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sonmvayina:
who anointed him with oil as the messiah on his coronation as king(messiah)
why did he not usher a world wide era of peace just like Isaiah prophesied 'men will hammer their swords into plowshares and learn of war no more. why is there still oppression?

According to God's word the Messiah will first establish his teachings among humble people that's why Zephaniah said we need humility and righteousness to be spared in the day of God's vengeance. Zephaniah 2:2-3
Because the Messiah will first of all come as a Counselor {Isaiah 9:6} but he will meet bitter opposition who will put him to death {Daniel 9:26} that is why God will later send him to come and destroy all those opposing his rule.

But among those who welcome his counsel Isaiah 2:2-4 is working out throughout the globe today. That's how JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES fulfilled that prophecy!

sonmvayina:
why is there no world wide knowledge of God of the Jews?
you wish

Because it's after his disciples have gone throughout the world to gather peace loving people that he will come and do justice to oppression.
Today the knowledge of the God of the Jews has been taken to the most distant part of the planet by JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

sonmvayina:
continue telling your self that....

That's the truth.
We are talking about JEWS not Fulani or Igbo here!😂

sonmvayina:
So this is the correct interpretation:
looks like you are not improving at all
the psalm was written by David[b] AND[/b] given to the choirmaster to be sung during service...
so when the choirmaster is singing it, it will be from the perspective of the choirmaster, it will be
the Lord(GOD) said to my(that is the choirmaster)lord(king David).....what is hard to grasp?

Read nah!😟


The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” The Lord is at your right hand; he will crush kings on the day of his wrath. He will judge the nations, heaping up the dead and crushing the rulers of the whole earth. ‭Psalms 110:4-6 NIV‬

So David was a Priest shey?
Did David also crush the rulers of the whole earth? Daniel 2:44

Why are you so confused nah?🥱

sonmvayina:
you see that you have to suspend the use of your brain to believe that.
how is Jesus related to Joseph by bloood?
so if an igbo man adopts a Fulani boy, the Fulani boy automatically becomes an igbo boy?

Are we talking about Fulani or Igbo here?
Ọmọ we are talking about Jews and Jewish traditions.
So when Jesus' disciples were writing his genealogy they wrote it down for their Jewish brothers who may dispute it not to Fulani or Igbo man like you o!🙂

sonmvayina:
so which role does Jesus play in Jehovah witness? If he is not part of God?

Messiah!

sonmvayina:
God is one and indivisible......
i wonder where Christians got the idea of a three in one God.
if that is not idolatry, i don't know what it is.

They are not Christians Jesus Christ who is the founder of Christianity said:

“The first is, ‘Hear, O Israel, Jehovah our God is one Jehovah, and you must love Jehovah your God with your whole heart and with your whole soul and with your whole mind and with your whole strength.'" Mark 12:29-30 compare to Deuteronomy 6:4

So the idea of three in one God is pagan!

sonmvayina:
hahahahahaha,
very funny, so who is Jesus father that connects to that line?

Joseph is his father according to Jewish traditions a son in law has equal birth right hence the Bible says:


and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah. ‭Matthew 1:16 NIV‬

So by virtue of marriage Jesus became the son of Joseph!🙂

sonmvayina:
The Lord(God) said to my lord(king David)......sit at my right hand.

You are WRONG!

In that Psalms David was talking about the Christ not himself.

So this is the correct interpretation:


The LORD (JEHOVAH) says to my Lord (Messiah): “Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies a footstool for your feet.”
‭Psalms 110:1 NIV‬

In the proceeding verses we read:


The Lord has sworn and will not change his mind: “You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.” ‭Psalms 110:4 NIV‬

Was David a PRIEST?

NO!

So regarding this God later send another prophet to tell the Jews that the Messiah will act in the spirit of King David:


I will place over them one shepherd, my servant David, and he will tend them; he will tend them and be their shepherd. I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David will be prince among them. I the Lord have spoken. ‭Ezekiel 34:23-24 NIV‬

Did Ezekiel live before or after David?

So God used so many descriptive names to teach His worshipers how to identify the Messiah who acts and do things better than all the prophets before him.

There are many titles used in the Bible for the Messiah!
* Seed Of The Woman ~ Genesis 3:15
* Shiloh ~ Genesis 49:10
* Prophet ~ Deuteronomy 18:18-19
* Mighty God ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Wonderful Counselor ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Everlasting Father ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Prince Of Peace ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Israel/Jacob ~ Isaiah 41:8
* David ~ Ezekiel 34:23

You only picked one out of these thinking it's about Israel whereas God is saying the Messiah is the ORIGINAL Seed Of the woman, Shiloh, Prophet, Mighty God, Wonderful Counselor, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace, Israel (Jacob) , David.

sonmvayina:
He will be a descendant of king David through Solomon.

Of course Jesus is from the lineage of King Solomon!


Jesse the father of King David. David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah’s wife, Solomon the father of Rehoboam, Rehoboam the father of Abijah, Abijah the father of Asa. Matthew 1:6-7 NIV‬

So you have nothing to say against Jesus if you are obsessed because of false religions parading as Christians get it out of your head now because true Christianity has been fully restored!🙂

RhemaJet7:
The Elisha of this generation.

Do you know Elisha is not yet qualified for everlasting life?

Well all those born before John the baptist aren't yet qualified {Matthew 11:11} until they are tested by the devil after learning to become like Jesus for 1,000 years. Revelation 20:1-5

So repent and accept Jesus as Lord and the person you must imitate not Elisha! Matthew 17:5

RhemaJet7:
CONTRARY TO PEOPLE'S CRITICISM THAT I AM DESPERATE FOR THE R.C.C.G. GENERAL OVERSEER'S JOB

What you're doing is daylight robbery but since most people don't want to know the truth about Christianity instead each is selfishly pursuing his or own interest false prophets like you keeps thriving.
You have cursed lots of people on this thread showing that you know nothing about Christianity!🥱

RhemaJet7:
It is good as you are washing your dirty linen in public as an Anti-Christ.
No hidden places for the devil.
Candidates of hell

Just like Christ!😂

RhemaJet7:
You're doomed already.
Casted to hell.
May you never prosper, in Jesus Mighty name, amen!

Just like Christ!😂

franchasng:
Ijebu Ode, very blessed community. I learnt they have a lot of powerful herbalists in Ijebu Ode

That bobo G.O is fully competent as in up to the task so let them go and bring their ÒTÙMỌ̀PỌ̀!😂

RhemaJet7:
God cannot be mocked,. a man shall reap what he sows. One more word from you, I will use my authority to deal with you!

This is becoming more hilarious!😂

socoharley:
Nonsense! Who is Jesus to determine anything?

He holds the future of mankind!🙂

Let us check the book of life?


And what more will I say? For time will fail me if I go on to relate about Gidʹe·on, Baʹrak, Samson, Jephʹthah, David, as well as Samuel and the other prophets. Hebrews 11:32

So, then, because we have such a great cloud of witnesses surrounding us, let us also throw off every weight and the sin that easily entangles us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us. Hebrews 12:1

Is Samson mentioned along with those whose witness should encourage us?

YES!

So according to God's word Samson lived a fulfilled life!

Christian couples are traveling on a spiritual journey and ADULTERY is one hell of a stumbling block that could deter their spiritual advancement so both of them should fight the battle together as one body! Matthew 19:5-6

Tithing foreshadowed the payment that true worshipers will pay to our High Priest until the end of 1,000 years it began in the first century when each dedicated servant of God must spend quality time (which is equivalent to money or material possessions) in the preaching and teaching about God's Kingdom.
Jesus as the High Priest understands our condition {Hebrews 4:15} so payment of each person's tithe would be according to whatever your heart compelled you to pay. 2Corinthians 9:7

So what is the tithe mandatory for each worshiper of the true God today?

It's the time we spend PREACHING and TEACHING about God's Kingdom in our neighborhood. Luke 10:1-6

This work will be really difficult for any individual who has material possessions because it involves insults and ridicules from people who are less privileged. Imagine someone who isn't even worth your housemaid insulting you for knocking on his/her door. Matthew 10:14
No wonder Jesus told the young Jewish ruler that all he needs to do is join his disciples to do the work assigned to all faithful people in the endtime of course each person have to put his/her minds off whatever you worth in this system and see yourself as a worthless fellow before you can do the work! Luke 18:22
Today there is only one religious group actively doing this work today and we are doing all our best to pay our tithe to Christ Jesus our High Priest.
We are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!🙂

Image123:
Do you now know that Jesus's Father is in heaven?

Good morning Mr Anonymous!😂

So you deactivated all your accounts on Nairaland because you don't want the truth!😟

mindhacker7007:
This forum surely is not for normal people as they cannot face the truth when normal people post the truth.

Deuteronomy 18:21–22
“And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’ when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass, that is the word which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.”

Deuteronomy is talking to Israelites not gentiles so it's part of the old covenant God made with the Israelites.
If that will always be the case then what of Jonah who went throughout Nineveh telling people that in 40 days time Nineveh will be destroyed but it never happened?🤔

Hussein035:
Only God is fit for worship and not Jesus who is a messenger and prophet like Abraham, Moses, David, Muhammad etc

Read your Bible and stop pastors from lying to you

Who is the "Muhammad" you added?😟

mindhacker7007:
Why does Nairaland allow and keep abusive posts from certain users, while banning other users and preventing them from responding to the same on the same thread?

I have noticed that you are eager to insult anyone than passing a message but if truly you have something worthwhile to share you shouldn't be so concerned about abusers because that will show you are not focused!

Jesus encouraged his friends to cement their relationship with his own father not him {Matthew 6:6} but they can only do so through what he taught them. Matthew 17:5

That's the reason why he always pray in private to his father teaching us whom we need to have a relationship with. Matthew 14:23

He told Mary Magdalene:

“Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God." John 20:17

So Jesus is our brother with whom we worship the same God and Father!

Satan keeps on deceiving people trying really hard to discredit the Bible! 2Corinthians 11:14-15

If each person would encounter Jesus PERSONALLY then what is the essence of preaching?🥱

On the same topic about the Messiah he has created countless threads in my name just to prove that Jesus is not the Messiah!😂

Kukutente23:
Dude is confused, blasphemous and heretic all rolled into one
I didn't know he ran here to hide
See me still waiting for him to come and give me Mary's Arabic name as he claimed
It's obvious he hates Jesus. Definitely he's a Muslim who wants to prove that Jesus is not what we say he is. But unfortunately for him even his Qur'an calls Jesus the messiah even if it never explained what it means.
Now his confusion has come full circle that the messiah is not an individual but the whole nation of Israel. You see how hate makes one write like a lunatic?

There are many titles used in the Bible for the Messiah!
* Seed Of The Woman ~ Genesis 3:15
* Shiloh ~ Genesis 49:10
* Prophet ~ Deuteronomy 18:18-19
* Mighty God ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Wonderful Counselor ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Everlasting Father ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Prince Of Peace ~ Isaiah 9:6
* Israel/Jacob ~ Isaiah 41:8
* David ~ Ezekiel 34:23
So God used so many descriptive names to help any serious scholar IDENTIFY the Messiah as one who bears the resemblance of so many ancient servants. Just as God used Elijah to describe the type of Spirit John the baptist will carry. Malachi 4:5 compare to Matthew 11:14-15

God told the Israelites as a nation:


“You are my WITNESSES ,” declares the Lord, “and my SERVANT whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me. ‭Isaiah 43:10 NIV‬

From the above statement Israelites are God's WITNESSES (plural) but there is One chosen person (singular) among them who is God's anointed King and that person is none other than Jesus Christ!

So nobody can deny that Jesus Christ is not the Messiah!🙂

voortrekker966:
Your dealer has the most efficacious weed in the universe.

When someone desperately wants to become rich at all cost Satan will appear to such a person as an angel of light and lead him into everlasting delusion! 2Corinthians 11:14-15😟

So the Messiah according to you is not a person but the entire nation of Israel!🥱

MindHacker9009:
You're the one being insincere. I've already shown you how Israel fits the Suffering Servant description, not Jesus Christ, who was a celebrity figure with crowds following Him everywhere. They even tried to force Him to become king, but He withdrew away from them.

You also brought up "cut off" as evidence for Jesus, but I already refuted that with Ezekiel 37:11–12, which shows Israel fits that description instead.

So why are you so scared of admitting the truth? It must have something to do with how you were trained by your former religion.

Isaiah explicitly calls Israel “my servant” “But you, Israel, my servant,...” Isaiah 41:8
And Isaiah 53 itself can fit Israel's experience. The servant is:
1. Despised and rejected
2. Afflicted
3. Oppressed
4. Suffering unjustly
5. Associated with transgressors
6. Ultimately vindicated
and
7. Afterward receives an exalted position

Ezekiel 37:11–12 Israel's “death” and restoration
This is particularly relevant to an Israel-as-servant interpretation:
“Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.” “Son of man, these bones are the people of Israel.”

The Torah tells us how to discern the truth, so those of us who love the truth will always follow this guidance, but you don't like the truth so you just follow anywhere your belle face.

Deuteronomy 18:21–22
“And if you say in your heart, ‘How may we know the word that the LORD has not spoken?’ when a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the word does not come to pass, that is the word which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.”[/b]