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NO!
Only demons are aliens, angels are spirit beings too and they both originate from the same source but after the demons left their duty posts in heaven God disengaged them {2Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6} that's why they became fugitives loitering around.
But as for angels they will neither make their presence known nor speak to anyone unless they are sent by God. After the last words of the Bible were penned down angels stopped having any direct contact with humans so any alien found afterwards are demons the disengaged angels or as most do refer to them "fallen angels"

achorladey:
Don't come and respond to voice of strangers you should be in front of your broadcasting network listening to those JESUS complete trust to give you imperfect[b] spiritual food laced with mistakes in doctrines and organisation direction

Your friend (OP) said:

Templee333:
i can't dispute anything said about JW, they are capable of being anything.

What baffles me is that this people like all other imperfect humans

are capable of being anything

Perhaps your friend thought God's people in ancient times were angels who aren't capable of being anything but perfect.
You faithless atheists!

tctrills:
Oga Jesus was not invited to Herod's birthday so when you say he did not attend, you are being dishonest. You don't attend when you are not invited.
Now you ask a more foolish question " which birthday celebrations did Jesus Christ partake?"
But let me answer you in a way you would understand. Which birthday Party was Jesus invited to in the bible?
How about convocation parties, Is that a sin too? Jesus never attended convocation parties.

Convocation is like rejoicing over the success of students graduating not found in the Bible but as for birthdays it is well recorded on two occasions Genesis 40:20; Matthew 14:6 it is clear that this custom belongs to pagans!
And because Jehovah warned His people not to participate in pagan traditions you can never ever find a single servant of God attend a birthday. We imitate their faith as they are our people by faith so that tradition continues!

Janosky:
Tctrill is desperate to convince this forum he's not TWISTING holy scriptures,Oga which birthday celebrations did Jesus Christ partake?
From your own Bible, please give this forum the verses and chapters.

NO nah, don't forget that Jesus to them is God so they may be scared to invite God for food and drinks just as them a quotation where one as in ONE servant of God partake in birthday celebration, that's all!

jmlite:
Because Christ has paid it all on the cross.

You're joking, right?

SeniorMan715:
Though am not a Jw but most of the things you are saying here are false, Every denomination have people that are righteous and unrighteous in it whether they have been long time members or not. I have associated many Jw and befriended them, i know a loft about them.

Our enemies are many and they are ready to promote all kinds of malicious lies about:

Templee333:
i can't dispute anything said about JW, they are capable of being anything.

When someone says the above do you think he is interested in the TRUTH?

OkCornel:
Kobojunkie, MaxinDHouse.
Can you shed more light on Jonah 2 v 1-2?
1 From inside the fish Jonah prayed to the Lord his God.
2 He said:
“In my distress I called to the Lord,
and he answered me.
From deep in the realm of the dead I called for help,
and you listened to my cry.

I don't wish discussing with you further but i will answer this!

Hell, Sheoul, Hades, Grave all means the same thing. Jonah saw the fish that swallowed him so when he realized that he's still alive he concluded that the belly of that fish will be his grave:

And the sea gave up the dead in it, and death and the Grave gave up the dead in them, and they were judged individually according to their deeds. Revelations 20:13

Many died in the sea and the were eaten by fish so Jonah thought that he's already in his grave but since he's still alive he prayed to Jehovah for a second chance.

So he wasn't dead rather Jehovah who transformed fire into AC for Shadrach Meshach and Abednego, who transported Elijah in a spiritual aeroplane change fish into a submarine that carried Jonah to Nineveh!

Please i won't answer any further questions so keep what you know!

OkCornel:
Revelation 6 v 9-11 suggests otherwise.
Jesus' reference to Abraham's bosom and the place of torment suggests otherwise

Are you aware of the evolving views on Sheol from First Temple Judaism to second Temple Judaism?

Ọmọ from that day the Jews killed Jesus the Son of God God's angel in the temple where Jews worship left {Matthew 27:51} so just as Jesus foretold the kingdom of GOD has been taken away from natural Jews {Matthew 21:43} right from that day what they're worshiping till now is demons! Matthew 12:43-45

So true Christians don't have anything to do with Judaism neither do we consider whatever they believe because they've been condemned! Matthew 23:37-38

cornelboy:
Baba this things no hard na.
Angels are spirit beings or physical beings?

He's one of them: the disguised atheists!

They only argue with everyone including their religious leaders so that even though they are worshiping in the same place their line of thought often contradicts one another and by the end of the day they want to conclude that nobody has absolute TRUTH which means they can't be taught what doesn't go down well with their liken but when it comes to contributions and worship it's OK by them.
The only reason why most of them protests today is the extravagant lifestyles of their so called MOG made possible by their payment of tithe.
So whenever they find JWs they want us to agree that we are on the same page with them but then we will tell them frankly
"if you're not obedient to the Governing Body you can't possibly be a worshiper of our own God!"

OkCornel:
JESUS DOES NOT USE FALSEHOOD AS THE BASIS OF HIS PARABLES. Let that sink in. If he speaks of Abraham's bosom and the place of torment in Sheol. These places actually do exist. Case closed.

Great!
So keep that while we keep our understanding that the dead are conscious of nothing! Ecclesiastes 9:5-10

Hismasterpiece:
By 'better performing' do you mean 'better deceived'?

Exactly what this faithless generation are seeking!
But for faithful people it's the best performing group so as to play our part in doing God's will!

Hismasterpiece:
You should take your own advice, brother neighbor... Erase all what the liars governing body has taught you and seek to know the truth for yourself..

Please can you present a better performing group than those led by the GOVERNING BODY? Matthew 7:16-18
Thanks in advance!

OkCornel:
Ten virgins alluding to a wedding. Weddings do happen

The prodigal son alludes to a rebellious son who later became repentant. This does actually happen.

Same with the servants and the talents…

But Abraham’s bosom and the place of torment are fictitious? They never existed at all?

Don't forget that it's this same person who told Apostle John many things in the Bible book of Revelation that are not real!

So none of these things actually happened but parables to teach his disciples SACRED SECRETS, only the WISE who understand all these things will be zealously preaching and teaching industriously just as Jesus commanded because they got the sense of all these things while many will take it literally and they will only go about never organized to do what Jesus commanded! Daniel 12:10

That's why Jesus Christ said:

 “Be on the watch for the false prophets who come to you in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves. By their fruits you will recognize them. Never do people gather grapes from thorns or figs from thistles, do they? Likewise, every good tree produces fine fruit, but every rotten tree produces worthless fruit. A good tree cannot bear worthless fruit, nor can a rotten tree produce fine fruit! Matthew 7:15-18

So lookout for the group PRODUCING the FRUIT because these are SACRED SECRETS many wants to understand but because they failed to IDENTIFY Jesus' brothers {Matthew 25:31-46} who should teach them such individuals will miss out! Luke 13:24

Templee333:
VOW OF POVERTY
JW org teaches it's members to abhor worldly riches. Not just that,some members who are in what they call "Order of fulltime something something..." are required to take a vow (vow of obedience & poverty) to remain poor. I didn't officially make that vow (but was on my way to), but inside my hrt i had determine not to be rich. The 1st time i heard abt such a vow i was so eager to be qualified 4 it. When i look back at it now it stinks. How can a sane human make a pledge to be poor? But such is the power of brainwashing. All special pioneers,traveling overseers,bethelites,international servants,missionaries & their likes have all taken that oath.The vow is written in a form that one has to fill & sign, it contains a lot of senseless pledges (or it make sense to them) but maybe they don't live up to it, a lot of them still lie to the organization & make money out of their service...

You say they took a vow but at the same time you said they're not living up to it yet it's a VOW.

Then you said:

Templee333:
@ triplechoice
i'm not telling anybody not to be a JW. If u realy want to knw the truth & u feel that they (JW) have it, u can join them. They'll welcome u. As our people say: "experience is the best teacher".

Yet with all these your stories:

Templee333:
sorry i didn't mean bad.

Jesus Christ said:

Whoever is not on my side is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. “For this reason I say to you, every sort of sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the spirit will not be forgiven. For example, whoever speaks a word against the Son of man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the holy spirit, it will not be forgiven him, no, not in this system of things nor in that to come Matthew 12:30-32

Let's just close our eyes and assume that you're on Jesus' side!

juman:
Muslims cannot kiss without marriage.
That is the rule.

Quotations please!

OkCornel:
Abraham's bosom and the place of torment were not literal realms of existence which Jesus alluded to in his parables OR Jesus made all these places up...

Parables!
Just like the prodigal son, Ten virgins, Servants and their master's talents!

sojisenai:
It is a sin, obviously...just like SEX before marriage.

However, I want to ask the believers this question. My elder Sister is a virgin at 38, she married the love of her life in the year 2020 (after dating him in the 'believer way'), a fellow believer. Long story short, the marriage has been dissolved and she is still a virgin( apparently 'complete impotency' is real, I never truly believed it could happen to a young guy). How will you convince her now that SEX before marriage is wrong?

Meanwhile, if you have an elderly loved one, or a friend who is sick or disabled...and you need a reputable company to [provide quality care for them, kindly check my signature for the best caregiving service company around.

Two persons planning to marry have the right to ask questions about sex it's not something to be ashamed of, in fact both need to talk about how they're feeling regarding sex because even though both are potent it's wrong for a horse to be yoked with a goat that is also called "unevenly yoked"

Both of them must be potent and not only that but share the same feeling towards romance and sex!

Lukuluku69:
See wailing lol.
And the one that has benefits, what has it produced? Over 40,000 Sects each and everyone claiming to be it's true representation whole condemning others to perdition. Lol
And if your next reply you hang out your Death Cult group as the true one sebi?

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES organization is the one and only group practicing what Jesus taught in the Bible!
Jesus talked about the FRUIT expected of pure worship {Matthew 7:16-18} as fully explained in the Bible by two prophets {Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3} which will help all worshipers of God to speak in harmony as in PEACE! Zephaniah 3:9

So even when 100,000 different sects including yours are claiming they believe in God with different books and theories i have found the one and only group producing what we're all expecting from the true believers in God among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Hismasterpiece:
Max max.. if indeed He resurrected as a spirit being then why did he ask her not to touch him? Can someone touch a spirit? Why did He ask Thomas to touch and feel His wounds if He resurrected as a spirit?
If he was resurrected as a spirit being then how could he eat broiled fish? Do spirits eat physical food?
The truth is that He was resurrected in a spiritual body.. It might be spiritual but it still is a body, and as such, can interact with physical things, but also interacts with spiritual things... It can disappear and appear...
Guy seriously you have to start questioning your JW doctrines... Be open to the fact that you just might be deceived...

What exactly is your question?

cooooooks:
I'll try not to be a hypocrite.
I agree that talk is cheap
Help me O Universe.

I just wonder why most people often talk about child abuse or pedophilia, is it because they weren't present when the man/woman was kissing their son/daughter or simply because they never gave their consent before then?

abikason:
Can your daughter have sex with whom she's married to in your presence?

At least i must let go when they're both going into a private room as in the two of them alone because they are now married, she is no longer my responsibility immediately both of them are declared man and wife! Genesis 2:24
That is what i can't do until the day she said "YES" in my presence to another man who now becomes her husband and owner! Matthew 19:4-6

Lukuluku69:
Your sect us only one of the thousand differing voices after reading the same thing from the same book. And I know you are not interested in what the Quran has to say because you are Deaf, Dumb and Blind.

YES! I'm DEAF, DUMB and BLIND to a worthless book that has no practical benefits!

Dtruthspeaker:
Everyone knows that hell is about pain and cryings and lamentings and if you are not doing any of these, you are not yet in hell.

So it's not about the dead but the living and that perfectly explained Jesus' parable of the rich man and Lazarus! Luke 16:19-31

Dtruthspeaker:
Daniel 12:2 the dead shall awake and some shall continue to hell others, to paradise.
There is nothing to say beyond this.

So no activities in Hell (Grave)

nnamdiosu:
This is a complete heresy.i know you might be doing this in error but please stop.

Jesus died not because he deserves to but to pay a price for mankind's sin and that he did with his perfect human flesh and blood.
So at resurrection he materialised a form of body for his disciples to believe that he's now alive but it's a spirit they're seeing not that same body anymore! 1Corinthians 15:45

Thanks!

cooooooks:
Do NOT kiss your gf or fiancé before marriage.
If you do so, flog yourself with horsewhip.
Say no to hypocrisy.

It's a free world so nobody is setting standards for you Sir neither can you force your opinion on others!

I just hope the highlighted is not difficult for you when it happens for real catching your daughter kissing someone when they're not married!

fatboyslym007:
What were the ancient doing?

They marry as VIRGINS and even after marriage most women finds it hard to believe that it's the same manhood they're seeing in the bodies of their little kids that their husbands are using to mate with them.
In fact windows to the rooms they sleep when making love is so tiny that the wife hardly see her husband's manhood unlike now that they see different sizes and salivating.

That's why most of them were faithful in their marriages!

cooooooks:
Why not.
Did I not kiss her mother before we got married?

If your daughter can kiss a man to whom she is no married in your presence no wahala!

Workch:
two fools that cannot agree on their delusions.
Cc: Maxindhouse

And who told you i'm on the same page with him?

OkCornel:
So the place of torment and Abraham’s bosom which Jesus spoke of in Luke 16 v 19-29 are fictitious places? Jesus made all of that up?

Parables aren't meant to be taken literally for the listeners to understand.

According to God's word there's no activity in Hell (Grave) {Ecclesiastes 9:5-10} so Jesus wasn't talking about a literal place but a condition of the heart!

Lazarus means the common Jews while the rich man is the religious leaders of his day, those religious leaders knew everything from Genesis to Malachi offhand so the common Jews often comes in to the temple and synagogues to listen to whatever those religious leaders will dish out to them as spiritual food and the constant dominance of foreign nations (dogs) has become like ulcers in the body of first century common Jews.

A change in their condition occurred when the long awaited Christ (Messiah) arrived and the common Jews were favoured as if they're now the ones having close relationship with the God of Abraham while the Jewish religious leaders found themselves in emotional torture as Jesus the one who proved to be the Christ is always in the company of common Jews!

This led the rich man (Jewish religious leaders) into demanding signs from both Jesus and his disciples as they kept interrogating them to get a relief from the emotional torture they're experiencing but Jesus declared that this people won't get any sign except what made common Jews became his close confidants {Matthew 12:38-39} which is just the same scriptures they taught the common Jews! Luke 16:27-31

Lukuluku69:
Dunce, The Quran was revealed to correct the errors (some knowingly made by men why an agenda and some that crept in unknowingly) . That part that says Abraham fed the Angels, was part of the Jewish Bible. Why not ask the Jews if they believed that the angels ate?

And I can't stick to the Quran alone. Do you know why? Your Bible claimed to have been an inspired book from God. I am a student of comparative religion who seek to see the similarities in Scriptures. It is only in your interpretation of all known Scriptures that Angelic beings eat, copulate, and many other stuff with humans. And the say way you can't stop spewing your kingdom hall babbles is the same way I won't stick with the Quran only.

Capiche?

Until you present a global family of peace loving worshipers using your Qu'ran as yardstick i'm not interested in whatever your Qu'ran has to say, i'm OK with my Bible alone!

Dtruthspeaker:
According to the verse, the dead shall be brought back to living again and from there they will continue to their respective destinations.

So they're no longer in Hell (Grave)

I won't expatiate further as you think you grasp the import but what i will ever continue to tell you is that the dead knows nothing and can't feel anything, it's the living that's conscious of their conditions! Ecclesiastes 9:5