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The verse churchgoers misconstrued to think Jesus is God has been settled but since all their beliefs is centered on the falsehood of TRINITY they just don't want to reason.

Jesus is NOT God in the sense these people are claiming God's word clearly says Jesus is the prophet who came in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18 compared to Act 3:22-23} Moses was God {Exodus 7:1} because he was the first human given supernatural gifts to perform miracles and Jesus is the greatest human given that same power.

Jesus had lived as an angel in heaven before coming to the earth that makes him advanced in existence than any other human {John 8:58} but that he is the Almighty God that's confirmed heresy because he himself begged God to save him from death! Hebrews 5:7

May you have peace!

Change4dbeta:
He said they joined two different videos together to make false claim.If it's you, you will also react badly.Pastors are human too.
Tarnishing other reputation to trend is very bad.

This man always lie.
I remember the last time he sent words threatening Daddy Freeze for exposing Oyedepo.
So the question you should ask yourself is
"did Ibiyeomie mention 'ARREST' in his statement?"
If he does then how is arresting someone who wronged you by words the right thing to do when God's word said:

Do not avenge yourselves, beloved, but yield place to the wrath; for it is written: “‘Vengeance is mine; I will repay,’ says Jehovah.”  But “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by doing this you will heap fiery coals on his head.”  Do not let yourself be conquered by the evil, but keep conquering the evil with the good. Romans 12:19-21

The truth is these men aren't Christians at all but since they are the same people teaching you guys what you know there's no way you can justifiably figure out their blunders.

TruthinAction:
Try to read it in context. The prophetic discourse started by Jesus pointing to the temple in Jerusalem which he said will be destroyed - Matthew 24.
The disciples wanted to know when this will happen, the signs of his coming and of the end of the world. Then Jesus began to unfold the events one by one.
In verse 9, he said:
Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and YE SHALL BE HATED OF ALL NATIONS for my name's sake.
Notice the capitalized phrase - Israel will be hated by ALL NATIONS.
But we haven't yet seen that happen. Israel still has countries that support them. But after the church has been raptured, all nations will be governed by leaders under the influence of demons.
The anti Christ will be revealed and ask everyone to worship the image of the beast that will be set up. Meanwhile, Israel will initially accept him as their long awaited Messiah. They will even sign a 7 year peace treaty according to Daniel's prophecy But after three and a half years he will break the peace treaty and set up the image of the beast in Jerusalem which is in Judah. This is what Jesus referred to when he said:
Matthew 24:15
When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand
He further said:
Matthew 24:16-22
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
Notice he said that those in Judaea should flee to the mountains. Why did he mention Judaea? Because the city of Jerusalem where the abomination is placed is in Judaea.
You will now understand what Jesus meant when he said, he that endures to the end shall be saved.
He is referring to the Jews who will be persecuted during the great tribulation period. Most of them will be killed as stated in verse 9. But anyone who holds on to his faith even unto death shall be saved.

This long epistle is unwarranted you guys just feel Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong so instead of humbly asking why we differ from others you seek ways to convince yourselves that our faith is incomplete.

Imagine on a thread that's about baptism you jumped in and start asking:

TruthinAction:
Are you born again?

After telling you that the meaning of that phase BORN AGAIN differ from one church to another you lied claiming it's the same and that born again Christians are saved.

Paul who mentioned that word SAVED doesn't mean what you think because he himself said:

"Therefore, the way I am running is not aimlessly; the way I am aiming my blows is so as not to be striking the air; but I pummel my body and lead it as a slave, so that after I have preached to others, I myself should not become disapproved somehow." 1Corinthans 9:26-27

Going by the highlighted in blue do you think Paul is SAVED if he doesn't endure to the end? Matthew 24:13

Myrepublic:
Some persons are just naturally wicked. Well,I will agree with you to some extent,since the devil is in charge of their activities

My guy if humans are truly wicked God won't extend the hand of mercy it's the devil and his demons that's misleading them! Revelations 12:7-12

Myrepublic:
False prophets of course

Who are backing false prophets with signs? Revelations 16:14-16

ichuka:
Lol
I don't do cherry picking,if not eeeh😭
Any group of brothers proclaiming christains with out been lead by the Holy Spirit are all BIG TIME WASTERS PERIOD.
These is dispensation of the Holy Spirit.
Dude, try and explore it through the bible

You don't believe the Bible rather it's the lying spirit so stick to your spirit i'm OK with my Bible!

Kobojunkieee:
A bunch of imbe_ciles who once believed the world would end 100 years after 1914, only to conveniently adjust(without so much as a question) to believing the date no longer mattered after reality hit them back in 2014. Are those you believe are Christ-like? Kai! Religion is a bloody bastard! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Being faithless doesn't make you wise o!

The same thing happened to Jesus' first century disciples, they actually thought the world would end in the first century.

So if you don't believe Jesus or his disciples how much Jehovah's Witnesses who are their modern day counterpart?

TruthinAction:
No, I didn't. You did. Scripture can't contradict itself. It can't say that we are saved in several scriptures and at the same time say something different in just one or two verses. Yes, though the prophecies are been fulfilled before our very eyes, the church will not be on earth when the greater part of the prophecies which has to do with the nation of Israel will be fulfilled.

Who said:

"Whoever endure to the end will be saved" Matthew 24:13

Jesus talked you want to overrule it with what mere humans said, shey?

Well that's your own cup of coffee i stand with Jesus!

Kobojunkie:
Name just one Christian you know of that is Christ-like? No excuses, please!

Millions of Jehovah's Witnesses around the world!

Myrepublic:
He is wicked and he also allowed religion blind his mind of reasoning. Why will he want to raise knife on you,if he is not wicked ? Why will he want to fight for his God ,when God is the one fighting his battle,those he sees and those he doesn't see? All of these things na just the way most of us has been brainwashed,not necessarily demon brother.

So who are behind the brainwashing o?
Revelations 12:11-12

Myrepublic:
Lol

The funny thing is you said:

Myrepublic:
I have worked in one ministry before,not winners though .Same wicked treatment,like they are not Christians. So I blive the guy saying this 100%

Do you think normal humans could be that wicked or they are under the influence of some spirits?

Kobojunkieee:
Just imagine ooo! Imagine a human being in the year 2025 insisting that food belonged to demons? Kai! It shocketh me!

Since you don't believe in God there is no need to engage you but know that it's the spiritual that's controlling the physical the more you look the less you'll see!

Myrepublic:
This one is false. I don Tay for ministry work. No be any demon.. Na wikedness for some other directors.

What a pity?

Do you think all these people carrying the Bible are just heartless?

No nah!

It's demons they worship in the secret that's directing them on what they should do.
For instance do you think all Islamists are heartless or bloodthirsty?
My guy it's the demons they worship that is issuing the orders.
I once preached from house to house as usual being a Jehovah's Witnesses and a Muslim told me that according to their god my head supposed to be removed i asked him why he said because i don't believe in Muhammad so i should be killed.
Then i told him i was once a Muslim this got him really annoyed that he rushed into his house angrily but his children told him i'm a former soldier that's when he stopped and started reigning curses on me for preaching another religion.

Now this was the person who greeted me in a friendly manner before i speak about my beliefs o.

So is he the wicked being or the demon he is worshiping?

Tboy222:
Are you sure when or if the rapture should happen today, will you be one of those to meet the Lord in the air?

Is your heart free from sin, are you a self acclaimed Christian, a chorister, a pastor, or whatever but you still commit secret sins.

God is not locked, whatever a man sows, that he will definitely reap.

You cannot hide your sins from God, all is naked and exposed before Him.

The only way you can escape eternity in Hell is to humbly and genuinely ask Jesus Christ to forgive you of all your sins.

Ask Him to wash you with His precious blood.
Invite Him to become your personal Lord and Saviour.

Promise not to go back to your sins again,and ask Him to give you the grace to walk in His ways.

Congratulations your name has been written in the Lambs Book of Life.

Look for a Bible believing church where Holiness and righteousness with Jesus Christ as the center of the message.

I recommend the following YouTube channels to build you up spiritually. God Almighty bless you. Amen.

Sid Roth it's supernatural (YouTube)
Randy Kay ministries (YouTube)
Touching the afterlife (YouTube)
Deep Believer (YouTube)
David diga Hernandez (YouTube)
Grow in faith grow in Christ (YouTube)
Delafe testimonies ( YouTube)

I thought as much!

The word "RAPTURE" is nowhere in the Bible so there is no scripture to back the whole story!

Myrepublic:
I have worked in one ministry before,not winners though .Same wicked treatment,like they are not Christians. So I blive the guy saying this 100%

Those foods may be consumed by you behind them or by beggars or paupers without their knowledge the secret is they must not hand over the food to anyone as gifts because that is what their demons requires!

Only true Christians worship the Father in Spirit and Truth! John 4:24

The problem now is how to IDENTIFY the true Christian organization where God is worshiped in Spirit and Truth!

Kobojunkie:
Fresh food belongs to demons? Religion is a serious biaaatch! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Madam face me if you are up to the task. The people believe those fresh foods is what their gods demands which they mustn't taste nor give their children.

So God's word is vindicated which says:

What, then, am I saying? That what is sacrificed to an idol is anything, or that an idol is anything? No; but I say that what the nations sacrifice, they sacrifice to demons and not to God; and I do not want you to become sharers with the demons. 1Corinthans 10:19-20

Highlighted in blue is what i believe that is affecting those people!

ichuka:
Where you there when He gave the command?
Why then will He tell them also to wait for the Holy Spirit to lead them?
John 14:26...But the Helper, the Holy Spirit whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and remind you of all that I said to you.

Just ask what you don't understand!

Jesus is the head of his church but since he must leave the headship in the hands of imperfect humans he told them that God's Holy Spirit will ANOINT those who will take the lead in this work so they have to be BAPTIZED in the Holy Spirit just as Jesus was BAPTIZED and became the first BORN AGAIN preacher! Act 1:8

It's after they are baptized with God's Holy Spirit that they can be bold as in fearless to preach and teach! Act 4:24-31

So the Holy Spirit will continue to TEACH this little group how to guide the flock of God not that the spirit will start telling each Christian contradicting things o!

FRESH FOOD!

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, i remember one nearby village when i was a child they'll prepare fresh food and pour it into a river yearly but when i ask WHY they said that's what the gods demanded from them.
It took me decades to realize that those fresh foods belongs to demons! 1Corinthans 10:20
Would they have given their own children even if these ones starve?

He who has ears! Matthew 13:9

CJStarz:
It's ok but idiomatically, it's tug of war, unless you meant to say, 'Thugs at war '.
All of dem na thugs, walahi

So you are convinced that there is no minister of Christ in your country, right?
Ó mà ṣeo!

Janosky:
All the verses of your holy Bible that were espoused since JW's conversation with you were written by JW's Governing Body? Guy,You no know your problem.

The funny thing about them is claiming that a religion is cult because they shun or excommunicate unrepentant ones.
The funniest part is that Jesus himself is the originator of shunning so when they call a group "CULT" for shunning or excommunication of wrongdoers they're condemning Jesus as well as his Apostles!

QuinQ:
Better than going back and forth getting nowhere. At least this is one thing we agree on: JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES AS AN ORGANIZATION IS A CULT

Remember to add:
"Because they are following Jesus' footsteps"

QuinQ:
Thank God. At least we didn't spend all this time for nothing.
One have one thing permanently resolved, no more arguments:
JW IS A CULT!

Sooooooooo childish!

AntiChristian:
Where did God forbid polygamy in the Bible? Show us the verse with it's context?

The Bible God differ from your Allah His worshipers stops practicing something when it becomes obsolete so don't expect everything to be word for word:

“For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days,” declares Jehovah. “I will put my law within them, and in their heart I will write it. And I will become their God, and they will become my people.” “And they will no longer teach each one his neighbor and each one his brother, saying, ‘Know Jehovah!’ for they will all know me, from the least to the greatest of them,” declares Jehovah. “For I will forgive their error, and I will no longer remember their sin.” Jeremiah 31:33-34

Jesus said:

“All things, therefore, that you want men to do to you, you also must do to them. This, in fact, is what the Law and the Prophets mean." Matthew 7:12

Will you approve of your son in law to marry a second younger wife over your daughter?
Will you approve of your brother in law to marry a second younger wife over your sister?
Will you approve of your dad to marry a second younger wife over your mother?

Whatever you won't accept please don't do to others that's what all the prophets and laws means. Matthew 7:12

AntiChristian:
Once again, Jesus never discussed marriage nor polygamy! He was asked about divorce and he responded similarly. He never talked about polygamy!
And the Malachi verses you brought sure had a context your consciously hid beyond your sleeves! The passage addresses the unfaithfulness of the men of Judah who were divorcing their wives, particularly those of their own nation, to marry foreign women. This act was seen as a betrayal of the marriage covenant that God instituted. It's not in any way related to polygamy at all.

Jews knew that with a letter of divorce they can send their first wife away that's why they easily sue for divorce so their wives use to beg them ahead not to do that so instead the women will accept a second younger wife as they have no other option.

So Jesus is saying:

Stop looking lustfully at another woman when you already have a wife at home! Matthew 5:28
If Moses had given them rules that it's only after the death of their first wife they can remarry they will kill her with their own hands! Matthew 19:8

QuinQ:
Just let Janosky and others know so there'd be no more arguments about it.
it is settled: JW IS A CULT!
At least we achieved something. We got that out of the way

No wahala as long as you admit that Jesus is the head as in FOUNDER of this so called "CULT" Matthew 10:24-25

QuinQ:
Finally! So it is settled.m: JW IS A CULT!
That's all we've veen trying to get you to see!

Whatever you say just admit that Jesus is the head of this so called CULT! Matthew 10:24-25

QuinQ:
So ot is

Let them say at least we are fulfilling the sayings of our Master Lord and King Christ Jesus!

QuinQ:
So why all the argument from JW about cult. Just accept you're a cult and be proud of it, with your chest out. If anyone says you're a cult, simply tell them they're right, that you're not arguing that at all, that you really are a cult

We are the only true Christian group that Jesus foretold saying:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master.  It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:24-25

So if you call us a cult for obeying Jesus we are proud that we are fulfilling what Jesus foretold about his real disciples!

If shunning a former fellow worshiper for disobedience to the church policy is evil then blame Jesus because he taught his disciples to do just that!

QuinQ:
You can leave and come back to the Catholic Church as you wish, no shunning. Joe Biden was staunch Catholic yet pro abortion. The pope criticized him for it, but he stayed a full Catholic. Some Catholics are simultaneously Winners or Redeemed, no one bothers them about it, talkless of shunning. Compare to this below. That is what is meant by cult

That means Jesus' disciples were cult too because they shun anyone who practice interfaith:

However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to you as good news something beyond the good news we declared to you, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:8

First century Christians will neither eat nor say a greeting to anyone who deviate from the teachings of the apostles who are leading their group:

If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your homes or say a greeting to him. For the one who says a greeting to him is a sharer in his wicked works. 2John 10-11

That's what being brothers means when you formally pray through holy Mary or bow before the image of St Peter but another church now speaks against it yet you claim both of you are on the same page, ọmọ you are deceiving yourself!

You're just a Pharisee deceiving himself.

MightySparrow:
Wetin my papa take do you nah?!
answer simple question you come dey roll like barber chair.

MightySparrow:
Leave maximumSide alone in his delusion.

So you believe it's delusion then why are you desperately begging for it as if i'm the one who should teach you nah?

You remind me of Pharisees always going to ask Jesus questions when they are only looking for ways to trap him in whatever he says. Matthew 22:15

AntiChristian:
Yeah He permitted and later forbid it.

So stop deceiving yourself claiming the Bible God shouldn't stop something He permitted in the past!

AntiChristian:
Jehovah didn't mention polygamy anywhere in the Bible! Jesus was asked about divorce not polygamy! And he answered based on that!

Jesus' answer is clear:
You can't marry another woman if you truly love the first {Malachi 2:14-15} you can't think of a rival for her.
So when Jesus said "in the beginning" he meant what God established in Eden which is one man one woman.
That's exactly what will be applicable in Paradise where God doesn't want anyone to feel hurt of course you can't play your card within two women and say none will feel cheated by the end of the day!