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Templee333:
REASON #1
Jw isn't the truth that they claim to be! Some Jw members wake up to the fact that what they refer to as "the truth" is, infact, a falsehood from the pit of hell. The reason that active members dont realize dis is dat the've been brainwashed to believe that they are the only group practising the true religion & all other groups are satanic so they need not listen to them. But once a member starts to reason soundly,he will realise this & the Jw will label him/her apostate & shun him/her

John 6:66

JESUS isn't the truth that he claim to be! Some disciples wake up to the fact that what he refer to as "the truth" is, infact, a falsehood from the pit of hell!

TenQ:
His living was no message but in his unconscious state, demons started repenting. Some of the repentant demons probably started the JW organisation.

Thanks for the exposition

You're always annoyed whenever you receive interpretations that's contrary to what you were taught. It would have been wisdom on your part if you also leave other interpretations without harsh response just as those in the thread did when you presented your own interpretation.

Jesus was DEAD and at death he knew nothing just as God's word says {Ecclesiastes 9:5-6} he was only conscious before death that's why he begged God to rescue him from death. So how can a dead man preach?

Demons are fallen angels so they don't repent rather Jesus' death is to alert them that their expiration date is right at the corner as they all witnessed the firstborn of all creations whom they all knew very as the commander in chief of all heavenly armies became inactivity (dead) for three days.

elated177:
It is all about Commandments and obedience to them. Don't you know what Yahushua the Messiah was teaching in that passage?

If it's all about commandments Jesus won't tell the man who has been keeping it all from his youth something else remains!

So it has nothing to do with commandments that's why you can't see anywhere in the New Testament where the Christians emphasize on the Old Testament commandments rather they mentioned just few things that Christians need to keep!

Act 15:29

slimchimex:
This one na Bible teaching. The truth found in God's word the Bible.

Indisputable!

TenQ:
Jesus died and in his unconscious state, he preached to angels!?

It's his condition (inactivity for three days) that became a preaching to demons in Tartarus! 2Peter 2:4

hopefulLandlord:
disturbing public peace by preaching loudly about a dead Jew which Jews themselves don't believe in is allowed in useless and backward countries like Nigeria, Somalia etc. But in developed countries where things work and they don't have to pray to a dead Jew for electrical power, journey mercies, sleeping and waking up etc then you'd be punished for loudly screaming useless words

True Christian only visit their neighbours not making noise in the streets, that's not the way Jesus taught his disciples! Matthew 12:19

Before Jesus Israelites are used to prophets shouting in their neighbourhood {Matthew 3:1-3} this is appropriate because their God is their rightful King so like town-criers sent to announce or warn the citizens about what their ruler says the Israelites prophets makes noise in their community. But when Jesus began his ministry he will not make noise in the community rather he speak one on one with individuals {Matthew 4:19; 21} and invited them to join him in visiting others in their homes! Matthew 10:11-13

Why change the arrangement?

Well it's because the God of Israel is like a stranger to other nations and soon the Jewish disciples of Jesus have to go to other nations preaching and teaching them {Matthew 28:19-20} it will be inappropriate making noise in the community where the inhabitants don't know the God of Israel. So they must speak with individuals willing to chat with them! Malachi 3:16

The Christians in the first century met someone named Apollos preaching about Jesus of Nazareth but he was using John's style of preaching (shouting in the neighbourhood) so a Christian couple called him and taught him how to do things appropriately! Act 18:24-26

It's a sin misrepresenting Jesus as noisemakers in the neighbourhood, we need to know that Christianity is a movement commissioned by the world's most wonderful counselor of all time {Isaiah 9:6} so everywhere it is practiced there's no law (humanely) that could be made against what Jesus set with God's Holy Spirit:

On the other hand, the fruitage of the spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, mildness, self-control. Against such things there is no law. Galatians 5:22-23

They are not CHRISTIANS rather they're misinformed Churchgoers!

Templee333:
NOW TO YOU ALL THERE ASKING THE NAME OF MY CHURCH
Go & check 1s the name of Abraham's church,Moses church,Jesus,Paul,Peter,James & John's Church. Post their churches names here & I shall tell u mine

The God of Israel said they're all members of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

 “You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.”  “I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you. So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God. Isaiah 43:10-12

Paul mentioned the names of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES right from Abel down to his own day {Hebrews 11:4-32} and concluded that they are all WITNESSES of JEHOVAH! Hebrews 12:1

JEHOVAH hid this name from all the agents of Satan so they're all claiming Christians with different names called denominations but in 1931 when Jesus has called out all peace lovers out of Babylon the Great {Revelations 17:5; 18:4} to perfect a global family of peace loving worshipers the true God began calling us by another group name hidden from all false religionists:

"JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" Isaiah 65:15

This is the mountain (religion) that's far above all other mountains (religions) {Micah 4:1} and that's why all of you can see it as if it can't be hidden like your own religion that you can't mentioned it's name publicly! Matthew 5:14-16

Bilabong:
Not bad if the laws of the land allows it.

If someone is preaching about a religion in the streets (making noise in the neighbourhood) as long as it's not about Jesus of Nazareth such a person is practicing what his religion teaches like masqueraders and other religionists often do in the streets with noice, but whoever mentions the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth while making noise in the streets is committing a sin!

AntiChristian:
Kobojunkie do you concur?

Ọmọ nah Jehovah's Witnesses prayer he dey take style teach you. Do you in particular concur?

Templee333:
as u continue 2 follow jws,u will soon realize that ur membership in the CDA is disloyalty to Jehovah & his organization.You will need to cancel ur association with CDA in order to please Jehovah. Just wait and see

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm you're misquoting Jesus' rules instead of asking his true disciples to TEACH you!

True CHRISTIANS must participate in the development of their community, that's the duty of all normal humans. But we must not participate in townsmen meetings!

What is the difference?

In Lagos different tribes like Hausa, Ibo, Yorùbá, Fulani, Efik, Ibibio, Nupe, Igala and so on are members of the community. If they're having a meeting tribalism can't work there because they're looking for something that's good for all concerned. But when it's involves only members of a certain town exclusively that is where POLITICS and RACISM are promoted.

Jesus taught us to view everyone no matter where they come from as neighbours but that will be extremely difficult when you're attending townsmen meetings because there the main topic of their meeting is to promote members of their race not the betterment and welfare of all people!

TenQ:
Here is the main scripture of reference

1Pet 3:18-20:
"For Christ also has once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached to the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the long-suffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water."

Jesus was DEAD just like all other creatures so in the grave he couldn't do anything because at death there's nothing anybody can do {Ecclesiastes 3:19-20; 9:5-6, 10} that's why Paul said he prayed fervently to God who can SAVE him! Hebrews 5:7

So what did Peter meant saying at death Jesus preached to spirits in prison?

Those angels have fallen and they know that God's Kingdom will not permit them to continue as immortals {Mark 1:24} but they don't know what will happen to them since they're not humans that are mortals. 1Peter 1:12
So the death and inactivity of the firstborn of all creation {Colossians 1:15} PREACHED {WARNED) them that God has the power to send all of them back to NON-EXISTENCE just as Jesus was inactive for three days!

Lighthouse50:
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION OR LANDLORD'S MEETING.

When Jesus sent his disciples go out for preaching and teaching in their community it's to make the world one big and happy family! Isaiah 2:2-4
So faith brings imperfect (sinful) but humble people from all races under the earth to form that family known today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES, in every society they stands out and when it comes to community development we work together for peaceful coexistence but when talking about picking up weapons against our neighbours in support of any movement they will say NO! Psalms 46:9

Templee333:
A CAUTION FOR ALL JW
Dont defend ur organization,defend urself, don't defend ur members & ur church name,defend urself

Wow!
You're telling God's people not to follow the faith of past faithful servants of God shey?

What a pity?

Well for your information, that's the HERITAGE of God's people. No servant of God defends himself or herself rather we always defend PURE WORSHIP.
For your information that's why our God said:

No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their righteousness is of me, saith the LORD. Isaiah 54:17

Our God has always been faithful to people who defends PURE WORSHIP with the last breath in them not people who are defending themselves because we are all imperfect as in sinners like you but our duty is to IDENTIFY God's organization and defend it just as:
Moses, Joshua, Rahab, Ruth, Samson, Deborah, Gideon, Samuel, David, Elijah and a host of faithful WITNESSES in the past did.
The firstborn of God's family (Jesus Christ) also defended God's organization till death.
When Jesus pointed to a group of people ready to learn and practice what he is saying calling them his family {Matthew 12:46-50} you guys don't know that he's laying the foundation stones of what the world know today as JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

Well let all of you know that God's organization is the one and only thing all the angels in heaven and faithful servants of God right from Abel till today are DEFENDING not themselves and that's what you're all here to attack not our personalities, you only turn on individual JWs out of rage for standing up for PURE WORSHIP!
Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego weren't DEFENDING themselves in Babylon that's why Nebuchadnezzar was furious against them for DEFENDING another form of worship against his own after all the kind gestures he had and hospitality towards them! Daniel 3:13-20

ANTIlSLAM:
Shey dey condemned them as you're condemning the good gesture bestow on you by the catholic missionaries abi your own religion occultist bible tell u say you should judge? Stop lying okay

Is it condemnation when one say a group is not doing what Jesus taught?

You guys are really funny walahi talahi and you easily gets angered at the truth instead of rejoicing with it {1Corinthians 13:6} because i said "Catholics aren't Christians" many of you came with series of questions and after giving you the answers that's explanatory you were provoked some insulting, some abusing, some cursing and you even CONDEMN saying your fellowman should be gun down!

Ọmọ let's TEACH you what is in that book because God's Kingdom is coming and many will perish for not IDENTIFYING the MARKS of true faith! Matthew 7:21-23

cornelboy:
I think someone said you should be gunned down. Forking hilarious.

OK you noticed that!
Well such an idiot will shout killers! killers! When talking about Boko Haram!
I wonder the difference between two persons whose intentions of their hearts is to kill those whose faith sounds odd.
Thanks to JEHOVAH for choosing our Master, Lord, King and Judge Jesus Christ {Matthew 17:5} who will not judge by looks {Isaiah 11:3} rather he will judge by the abundance of what people have in their hearts! Luke 6:45

Jashub:
Your hot water is ready sir

Surely Jesus is the world's most wonderful counselor of all time! Isaiah 9:6

He once said a man looking lustfully at a woman to the point of having sex with her has already committed adultery with her {Matthew 5:28} hence it's from the abundance of your heart that you're speaking. Luke 6:45

If you've resolved to pour hot water on preachers who comes to your homes {Matthew 10:14-15} what is the difference between you and those killing people who never hurt them simply because there is difference in beliefs?

Ọmọ you're a terrorist in disguise as in wolves in sheep's clothing, it's just that only JWs have what it takes to unleash the beast in you!

Templee333:
Alright, u can join them if u r convinced its ur truth. But have u researched their history? And i wonder why many are leaving if they actually have the truth and practise genuine love as they claim. They can pretend to be nice when they want to convert u, but if u check in ex-jw groups on facebook & reddit, u might have one or 2 things 2 learn abt them & the other side of their "truth"

Don't you also wonder why many left Jesus {John 6:66} if he is actually the TRUTH as he claim? John 14:6

cornelboy:
The good Samaritan is a perfect example just as you've explained. Though he did good by helping his neighbour but his religion was not approved. Only the Jews had pure worship.

When the truth is disturbing hypocrites that's when they resort to violence but because there is freedom of speech, expression, worship and association, insults and abusive speeches becomes their next line of action.
That's why i continue using the truth they can't refute to punish them mildly and gently without leaving the thread.
I just want them to know that they're in no way different from the terrorists they're condemning. If a female among them can think of hot water to pour on preachers how much more are their males?

Templee333:
A QUICK FACT FOR ALL JW
Not every ex-jw were disfellowshiped & it is not craving 4 a sinful life that make devoted members walk away frm the Jw organisation.
I hope this message help some1

Jesus was teaching his disciples who has been with him for years and all of a sudden he began sounding like encouraging cannibalism so listen to what happens:

When they heard this, many of his disciples said: “This speech is shocking; who can listen to it? John 6:60

When Jesus didn't change the topic this is what happened next:
Because of this, many of his disciples went off to the things behind and would no longer walk with him. John 6:66

Jesus looked behind him and saw the twelve:

So Jesus said to the Twelve: “You do not want to go also, do you?" John 6:67

But why aren't the twelve leaving with the others?

Simon Peter answered him: “Lord, whom shall we go away to? You have sayings of everlasting life. We have believed and have come to know that you are the Holy One of God" John 6:68-69

When faithful people stood firm for salvation unfaithful will take their leave for reasons best known to them.
JWs remains obedient under the Governing Body (group we believe is chosen by Jesus to oversee his sheep on planet earth)

To whom does those taking their leave goes?
Well you can ask Courz at least he should be able to tell you a better performing group than Jehovah's Witnesses!

cornelboy:
Hmmm...
This is not hard na.
Building hospitals and schools is not the work Jesus gave his followers nor part of the fruits of the holy spirit.

Anyone could build hospitals and do charity work.

You're wrong! According to some people here all those building hospitals and doing charity works have become Christians AUTOMATICALLY!

Templee333:
haaa bros! Any other person can say that abt his religion/church. The mormon church (later day saint) also believe they are the only ones practising the truth.

What's wrong with your own that makes it unworthy of such?

I was a Muslim when i saw it, Cornelboy wasn't a JW when he saw it, which means you're only following where the crowd goes not what you can boast of as truth! Matthew 7:13-14

ANTIlSLAM:
Do they condemned the same hospital they visited as you are condemning the hospital that healed you?

OK your pastors believe those Indians will go to your heaven because they treated them, right?

Trevor007007:
Courz you have been deported, please inform Max to join you send me your contact info

He was disfellowshiped so the obsession too dey him body!

Trevor007007:
. It seems like you don't know that independent thinking from Mr Adam and Mrs Eve brought us to this situation that we are living today? And yes the JW's do not free think because it is against Gods plan, we imperfect humans are not designed to free think our way on everything.


Why do you think Jesus paryed any time he has issues, why does he not just free think and solve his problems himself? Look at scientist of today they are independent thinkers, but look at what there free thinking have caused us? From climate change due to human mismanagement, to the creation of nuclear bombs and other destructive devices for killing ourselves.


Free thinkers or independent thinkers in the churches or mosques of today what hope of true peace have they brought for themselves or mankind? ( Isaiah 59:7). Nothing just pain and mistery, so God Almighty did not design us to free think without his intervention, that is why we pray to him for assistance and how to make the right choices in life. I love JW

He is a traditionalist who doesn't believe in whatever the Bible has to say. He only comes around to support other critics against God's people just as Jesus foretold! Matthew 10:22

But when he's done he will tell them to their face that they're talking trash!

Maynnmann:
What does “holy bible” mean?
Holy means whole/ complete, Bible means books.
It means whole/complete book.
Yes. If you read the kjv which contains the New Testament and tanakh, you are reading the tanakh.
This are basics, wow!

Templee333:
I didnt see Jehovah's Witnesses in those verses neither did i see the classification of JW/ Other churches. SO TRY AGAIN DEAR

When the first century Christians were talking with Jews claiming JESUS is the Messiah it was really difficult for people like you to believe it.

WHY?

Because there was no Jesus written in the scriptures rather the name God's prophets revealed is "Emmanuel" {Isaiah 7:14; 8:8} that makes it difficult for most Jews to believe that the young man Jesus could be the Christ when there has never been anyone with that name neither did any prophet foretold such a name.

So if you're expecting to see a group name mentioned in the Bible, well let me hint you that the group name "CHRISTIANS" wasn't the name God intended for his worshipers it was borrowed from the inhabitants of Antioch {Act 11:26} but the true God only allowed His worshipers to use it to deceive Satan's agents because they will quickly take it up while God is planning to destroy all of them. Meanwhile the name He had in mind for His worshipers God promised to reveal when His true servants have been SEPARATED from among Satan's agents! Isaiah 65:15

Could that name be JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES?

Because God intended to call all His worshipers from Abel till date the same name {Hebrews 12:1} He first revealed it through a prophet {Isaiah 43:10-12} the group name CHRISTIANS can't go for Abel till John the baptist because they never knew Christ talkless practicing what he taught but they were all humble, faithful and obedient people including Jesus Christ himself is one of JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Revelations 1:5

May you have PEACE!

Courz has come again with his entertainment!

mhmsadyq:
You get problem!

You no get!

elated177:
Are you saying that the Israelites of old did not know the meanings of the Commandments which they were instructed to keep?
If it is no longer about the Commandments, what is it about now?

If it's all about commandments Jesus won't tell the man who kept all those commandments that there's something else! Luke 18:18-23

MaxInDHouse:
"It's those people carrying bags with umbrellas from house to house, they're the one and only group telling the truth but it's not easy to practice what they're saying even though we all know that what they're saying is true. That's why we always rejoice whenever we see some of them make mistakes so we can happily condemn their group to console ourselves that we're all the same. But my child that's the one and only group saying the truth"

Courz:
They boast about their pretence but get to know them and you will see nothing special. They are just like everyone else. Sinful, Arrogant, liars, diabolic, Thieves, name it! I pity people who get carried away with their False image. The image is just a cover. If you're an imperfect person, own it! If you did wrong, accept it, make changes then move on. Don't go about boasting when your fellow JWs disgrace you every day! Christians in general can be hypocrites, I admit. Don't claim to be more than what you are not! That's the problem with the JWs. They give you Fairy tales about themselves but Scandals are all over them!

Please who told you JWs aren't common people like all others?

Well the one and only thing that makes them different is their SUBMISSION which is a result of the inner person the individuals that comes together to form this organization are.

Zephaniah said:

Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you. Seek ye the LORD, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. Zephaniah 2:2-3

So members of God's organization are common people like others battling with bad habits {Romans 7:21-25} but one thing makes them unique before the true God they are meek at heart and ready to OBEY those taking the lead in God's organization! Hebrews 13:7, 17

That's why none of those criticizing them can present those teaching them because they're not ready to be submissive to anyone yet they're claiming they belong to Christ who established Christianity with those that must TEACH others! Matthew 28:20

Templee333:
I don't doubt anything (EVIL) said abt the Jw. They are capable of being anything! They pretend

When i was still a Muslim a fellow Muslim (advanced in age) once told me:

"Do you truly want to know the religion that is saying the TRUTH undiluted?"

I looked up to the old man without saying a word, then he concluded:

"It's those people carrying bags with umbrellas from house to house, they're the one and only group telling the truth but it's not easy to practice what they're saying even though we all know that what they're saying is true. That's why we always rejoice whenever we see some of them make mistakes so we can happily condemn their group to console ourselves that we're all the same. But my child that's the one and only group saying the truth"

Back then i was still a Muslim with my friends chatting at a restaurant regarding how our Imams and Pastors are desperate about money.

I tried to engage the old man further but he refused to say more because i wanted to ask him why he's not a JW if he knew all these?

I am stubborn so i decided to take up the challenge at least to prove to myself that the old man got it all wrong but here i am today a zealous preacher with JWs.

So it's not that they're perfectly practicing pure worship and many of them do commit blunders while trying to practice what they teach because it's not the old personality that all humans are used to.
YES! Only JWs know what pure worship means!

Konjiboii:
Depopulation is all I can think of.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, please Sir have you been with the military intelligence?

Templee333:
which one come b dumb? Oga tell me where u made ur research & find out that its only Jw that practise the truth of the Bible. Anyway,it might be in the moon 'cos those living on earth already knw the rate of jws hypocrisy & deception. You can as well continue ur moon research & feed urself with ideas of some 8 old men frm America. Maybe they are frm the moon 'cos their ideas are so unearthly & absurd

The truth is that it's not everyone that can take harsh inquisition lightly!

The way you were questioning me despite the calm response i was giving you from the Bible can get on the nerves of someone who is not that patient. Everyone knows that a research on what true believers ought to do should be based on what is WRITTEN in the scriptures not what people around you think:

Now these were more noble-minded than those in Thes·sa·lo·niʹca, for they accepted the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily to see whether these things were so. Act 17:11

Of course Luke wouldn't have commended the Beroeans if they were mixing up different views to judge how pure worship should be!