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Gabrielshow24:
Why would you expect animal cruelty laws to affect animals?

Did you know what we are discussing or you just jump in to attack Max?

The girl said animal cruelty laws should affect animals when they are killing other animals o!

Gabrielshow24:
As usual, you have problem with decoding messages👀. If you were to be Noah, we would all have perished 🤕.
My emphasis is on the "Lord's vineyard".
Anyone can show "work done" on a cliff👀.If the work isn't in the 'vineyard' it's vain!!! 😂😂😂

Who calls religionists killing their fellow religionists "Lord's vineyard" nah?

DaddyCoool:
Can u please stop talking foolish?
How can ANIMAL CRUELTY laws protect man?

You are the foolish woman here saying animal cruelty law was established but it only affects humans not animals.

How many lions, tigers, wolves or other predators has been arrested for cruelty against other animals?

So if it doesn't affect animals killing other animals for food how does that concerns what we are discussing?

Gabrielshow24:
They said 'someone' is not working in the Lord's vineyard.

Who are this "THEY" and what makes their opinion count?

DaddyCoool:
It is to protect animals from.

Man or Other animals?

Gabrielshow24:
That might not have been his intention from the onset, he wanted to change the world around him by preaching the oneness of God but reality check hit him.

Jesus said to JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES:

But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the most distant part of the earth.” Act 1:8

Only those having the power of Holy Spirit can become witnesses of the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 9:6} as they work hard with God's Holy Spirit to establish Peace in their gathering because PEACE is one of the qualities of God's Holy Spirit! Galatians 5:22

This is why no religion no matter how hard they try can achieve what God promised in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:4.

So the same thing that happened to Muhammad and his followers is affecting all other religions except JWs!

DaddyCoool:
Why do we have animal cruelty laws?

Do this law affects animals or man?

DaddyCoool:
Try again.
According to you they were NOT killing and eating other animals (because that'll be suffering). Why did they suddenly start? And their mammals give birth just like humans!

That's disorder not suffering, God never create them to live forever like humans so they will die one way or another!

delkuf:
Yes it is my opinion

OK nah!

delkuf:
I know that there is a difference between everlasting life and eternal life.

OK that's your PERSONAL OPINION as usual!

DaddyCoool:
But animals never ate any fruit and still don't know good from evil till today, so how come all that suffering also apply to them?

Where did God's word say animals are suffering?

delkuf:
It is my opinion.

Walahi talahi i have no issues with you if you have said this from the onset.
So never say alcoholic drink is sin since it's your own PERSONAL OPINION.

delkuf:
And concerning that my thread you stop asking questions. I cannot force things on you. So I thought you don't want me to continue. That was why I stop

You are lying!
Just humbly admit that you goofed big time because EVERLASTING AND ETERNAL means the same thing!

Most of you churchgoers don't know why your pastors becomes so intimidated at the mention of that group name:

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

delkuf:
So your opinion can never matter to me.
Have a blessed day

Olódo!
Not my opinion but what God granted His worshipers right inside His courtyard:

And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household! Deuteronomy 14:26 KJV

So it's you that's TEACHING your own PERSONAL OPINION against what God instituted in His word! Revelations 22:18-19

What is the name that was HALLOWED?

DaddyCoool:
What has sin to do with animals?

It's Adamic sin that made man fall short of the glory of God! Romans 3:23

In the beginning God made man in His image and said:
“Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection the fish of the sea and the flying creatures of the heavens and every living creature that is moving on the earth.” Genesis 1:28

After Satan made them to rebel against God this is what God said:

“Because you listened to your wife’s voice and ate from the tree concerning which I gave you this command, ‘You must not eat from it,’ cursed is the ground on your account. In pain you will eat its produce all the days of your life. It will grow thorns and thistles for you, and you must eat the vegetation of the field. In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” Genesis 3:17-19

From that day everything on the planet started turning against man, the ground refused to yield it's produce as it should, the weather turned into something else, the animals became our enemies even insects started sucking our blood all due to the CURSE that came along with sin!

So it's sin that changed everything!

delkuf:
that is rubbish key. You said dealing with opposite sex is more deadly, do you know that getting drunk can make me fall and have sex with a woman.
Well you have what you believe. But I can't go in that line. I have seen what alcohol can do to know. Please don't let us continue to argue on this. I can't subscribe to it. Good morning and have a good day

God blessed His worshipers to drink ALCOHOLIC in His house! Deuteronomy 14:26

So your opinion doesn't matter to me.

Good day!

MightySparrow:
Is that why you avoid politics?

NO, Jesus said he is no part of the world {John 17:16} his government is no part of the world {John 18:36} he prayed that Jehovah's Witnesses should be sanctified by the power of the scriptures {John 17:17} which supposed to make us one in a spiritual sense. John 17:22
Politics is the only thing that brings men of different religions together and leads them into fighting and killing themselves including their fellow believers whereas Jesus commanded us to LOVE and pray for those we view as enemies {Luke 6:27-28} LOVE our neighbors just as we love ourselves {Mark 12:31} and LOVE our fellow believers exactly the same way he loves us! John 13:34-35
You can never ever achieve that type of LOVE with politics: Satan's tool of making people God's enemies.

When Isaiah said:

No weapon formed against you will have any success, And you will condemn any tongue that rises up against you in the judgment. This is the heritage of the servants of Jehovah, And their righteousness is from me,” declares Jehovah. Isaiah 54:17

He wasn't talking about physical weapons otherwise no physical weapons supposed to kill a believer but he was talking about Satan's spiritual missiles fashioned to kill your faith in Christ Jesus {Ephesians 6:16} that is politics without politics JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES can talk boldly everywhere we go that we are the only true disciples of Christ Jesus and our words and actions will be so powerful that you will feel we are CONDEMNING you.
That's what Isaiah 54:17 means!

delkuf:
I will always kick against drinking of alcohol as a Christian. I know how when you get drank you can easily this that you don't normally do.
I can never supported drinking as a Christian

You lack scriptural knowledge that is why.
Your dealings with the opposite sex is much more deadly than getting drunk many people in the past got drunk with lust for women and it led to their failure as God's servants.
Do you remember Samson, David, Solomon and Ahab?
They all committed grievous blunders due to their affairs with women.
Do you think all male Christian should stop dealing with women because of such things?
Ọmọ learn to be humble it will do you a lot of good.
I have given you the key to unlock the secret as to what Jesus' ministry should achieve among faithful mankind: there must be peace among all those claiming believers in the Prince of Peace {Isaiah 2:4} because they must LOVE there neighbors as themselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE and pray for their enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE their fellow believers just as Jesus is ready to die for his disciples! John 13:35-35
So if any religion failed to do this they are not disciples of the Prince of Peace.

DaddyCoool:
Why allow marriage from the beginning?
Why allow lions to eat lambs from beginning?

Marriage is forever on planet earth so it will continue to be whether there is evil or not.
Animals began eating animals after the first sin before then all animals eat straws together. Isaiah 65:25
So it's after Satan has been destroyed that everything will return to normal.
As for those chosen to rule with Christ in heaven they will no longer be humans there but angels (spirits) it's our bodies that determines our sexuality since spirits don't have physical bodies getting married will no longer be their kind of life again when they get to heaven. Luke 20:34-36

Your counterbalancing does not makes sense at all so next time i'm commenting don't jump in and start criticizing i'm different from your folks that you will lie to them and cover up with "God bless you" i won't take it from you, if you hate Jehovah's Witnesses keep that within you don't bring that close to me thinking you can rubbish me comments.

DaddyCoool:
Where and when exactly did God tell you that. "Due process" as mandated by who and where?
You asked why the change from duality, Mathew 22 tells you they'd no longer marry. Why the change??
You JW believe Lion will lie with lamb, why the change?

Why not start from the beginning?

Why allow Satan from the beginning?

sonmvayina:
Learn, unlearn and relearn..
May you have peace.

OK!

MightySparrow:
With God of Israel was a covenant, a pact pointing to the redemptive work of Christ. Whatever made Israel enjoyed grace covered their ally ditto Gibeontes.
Are you saying God has transferred the covenant via Mohammed to Muslims?

Whatever explanation or interpretation you gave it makes no sense to Muslims as long as it was permitted in the old testament.
That's what Muhammad saw but going by what Christ taught pure worship is not to be stationed in one place again anywhere Christians gather is holy. John 4:24

So to help the Muslims one needs to fully understand all these not just saying they are terrorists simply because their religion can't see the evil that comes with politics.

lawani:
Someone collecting taxes on behalf of Rome in Judea was even more than a politician because he was detested by Jewish nationalists. It was because Jesus claimed to be a Jewish nationalist (politician) that he was accused of hobnobbing with tax collectors by Jews

You just like twisting matter to suit your opinion.

An employee in public office differs from an elected politician.

So do you now see that first century disciples of Christ can't be politicians?

DaddyCoool:
Go and study the words of Christ in Mathew 22.
Therein lies your answer

Sebi you have studied it why can't you explain for us?
A competent Bible scholar is talking you people will just jump in and start arguing blindly.

God permitted Satan because it will not make sense to destroy him without due process.

That's the simple answer!

Thankgod89:
Lol.
May God continue to bless your home.

And yours too!

lawani:
but you agreed that what Jesus founded was a sect of Judaism and all kinds of people including tax collectors working for government followed him

An employee in public office differs from a politician, if you don't know the difference i will TEACH you.
Someone employed is not elected by the people it's qualification that got him the employment so there is nothing like tenor in such a job but a politician has tenor.
So an employee has no problem with Christianity but an appointee or elected person does!

MightySparrow:
I think you brag you know Bible. Did God command Moses to force them to worship?

What happens if they decides to worship the God of Israel will they still be killed?

Remember Rahab of Jericho and her household they were spared for joining the Israelites in the worship of the God of Joshua.

If you are intelligent you should know what Muhammad had in mind jọ̀ọ́!

lawani:
OK but early Christians did not have such a rule

No ruler was a Christian back then the only ruler who wants to become a Christian was told to sell off his prestige and affluence:

“There is still one thing lacking about you: Sell all the things you have and distribute the proceeds to the poor, and you will have treasure in the heavens; and come be my follower.” Luke 18:22

That's what Jesus told the politician!

sonmvayina:
Continue to deceive your self. The story said he was a Jew. So he must have followed the Torah. Who then created Christianity? Answer: The Roman Catholic Church. It was the product of the council of Nicaea and the orders of emperor Constantine, who wanted a single religion for his empire.
Got nothing to do with God.

OK!

DaddyCoool:
Oga, are you.paying attention at all sir? There'd be no dualities. As Christ said, they'd be neither male nor female. Even if there were it would no longer be God's laws. This dualistic system would be abolished! - hence all animals will coexist,, no more preys and creditors, etc

Madam we weren't talking about animals jọọ it's good and evil which your God permitted but you said good can't be without evil to counterbalance it.

So how come God will change things and no longer counterbalance it again?

Why not do that from the onset?