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ANTIlSLAM:
Shey Jesus Christ is also a politician for using water in healing the sick abi why you shifted the matter to politics again. ÀBÚRÒ ÌYÀWÓ BABALÁWO, you will learn by fire by force

What Benefits Has Islam Brought To Nigeria?

I'm not easily distracted from topics so your tactics to derail the thread may work with others but not me.
No religion is to blame for the condition of things in Nigeria rather it's politics!

ReubenSandwich:
About the topic of the thread, I agree with you that belief in a god, no matter if it's a Christian God or any other, does not solve the alleged problem of people not having any reason to be moral if they don't believe in it.

The highlighted is a misconception!

The only way to solve morality problem is the belief (trust) in GOD {John 17:3} but because Satan has used FALSEHOOD to blindfold billions {Matthew 13:25} unintelligent persons thinks the trust in God can't solve our problem! 2Corinthians 4:4

So let's annalise it in a practical sense! Isaiah 1:18

Religion has been here from time immemorial and ethnicity along with it but politics has been the problem from the beginning whether you like it or not that's the absolute TRUTH!

ANTIlSLAM:
Maybe you need English teacher to explain this statement for you Olodo omo


7. And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.

Abi in ur village na sand u dey use to wash if not water

Ọ̀dẹ̀ Òponu Olódo!
What about the mud, the spit and grass?

Jesus SPAT on the ground and formed eyeballs from MUD, at a point in time he asked people to sit down on the GRASS, so people using MUD, SPITS and GRASS are also performing miracles shey?

Arda1000:
do you any evidence apart from Bible say

YES!
The Benefits of what Jesus taught!
All religions around you do come with different THEORIES trying to prove they know GOD, few among them talk about PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS but only one has proved to be BENEFICIAL: Jesus' teachings!

So when you talk about religions remember that each of them presents a THEORY about life and how we got here, few will tell you what their god taught them to PRACTICE but only one has BENEFITS!

Jerryhare:
So you're fulfilling God's word by seeking for healing from a traditional herbalist right?

TRADITIONAL HERBALISTS, YES!
He is a professional in herbal remedies just as doctors and nurses are professionals in other forms of treatment. Jesus never condemned treatment!

Jerryhare:
Jesus Christ himself used water for healing

NO!

delkuf:
You are more confused than I thought

Well that's exactly what i concluded about you too!

Jerryhare:
The one that enters the water what did you said about it?
Not all spiritual water that's for healing is meant to be drink, some are used for bathing which you see Jesus Christ doing there.
I am still waiting to see where Jesus Christ uses herbs for healing, I'm waiting for your Bible verse

As long as Jesus didn't ask anyone to use water to cure sickness you're free to hold onto your PERSONAL opinion!

Jerryhare:
All you need is Holy Spirit interpretation of the word of God and not from your devilish, evil religion you called Jehovah witnesses

Where are the worshipers of your God?

According to God's word His people will fulfill what He said in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-3

Only Jehovah's Witnesses are doing that today {Matthew 7:16-18} so no matter what you call us that talk is cheap! Matthew 5:11-12

Jerryhare:
Here is another one: Healing of the man at the pool at Bethesda


1. After this there was a feast of the Jews; and Jesus went up to Jerusalem.
2. Now there is at Jerusalem by the sheep market a pool, which is called in the Hebrew tongue Bethesda, having five porches.
3. In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water.
4. For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
5. And a certain man was there, which had an infirmity thirty and eight years.
6. When Jesus saw him lie, and knew that he had been now a long time in that case, he saith unto him, Wilt thou be made whole?
7. The impotent man answered him, Sir, I have no man, when the water is troubled, to put me into the pool: but while I am coming, another steppeth down before me.
8. Jesus saith unto him, Rise, take up thy bed, and walk.
9. And immediately the man was made whole, and took up his bed, and walked: and on the same day was the sabbath.
10. The Jews therefore said unto him that was cured, It is the sabbath day: it is not lawful for thee to carry thy bed.
11. He answered them, He that made me whole, the same said unto me, Take up thy bed, and walk.
12. Then asked they him, What man is that which said unto thee, Take up thy bed, and walk?
13. And he that was healed wist not who it was: for Jesus had conveyed himself away, a multitude being in that place.
14. Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
15. The man departed, and told the Jews that it was Jesus, which had made him whole.
16. And therefore did the Jews persecute Jesus, and sought to slay him, because he had done these things on the sabbath day.

John 5:1-16

You should show us where God uses herbs for healing

The man didn't enter the water o!

Jerryhare:
So it is all spiritual water that's made to be drank? You too needs little sense as your second said

Ọmọ you only need tiny sense to know that Jesus created all things and the case of the man you're referring to, Jesus formed eyeballs with mud because the man had no eyeballs then asked him to go and wash the remaining mud since the operation has been done not that Jesus need water to heal the blind!

Jerryhare:
JESUS CHRIST USED WATER FOR HEALING, HE NEVER USE HERBS FOR HEALING

1. And as Jesus passed by, he saw a man which was blind from his birth.
2. And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?
3. Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
4. I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day: the night cometh, when no man can work.
5. As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world.
6. When he had thus spoken, he spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and he anointed the eyes of the blind man with the clay,
7. And said unto him, Go, wash in the pool of Siloam, (which is by interpretation, Sent.) He went his way therefore, and washed, and came seeing.
8. The neighbours therefore, and they which before had seen him that he was blind, said, Is not this he that sat and begged?

(John 9:1-

THIS IS WHAT YOUR SECOND SHOULD MADE YOU TO UNDERSTAND DESPITE FAKING HIS CAC MEMBERSHIP

So did the blind man drank the water?

Jerryhare:
Where did he said so?

Where did God say people should use dead Babalola's water?

Jerryhare:
God created herbs for the purpose of what I said in Psalms 104:10-16 but you accepted to remain faithless as you even said to yourself

God said HERBS are created for mankind's use to treat himself not (dead) Babalola's water!

Arda1000:
lol even Jehova Witnesses has not been formed then haba.
So what kind of politics was taught to them using the word God?

It was because Satan polluted what Christ laid down {Matthew 13:25} and turned it to politics that's what Jesus foresaw {Luke 18:8} but after his return in the year 1914 he began calling faithful people out from the political organization you call CHRISTIANITY {Revelations 18:4} and since God is about to destroy all false religions including those politicians claiming Christians the true God began calling His faithful servants by another group name JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 65:15

Arda1000:
they weren’t Christians but taught you Christianity lmao,
Your illustration isn’t even compatible

They thought our people POLITICS not CHRISTIANITY, the first set of Christians that set their foot in Africa are Jehovah's Witnesses!

Jerryhare:
So it was God's Holy spirit that shown you the way to a traditional herbalist shrine for healing right?

Who created the HERBS?

Jerryhare:
This best describe the two of you, Fake CAC member that believes more in traditional herbs than the TENENTS OF HIS CHURCH CAC and you that can't do without visiting a traditional herbalist for healing
Attached is Psalms 104:10-16 seek for Holy Spirit for interpretation

Well it's God's Holy Spirit that's teaching us to make use of what God created for our use!

litigator:
Have you ever read the Holy Quran?
What are the major difference between the Biblical account and the Quranic account of Joseph (Yusuf PBH)
You can look both up in Surah Yusuf and Genesis.
Now come back with answers on why one of the two religion should be better or more supreme than the other?

I was born a Muslim so i know both and the TRUTH is my concern!

delkuf:
How was the Lord Jesus Christ given birth to without his mother Mary having sex with any man?. So you are the one that gave the Lord Jesus Christ a materialize body. So according to you, the Lord Jesus Christ had a body that can make disciples see him even though he is a spirit

That body is not the flesh and blood sacrificed for sin!

Arda1000:
They had the Bible and we had the land.
And they said to us, "Close your eyes and pray." And when we opened our eyes they had the land and we had the Bible.
1. - THEY SAID THOU SHALL NOT KILL... But they murdered over 8 million of our brothers.
2. - THEY SAID YOU SHALL NOT STEAL... But they stole our riches, gold and silver.
3. - THEY SAID THOU SHALL NOT GREEDY THY NEIGHBOR'S WIFE, But they raped married women, teenagers and girls.
4. - THEY SAID YOU WOULDN'T LIE... But they cheated with the cross in their hand.

The truth is that the people that first came to Africa with the Bible aren't Christians but politicians!
To illustrate imagine your son went out saying "dad, i want to go and barb my air" he returns with lots of scars (bruises) on his head. Will you agree that it's a real barber that did such job?

Please read the Bible and note the words of Jesus of Nazareth the man called "CHRIST" and use your own God's given brains to solve the riddle!

litigator:
Hmmmm! So, God is a Christain?
If yes, how do you prove this to the Jews and the second largest religion.

The title CHRIST means SAVIOUR so Christians are people who live all their lives trying to save their fellowman, but when we talk about salvation then we need to address the issue of safety.
From what exactly has CHRIST come to save mankind?
That aside, then the issue of Christianity being the official religion in heaven.
Jesus of Nazareth once said:

“I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" John 14:6

Then on the last day with his disciples he said:

“All authority has been given me in HEAVEN and on the earth. Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” Matthew 28:18-20

To verify if this first century Jewish carpenter truly have all authority in HEAVEN there are certain instance we need to consider so as to know the TRUTH {John 8:32} but funny enough an atheist wouldn't like to discuss on that all they just want is spectacular shows about the supernatural of course we know that whether they see such or not that doesn't make anyone BELIEVE (TRUST) in God because even demons who are supernaturals themselves knows that God exists yet they are not ready to obey Him. James 2:19

So whether an atheist see supernatural things or not that doesn't mean obedience from their part but then if they want to reason true disciples of Christ are fully competent and completely equipped to give anyone who truly cares a reason for our faith in God! 1Peter 3:15

What kind of religion do they practice in heaven?

The two major points you need to figure out in this question is: RELIGION and HEAVEN.
It's humans here on earth that practice religion so whether you like it or not there is evidence of religion everywhere you go on planet earth but when you now add HEAVEN then you're making it complex for yourself because no one has any evidence of heaven neither has anyone ever been there to bring back a video footage of what goes on in heaven. So you're asking a question and at the same time complicating issues for yourself by adding the word HEAVEN.
If you're not a believer you shouldn't have any reason to talk about HEAVEN because it's invisible that's why it's appropriate for any commentator who wants to address this issue to come up with the opinion from religious angle since that is where the thought or idea of HEAVEN emanates.
In most cases i just laugh at some OPs on this forum when atheists who often claims they can't believe what they can't see raises questions about what they're not seeing!

cornelboy:
Where is the Babalola healing water
Yet members of CAC die of sickness every year.
Did Jesus condemn medicine yes or no?
Did Jesus say you should drink healing water yes or no?

The problem with faithless people is following the ideas of fellow humans and rejecting God's word!

God created HERBS for our use so when you pick any herb and use it for treatment you're putting faith in God who created the herbs for your use just as a sick person takes medicine prepared and prescribed by a trusted pharmacist. But when you now take in water just because Babalola who died young decades ago prescribed back then and you're ignoring the HERBS prescribed by the God who created you {Psalms 104:14} then in whom is your faith, God or man?
Even the doctors with all their knowledge about medicines will always tell you:

"We care (with what we know) but only God heals"

So to whose glory are they treating people with all their discoveries?
Is it not to God's glory?

Fools comparing themselves to Jesus Christ who created all things {Colossians 1:16} and knew exactly what he used in creating all the HERBS in the world which he himself told us that he created for our use {Psalms 104:14} perhaps this fools think Jesus needs to go and pluck the leave he himself created before curing the sick like imperfect humans who knew nothing about the power Jesus has that surpasses our technology will do.

Jerryhare:
We shouldn't blame you, your evil and satanic religion is the cause of your frustration, all you need is Holy Spirit

Ọmọ i eat herbs everyday!

johnw47:
job 15:12 Why doth thine heart carry thee away? and what do thy eyes wink at
false jw mad max
the roman catholics have there many statues(idols) of persons
you false jw have your many pictures(idols) of fellow false jw's
you are often praising false jw's, "the better performing group" etc.
Christians of God given faith mostly praise Christ, not fellow Christians
Isa 2:22  Stop regarding man, whose breath of life is in his nostrils; For why should he be esteemed

Idiot!
Why do you quote job and Isaiah?
Are they not humans whose breath are only in their nostrils?

FOOL!
God's people always remember and talk of our organization with the frontiers in faith {Hebrews 11:4-34; 12:1} so if your religion can't present faithful ones who have served faithfully in the past then know that you're no part of God's people!

delkuf:
Who told you the Lord Jesus Christ resurrected as a Spirit. I don't know you guys interpret the bible. The Lord Jesus Christ resurrected in flesh and blood. He show himself to his disciples and many other people. Stop misinforming others

The flesh and blood that he used as sacrifice to pay for sin shey?
Why are you people so daft?
How can a living human with flesh and blood walk up to another human and ask you to stick your finger into the hole in his palm where he was nailed to the stake yet the scriptures say his body was corrupted at death but raise without corruption? 1Corinthians 15:42
Or do you think Jesus sinned to make his body corrupt at death?
Well what all his followers saw was a materialized body to make himself visible to them just as angels do put on materialized bodies in the past to become visible to humans.
Jesus was raised as a spirit being! 1Corinthians 15:45

Valkrie:
I alway laugh when people try to use the bible to justify or tell story of what happened between the gods...!!! If a any truly want to learn they should make search for much more older text that predate the bible...!! Bible contain just few truth and a thousand lies...!!!

I laugh when you think you're wise {Proverbs 1:7; 9:10} yet you know nothing regarding mankind's problem.

What is the difference between TRUTH {John 17:17} and LIE? John 8:44
And how does TRUTH or LIE affects the human society?

Jerryhare:
You and your second needs Holy Spirit, Jesus Christ is my Rabbi and I'm following his teachings and commandments with the help of Holy Spirit in me

Even this evening i still ate HERBS, go and tell your stupid god!

Your problem is lack of appreciation or let's just say you're an ingrate!

Life is not all about what you're able to acquire rather it's how much you're able to give yourself FIRST before thinking of what to share with others. Most ingrates like you often look at those living higher than them but will never think of many like: Those in the
©Grave who can't even talk to their neighbours because they're dead as in no activity at all.
©Hospitals only surviving on medications they can't even feel the taste of food.
©Dungeons kidnapped either for rituals or ransom before their release.
©Psychiatric hospitals that their brains can't fathom anything good.
©Deformed totally due to accidents making them rely on others for food.

All these people are condemning you for being hale and healthy yet complaining while you're better off a million times than them!

Paramountgift:
I think you mean Rebecca. Yes she did. Not just her, virtually every woman at the time. Jewelry had always been a symbol of decoration and beauty for people, especially God's children, until Exodus 33.

God's people have always made contributions that doesn't mean they're not left with valuables after they've contributed heartily.
There is no place in the Bible where God condemned jewelries for women so His people will forever make use of jewelries! Ezekiel 16:8-13