urged his disciples to gather in his name {Matthew 18:20} it's our assembly as worshipers that's called church not a building!

AntiChristian:
How many did Jesus wedded?
How scriptural is it?
On wedding day you must look for one Jesus to turn water to booze when you've exausted the ones you provided!
Where is the white bridal garment from?
Where's church wedding in the Bible?

You just want to argue blindly!

Jesus is not one of Adam's descendants who needs to increase child bearing on earth {John 8:23} God introduced Eve to Adam, miracles comes to mind when it's needed not always, Joy makes us think of how to make it memorable. In the midst of Christians marriage is welcome because there is no room for polygamy or divorce!

You were in the wrong place!

I attended a church for close to 3 months before i asked my friend how they're coping without contribution, that's when he showed me two boxes at the back but they're not contributing!
So i told him i can't see anyone contributing, then he told me to come earlier next time but now i should focus only on the box from the beginning of their service to the end, that's the time i notice each person going to drop something in the box even the kids doing the same without any announcement.

Well the church has been tagged CULT {Matthew 10:25} they are known globally as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

duro4chang:
But not to remain sinners for life

That's why God's word referred to those that will be saved in the end as people who have WASHED their robes in the blood of the lamb! Revelations 7:14

So while washing whoever is inspecting their robes will notice lots and lots of filthy things but God is patient with them because of His infinite mercy {Psalms 103:12-14} as long as they continue washing their robes in the blood of the lamb God is looking at them as perfect because they will eventually become perfect!

Moh247:
True... However the church might be for the sinners but only the righteous should mount the pulpit and preach the word of God

Naaaaaaaaaaaaa only the REPENTANT should!

For all have sinned and fall short of God's glory {Romans 3:23} so when a sinner repents he is striving to be holy that's the quality Jesus Christ wants because such a person is alert he will be fit to rescue others when they're about to drown in sin! Luke 22:31-32

Excellent write-up!

coputa:
A church is like a training ground to improve the imperfection of man,no one is righteous,no not one.But the public always expect christians including pastors and evangelist to be infallible,but it's not so, because they're human.Its just a platform to build your faith from continually hearing the word of God.

Deuteronomy 32:35
Romans 12:19
Hebrews 10:30