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The issue of gathering means a lot to the true God {Job 1:6} because that's where His worshipers (intelligent creatures like angels and humans) could be informed fully and we shouldn't forget that our very existence largely depends on such info. Jesus reminds us of what God said to the Israelites in ancient times: "Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth." Matthew 4:4; Deuteronomy 8:3 Of course we have physical foods used to feed and nourish our physical bodies but the most important is life saving informations which we can only get through careful reading, diligent study and wholesome association with fellow believers {Hebrews 10:24-25} even those taking the lead in worship needs encouragement also from their fellow worshipers! Romans 1:11-12 and Isaiah 35:3 One may ask: Can't i just read my Bible and pray to my God without having to mingle with people? Are these not the same people causing the problems i'm facing? So why must i assemble with them? Such kind of reasoning is deceiving! Why? Because it's when we gather together the Holy Spirit is released to influence our thinking skills {Matthew 18:20} so as to understand what we are reading in God's word {John 14:26} and it's when we understands that we can all apply to enjoy it's practical benefits which is peace! John 14:27 Some have had deep thoughts about the gathering of Jehovah's Witnesses saying: APOPTOSIS: BafanaBafana: Oye0404: XXLDICK: freethinker01: boss1310: Deway52: Love800:The misconception most people often have about the gathering of God's people is highlighted in those three questions i asked above as some misconstrued worshipers of God for perfect humans. We all have our individual weaknesses {Romans 7:21-23} but when we assemble for pure worship which is in spirit and truth God's Holy Spirit takes control so that by working together the fine qualities of God's Holy Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23} could be noticed not in each sinner {Romans 2:23} but as sinners come together to do God's will! Matthew 5:14-16 |
IykeSent:Jesus is the only begotten son of the true God but there is one thing that makes Jesus happy mostly: The congregation of humans worshiping God! Read what he himself said: "I rejoiced over his habitable earth, And I was especially fond of the sons of men. Proverbs 8:31 Jesus had a physical human mother and brothers as well as sisters yet when called upon that his physical family are seeking his attention Jesus responded: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother.” Matthew 12:48-50 YES! Jesus derived joy in the presence of true worshipers where different people no matter their skin color, status, class, language or profession humbly come together to praise God by doing His will! Psalms 133:1 WHY? Because it's only within the congregation of true worshipers God will command His blessings as in His eternal blessings! Psalms 133:3 So whoever fails to associate with such a gathering will not inherit God's eternal blessings! Hebrews 10:24-31 You must love God with all your soul, strength, heart and mind {Mark 12:30} yet there's no way you can prove your love for God if you don't cherish and love the congregation of His worshipers! 1John 4:20 S |
IykeSent:Absolute truth! But you will be surprised if you know why we must meet together as ONE group! |
IykeSent:You can learn more from Jehovah's Witnesses in your neighbourhood, try to reason with them on scriptural topics. That's how i became a Bible student! |
Do you baptize them in the name of the father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit? |
Jerryhare:The bottom line is they are not reliable that's why i can't trust their reports so it's better you speak about what happens in your own neighborhood. Do you get it now? ![]() |
naijapikin2:To understand what Jesus meant by the blowing of trumpet read Matthew 6:2 it simply means sounding a global warning which Russell and his team did before the year 1914 please ask anyone if the whole world wasn't terrified with the warning of Russell and his team about 1914 though what they expected didn't happen exactly as they thought but the world can never forget the year 1914 when the whole world went to WAR as if something is wrong with mankind in general! naijapikin2:Of course Jesus raised all those who are born again Christians that year to heaven but since they were taken as spirit beings {1Corinthans 15:44} how will people on earth know when their movement is not physical? 1Thessalonians 4:16 naijapikin2:If there is love of brethren among them then who are those claiming Christians fighting and killing their fellow believers in Russia and Ukraine? Or do you think those fighting and killing themselves aren't Christians? John 13:34-35 |
Apologize:From the onset i knew you are one of JWs but i will tell you many things i have suffered in the hands of brothers even though i wasn't born as one of JWs {2Corinthians 11:26b} but after reading my Bible with a positive mind i realized that Satan uses the errors of those you view as fellow believers to inflict emotional torture in the hearts of true believers. Have ever been betrayed by brothers in business at the same time these brothers mock you due to your financial status? What do you think Jesus meant by this statements? “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you; whereas if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14-15 “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing. Luke 23:34a Compare to: Love ....... does not keep account of the injury. 1Corinthans 13:4-5 But become kind to one another, tenderly compassionate, freely forgiving one another just as God also by Christ freely forgave you. Ephesians 4:32 Continue putting up with one another and forgiving one another freely even if anyone has a cause for complaint against another. Just as Jehovah freely forgave you, you must also do the same. Colossians 3:13 My brother that's what the love of God means! 1John 4:20 |
Jerryhare:You keep missing the point! David will never ever kill someone who is doing God's will that's why he was loved but regarding his worth before the true God David is not qualified to build a temple for God. Which means his form of worship is INCOMPLETE! Jesus taught his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone in the name of dispute {Matthew 26:52} meaning David still has a lot to learn before he can qualify to live in Paradise where Jesus will be the king! ![]() Jerryhare:Go and ask BBC or CNN about Jesus Christ then come back to argue if they are truly sincere! ![]() |
Jerryhare:God said David is not worthy to build a temple for Him. WHY? David has spilled too much blood due to WARS! 1Chronicles 22:8 That's why Jesus said: “Return your (weapon) to its place, for all those who take up (weapon) will perish by (weapon)." Matthew 26:52 God's only begotten Son has spoken so David is not worthy being a Christian! ![]() Jerryhare:False stories! Tell me the name of a child molester you know in your own neighborhood who is a JW! ![]() |
In the beginning God created a couple and they were supposed to multiply and fill planet earth with their offsprings until people are living in all the parts of this planet. God designed a garden for this couple and make sure everything they need is there with them, they are to raise children so that each pair will move to different parts and build their own home with gardens just like their parents own theirs. Sadly this couple chose to rebel against their Creator and the consequences of their actions is what we are all experiencing till today: sickness, oldage, death, suffering, crime, injustice just to mention a few. The perpetrators of these evil acts come from the loins of the rebellious couple but since God was double sure of what He made God promised that some among the descendants of these wicked couple will prove to be different from their parents in fact these faithful ones will exhibit the fine attributes of their Creator. So when Adam and Eve started having children their first son (Cain) was a rebel just like his parents but the second child proved to be totally different from his entire family and right from that moment God started keeping a record of the names of humans who proved to be obedient among the descendants of Adam till today! Malachi 3:16 compare to Revelations 20:15 These obedient ones will inherit eternal blessings God intended for Adam and Eve but which they despised. Matthew 25:34 But before they could be fully approved for everlasting life each of them must become like Jesus in thought, word and actions so they need to be taught all the things Jesus commanded his disciples before they can be granted everlasting life. So after Jesus and his angels have destroyed all rebellious humans in just one day {Luke 19:27} he (Jesus) will bring back faithful people who died right from Abel {Hebrews 11:4-32} till the last whose names are recorded in God's memory {John 5:28-29} then another set of humans will also be resurrected though these ones never had any dealings with the true God due to the times they lived or their geographical locations they had no opportunity of knowing the true God but they lived by their God's given conscience: For all those who sinned without law will also perish without law; but all those who sinned under law will be judged by law. For the hearers of law are not the ones righteous before God, but the doers of law will be declared righteous. For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves. They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused. Romans 2:12-15 God will bring back these people for them to learn all the things Jesus commanded Christians! Revelations 20:11-13 So both ancient servants of God and people who made themselves prisoners of conscience will be raised back to life for Christians to teach them what Christ our Master, Lord and King taught us. These people including Christians who are no part of the first fold of anointed ones are the OTHER SHEEP Jesus talked about! John 10:16 What about evildoers as in those who deliberately choose to be wicked? What will God do to such ones who rendered their conscience dead? To be continued... |
All authority has been given me both in heaven and on earth therefore go and preach the Kingdom of God to all those living on this planet, make sure they understand the significance of these three: The father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. Afterwards continue to teach them all the things i commanded you and don't forget that i will prove to be with you until the end of all these troubles! Matthew 28:18-20 |
Jerryhare:Guy, abeg cover your face David wasn't fighting and killing his fellow worshipers like your own people are doing today in Russia and Ukraine o, i keep quoting it yet you turn a blind eye to (Bible) our book, oya read it again: Then Jesus said to him: “Return your (weapon) to its place, for all those who take up the (weapon) will perish by the (weapon). Matthew 26:52 ![]() Jerryhare:Mention the name of one person caught doing this in your own area at least let's assure us that it's not another lie haters are spreading up and down! Matthew 5:11-12 ![]() |
Jerryhare:Jesus' disciples must not raise weapons against anyone in the name of dispute! Matthew 26:52 So interpret it anyhow you want! ![]() Jerryhare:Which of these did you witnessed in your own area? ![]() |
Nobody loves God more than Jesus but do you know Jesus so much loves the congregation of God too? Please read: While he was yet speaking to the crowds, his mother and brothers were standing outside, seeking to speak to him. So someone said to him: “Look! Your mother and your brothers are standing outside, seeking to speak to you.” In reply he said to the one who spoke to him: “Who is my mother, and who are my brothers?” And extending his hand toward his disciples, he said: “Look! My mother and my brothers! For whoever does the will of my Father who is in heaven, that one is my brother and sister and mother" Matthew 12:46-50 From the above can you see how Jesus cherish those doing God's will? That's what it means to love God who you can't see! 1John 4:20 |
Apologize:Note what God said about King David of ancient Israel: ‘I have found David the son of Jesʹse a man agreeable to my heart.’ Act 22:13 What made David so special in the eyes of the true God? Well David love the gathering of God's people {Psalms 133:1} and he tolerated no rivalry against the armies of the living God! 1Samuel 17:26 David never saw God for once but he loves the congregation of God with all his heart. So your love for pure worship and those engaging in pure worship will earn you the same kind of affection from the true God! |
Apologize:What you need is love for God's people because you can't see God but you can see how His active force is operating in the gathering of His people. So your appreciation for his organization is equally love for God! |
22jumpstreet:Read what? ![]() |
Jerryhare:Jesus said from Abel to John the baptist none of them is worth a Christian {Matthew 11:11} because a Christian must not raise weapons against anyone in the name War! Matthew 26:52 ![]() Jerryhare:How many have you caught in the act within your own locality? ![]() |
God created all leaves for our good so it's humans that misused all the things God created! Psalms 104:14 ![]() |
Jerryhare:You don't know the meaning of building a house for God but i will explain, David is man God cherish but when talking about Christians David doesn't worth the least among those practicing what Jesus taught! Matthew 11:11 Jerryhare:Raping minors and sexually abusing teenagers! ![]() How many have you caught in your own area? Ọmọ there is nothing worse than killing people that's why Jesus doesn't associate with killers he's ever ready to associate with anyone no matter how sinful except politicians! ![]() |
The other sheep! John 10:16 According to Jesus this other sheep aren't of the same fold with his first one but he will also bring them into the same sheephouse so they may all come under one shepherd. Before we figure out what Jesus meant by his other sheep let's find out what he meant by sheep in the first instance. A sheep is a domestic animal that always rely on guidance so for a sheep to feed and grow well it needs the presence of a shepherd who leads it to where it could get good pasture {Psalms 23:2} but what if the shepherd is busy doing something else? Well a skillful shepherd will not leave his sheep if he has only one but where they are many he must train some of the sheep to act in his absence so if they are in thousands he will group them into fifties or more then a trained sheep will guide each fifties while all the trained sheep also have another sheep that will lead the whole thousands. So when they hear the voice of the lead sheep all of them no matter what they're doing will move at once and start following the lead sheep. In like manner Jehovah God is the shepherd who has trained one sheep to lead the rest of his millions of sheep that one sheep is Jesus Christ that's why the Bible often call Jesus the lamb of God {John 1:29; Revelations 7:17} he is rightly called the lamb because a big sacrifice is required to save obedient mankind as in sheeplike humans from sin and death but only a perfect human equal to Adam could offer this sacrifice with his own life! Mark 10:45 compare to 1Corinthans 15:45 So when Jesus started gathering people in the first century he selected 12 men to serve as trained sheep that will guide the flock! John 21:15-17 This little group will grow to 144,000 humans to serve as kings and priests with the lamb of God! Revelations 14:1 This group are special before God because they've been fully tested as real sheep of Christ that's why Jesus said from Abel till John the baptist none of them is as great as one of these special group {Matthew 11:11} Jesus has trained them so as to fitness they come first that's why they will be taken to heaven along with him as his corulers! Revelations 20:5-6 So the question again comes to mind. Who are the other sheep? To be continued... |
Having one of Jehovah's Witnesses as friend is nothing because we meet with different kinds of people daily and we don't discriminate unless when you wants to sign a lifetime friendship with us we will let you know that our closeness can't exceed being at sight. You can only be a friend with Jehovah's Witnesses as a neighbor {Mark 12:31} once you leave that area you've become history no strings attached! Your threads regarding Jesus is based on hatred for his personality because you don't want to believe such a person even existed in the first place. Below is the thread where you tried to engage people but nobody took you seriously! https://www.nairaland.com/6687852/when-people-love-you....but-never |
MightySparrow:Tell Jesus and his disciples because that is exactly what the Jews are saying against Jesus and his disciples till today. So if Jews despite all the PRACTICAL BENEFITS of Jesus' ministry and how his disciples also proved to fulfill prophesies that has been written in the scriptures thousands of years before their time called Jesus an "IMPOSTOR" {Matthew 27:63} how much more do we expect from faithless people like you? Matthew 10:24-25 ![]() |
MightySparrow:You are faithless otherwise any sensible human know it's only true Christians that can apply what Jesus said to their activities! James 2:18-26 Jesus said: “You are the light of the world. A city cannot be hid when located on a mountain. People light a lamp and set it, not under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it shines on all those in the house. Likewise, let your light shine before men, so that they may see your fine works and give glory to your Father who is in the heavens. Matthew 5:14-16 Oya Adeboye/Oyedepo pikin prove Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the group Jesus is talking about in those verses: APOPTOSIS: BafanaBafana: Oye0404: XXLDICK: freethinker01: boss1310: Deway52: Love800: |
Just calmly addressed the issue anger or rudeness won't help you. If you say only you are the Christian that i must listen to then you are joking but if you truly want to convince me that there is a Christian belief i don't know then present a church that is practicing it and make sure it's yours! ![]() |
Jerryhare:God said David is not worthy to build a house for Him! 1Chronicles 22:8 So that's settled. Politics is the reason why your fellow worshipers are fighting and killing one another yet claiming they are believers in Christ Jesus! ![]() |
MightySparrow:Just as 99% of Jews never accepted Jesus but few yet those few speaks in volumes! APOPTOSIS: BafanaBafana: Oye0404: XXLDICK: freethinker01: boss1310: Deway52: Love800:Perhaps these are not Nairalanders! ![]() |
Jerryhare:David was never a Christian! Do you know why God rejected David's move to build a temple for God?: But Jehovah’s word came to me, saying, ‘You have shed a great deal of blood, and you have fought great wars. You will not build a house for my name, for you have shed a great deal of blood on the earth before me. 1Chronicles 22:8 So God rejected David's move to build a house for Him because of WARS. Abeg which wars was David fighting? Was it not to protect Israel? Well Christianity was established by Christ Jesus who is the new temple so no military man (trained to kill) can worship inside it. Matthew 26:52 Jerryhare:Not government of humans under Satan's control {2Corinthians 4:4; 1John 5:19} that's why we are no part of world politics! John 17:14-16 Of course Jesus is the friend of sinners he didn't come to call the righteous but SINNERS! Matthew 9:13 So my guy you will see many sinners in the midst of Jesus' camp though they are receiving treatment as they continue to wash their robes in the blood of the lamb! ![]() |
@ Jerryhare You don't have to be aggressive about it or overly abusive all you need is calmly have a rethink on this issue. Charles Taxes Russell founded a group but Jehovah's Witnesses Organization is not that group because there are many things Russell believed in his time that Jehovah's Witnesses don't believe today and if you care to know there is a group in America till today that worships Russell and stick to what he believed in his lifetime. [1] They can't preach and teach from house to house and door to door like Jehovah's Witnesses are doing today because Russell never did or teach them that. [2] They can't spread to all other nations the way Jehovah's Witnesses speedily doing. [3] They celebrates birthdays and Christmas till today because Russell does all these in his lifetime. [4] They don't have elders in their midst as Jehovah's Witnesses have today because only Russell was pastor in his lifetime. [5] They can't stop members from joining politics and military service like Jehovah's Witnesses do in their midst because Russell doesn't know what is wrong with these things in his lifetime. So you people are like Jews who kept saying Jesus and all his disciples are followers of John the baptist who started baptizing people in the first century since that's what Jesus and his disciples are also doing afterwards. Despite the fact that Jesus and his disciples achieved so much that John couldn't achieve in his lifetime those faithless Jews insisted that John founded Christianity! ![]() |
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