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ichuka:
Dude
You aren't getting it.study philippians2 5-8
Maybe you get it.or ask The Holy Spirit to reveal it to you.
You know there's a big difference between Knowledge,Power and Revelation.
We must work with all and our only guard is the Holy Spirit.

When i first asked you to define immortality you said Google will tell me now after showing you what Google said you want to call spirit to come and define immortality shey?

Sorry i believe the Bible not a lying spirit immortality means not prone to death but Jesus DIED once meaning immortality is not his nature God gave him and 144,000 born again Christians! Revelations 14:1

delkuf:
biblical Jesus is the servant of God. Is that your own Jesus. Because Jesus is not a servant of God. He is a son of God that God sent into this world to die for our sins.So never use the word biblical Jesus. You can use the word jw Jesus

My own Bible says Jesus is God's SON {John 3:17} and SERVANT! Act 3:13

The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his SERVANT, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him. Act 3:13 NWT (JW Bible)


The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his SERVANT Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. ‭Acts 3:13 NIV‬ (New International Version)

Biblical Jesus is God's Son and SERVANT!

delkuf:
so Jesus is not a servant of God. Jesus is the don of God

Whatever you call your own Jesus na you sabi biblical Jesus is the SERVANT of God who was SENT by GOD!

“I must also declare the good news of the Kingdom of God to other cities, because for this I was sent.” Luke 4:43

Kobojunkie:
According to the story, the woman died of illness. No be say she accidentally fall off a building or get hit by a truck. The woman was sick for a period of time before she died. Kumuyi must have been home on many of those days, watching her health deteriorate, but did nothing at all. Na after him hear say she don die him come dey tell us this nonsense story say na because him no day home at that moment wey she take die.

I often tell their people that these pastors are L.I.A.R.S because God's word says death is what we all inherited from Adam {Romans 5:12} so nobody can stop death except God! Isaiah 25:8

QuinQ:
"Neighbor" doesn't really apply between you and me until we interact - unless you consider the closeness of being from same country. Eg, we didn't know if the Samaritan was neighbor until his conduct.
"Brother" on the other hand is universal but has degrees. Your closest brothers may be JW. But I'm also your African brother, your Nigerian brother, and your brother as a fellow human being as stated below!

If this is your own definition of neighbor and brother that's yours as for me you are my neighbor we both live on this planet together that's why we are chatting now as NEIGHBORS talking about my BROTHERS it's only those who are RELATED to me either through birth, business or beliefs! Matthew 12:46-50

ichuka:
It wasn't given to Him,that was part of His nature.

Immortality isn't the nature of someone who (once) died so he was given after his resurrection!

delkuf:
but we have the nature of our Father in heaven

Genesis 1:26

delkuf:
YES... Just like you and i. 1 John 4:4

So there's nothing special in being a god! Psalms 82:6

delkuf:
and also a God

YES just as Moses too! Exodus 7:1

QuinQ:
Easy, a bad Samaritan is not a neighbor to an Israelite. The good Samaritan was neighbor to the robbed man due to his good deeds. If he had been the one who robbed him he wouldn't have been his neighbor.
But you are to love EVERYBODY not just your neighbor:
Matthew 5:44: "But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you". Luke 6:27-28: "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you".

So am i your neighbor?
Am i your brother?

delkuf:
are you a Muslim or jw because you just mixing the two together

Jesus is God's Son! Matthew 16:16

ichuka:
But the bible says He has IMMORTALITY,are u more schooled than those who wrote the bible?

Immortality starts when God declares it and Jesus is not the only person who was given immortality there are 144,000 born again Christians who has also been given immortality too!

MightySparrow:
Humanity.

You can continue deceiving yourself but i won't join in such nonsense.

HUMANITY starts from shunning people who carry weapons to kill their neighbors simply because they are in support of one side against another yet they claim HUMANITY!

QuinQ:
1) So how many of them said "before Abraham, I am", and how many of them chased traders from the temple. Christ was obviously unique

2) Did he tell John that his biological mother stopped being his mother?

3) So if your mother doesn't join JW she's no longer your mother?😅

Going by the OP i asked you just one question:

Who is not your neighbor?

To me everyone is my neighbor though only JWs are my brothers.

So answer the question:

Who is not your neighbor on this forum?

QuinQ:
Jesus Christ was obviously talking of HIMSELF.

NO!
The same applies to all his disciples they are to follow him in thoughts, words and actions! 1Peter 2:21
When Mary became a Christian Jesus told John that Mary has become one of John's mothers! John 19:26-27 compare to Matthew 19:29-30

QuinQ:
Are YOUR only mother and brothers Jehovah's Witnesses?

According to Jesus, YES! Matthew 12:46-50

The matter just dey pain you and there's nothing you can do about it!

QuinQ:
Of course you have no answer. Very good.
So this has now been finally fully resolved.
So next time JW GB (Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body of 11 men in USA) tells you that only JW can be your brother, pretend to go along with them, but know at the back of your mind that they are LYING to you for their own selfish interests - so that that it will be extremely difficult for you to leave their cult and the only "brothers" you know!

You love arguing blindly and aimlessly!

Jesus never called everyone his brother because to Jesus only adherents of his teachings are his brothers {Matthew 12:46-50} that's what makes all his disciples brothers including himself {John 20:17} but when talking about NEIGHBORS Jesus explained that anyone is neighbor whether good or bad ones.

Your grievances won't change that you brought this upon yourself.

QuinQ:
Maxindhouse will not agree with this. His only neighbors are Jehovah's Witnesses!😅

Next time don't mention my name when you don't know what i believe everyone is my NEIGHBOR but only JWs are my BROTHERS!

achorladey:
JAPA when caught in lies and manipulations .
My question is not based on the screenshot. It was derived from the Bible you believe and referenced .
Is Jesus God?
To your question God was with God.
Answer my question

Error in translation!

There is only one God according to the Bible which means all others are gods so Jesus can't be God!

achorladey:
KJV.......

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Is Jesus God according to the same KJV you referenced below....

Who WAS with who?

ichuka:
Google is Ur friend I believe

Well i just want you to know that Jesus is not immortal he died once and immortality means not liable to death!

MightySparrow:
God forbid and I forbid even I, myself to relate with your community truth.

Good!
So if you're not relate to my community and you know that's the only basis for anyone to relate with me in what way are we related then?

QuinQ:
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(I posted this long ago. I didn't know anti-spam bot deleted it. I just assumed Max didn't reply because he finally received sense!😆)

(You've already been told JW GB are lying to you. There is no place in the Bible Christ says only his disciples are brothers. The only thing you keep citing is Luke 8. And you've already been told Jesus was talking of HIMSELF not you - HIS mother and brothers are those listening to him!)

Bros, can you please tell us on what basis you can say all humans are NEIGHBORS. Is it on the basis of dictionary definition or on the basis of the Good Samaritan parable? So you see, either way you are WRONG (though I know it is not you talking but JW GB)

On the other hand, I can say all humans are brothers based on their shared humanity, their shared heritage as children of one ancestor (Adam and Eve), the fact they’re all part of the same human race, the spiritual connection that prevents them from eating human meat, and the fact they're all created in the image of God!

Again, on what basis are they all NEIGHBORS??

I have made my point so you know what i believe:

Everyone is my NEIGHBOR but only JWs are my BROTHERS.

Simple as ABC!

MightySparrow:
This section is for Christianity, so we are related. Or you move to Islamic section.

May God forbid that i relate with you!

Speaklove:
The spirit of argument is among them .
They seek not to know the truth but to argue with no desire for change if the need arises.

When you meet people who changed due to your KNOWLEDGE IN HELL please let me know the BENEFITS of such knowledge o!

Instead of agreeing among unah self who be Jesus.
Shey na God or God pikin?
You want to cross the fence to another religion asking wetin them believe about Jesus when unah never gri among unah self wetin unah go tok about Jesus!

OK if a Muslim gri sey him wan learn from unah who unah go tok sey Jesus be?

Shey he be God, son of God or servant of God?

MightySparrow:
Deep.
maximumSide what do you say....?

No be me be your religious Daddy nah?
Why not go and ask Oyedepo?
Guy it's hi time you stop this nonsense of always calling my name on any thread as if you and i have anything in common.
I have told you that you and i aren't on the same page so stop deceiving yourself!

ichuka:
1Tim6:14that you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ’s appearing, 15which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only [e]Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, 16who alone HAS "IMMORTALITY"dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen

Dude if you don't know the meaning of IMMORTALITY ask question(Matt7:7)
Or the reason why He came you can still ask ok.

What is immortality?

orisa37:
ANY HUMAN THAT YOU COME ACROSS OTHER THAN YOURSELF.

Perfect answer!
Most people just love lying to their own souls.
When you come across someone who needs help of course as a neighbor you will do whatever is within your power to assist such one but can you bring a total stranger into your home?
I know these liars will say they can but that's not true the only people anyone can and will love to accommodate is your brothers which are these three:

[1] Colleague with whom you do the same job such a person you know him to an extent due to times spent together as co workers.
[2] Blood relation with whom you share a lot together as families that other families knew.
[3] Faith someone i knew in the same congregation or i knew he is also a JW, such a person i can say a lot about him even though we have never met before.
WHY?
Because we both got baptized through the same teaching.
I remember the day i was traveling with a band of musicians and as a member our bus broke down along the expressway around 10 pm everyone was scared because we can only sight the nearest town like half a mile away.
So i told my colleagues not to worry but we should walk straight to the town and ask for my brothers.
This sounds so strange to them in fact one of them asked if i'm running mad with this faith but since there is no other option everyone decided to go with me after all we are safe together.
On getting to the near by town everyone has locked their doors so i tried knocking to see if anyone will come out then one woman came out and after telling her what happened to our bus the woman said only one family used to accommodate strangers and took me to the man on getting to the man's house i greeted and he asked me what i wanted but one of my band members told him in a mocking manner saying:

"Our friend is one of Jehovah's Witnesses and he's looking for his family who are Jehovah's Witnesses in your town"

To the shock of everyone the man asked me saying "are you truly a witness?" reluctantly i told him not to worry about what my friend just said but if he could help me i need to see any witness in the town the man insisted i answer him first then i told him that i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses instantly he told me that i'm right in the house of my brother then he told me that the woman brought us to him because they knew he always entertain strangers even though all the so called "strangers" aren't strangers to him but strangers to his town's men because all his visitors are Jehovah's Witnesses from different places.
Then he woke all the people telling them a brother has come and suddenly the whole story changed because they brought food and drinks in fact my colleague were surprised as the man's children came playing with me like we have known for long!
I quickly called my brother aside and told him i'm the only witness among them so they shouldn't feel everything is the same o.
So i was taken to another place to have a good night sleep after taking my bath.
From that very day three of the band members decided to start studying the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses.

Now where are members of other religions claiming Christians?
Are they taught to take care of neighbors?
Yes of course.
But why can't they do the same thing JWs did?
Well it's difficult to accommodate strangers but for the love of Christ we JWs will go miles for our brothers no matter where he comes from!

AngelahFlo:
I disagree brother. Members of a Terrorist group can be my neighbor if we share a common space like a room, flat or street. I'm commanded to Love my neighbor as myself. That love is no greater than the love I'll accord my brother. Because the phrase "as myself" says it all. It means what I can do for myself, give myself, "make happen for myself" is the degree and extent of this love for my neighbor.
The love you have for your fellow believers which in this case are your JW crew should not be different from the love you show your neighbor cos that would go against yourself. I hope I'm making sense

Love like myself is lesser than love like Christ do so the love for my brothers in Christ is greater than that which i have for neighbors.

Jesus is saying i should do what i know is good for me to neighbors but when it comes to my brothers in Christ i must be willing to die for my fellow believers in Christ if the need arises.

Ọmọ that's why people throughout the world are saying Jehovah's Witnesses have strong love among themselves {John 13:34-35} if we don't love our neighbors we won't be sparing our precious time to go searching for them to preach and teach them but for our brothers we are ready to give it all if the need be that is what Jesus did for his own fellow believers!

AngelahFlo:
Fellow Believers are not limited to JW alone. Every Christian believer who recognizes the Lordship of Jesus are included also.

Ọmọ nah only Jehovah's Witnesses be my own brothers o if you want to know the reason why i will tell you but if you don't it's OK!

AngelahFlo:
The Muslims and Atheists etc you mentioned are not your NEIGHBORS rather, they are your brothers whom you should love as Christ loves them.

Unless the person share the same line of thought with me he is my neighbor as he lives on this planet with me but not i repeat NOT my brother!

A brother is someone with whom i share something in common on which i can call him out if he derails but a neighbor could be anyone as in anybody who is alive with me on this planet!

QuinQ:
NEIGHBOR
My friend you are talking from your head while I'm talking from the Bible.
Luke 10:
36 “Which of these three do you think was a neighbor to the man who fell into the hands of robbers?”
37 The expert in the law replied, “The one who had mercy on him.”

Neighbor is SPECIFICALLY defined in the Bible in Luke 10 so there is no room for argument about it. It'd have been much easier for the man to answer "everyone" but he didn’t. It'd also have been much easier for Christ to say "everyone is your neighbor", but he didn’t. Instead he gave a long parable!

BROTHER
My friend EVERY human being can be considered your brother in a broad sense. Just consider, human meat is equally just protein like any other meat, yet we don't eat it no matter how fresh. Not only that, we are ALL actually biblically descended from the same two parents whose names we actually know: Adam and Eve. We are ALL their children. Children of one parent are called brothers! Not only that, we are one species trying to survive on an extremely tiny planet. How tiny is our planet? See below. Note there are unlimited number of galaxies (2 billion+ are observable) and possibly unlimited number of universes.
Of course in a narrow sense, the definition of brother narrows. But either way, the JW GB are lying to you - JW are not the only ones you can call brother.
You get it now my African brother?

Even Jesus no gri call Pharisees who are Jacob's descendants his brothers rather he called them Satan's children! John 8:44

Shame no let your fellow church people come chuk mouth for the matter again.

Well you can go and convince your fellow churchians that members of Boko Haram are your brothers because they are Africans but for me only individuals who are related to me either through birth, business and most importantly by faith are my brothers!