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Judah's son dishonored the heritage by pouring away the semens which would have keep his brother as the sole beneficiary of becoming the ancestor of the Messiah so God is not pleased with him that's why he was struck dead.
It's surely inspired word of our own God!

"By their FRUITS you will know them" Matthew 7:16-18

I'm waiting to see the fine WORKS of these people behind the information on the internet so i can be sure they are from God!

Making a vow to the true God is good but then what is the motive behind your vow?

If it's about how you will become rich or gain special favour then forget it because the true God has no business with the people of the nations, He only deal with one single nation (Israel) and ever since they turned him down He concentrate on the newly born spiritual family called Christians.

So go and read the way He deal with the Christians, try to figure out if He ever respond to anyone who makes a vow after then for special favour. The one and only thing God will do for any human now is to extend the warmth hand of salvation which has nothing to do with material gain!

Please where is "TRINITY" written in the Bible?

Coly2012:
A wise and intelligent person will ask what and what have this man done for the members,his people and community before passing blames and instructing on how a man should spend his money.

Anyhow a man chose to spend his money is no man's business, the only clause in this case is the religious title ascribed to the philanthropist, a layman will conclude that this man is doing this for Jesus but he's just trying to create false impression which has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth.

First of all the money he used in doing this can't be his PERSONAL money rather it's what he has defrauded his gullible followers to contribute in the name of tithes and offerings for God. So if you now call such his money are you saying the fact?

Secondly tithes collected in ancient times are used to pay the workers in the temple who will also pay tithes which will be given to widows, orphans and homeless travelers in Israel while the offerings is to buy the things used in the temple like salt, incense, candles and the rest.
So no priests has the right to touch God's money and start spending it to gain favour from men.

Lastly Jesus never create the impression of giving people what they don't deserve. Some may liken this to the feeding of thousands Jesus did back then but it totally differ.
HOW?
Jesus never invited people for free food rather it was because they came to listen to his teachings and they couldn't get food anywhere around the villages that could be enough for the crowd that Jesus decided to feed them in a miraculous way {Luke 9:10-17} afterwards they began looking for such free food again but Jesus turned them down making them know that he's not a philanthropist! John 6:25-27

HELL simply means GRAVE nobody torments anyone after death, death is the end of all life!

Akhee:
But the people on the pictures don't look poor or less privileged.

Less privileged are people who has less so any opportunity of free food they'll avail themselves for it so never mind their looks they are surely less privileged, you can't find a child of any wealthy Nigerian in that place!

Philanthropic indeed but this has nothing to do with faith in Jesus Christ!

If truly the tithe is still in operation as part of the requirements or duties of a Christian then nothing should stop you from paying what you vow to God. Ecclesiastes 5:4-5
Back then in Israel widows and orphans are the ones who benefits from the tithes been paid without having to contribute {Deuteronomy 14:28-29} so instead of giving the beggar on the street God has made arrangements for taking care of widows and orphans, and if you look at the picture it's obvious that the woman is a widow while the boy is an orphan which means if it's back then they supposed to benefit from the tithes you're paying to the temple.
We are in Nigeria and it's 2022 c.e. when Jesus has established another covenant in which the tithe is no longer in operation {Hebrews 7:11-12} so we should help the needy in our midst otherwise when the boy in the picture grows up and become joyless nothing stops him from joining bad gangs that will come with weapons to rob you!

elated177:
Maxindhouse, I have made my submissions.

With the exemption of pointing to the group of people known globally as the one been persecuted.
I know that apart from the group name "Jehovah's Witnesses" everyone on this forum will love to be my friend because i talk with clear thoughts on issues having to do with the love, joy and peace of humanity as a whole but at the mention of the group that taught me these things many have become my persecutors always looking for ways to criticize Max simply because of that group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES"

PoliteActivist:
Nice chatting with y'all.
As a recap, here are our conclusions
1) God exists (too many circumstantial evidence)
2) Jesus is God, part of the one true God, unlike any other person ever sent
3) Muhammad did receive a revelation. He was too illiterate to have made up anything close to the Koran and Islamic practices
Y'all stay bkessed

Good!
So this is your own PERSONAL conclusion.

Mind you Sir, you're not my brother, you are my neighbour because both of us are humans but since we're not related in any way you can't possibly be my brother.

People relate in three ways:
Through blood~ we come from the same family so i can call you "my brother"

Through business~ if we're into the same kind of trade you will be my brother as we keep watching each other's back.

Through Faith~ if we share the same beliefs i will always like to share thoughts with you.

But since we're not related in either of these three then it means we are just neighbours.

Farewell!

PoliteActivist:
Because God is not the author of the book. God does not author books. Just as in the Koran you can clearly see the perfection of parts of it. Then see the poor quality of where man snuck in his own input

Even though i was once a Muslim after studying the Bible i discovered that it cannot be compared with the Qu'ran or any other book at that.
God is the Author of the Bible, if you don't agree there's no problem that's my own submission Sir!

PoliteActivist:
If I said that I'd indeed be a slow person. God did not author the Bible. The Bible contains His words but compiled by men

Just as a successful Author dictates to his secretary who writes with a pen or type with the typewriter and give it to printers to work on the typesetting so that his message could go far and near. Then someone concluded that the book will be filled with inconsistencies since it's not the Author that dis everything!
Even if his enemies are working against his message do you think the Author won't read through before releasing the message to avoid confusion?

Well let's just leave this because it's certain we will never agree!

PoliteActivist:
Really? So my brother why do you talk like a person incapable of a single independent thought?!

You like trouble walahi talahi!

Why is it so difficult for you to accept that God can't be the Author of a book yet it will be filled with inconsistencies?

badboyTee:
[s] I don't believe you

OK now you feel it's a lie shey?
Well that's what happens when you don't know what people have achieved or their net worth yet telling them they're wasting their time!

PoliteActivist:
Slowpoke is not an insult if someone is talking like a slow person - eg equating the Bible with God qualifies you a slow person, or slow poke!

Well perhaps you are a SLOWPOKE for saying God could be the author of inconsistency!

PoliteActivist:
Once again, the Bible CONTAINS God's words. It was compiled, translated, abd edited by men! God does not micro-manage human affairs like that - as long as His end purpose is achieved!

This is better.
So hold onto what you think about God's word while i hold onto mine.
No wahala!

badboyTee:
lol lol am a programmer and a web designer don't think am an idiot like you who thinks a savior is taking them to a garden where they die no more lies !!!! Lies!!! That you have been taught since you were born pls take it off your head and see how free you are

Well i'm a businessman in my early fifties, married with two children, one is still studying for his masters while the other is a successful farmer in Brazil.
So in what way are you better than me?

I believe in the Prince of Peace and this has helped me to connect millions of peace loving people throughout the earth who are now my brothers and sisters in the faith.

If you feel you have a life it's good but you should keep what you have since you're not doing any better than others around you!

PoliteActivist:
I have never insulted anybody. You are the one stylishly insulting me by saying all these.
With due respect, you should spend less time on NL and more time reading, if you want to be an efective defender of JW

Do you want me to paste how many times you've called people "SLOWPOKE" on this same thread?

Well i don't think telling you what i believe is an insult. God is perfect so His word (Bible) is perfect but if you don't agree with that there's no need arguing further keep what you think while i keep mine.
No wahala!

PoliteActivist:
See what I said about finishing Elementary school. What sort of educated person confuses the Bible with God??!
Try READING. It'll do you some good. Start by reading that article

If you say you believe in God but concluded His word is inconsistent then i think something is wrong somewhere!

badboyTee:
I hope you wear off of this your dumb believe soon so you don't blame your self for wasting so much time on an imaginary prince

The funny thing about atheists like you is how you people talk about WASTING TIME yet you people don't achieve anything better than those who believe in life, in fact most of you are frustrated and jobless!

PoliteActivist:
I have never insulted you or anyone. I asked with all due respect if you finished elementary school because you are talking like it.
You have been shown verbatim some 70 inconsistencies in the Bible. Instead of trying to refute them (which you can't, because they are true) you keep robotically repeating the same thing!

You're quoting verses critics told you but to me those aren't inconsistencies rather the critics don't understand God's word so to them it's inconsistencies.
Please if you don't believe the Bible is perfect there's no need insulting or abusing others.
You've been doing this that's why Dtruthspeaker return your insults and you started calling me but i don't do such it's either we agree or disagree!

achorladey:
Rather that scripture states
As for the heavens, they belong to Jehovah,
But the earth he has given to the sons of men.
Those are the dangers of speculations, assumptions
Here is what that person that initial post was meant for stated. According to Countlaka
You can see the poster made no mention of lifestyle related to flesh and blood.
In reality Countlaka was right in stating humans shall make heaven.
It is not a case of readjustment, but a case of reading people's post well enough before making comment and avoiding planting ideas not in the Bible into it.

OK thank you Sir!

badboyTee:
to me you still make no sense

Well if taking weapons away from people's hearts makes no sense to you then keep whatever makes sense to you while i keep mine!
No wahala!

PoliteActivist:
Go and actually READ for once, not spending all your time on NL making baseless arguments. READ so you can do more than repeat what others told you.
Go READ the article so you'd get the intention, the nuances

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses, remember!

So when i tell you what we believe you don't have to start arguing with me simply because you have read our books, that's the same way you read the Bible and said God is contradicting Himself so even if i tell you what we believe it's the same thing you will resort to.
Muhammad got no Revelations from God because the Bible has concluded all that's divine revelation from God!

PoliteActivist:
Guy, with due respect, did you finish elementary school?
Seriously, what is wrong with you?! You keep repeating the same things. Who turned you into a robot??
The Bible is a BOOK compiled by MEN! Albeit an extraordinary book containing God's words and wisdom!

My friend, why do you agitate when people don't agree with you?
You've been insulting everyone on this thread simply because they don't agree with you.
You said you're done with me yet you're still coming back to quote me.
If truly you're sure of what you believe there's no need insulting or abusing people up and down.
Hold onto what you have and leave others to what they have.
I hate exchanging hurtful words with people simply because they don't agree with me.

God's word can never be inconsistent that is what i will never agree with anyone but if that's your own conclusion there's no need to be angry just keep to your conclusion while i keep mine!

elated177:
I don't think you understood it?

I have substantiated using the scriptures so if you have anything different you can as well present it because i studied the scriptures before i can use it to back up my submission!

PoliteActivist:
Guy, go read it for yourself and post here where it says Muhammad never had a revelation. They're saying the exact opposite.
And guy, this is a discussion forum - you comment on things and posts you feel like commenting about!

I already told you that the Watchtower did not go into substantiating according to what is written in the Bible.
They presented what the Muslims are saying about their religious book!

PoliteActivist:
Stop intentionally marking yourself an ignoramus.
You know quote well he was talking about adding or subtracting from THE BOOK OF REVELATION!
Book of Revelation that almost did not even make it into the Bible!
And please stop saying I don't believe the Bible.
I just won't be a LYING DISHONEST person like you and pretend it has no inconsistencies!

God's word has inconsistencies!

That is impossible!

achorladey:
This is where you go back to starting point. Here you are @ 1:50 pm
@ 6:44 pm just under 5 hours
The question becomes what has God given to sons of MEN?
A. Heaven
B. Earth
What are those 144,000 men going to do in HEAVEN that belongs to God and not given to MEN?
Your God never promised mankind heaven @ 1:50 pm has become God promised 144,000 mankind heaven @ 6:44 pm.

God said He created heaven for spirit beings while earth is for mankind! Psalms 115:16

I was talking about humans who may think of going to heaven anticipating the lifestyle related to flesh and blood.

Of course humans will be transformed into spirits before they can go to heaven .

Thanks for the readjustment!

PoliteActivist:
The correct thing is:
IF ALL CHRISTIANS WERE JW WE WOULD ALL BE MUSLIMS
The below is from Watchtower online. Go read it. They even acknowledge Muhammad did have a revelation

Guy, the post is not addressed to you so stop being presumptuous and concentrate on what is meant for you.

Muhammad never got any Revelations but fabricated everything just to live big.

The Watchtower expressed what the Muslims claimed not what the Bible say the book you're quoting wasn't meant to create controversy but here we are talking about facts based on thorough research!

elated177:
Check the op again.
Study the Scriptures for yourself. Obey the Commandments of YHVH Almighty. Observe what happens around you. You will realize those who Yahushua the Messiah said will be persecuted.

I already know that's why i commented!