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GothamCities:
Should I bring other's comments besides mine?

Please post all of them so that everyone can know these people and exactly what i did that's evil against them apart from talking about my faith!

Most of you will only rush to threads that someone speaks against Jehovah's Witnesses.
Here is an opportunity for you to defend your beliefs:

https://www.nairaland.com/8360201/jesus-lied

Because by the time i speak with him and he begin to reason with the truth you people will start crying o!

GothamCities:
Yes, that's what we're saying. You flow with mischief and dubiousness.

Says you but to these commentators here Maximus is an angel!

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

GothamCities:
Should I mention them to come confront you?

What bad thing apart from talking about my faith?

GothamCities:
But you already did. Jesus is Michael is not found in the Bible!

I reasoned with what the Bible says about the WORD of God, Archangel Michael and Jesus Christ the three have a lot in common!

MightySparrow:
Anybody can write anything on any blogs.

And anybody can believe it.

Thanks!

GothamCities:
Many EXTRABIBLICAL texts.

This is where the problem lies because i will never reason with what is not found written in the Bible!

GothamCities:
Those you have done bad things to.

What bad thing have i done to anyone apart from talking about my faith?

GothamCities:
If you can't digest it, then walk away and refrain from commenting. Comments are for those who have digested. Commenting on any post you didn't read thoroughly makes you stupid.

If you quote me i will respond but never flow according to your tune!

What do you expect to see in the GATHERING of true believers?

Is your faith working like Abraham's faith?

Iwillbeback:
Why is Christ the angel of the Lord ?

Therefore in light of the three points above, the Angel of the Lord has to be Christ.

Thank you all for reading

Jesus is the ANGEL of God!

GothamCities:
This is very illogical. Absolute trash.
No matter who you're talking to, there's no justification for you to take phrases out of context to make unrelated points.

So it's logical to digest an epistle when you find no pleasure in the one talking shey?

GothamCities:
Those who see you from afar don't know who you are because you're very dubious and pretentious.

They only read my comments just as you are doing and that's what made them say good things about Max! Luke 6:45

GothamCities:
Rather, there's no verse in support of Jesus being Michael. Thanks for your time.

Just as there is no verse that supported many Archangels.
Now we are progressing!

Q 13. How can our conduct bring glory to Jehovah?

If we strip off “the old personality”—unclean attitudes and practices—and to clothe ourselves with “the new personality”—a way of thinking and acting that reflects Jehovah’s glorious qualities then our conduct will surely bring glory to Jehovah.

How about what the OP said about Jesus being the angel of the Lord?

Iwillbeback:
Why is Christ the angel of the Lord ?

Therefore in light of the three points above, the Angel of the Lord has to be Christ.

Thank you all for reading

MightySparrow:
The discourse that brought about Trinity did not have any pagan input. Non of the discussants were outside the church.
This is the lie JW peddled before I studied the discussants and their contributions. You don't need to tell lies to validate the truth.

The links are here:

https://www.scribd.com/document/477783606/The-pagan-origin-of-trinity

https://www.biblicalunitarian.com/articles/pagan-roots-of-the-trinity-doctrine-ed-torrence-2002

https://www.ucg.org/learn/bible-study-aids/god-trinity/god-trinity/how-ancient-trinitarian-gods-influenced-adoption

https://www.quora.com/Is-Trinity-a-pagan-concept-If-so-where-does-that-leave-Christianity

Emusan:
Plenty
John 1:3
Heb 1:2, 17-18
Smile...Your Michael is a creature and without Jesus NOTHING was CREATED.
You can't deny any of those statements above!

So there's no verse that says Jesus created Michael or the Archangel shey?

Thanks!

Emusan:
So who was written there?
I've don't that.
Are you saying Jesus is not THE WORD?
I'm boldly saying Jesus is not MICHAEL

Have gotten a verse that explicitly says "Jesus is the word of God"?

GothamCities:
Just name another angel that the title 'chief prince 'was used for. Name one.
The Bible is not a book of angels. Michael is the angel over Israel, and that is why his name was specifically mentioned as an archangel, since the Bible is a book of God's dealings with Israel. The Angel specially told Daniel "There's no one that helps me in these things except Michael your prince..."
The Bible is not the only source for these things. Peter and Jude quoted from other sources not canonized in Nicea . These other sources mentioned some other archangels and their names.
The Bible never said there's only one archangel. That's your own interpolation. There is only one God and one Lord in heaven. Open your ears. On earth there are many gods and many lords. That's what that Scripture is telling you.
Lucifer was an archangel. He was a commander over a host. An archangel is simply a commander in God's host. Ignorance is not bliss.
Now, I'm discussing your points directly, puncturing the loopholes in you're submissions. Why are you shying away from discussing my points? Because there are no loopholes of course!

So there is no verse in support of many Archangels.
Thanks for your time!

GothamCities:
You're 100% correct.
Everyone knows this of him. Sometimes he even makes blunders that his fellow JWs become ashamed of. He's indeed intellectually inept.

About Max:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

So you're entitled to your own personal opinion!

GothamCities:
See how you're telling lies. You write epistles yourself and we don't quote a phrase out iof your epistle to distort your points.
Who uses phrases as experts from full contents if not satanists?

Phrases comes in when you are talking to people who haven't accepted you as a teacher {Matthew 22:17-21} but when i'm talking to someone who wants to learn from me i can talk on and on teaching such a person many things! Mark 4:2

delkuf:
but you believe that there is the Father and the word-the son and the Holy Ghost. The are three and they are one. You only have issue of it being mentioned in the Bible. Okkkkkkk

Try to settle the issue of TRINITY with your folks before thinking about me because i hate confusion! 1Corinthans 14:33

GothamCities:
Did you read where I said Biblical traditions? The fact that Michael is referred to as one of the chief princes and not the only chief prince should be enough for you.
Or tell us that Michael is the only chief prince.

The title chief prince totally differ from Archangel just as the word prince differ from the word heir.
There are many princes but only one is designated to inherit the throne.
So while the title Archangel is used for only one angel (Michael) the title chief prince is used for many angels who are closer to God than others that's why Paul could say:

For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 1Corinthans 8:5

There are gods and lords in heaven but only one Archangel has the highest position among them all!

GothamCities:
What about Maxindhouse that has the habit of cutting off your entire statements to take a phrase out of context and then pinning the phrase on you to establish another line of discussion?

You guys aren't trained to debate!

First of all if two people are to debate over something and there is no rule or audience to monitor the debate then each topic has to be discussed with few words that's straight to the point each debator want to establish because you will surely cut off lots of statements that you feel is irrelevant to the debate.

So to debate or discuss with me try to focus on a point and use few words not an epistle expecting me to digest all what you wrote remember you're a lost sheep to me so you can't expect me to start digesting what i view as gibberish and the same applies to you!

delkuf:
what is all this long Grammer. Is that not Trinity. Some of us na over sabi dey do us

Since the word "TRINITY" is not written in the Bible but you people want to prove it then there is going to be a lot of CONTRADICTIONS!

GothamCities:
Gabriel is also an archangel
Lucifer was also an archangel.

Please quote verses where these things are mentioned in the Bible.
Thanks!

Banned for vulgar speeches.
Hope you'll learn your lesson!

GothamCities:
You saw the verses I quoted with it. Why cut them off? You're very dubious.

Right below is my own submission.
Why do you choose to avoid it?

MaxInDHouse:
According to the Bible there is one angel who always represent God in the presence of all other angels, this is the angel who spoke with Abraham among the big trees of Mamre {Genesis 18:1} some may like argue saying Abraham spoke to Jehovah but John made it clear to us that no man has seen God at any given time so who have they been seeing and talking to face to face {Deuteronomy 34:10} surely it the only angel who always represent God {Exodus 13:21; 14:19} that's what apostle John was telling us! John 1:18

So Jesus is the angel of the Lord or the Archangel whose duty has always been to speak for God before other angels and humans as spokesman you will notice that Michael has never been said to speak with any human directly throughout the Bible whenever that name (Michael) is mentioned he speaks with an angel or angels {Daniel 10:13; Jude 9} and whenever he speaks with a human the Bible will say the angel of God or Jehovah! Exodus 13:21; 14:19

Daniel later revealed that this angel who always stand up as defender or protector of God's people is Archangel Michael! Daniel 12:1 compare to Daniel 3:25

So the name Jesus who is the WORD of God bears in heaven is Michael!

GothamCities:
Michael is not the only chief prince. He's obe of the chief princes.

Bible addressed only Michael as the Archangel but if you have another please quote the verse!

Iwillbeback:
Why is Christ the angel of the Lord ?

Therefore in light of the three points above, the Angel of the Lord has to be Christ.

Thank you all for reading

Despite all the back and forth arguments here nobody addressed this!

GothamCities:
There are verses that claim Jesus is God.

Please provide one verse in the Bible that say this word for word.

GothamCities:
There are many archangels.

Please quote a verse where another archangel is mentioned in the Bible
Thanks!