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Most people are turning their backs on the religion their parents handed over to them while others are converting to the religion of their choice but generally religion is loosing its power. Soon world powers will unanimously agree to stop all religious practices that has influenced human governments throughout the earth. Revelation 17:15-16
So get prepared for the showdown!🙂

TenQ:
So, you see that you are different from the servants of Jesus Christ.

Now i remember you!🙂

One who always argue with Muslims.

Learn from what just happened it may be your last warning.

True Christians aren't sent out to go about arguing {Titus 3:9} our mission is to search for those who are deserving:

“Into whatever city or village you enter, search out who in it is deserving, and stay there until you leave" Matthew 10:11

TenQ:
All I could see was that Stephen did not reply the Jews one bit as he didnt want to debate them. Thus Stephen was Quiets throughout the monologue
And Stephen invited them for bible studies (in their homes) while asking them to buy his religious pamphlets.
SHM!!

It's not just about READING but STUDYING the Bible to know exactly what happened back then.
Each disciple follow the command from Jesus who ordered them to go and meet people at home {Matthew 10:11-13} and it's only those who welcome their message that is the meaning of lost sheep of the the house of Israel {Matthew 10:6} these are people who wants to be guided regarding the truth not stiff-necked religionists who already concluded in their minds that they won't listen.

TenQ:
I am sure you also havent read about Appolos
Acts 18:28
"For he vigorously refuted his Jewish opponents in public debate, proving from the Scriptures that Jesus was the Messiah."
You are certainly different from the disciples of Jesus!

Interpretation may mislead you so try to compare with other versions and see how each verse is rendered:

He (Apollos) began to speak boldly in the synagogue, and when Pris·cilʹla and Aqʹui·la heard him, they took him into their company and explained the way of God more accurately to him. Act 18:26
Apollos surely had the zeal but not the way Jesus taught his disciples to carry out the preaching and teaching work so Priscilla and Aquila corrected him.
Today some churchgoers are zealous to do the work of evangelizers but they are not trained on how to do the work.
See my brothers who has been arrested in their own countries for talking to their neighbors about God's Kingdom!

PotatoSalad:
Prove it

Do you have a copy of the Bible?🤔

TenQ:
Read Acts 6:9-10

Read over and over Stephen did not go to engage them in an argument rather they came to where he was teaching to contradict him before those listening just as they did to Jesus.
Note that Jesus never purposely engage Pharisees in any argument it was while he was preaching and teaching his audience that they will come to contradict his teachings.
So that man was wrong to have engaged Muslims in an argument.
Are there no reputable men of God in that place?
The young man took it upon himself to challenge them instead of minding his own business which supposed to be the usual preaching and teaching those who wants to listen to him!😟

TenQ:
Acts 6:9:
"Then there arose certain of the synagogue, which is called the synagogue of the Libertines, and Cyrenians, and Alexandrians, and of them of Cilicia and of Asia, disputing with Stephen."

According to the scriptures did Stephen purposely engage them in an argument or they trailed him while he was in the ministry just as they did to Jesus?🤔

[quote author=ola20ng post=140224486][/quote]I asked you to explain in your own words remember those explanations are from people who can't answer the questions that may arise from the quote now but you can if truly you believe those words are from your God!😟

OBAJESU:

Matthew 16:25 >> he that loseth his life for My sake shall find it.

For Christ's sake or his own pride?
Christ never sent us to go about debating with idol worshipers so that man committed a blunder but because he's ignorant resurrection awaits him where he will learn true Christianity.

ola20ng:
Overzealous and misguided ones do commit crimes in the name of religion.

Please sir can you help me interpret this verse in the Quran?

فَاِ ذَا انْسَلَخَ الْاَ شْهُرُ الْحُـرُمُ فَا قْتُلُوا الْمُشْرِكِيْنَ حَيْثُ وَجَدْتُّمُوْهُمْ وَخُذُوْهُمْ وَا حْصُرُوْهُمْ وَا قْعُدُوْا لَهُمْ كُلَّ مَرْصَدٍ ۚ فَاِ نْ تَا بُوْا وَاَ قَا مُوا الصَّلٰوةَ وَ اٰتَوُا الزَّكٰوةَ فَخَلُّوْا سَبِيْلَهُمْ ۗ اِنَّ اللّٰهَ غَفُوْرٌ رَّحِيْمٌ
"And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." (QS. At-Tawba 9: Verse 5)

ola20ng:
What do you have to say about Matthew 5: 17?
17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

The law says another prophet will be sent to the Israelites {Deuteronomy 18:18-19} through whom God will establish another covenant with them. Jeremiah 31:31-33

So when Jesus said he has not come to abolish those laws he's warning his listeners not to think he has come to change God's laws but to fulfill which is break it down to PRINCIPLES instead of fast rules that they can't relate anywhere else. And that is why he told them to take the new covenant to other nations {Matthew 28:19-20} they can't go to another country and start forcing their country's laws on people but with the new covenant which comes with PRINCIPLES no normal human will say it's not applicable to him or her!😟

ola20ng:
When it doesn't favour your narration you label it old testament but you change mouth when it does.

That law doesn't go beyond Israel so it's given for the twelve tribes only and they were never asked to take it to any other land until the Christ will come to break it down for them and teach them the PRINCIPLES behind those LAWS! Deuteronomy 18:18-19

chimex38:
I tried to verify generally.
AI said its not fake news.

You are wasting your time responding to those funny Muslims, they know what their people are capable of doing!🥴

Chienex24:
Thank goodness God is the ultimate and only true Judge.

That's why i quoted God's word to help you see why the guy is wrong:

And if I give all my belongings to feed others, and if I hand over my body so that I may boast, but do not have love, I do not benefit at all. 1Corinthans 13:3

But have nothing to do with foolish arguments and genealogies and disputes and fights over the Law, for they are unprofitable and futile. Titus 3:9

It's God's word that say the guy was wrong not human!🥱

Ensquare:
No heaven no hell

Of course there is heaven and there is hell but the real meaning has been changed by the churches.

Chienex24:
Obviously a debate. They both agreed to it. Guy man dey protect him life with all him strength. Don't worry , you will live long 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

It's stupidity doing what you aren't sent to do. If you obey Jesus and die in the course resurrection is sure {John 11:25} but when you pridefully did what you are not asked to do you are on your own o! 1Corinthans 13:3🥱

Raph82:
But once in a while, they need to be put in their place. They are fast becoming a thorn on everybody's skin. They must have pressured that pastor into a debate before agreeing to their bid. Very annoying set of humans.

Such could be really tempting though but it's better to leave and allow them have their way.
One of my Bible students that i studied the Bible with for months but kept dribbling me as if he doesn't understand what we were discussing.
Today he is now telling that Islam is evil after listening to one former Muslim who is now a traditionalist.
If you are on Facebook check Msbaba and try to follow him i'm sure the young man's life is in danger because he is now debating Muslims online and many are leaving the religion.

Lucifyre:
Thank Yhwh you know your limits 😁

Exactly!🥱

Lucifyre:
Oh yeah, I know my brain works perfectly. Unfortunately can't say the same for you Mr "thinking faculties" 😁

Exactly!🥱

Sicklebear28:
That's what Christ mean by taking up your cross and follow him.

NO it means living a life that is spotless in the world even when others view you like a f00l.

Chienex24:
Someone like you will obviously say Jesus died for nothing and worse at an early age. See the way you value life so much, a life you will lose eventually.
You obviously lack knowledge of what Christianity is all about though you might be an atheist or Muslim

When next such opportunity comes go and argue with them!

Jeezuzpick:
For Christians, there is life after this life. Eternal life.
You'll understand if you're a Christian.

Well i'm a Christian and i know that the idea of arguing with someone who can't reason well is unscriptural.
In fact Jesus commanded us not to say anything once the householder decline our visit {Matthew 10:11-13} so normally we should quit arguing with a person who is incapable of reasoning! Titus 3:9

TenQ:
By your fruit you are identified.
You condemn Stephen for being stoned to death for preaching openly to the Jews like this young 25 year old preacher.

Then they secretly persuaded men to say: “We have heard him speaking blasphemous things against Moses and God.” And they stirred up the people, the elders, and the scribes, and coming upon him suddenly, they forcibly seized him and led him to the Sanʹhe·drin. And they brought forward false witnesses, who said: “This man does not stop speaking things against this holy place and against the Law. For instance, we have heard him say that this Jesus the Naz·a·reneʹ will throw down this place and change the customs that Moses handed down to us.” Act 6:11-14
Stephen was accused, arrested and dragged to the public square for execution that is why he used the last minute to express himself.
Back then Christians won't argue with Judaists because they are ready to kill them at sight on the spot unless Roman soldiers are around to protect the believer.
So stop deceiving yourself the act of arguing publicly with radical Muslims is UNSCRIPTURAL!

StreetFight:
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Have you ever seen Muslims advertising Islam the way you Churchgoers advertise Jesus like Mangoes and Cakes?

Jesus taught us to take permission from the householder before presenting our message and if the householder say "NO" we should leave peacefully.
So when you see people shouting at passersby or in public transport know today that they are not Christians!🙂

You know nothing about Christianity!🥱

The word "RAPTURE" is old system of scam.

Please don't disturb your brain now it's evident that it's working perfectly!🥱

Lucifyre:
Is this meant to be you using your thinking faculties at a 100. Wow! what I like about you is, only you at the end would embarrass yourself by yourself. Have your heard of something called measures of central tendency or something called outliers. Educate yourself o, so you won't be producing this 👆🏽, as your thinkibg faculties at it's best. Na wa.

uncleck:
A lot of funny submissions. Going to eat and drink with Jesus? Will they still be flesh and blood? Abi spirits dey chop?
Judge wicked Angels? Very funny.

Of course angels have their own food.

Jesus said they will eat and drink with him in his father's kingdom {Matthew 26:29} and regarding judging angels it's not the way people think o it means those going to heaven will prove that if imperfect humans who have challenges here can serve God faithfully angels who had no problem in heaven should do better so that will be the basis of their destruction!🙂

manitobor:
You're talking off point. And the Bible quotation you added in the end is completely irrelevant and has no connection whatsoever to the post.
Where did it say in the post that the pastor began a fight? When did engaging in an open debate become a fight?

You start a fight whenever you choose to argue with radical islamists!😟

uncleck:
That means the 144000 are going to be punished perpetually because they're going to live in an unfavorable heaven

Do you say punished?
Well they are going to see God directly {Matthew 5:8} unlike common humans who can't see God {Exodus 33:20} they will eat and drink with Jesus as his corulers in heaven {Matthew 26:29 compare to Luke 22:30} they will be the one to judge the wicked angels {1Corinthans 6:3} who left their abode to come and commit fornication with female humans! Jude 1:6; 1Peter 3:19-20; 2Peter 2:4
So they will live the best of Liv life with God and there is one thing they have that all others don't have yet: they will be free from Satan's final temptation! Revelation 20:5-6

Reloadedisraelp:
To me heaven is the word of God..... The holy and righteous word..... It's within us that no one can see it physically but can only hear it.....the bible mk a simple interpretation...

Of course heaven is a real place where intelligent creatures lives but it's only spirit not physical beings that lives.
There is no promised of God in the Bible regarding life in heaven so when Jesus told his disciples that he will take them to where he came from they were really confused.
So Jesus has to tell them why such a thing could be possible:

“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Exercise faith in God; exercise faith also in me. In the house of my Father are many dwelling places. Otherwise, I would have told you, for I am going my way to prepare a place for you. Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will receive you home to myself, so that where I am you also may be." John 14:1-3

Note the underlined: Jesus is going to prepare which means the arrangement is not in God's promise before then but Jesus asked his father to grant him this proposal and God granted it that is why only a limited number of people were later seen in a vision standing on mount Zion (heaven) with the lamb of God (Jesus) Revelation 14:1

So those going there can't get married as they won't be going with their human bodies! Luke 20:34-36

uncleck:
To do what exactly in heaven? I'll wear white and white and be singing hallelujah everyday of my life. No pussy, no beer, no okro soup, no palm wine. It's going to be super boring. Always seeing sadists and killjoys; the kind of "righteous" people we see around. Abeg let me enjoy this one life in peace. After all no one has been to heaven before.

That is what false religion has caused in the minds of billions globally.

Earth is where God designed for humans to live that is why no one in his or right frame of mind wish to die. Ecclesiastes 3:11
Righteous people will live forever on this planet {Psalms 37:29} but evildoers will be destroyed {Psalms 37:9-11} and peace will reign globally. Proverbs 2:20-22
Heaven is not natural for humans that is why Jesus' friends found it really hard to appreciate going to heaven as they knew that flesh and blood has nothing to do there {1Corinthans 15:50} it's when they discovered that until Satan is destroyed completely the earth is not safe that they were happy of escaping the final test of faith in God which has nothing to do with those who will be taken to heaven as spirit beings. Revelation 20:5-6 compare to 1Thessalonians 4:16-17
So God knows those who are not fitting for life in heaven among his servants therefore all faithful servants of God that lived until John the baptist are not qualified to live in heaven. Matthew 11:11

Earth is the place God created for man to live forever {Psalms 37:29} heaven is the abode of spirits hence God lives there {Psalms 115:16} because God is also a spirit {John 4:24} when Jesus first told his disciples that he will take them to where he came from {John 14:1-3} they were confused because they don't know how humans with flesh and blood could live in heaven. 1Corinthans 15:50

So those going to heaven won't go with their human bodies therefore the issue of gender has nothing to do with heaven hence they can't marry. Luke 20:34-36

Moreover since they don't have human bodies there won't be age differences all of them will look like age mates and nobody can go with his or her spouse or child it's God who determines those going there not our faith but it's among faithful disciples of Christ that God will choose those who will rule with Christ Jesus in heaven! Matthew 20:20-23